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Since she became Alaska's governor in December 2006, Sarah Palin hasn't paid taxes on the more than $17,000 she received in controversial per diem payments for working out of the family's lakeside home in Wasilla, according to her recently released tax returns for the past two years.

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Ya know's she's jast been fergettin' ta pay it cause hse's been so busy watchin' that Putin Fellah.

As predicted, the information comes out as a weekend dump.

Good luck to Todd Palin, explaining his "business expenses."

From a related piece:

Palin, it appears, did not pay taxes on the more than $60,000 of travel reimbursements that she and her family members reportedly billed the state during her 18 months as governor. There is a fairly wonky debate over whether she should have been charged for these trips or whether it was accounted for in her salary. John Bogdanski, a tax professor at the Lewis and Clark Law School, told the Huffington Post's Seth Colter Walls that they did qualify as taxable income.

It does not appear that such deductions would have been allowable for any amounts attributable to travel by her husband and children. Section 274(m)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code strictly forbids deductions for bringing spouses and dependents along on business travel unless the spouses and dependents (a) are employees of the taxpayer (here, the taxpayer is the governor), (b) are traveling for a bona fide business purpose, and (c) would otherwise be entitled to deduct the travel on their own tax returns. Unless Palin's spouse and kids are also her employees and she can show that they were away on their own businesses, their expenses would not be deductible by the governor. And therefore she cannot exclude from income any per diems attributable to any of them. (By the way, since she's the employee, the income would be required to be reported on her own return, not her kids'.)
www.huffingtonpost.com

yes, but she's just so darn cute and perky. she'd make a fine v.p.!

the right.

Good for her. Per Diem payments aren't taxable; they're listed under "Miscellaneous non-taxable income". Anyone who's worked in government, been in the Army, worked as a contractor--knows this.

I do a lot of traveling, too. Nice headline, Joel Abey. Should rile up a lot of the DR lefties who don't know anything, like yourself--but this story is nothing. Again--Like yourself.

Now I can tell you that over the years when I have received per diem for traveling I had to report this to the federal government. She is being codeled by the media and let by for this whereas any other US Citizen would be hung out to dry by the IRS.
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Technically true--you have to list the income. But you don't pay taxes on it. And she isn't being "codeled" (sic).
Either you're being disingenuous, or you just have a stupid accountant. Either way, you have a lot of company here, among your fellow DR lefties.

"Revenue Ruling 2006-56 tells employers that if they routinely pay per diem allowances in excess of the federal per diem rates, but do not track the allowances and do not require the employees either to actually substantiate all the expenses or pay back the excess amounts, and do not include the excess amounts in the employee's income and wages, then the entire amount of the expense allowances is subject to income tax and employment tax."

www.irs.gov

I do a lot of traveling, too.
#5 | Posted by rightisright

Through them 'Glades, tracker dogs a-bayin', feet sinkin' crotch-deep in gumbo mud, 'gators snappin'. . .gawd, life's a bitch.

If I can find evidence that Michelle and Barack Obama never paid taxes on her per diem pay, would that be sufficient to deny Barack higher office? Or would we just conclude that people who criticize Palin for not doing so are douchebags?

TDY travel. Per diem expenses with three companies. Travel pay. Gas and toll road reimbursements. Never paid taxes; just kept the receipts.

Do you pay taxes on those things, Doc? Or do you have a stupid accountant too?

It's not that simple, Right is Right. If the per diem pay reimburses you for costs you could not deduct as a business expense, you have to claim them as income. Also, per diem pay spend on family members is not deductible, and you can't deduct expenses incurred in traveling to your home. Here's more info on the tax issues:

bojack.org

For a down-to-earth middle-class family, the Palins sure found lots of different ways to score money from the Alaskan taxpayers.

Are you accusing Palin of tax evasion? If so, say so. If not, then every second Joel Abey's headline is up there, he looks like a douchebag. Or stupid. You choose.

Show of hands: how many of you have ever paid taxes on your per diem pays?

Show of hands: How many of you have ever claimed a deduction for something that was covered by your per diem payouts?

If you want to see why the right feels the media are singling out Palin for special treatment, consider the opening sentence:

"Sarah Palin is the breadwinner and husband Todd is, well he takes a lot of deductions for his fishing and snowmachine racing careers, according to 2007 and 2006 federal tax returns released Friday."

Her husband Todd is a commercial fisherman, and a professional racer. Is the author suggesting that these deductions are illegal? Or just suspicious? Is it hard to believe that people who run fishing boat companies have a lot of deductions? Or that people who run racing teams do?

Just another example of how journalists have a f-ed up view of the world. People like Barack (community organizer, college professor, W-2 income) make things so much easier for them. Easier still when they want him to be president.

Douchebags. I'll ask again: how many liberals on here have EVER PAID TAXES ON THEIR PER DIEM PAY?

Partisan douchebags. Tools. All the things you accused righties of during the Clinton years, with justification--I may add. Now you're a mirror of Rush Limbaugh, circa 1998.

Congratulations.

"This is a lady who screams about everyone in federal government taking advantage, and she's taking every advantage she can," said Sheldon Cohen, IRS commissioner in the Johnson administration. "They are milking every possible deduction. They have a right to, if it's legitimate. The question is, is he in the racing business or is it a hobby?"
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Well, he's making money at it. And couldn't the "journalist" find somebody who worked with the IRS more recently than 40 years ago?

Well, well well. And after an inflammatory article that riled up the predictable douchebags on the DR, here come the last two paragraphs:

"Regarding the per diem dispute, Comella said Juneau is the governor's home base and therefore whenever she works elsewhere, she is entitled to charge the state. Comella contended the per diem payments are not taxable.

Cohen said it was fine for the state of Alaska to determine it was OK to reimburse Palin to work out of her home, but the state's decision didn't mean those benefits were not taxable by the federal government. "One has nothing to do with the other," said Cohen."

D O U C H E B A G S

I hope I don't spend my time during the Obama administration full of the same vitriol and douchebaggery that has characterized the American left for the last 8 years. You guys are out of your minds. Hopefully your presidential candidate is a better person than you are. We'll see.

Hopefully your presidential candidate is a better person than you are. We'll see.
#16 | Posted by rightisright

He may well be.

On the other hand, you've demonstrated repeatedly that you are definitely no better than your presidential candidate.

I'm not voting for McCain. Another douchebag flag for you. You seem to have a lot of friends here.

More Joel Abey "articles":


Sarah Palin's husband Todd Palin is found to be tied to big oil. He is employed there. He gave $100.00 to the McCain Campaign in July and listed his employer as BP therefor that makes him tied to big oil according to the Republican way of doing things.

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Rumor McCain leaving PA too

Read on the Huffington post john may be giving up in Penn too. He alreay gave up in Michigan and its spelling the begaining of the end for the Dynamic Duo.

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Sarah Palin found in porn on craigslist

Sarah Palin was found on craigslist in Alaska advertising herself and Todd as alaviable for swapping partners.

Posted by JoeLabey at 06:35 AM | 0 COMMENTS | permalink

McCains Girlfriend his foreign poicy experience

John McCain is claiming his ex-girlfriend part of his foreign policy experience. John McCain has been claiming to to Americans what his foreign policy experience is. The Huffington post found some of Johns other Foreign Policy experiences also.

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John McCain tied to Freddie Mac

John McCain has been tied to Freddie Mac and implicated in inapropriate lobbying
practies. All Americans should understand how dirty John McCain is behind closed doors while smiling to you in public.

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Alaskans don't pay taxes... we spend them. Seriously folks this is the most untaxed by the locals place I have ever lived, The righties are such crybabies. I am surprized Leona Helmsley didn't set up camp here. If she did she would have gotten away with it. Great hide out for rightwingnuts living on the dole.
No income tax, no sales tax in Anchroage... the largest city.

"Anchroage(sic)"

I like that. It has a nice ring to it. You should seek copyright.

Are you accusing Palin of tax evasion?

The headline's a factual statement. People wondered if Palin paid taxes on those controversial per diems. Now we now she didn't.

I'll ask again: how many liberals on here have EVER PAID TAXES ON THEIR PER DIEM PAY?

How many people have gotten per diem fees for "travel" to home? You're trying to treat an uncommon situation as if we all have jobs that treat home cooking like a night out at Applebee's.

I don't see how it's excessively partisan to question whether she unfairly dodged taxes on this money. Was it excessively partisan to question Charles Rangel not paying taxes on income for that vacation house he owned?

More Joel Abey "articles":

What does any of that other stuff have to do with him linking to an AP story about Palin's tax returns? Bringing all this outside stuff into the discussion seems like an attempt to dodge the real issue -- these per diem charges and her tax returns.

If it was fair to pore over Rangel's tax returns and find his omissions, it's completely fair here as well.

How many people have gotten per diem fees for "travel" to home?
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Hundreds of thousands of people. Maybe you should actually read some of the articles that are posted on your 'blog.

An excerpt, from the one in question:

"Robert Cross, first vice president of the National Society of Accountants, said the Palin business deductions were "typical middle America, John and Jane Plain," but he felt they would definitely owe interest and "possibly a small penalty, depending on all the circumstances."

An underpayment noticed by the AP could lead to interest charges against the Palins but probably not penalties."

and

"They're going to be billed the interest," said Cohen, who has contributed to the Obama-Biden campaign. He said the Palins would likely avoid penalties because their tax payments as of April for last year were higher than all payments made the prior year.
Regarding the per diem dispute, Comella said Juneau is the governor's home base and therefore whenever she works elsewhere, she is entitled to charge the state. Comella contended the per diem payments are not taxable."
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Face it Rcade: if this article were about Michelle Obama, it wouldn't be posted at all. It's okay to be a vicious partisan. It's not okay to fool yourself, into believing you're not. Which is why James Carville is preferable to Chris Matthews, and Allan Colmes to anyone over at CNN.

Rcade: do you believe that Sarah Palin is guilty of tax evasion? Given the article you have in front of you, right now--what evidence do you have that Palin did anything wrong? How many quotes from how many CPA's and how many Obama donors saying otherwise do you need, before you conclude that Joel Abey is a dick?

#24 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-10-04 10:25 AM


Okay, time for some serious talk here.










Pills or booze.
You can't have both.


Now I can tell you that over the years when I have received per diem for traveling I had to report this to the federal government. She is being codeled by the media and let by for this whereas any other US Citizen would be hung out to dry by the IRS.
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Technically true--you have to list the income. But you don't pay taxes on it. And she isn't being "codeled" (sic).
Either you're being disingenuous, or you just have a stupid accountant. Either way, you have a lot of company here, among your fellow DR lefties.

#6 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-10-04 09:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Technically true--you have to list the income."

Interesting. I've worked for the federal government for over forty years and have never been required to list travel per diem as income.

You're supposed to, actually MAC. I remember having to do it with my TDY pays in the Army. Still do, in fact, when I travel for my company, and get reimbursed on a per-diem package.

It's listed under "Miscellaneous Non-Taxable Income".

Pills or booze.
You can't have both.


If you elect Sarah you can have Matnuska Thunderfuck.

FF for Rightistrite!


It's not that simple, Right is Right. If the per diem pay reimburses you for costs you could not deduct as a business expense, you have to claim them as income. Also, per diem pay spend on family members is not deductible, and you can't deduct expenses incurred in traveling to your home. Here's more info on the tax issues:


bojack.org


For a down-to-earth middle-class family, the Palins sure found lots of different ways to score money from the Alaskan taxpayers.
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Actually, employees on official federal government travel are paid per diem specific to the area to which they travel. They do not have to account for expenses that do not exceed the per diem rate. They do have to file vouchers listing transportation (e.g., air fare), lodging (e.g., hotel bills), and anything exceeding the per diem limit. If their lodging expense exceeds the rate specified for the location, they pay the excess personally (unless they can obtain an exception/waiver based on circumstances from their employing agency).

the laws do not apply to the republicans !


You're supposed to, actually MAC. I remember having to do it with my TDY pays in the Army. Still do, in fact, when I travel for my company, and get reimbursed on a per-diem package.

#28 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-10-04 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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It's listed under "Miscellaneous Non-Taxable Income".

#29 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-10-04 10:36 AM | Reply | Flag:
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Like everything else...it depends. I base this on ten years in the army and thirty plus years as a civilian DoD employee. My travel expenses paid by my employer were transportation, lodging, and per diem. Per diem covered meals and incidental items. All had specified limits. Anything exceeding those limits, I was required to pay for personally and could not claim as deductions on taxes. If transportation or lodging expenses were less than the specified limit, I did not get to keep the difference. I cannot recall whether I had to account (file receipts) for meals and incidentals early in my career; but, for at least the past twenty or more years I have not been required to file receipts for meals or incidental expenses. If I were to choose to skip dinner and spend the money at the movies and eat pop corn, no one cared. Ergo, no tax implications.

Way too complicated, Mac. Where do you think you are--are forum for intelligent people?

Palin is a Republican. Therefore, she's cheating the taxpayers. Obama is a Democrat, therefore the very model of rectitude and propriety. That's all you need to know. If Palin doesn't pay income taxes on her per diem, it's because she's out to screw over the taxpayers. When Barack Obama doesn't pay income taxes on his per diem, it demonstrates fiscal discipline, and his ability to solicit excellent advice from the tax preparation community.

I cannot recall whether I had to account (file receipts) for meals and incidentals early in my career; but, for at least the past twenty or more years I have not been required to file receipts for meals or incidental expenses. If I were to choose to skip dinner and spend the money at the movies and eat pop corn, no one cared. Ergo, no tax implications.

#34 | Posted by MACV1972
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To be honest, that was true of me too. They paid me a flat per diem based on where I was headed; there were times I bunked up at a friend's house, and didn't pay for a hotel room, and just kept the money. Nobody cared.

I was in the Army from 1989-1998, with tours in Monterey, California, Augsburg, Germany, and Kunia Hawaii, with TDY's all over the place. Any of those spots familiar to you?

Actual per diem will be shown as an expense account payment and should not be listed as income.

From the IRS:

"Per diem payments are not part of the employee's wages if the payment is equal to or less than the federal per diem rate and the employer receives an expense report from the employee."

It makes a good headline to rile up the sheep though.

What the hell is this? Is this actually a story? You don't pay taxes on per diem if it is below the federal per diem rate. I have never paid a penny on per diem.

Boy..the lefties are really grasping

How about Obama's House and how he got it
how about Obama getting 140,000 from fannie mae
or 3338,000 from Time warner

So She didn't pay taxes on 17,000 she doesn't have too?

You lefties are too much

If you elect Sarah you can have Matnuska Thunderfuck.

#30 | Posted by RightisTrite

I've heard about that..
Isn't it a mixture of moose semen and meth?

The media has given up any pretense of objectivity in this election.

Obama has been in the spotight for 20 months, palin for about 5 weeks.

Yet, when I google "Obama per diem" (I don't use quotation marks when I type it in) - zilch.

Nothing.

Obama's per diem has never even been reported on.

Rcade wants to make the argument that it's responsible journalism to scour Palin's tax records and per diem expenses?

Fine.

But where in the hell is your journalistic outrage that no such reporting has been done of Obama?

To borrow from RiR: DOUCHEBAGS!!!


The media has given up any pretense of objectivity in this election.
Obama has been in the spotight for 20 months, palin for about 5 weeks.
~JeffJ


MYG, Jeff thanks for that Proof Positive of Blatant Bias simply ignoring Sarah untill a mere 5 weeks ago. AN OUTRAGE!


Yet, when I google "Obama per diem" (I don't use quotation marks when I type it in) - zilch.
~JeffJ

Proven Pilot Error....

MYG, Jeff thanks for that Proof Positive of Blatant Bias simply ignoring Sarah untill a mere 5 weeks ago. AN OUTRAGE!

Laziness.

We've heard every aspect of her life's story in those 5 weeks. Contrast that with Obama. We know he was a community organizer, but more specifically, what did he actually do? Has anyone who worked closely with him been interviewed? How about the good Rev. Wright. Close friend and mentor for over 20 years and the inspiration for the title of one of Obama's books. Has anyone in the media taken the time to interview Wright after Obama cut his nuts off? We had all sorts of media pundits saying Palin is a shitty mother because she chose to run for VP. Any questions or comments about Barack and Michelle Obama's commintment to their children - both work full time.


Proven Pilot Error....


Go ahead. Google Obama per diem and prove me wrong. I'll gladly offer a mea culpa if I am wrong.


You are utterly delusional and willfully blind if you are going to try and make a case that the MSM has been even remotely as tough and scurrilous regarding Obama as they have with Palin.

Face it Rcade: if this article were about Michelle Obama, it wouldn't be posted at all.

Rangel got posted. If Obama or Biden tax issues like this came up, they'd be posted as well.


We've heard every aspect of her life's story in those 5 weeks. Contrast that with Obama.

I've heard, in fact I've read right here on the internet, he's a Muslim so I get your point.

Carry on...............

www.google.com


Here's what we get when googling Obama per diem.


I've heard, in fact I've read right here on the internet, he's a Muslim so I get your point.


'Barack Hussein Obama' is a Muslim name. I get your point.

Carry on.....

I've heard, in fact I've read right here on the internet, he's a Muslim so I get your point.


Ooh! You heard it on the internet.


Wow, you really zinged me good.


Can you cite a major media source making the claim that Obama is a Muslim?

Heck, I can link for you an op-ed in Thursday's Detroit Free Press basically calling Sarah Palin a disgrace to women.

But where in the hell is your journalistic outrage that no such reporting has been done of Obama?

Obama's house-buying issue with Rezko was covered here numerous times. If he's found to have engaged in questionable activities on his taxes, it'd show up here as well.

Of all the places to argue that Palin is being mistreated, you've picked one on which I think the Retort's on the strongest ground. Politicians ought to be held to the highest possible standards when paying their taxes. Whenever there's a significant question raised about their tax filings, it's newsworthy.

Personally, I expect that we will learn that much of this per diem stuff was taxable and the Palins made a mistake. Since the issue was being discussed in the media for weeks, it was stupid for them not to file an amended return before releasing their returns.

But you're right, the media has really looked into and reported on Obama in a critical manner.


But you're right, the media has really looked into and reported on Obama in a critical manner.
~JEFFJ


They couldn't have they didn't find anything worth damnation, Obvious Bias!
~the right

Since Caribou Barbie is the female Bush( ultra religous, intellectually incurious, dumb as a sack of hair), I'm sure this was just an ovesight, like when Dubya forgot to report the sale of his Harken Energy shares right before the company went bankrupt.

Personally, I expect that we will learn that much of this per diem stuff was taxable and the Palins made a mistake.
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Care to make it interesting? How about a hundred bucks? And besides--earlier you insinuated that Palin was taking the good taxpayers of Alaska for a ride, deliberately. Now it's just a mistake? Anyone could've done it?

Fact is, if Palin owes taxes on her per diem, then the IRS will have to send notices to literally millions of people, many of them their own employees. You don't know what you're talking about. And if you think that this is one of the few times Palin's critics are on "strongest ground"--that says something about them. Funny how quiet you've been, then, in seeing Palin literally thrashed over parts of her personally life that--were she a lefty--you wouldn't have sat still for.

I like your blog. So don't take this personally. But there's nothing here.

#53 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-10-04 01:03 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Rcade--Are you reading the personal posts of folks who say this is not taxable?

Are you checking their links?

It appears you are protesting too much....??

Swinging and missing---

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As for the income of $170,000--they are paupers compared to every single other politician in DC.

And they give $25,000 to charity---15% of their income.

Wow!!


Compared to Biden who gave what? $3,000 to charity?

I'm afraid of backing up my convictions with money.

And besides--earlier you insinuated that Palin was taking the good taxpayers of Alaska for a ride, deliberately.

I was just commenting on the fact that she, like the rest of Alaska, has gotten really good at collecting government checks. Both on a personal level, and as a state. Those people are the biggest welfare queens in the country. I've never liked Alaskans, even as a kid in Dallas. I hated how they were bigger than Texas.

They couldn't have they didn't find anything worth damnation, Obvious Bias!
~the right


Uh huh.

She has a home office and appropriately expenses her business costs - HUGE media story.

She doesn't pay taxes on non-taxable items. Media story.


Are you just being obtuse to jerk me around, or are you that blindly partisan?

wow smurphy. here's a cold cloth to sooth the slap you just got.

As for the income of $170,000--they are paupers compared to every single other politician in DC.

Not every single other politician. Biden's yearly income is around $298,200.

I'm not saying the Palins are rich. Though like Obama, they could quickly get rich if she wrote a book.

What are you talking about Deluxe Hick!


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I've never liked Alaskans, even as a kid in Dallas. I hated how they were bigger than Texas.

#56 | Posted by rcade at 2008-10-04 0

Now the truth comes out!!!

FF for Rcade

Morning Read--


article.nationalreview.com

Baked Alaska's OK.

tropist.files.wordpress.com

And they give $25,000 to charity---15% of their income.
Wow!!
#55 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-10-04 01:07 PM

MURPHY -

You're aware that by clicking on the title of the story you can actually be transported to that story, yes?

So you know "the Palins said they donated $8,105 to charity over the two years," yes?

Let me put this as politely as I can:

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?


They couldn't have they didn't find anything worth damnation, Obvious Bias!
~the right

Are you just being obtuse to jerk me around, or are you that blindly partisan?
~ JEFFJ

Nice disconnect from the line above it in my post that being:

But you're right, the media has really looked into and reported on Obama in a critical manner.
~JEFFJ


Obtuse, your name today is Jeff.

I hated how they were bigger than Texas.

Bigger than Texas, California and Montana combined, FYI.

Don't rub it in, Jay.


Can you cite a major media source making the claim that Obama is a Muslim?
~JeffJ


Can you cite a major media source making the claim that "Obama per diem" is an issue?

"It's obvious that the per diems are taxable income. There's no question it is taxable. If it were not taxable, no one would pay taxes. People would convert their salary into a per diem and no one would pay taxes. You can deduct travel expenses when away from home. But you cannot deduct travel when you are at home." -- Robert S. McIntyre, director of the Citizens for Tax Justice

thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com

I'm not saying he's undoubtedly right, because other experts might disagree, but some folks here are acting like Palin's per diems are obviously non-taxable income.

Sorry Doc--my bad. It was amount of taxes paid and not charity.

Although they still paid more than Biden.

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Hilbilly says I was slapped--I was wondering what he was talking about.

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Get a life, Briwo.

"Well, 'per diem' means 'of God', so why would I pay taxes on God's money, for heaven's sake doncha' know?"


Get a life, Briwo.

#71 | Posted by rightiswrong at 2008-10-04 02:48 PM

aaahhh, the self retorting retort makes an appearance.

"Per Diem payments aren't taxable"

Like many things in the tax code...it depends. If your W-2 has anything in box 14 under code "L", it's per diem and/or other employee business expenses. The corresponding employee business expenses, along with all others, go on a long form 2106, and the reimbursements entered and subtracted, leaving the unreimbursed employee expenses as deductible.

Also, per diem and travel expenses assume you're paying at least half the upkeep on a place back "home". Otherwise, ALL per diem payments are considered taxable income. And it's fairly common to be in your home town, and away from your "tax home".

I have a feeling the IRS will want to scrutinize their returns now that they're aware of some of these details.

I know if I had a 'snow machine racing' business that grossed $10,000 and somehow declared a $17,000 loss red flags would go flying. How many years has he claimed a loss? 'Sarah' said this guy was a 'champion snow machine racer'? If he's shown a 'loss' too many years he's in deep doo doo. I suppose he's deducting the cost of his Piper Cub airplane or something?

Then there's the issue of Todd and the children's per diem. At the least they'll get some serious scrutiny at the state level now that people are aware of it.

It would be surprising if Palin is reelected fovernor once it's all said and done. The report by the investigator appointed unanimously by a 3-1 margin Republican controlled Judiciary Committee is due to come out as well. He 'hold me accountable' statement before she was given the VP nominee nod is totally at odds with her behavior since. My guess is she'll be held accountable whether or not she's done a 180 on that statement.

This is ridiculous.

McCain is running for President. Palin may not be qualified, but not because she didn't declare "per diem". Such payments are made specifically to avoid taxes, but your principal residence hardly qualifies.

McCain is major player in the Savings and Loan Scandal, personally destroyed more aircraft and carrier crewmen than any pilot they ever had in Vietnam, talks like a maverick but NEVER legislates that way, and, unlike Obama, McCain is a true out of touch elitist. He has consistently supported failed deregulatory policies which favor the interests of rich leaches over those that work and create the real market, however rigged it might be.

And . . . Nutcase has finally rung in, to settle the matter once and for all.


And . . . Nutcase has finally rung in, to settle the matter once and for all.

#77 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-10-04 06:52 PM

Yeah, the truth is a bitch huh?

A month from today, Rightiswrong(again) will be curled up in the corner, tugging his testicles, rocking back and forth, crying and mumbling the word maverick over and over again.

You all are so absurd. If she did count the travel/lodging reimbursements as taxable income, then she would have been entitled to deduct her actual expenses from that income, even if her actual expenses exceeded her allowed reimbursements.

Companies usually allow employees to determine if they want to go with an taking a fixed travel allowance or with deducting actual expenses. There are tax implications to choosing between the two. I.e you pay taxes if you choose to deduct your actual expenses, but you don't if you take an allowance.

And the quotes from the irs.gov. sites don't indicate what the federal rate is for Alaska travel. I imagine it's quite high.

we do not pay taxes on per diem. we also maintain two residences. the thought of paying taxes on per diem is idiotic at best. per diem is actually a boon to the employer as well as the employee.

A month from today, Rightiswrong(again) will be curled up in the corner, tugging his testicles, rocking back and forth, crying and mumbling the word maverick over and over again.

#78 | Posted by briwo

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Thousandth time now, I'm not voting for McCain. Never would, never will. I'll be fine whoever is president; it just doesn't matter that much. But you'll still be a douchebag.

Huffington Post's Seth Colter Walls mmmmm, sorry I trust that info as much as I trust the Clinton's...

we do not pay taxes on per diem. we also maintain two residences81 |

Posted by nanc at 2008-10-04 11:21 PM

The topper on your pick up and the trailer you pull do NOT count nanc.

"McCain is major player in the Savings and Loan Scandal"

Not according to the special presecutor.
en.wikipedia.org

"personally destroyed more aircraft and carrier crewmen than any pilot they ever had in Vietnam"
www.factcheck.org

I guess "nutcase" is a better handle than "baldfacedliar".

null - you have no idea how well we live - we do have those things, however they're for recreational use. must be hell being you. fyi - i'd opt for living in them if my family were willing to leave it all behind.

usa - you're a hemorrhoid on the butt of humanity.

"null - you have no idea how well we live - "

What the fuck are you talking about? I haven't posted on this thread.

sorry, i meant hbd. what's the difference? just wanted to see if you were paying attention.

Could America possibly ask for a better Vice President one heart beat away from being President??

#87 | Posted by USATrueandBlue7


You mean like Joe Biden?


BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!


Are you kidding me? Do you realize what you just said. If Obama dies (and from what I hear on the DR, it's more likely), then Joe Biden will be President!!!


Which brings me to the point that if Democrats win, Obama WILL be President. No one heart beat cliche -- Obama will be President.

So USA, what is you point when you say Sarah is one heart beat from teh Presidency (6-or-1-half dozen...)

don't laugh, eddie - it'll be like a remake of "forrest gump".

or would that be a re-remake?

I knew Forrest Gump.

Forest Gump was a friend of mine.

And Sarah Palin, you are no Forest Gump!

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