I believe it is at this point that we each begin filling the thread with our own partisan semi-facts.

I'll start:

HALLIBURTON!

also on ABC of all places......they said that it was not true when joe told us that even mccain voted for the tax increase on the 40 thou crowd.
the guy there said that mccain WASNT EVEN IN WASHINGTON DURING THAT VOTE...........

so if we are going fact checking.......lets make sure we go all the way around the room and be at least a little fair........or would that make too many of you liberal fucks too nervous?

Bushloverfool is being a little touchy these days. Wonder whats upset him?

"so if we are going fact checking.......lets make sure we go all the way around the room and be at least a little fair........or would that make too many of you liberal fucks too nervous?"

YEAH!

There is a clear winner this morning. ... Examine the flag pins," Doocy said. "Joe Biden had a flag pin, Palin had a flag pin. ... Her's is about three times the size of his, so I would say flag pin-wise, she is the hands down winner."

"so if we are going fact checking.......lets make sure we go all the way around the room and be at least a little fair"

YEAH!

Now if Only Palin didn't repeatedly answer questions she was never asked we might have actually gotten a fact or two out of her squeaky cake hole
Hows that for fact checking?

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted "the exact same way" as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMADINEJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, "Drill we must." But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to "raping" the Outer Continental Shelf."

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it's passage.

and these are some of the same people who said that barry answered all his questions last week.....

you are all just pissed that she didnt piss all over herself.............keep trying

it was also a lie about mccain not meeting with spain and I was SCREAMING at sarah to tell this one off

I HEARD IT MYSLEF ON CNN so it has to be true

mccain said that he would meet with any ally at any time.........he said it on video and if cnn werenet in the tank for obama they would have played that tape afterwards...........
IT WAS ON JUST LAST WEEK

atax

ACCORDING to abc...mccain WASNT EVEN THERE FOR THAT TAX INCREASE VOTE.....he was campaigning in penn....

that she didnt piss all over herself.............

She borrowed a pair of depends from Gampy?

"but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY."

Of course he did, when the original tax bill---which included these tax increases---was passed.

"John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline"

That's still voting the same way.

ACCORDING to abc...mccain WASNT EVEN THERE FOR THAT TAX INCREASE VOTE

Then how would he vote the same way Obama did ??

Fact check: Obama said he will meet with the likes of Ahmedinejad without precondition.

Biden denied it: A BLATANT LIE.

"John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline"

That's still voting the same way.

In the same way the President must pass a bill to fund government spending even though some asshole in congress added 10 million dollars to study butterfly shit at the local college in his district, only in this case it would be tantamount to giving our enemies a timetable of our impending withdrawal.

IRAQ

I think it's simple.
Bush spent all that time lying to you right'tards about what he was gonna do, and you guys bought it hook, line, and sinker.
Here we are 8 years later-with the mooseiah trying soooo desperately to sound like a Dem-and you guys are eating this shit up like it's candy.
Are you idjits incapable of learning anything?

OK-I'll admit-I'm disappointed she didn't have a meltdown like I expected-that would have been easier.
but to me-she sounded like she'd been drilling on talking points-THAT'S why she couldn't answer very many questions directly-she's an empty-headed talking point-nothing more.

Another lie from Biden is the amount of money we spent in Iraq for three weeks is more than than what we have spent in Afghanistan for 6 1/2 years.

Yo, there, BushLoverTwo. Ease it a bit! You're gonna blow a gasket. And you know how hard it is to find a replacement gasket for those old style flatheads.

At the end of the day the truth is Biden did not get called out on the carpet for lying during the debate, so he made a good showing and LEFT with both feet on the floor instead of in his mouth as usual. Palin did not burst into flames and sink like the titanic so she made a good showing. Tomorrow this will be yesterdays news and except for fact checking they both survived, personally I do not believe this one debate will influence most voters. ...

ACCORDING to abc...mccain WASNT EVEN THERE FOR THAT TAX INCREASE VOTE

Then how would he vote the same way Obama did ??

#13 | Posted by ATaxpayer at

thats the point........he didnt do what biden said

hey zot

Im fine..............being a political slut and wondering just how BIG THOSE TITS are on that gal at the other end just gets me pumped up.........you know what I mean............

They both twisted the Truth. Politicians are very good at nuance.

But, Palin was perfect!

She was a theperfect liar.

Biden is coming up to speed though! But, unfortunately he has too in order to be able to compete with the Republican Smear Machine. Because, as we all should know by now, it is all about winning the White House at ALL costs. McCain has proven this to us by his tactic of out and out lying just to try and win the White House to protect the Retugs rear.

I did like it that Biden at least tried to stick to the facts. But, even he had to venture into the Bushco Fantasyland just because that is apparently where most of the American Public still lives. But, it is Palin who has no qualms against just staying in Fantasyland for as long as it takes to convince the American People of the Big Lie.

I guess that comes from being a Christian though.

They very practiced at believing in and regurgitating a Myth that has no particular foundation in Reality.

You know...like "Because The Surge worked we are now victorious in Iraq".

thats the point........he didnt do what biden said.

Agreed I misunderstood you too much TV...

"Palin did not burst into flames and sink like the titanic...."

Now if she would'a pissed herself and burst into flames... Wow! What a show that would have been.

"...being a political slut and wondering just how BIG THOSE TITS are on that gal at the other end just gets me pumped up.........you know what I mean............"

#23 | Posted by bushlovertwo

Hey! Knock that line of thinking off! She's a married woman with a good house hubby and lotsa chilluns and two moose in the yard (life used to be so hard) and she's like all Christian y'a know. Keep talking all smutty like that and you're gonna burn. Burn I tells y'a!

(I'll bet those hot red pumps really gotcha going though, huh?)

"But, Palin was perfect!

She was a theperfect liar.

Biden is coming up to speed though! But, unfortunately he has too in order to be able to compete with the Republican Smear Machine. Because, as we all should know by now, it is all about winning the White House at ALL costs."
--DONNERBOY

Translation:

Republican lies: baaaaaad

Democrat lies: gooooood

does biden have a thing for bush,tuned in to hear about the big changes all i got was bush,bush,bush,bush and more bush,bush.

Once again the only two Polls that had Gov. Palin winning the debate was THE DRUDGE REPORT AND FOX NEWS, small wonder that the poeple that get thier News only from these two sources, still think that we have found WMD's in Iraq......FAIR AN BALANCED MY ASS!!!!!!

And to do one better, Joe lied 15 times.

FAIR AN BALANCED MY ASS!!!!!!

#30 | Posted by celisary

Is your ass ballanced? Dosen't seem like the rest of you is.

McCain has proven this to us by his tactic of out and out lying just to try and win the White House to protect the Retugs rear.

I'm thinking war crimes trials.

God said Bush will never be impeached. And that Bush will exit office with dignity and vindication.

McCain becoming the 44th President will be vindication enough for Bush.

God will vote on November 4th.

TakeitEZ-
re: God said Bush will never be impeached. And that Bush will exit office with dignity and vindication.

I guess my Bible is missing that quote from God.

Here are Biden's lies--

Joe Biden's 14 Lies

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted "the exact same way" as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, "Drill we must." But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to "raping" the Outer Continental Shelf."

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it's passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he's always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain's record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was "dead wrong on Iraq", because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn't see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn't meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of "part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20."

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

Did anyone notice that drivel Murphy posted? It was a newbie's post on the McLame.com website BLOG!!! Some anonymous fool posted this shit on that partisan blog and it has been copy and paste posted all over the web by Flushbot's like Murphy.

Cudos for Murphy for having the integrity to actually attribute her post, though!!! That's a shockingly honest twist from one of DR's righties. I sincerely congratulate you Murphy for showing some class.

It's funny to sit back and watch liberals wish Obama had picked Hillary instead of ole smokin joe biden, what a joke even biden said so...
lol lol lol ha ha ha...

ATAXPAYER-
Gee. What disinterested site did you cut-n-paste that from? (JohnMcCain.com, maybe?)

What a hoot!!!! While I was posting the above, Ataxhole posted the exact same crap without attribution.

Flushbot idiot.

God will vote on November 4th.

#34 | POSTED BY TAKITEZ

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I didn't know they let the patients use the computers at the mental hospital.

"1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted "the exact same way" as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY. "

Yes he did, when the original Republican bill passed which included these tax increases.

"11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was "dead wrong on Iraq", because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war"

That isn't proof of a lie. Witness Palin bashing Obama for voting the same way as, Biden pointed out, McCain did. "Dead wrong" refers to McCain's claim it would be "easy".

"12. Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn't see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more. "

Where, and under what circumstances?

"14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan. "

With a few minor exceptions for new provisions, what are you talking about? Rates?!?

Danforth:

Consider the source!!! This drivel was originally posted by a newbie first time poster on the McLoser.com website BLOG!!!!

You could go over there and sign up and post that "Biden eats fetuses for breakfast" and it would get Flushbot posted all over the web by midnight.

You're wasting time retorting a troll.

"You're wasting time retorting a troll."

Obviously somebody is just making shit up.

What about the 30 million illegal criminals in America? Why didnt they talk about that? Biden ? The librul Fairyland assclowns keep electing this clown like the Massholes keep electing the murderer ted kennedy. So we have the choice of the stealth Marxist,communist,socialist,mu
slim amatuer and the empty suit former war hero,with a hot vp. wtf?Good thing a president dont have much power.

"stealth Marxist,communist,socialist,mu slim amatuer"

Would someone please buy this moron a dictionary, a spellcheck, a history book, and a space bar?

"God will vote on November 4th."

We now have a date for the rapture.

I'm gonna take up drinking and smoking.

"We now have a date for the rapture."

Another one?

"We now have a date for the rapture."

Another one?

#48 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2008-10-03 08:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

yup. And we're using tongue this time. Maybe we'll even get to 3rd base!

yup. And we're using tongue this time. Maybe we'll even get to 3rd base!

#49 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-10-03 08:57 PM

A French rapture...ooh-la-la

"stealth Marxist,communist,socialist,mu
slim amatuer"

Danforth the teacher ,who cant do so he teaches. You are the teacher Danforth arent you?

There really is a Maverick family.
Old Texas name.

I've known one or two here and there.

And call the spelling police too.

Senator McCain, I know some of the original Mavericks, and, senator, with all due respect (chuckle), you're no maverick.

"And call the spelling police too."

Posted by controlledpairs

Don't forget The Wrong Fucking Word Squad.

(It's spelled correctly, it's just the wrong fucking word.)

" And we're using tongue this time. "

Son, in the immortal words of Benjamin Franklin, "They are so very grateful."

Hey axehole--

Why don't you click the links for each of the debate facts and check out the supporting facts for each one.

Murphy-
Can I just link to Obama.com and call it a win, or would you say that the Obama campaign is obviously biased?

"You are the teacher Danforth arent you?"

No, but you certainly need one. And pay attention this time.

Murphy,

The liar that posted the drivel on McLoser.com was a NEWBIE. It was his FIRST POST EVER. What kind of idiot reading ANY blog would pay attention to shit from an obvious troll?

But keep up the good work as a loyal Flushbot. The pervert from Palm Beach is proud of you!!! Maybe you'll win that all expenses paid trip to the Dominican Republic. But I don't know what the hell you'd do with the complimentary bottle of Viagra.

On lapel pins... Palin? Fail!

Palin wore what appeared to be a 'service lapel pin' or commonly known as a 'blue star lapel pin' to show support for her son who is serving active duty.

I'm moving to Alaska.
Then every time my daughter gives me any lip about school being 'too hard' or 'boring', I can point down the street to the alternative...

Quid,

Ever hear of the phrase:

"A picture is worth a 1000 words."?

You drove home your point with considerable effectiveness.

And this coming from a conservative and registered Republican.

@bushlovertwo

so liberals are "fucks"? ok.

what conservatives then, just "right"? i.e. liberals are wrong, conservatives are right?

making such a sweeping statement like that, no matter what i or you "are" makes YOU what exactly? a terrorist? i don't know, what? but it isn't good and it sounds violent.

God will vote on November 4th.

Posted by takitez at 2008-10-03 08:09 PM | Reply

And when his vote isn't counted we're all dead. Thanks Diebold errors.

I have just emailed a lifeline to McCain.

"God will vote on November 4th.
#34 | Posted by takitez at 2008-10-03 08:09 PM"

In which precinct?

"I have just emailed a lifeline to McCain.
#66 | Posted by takitez at 2008-10-04 04:10 AM"

That geezer needs a hell of a lot more than a virtual lifeline.

"In which precinct?'

Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Precinct 666.
Some sense of humor!

last night on larry king they had the factchceck lady on again and she has been on so many friggin times that she is starting to look pretty good
they are politicians and they stretch the truth in a debate.

anyone want some odds that tuesday night that same lady is on larry king with more factchecks tidbits?

my problem is when liberals here only report one side of the factcheck.
I will admit that some of the things that palin and mccain come up with are shall we say muddy........so why are THEY the only ones here who get that factcheck treatment most of the time????

oh yeah its a LIBERAL site...........or at least it USED TO BE.................hee hee hee hee hee

Add one more:

"When I and others in the legislature found out we had some millions of dollars in Sudan, we called for divestment through legislation of those dollars to make sure we weren't doing anything that would be seen as condoning the activities there in Darfur."

-- Sarah Palin, vice presidential debate, Oct. 2

THE PINOCCHIO TEST

Sarah Palin is exaggerating her role in leading the Sudan divestiture in Alaska. The legislative record shows that her administration was late in embracing the campaign to sell stock in companies that do business with Sudan, and that it initially opposed the divestiture. The Alaska Permanent Fund still invests in companies blacklisted by the Save Darfur Coalition.

That geezer needs a hell of a lot more than a virtual lifeline.

#68 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Hey

leave me out of it...

I will admit that some of the things that palin and mccain come up with are shall we say muddy........

#71 | Posted by bushlovertwo

Yeah, thanks for admitting it for the first time...but you've been pouncing on the other side for how long? Gee, you're so bi-partisan...

I have been more bipartisan than you might imagine but on this site, thats a sign of weakness.........

so DONT TELL ANYONE>.............SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH

for instance

according to fact check

palin said that obama voted 94 times to increase taxes or not support reduction and she is correct EXCEPT

23 were for measures that would have produced no increase, seven were for lowering and 11 would have increased..........

again...........muddy but we all know the truth of the bottom line

obama will try and tax us out of any situation...
he has called for increases in all sorts of other ways........

and this 250,000 thing.......how many small business owners is this going to raise taxes on............

and this 250,000 thing.......how many small business owners is this going to raise taxes on............

2% if you really are interested.

so thats 2% who will have taxes raised

and what if they dont have the money to give away health care to employees whereever the government tells them they have to go........

higher taxes and more money out for national health care

so of that 2% how many people will be let go becaue of obams if eleceted.

"...obama will try and tax us out of any situation..."

At least that would be a start. We'll need some FDR-like measures to extricate us from the desperate situation Bush got us into. Luckily Barack and Joe are up to it. McSame and McSarah? Giggle. herm