I don't have a crystal ball.

I just don't want to hear about how Joe Biden should treat Palin with kid gloves because she is a women. Both Biden and Palin are competing for the same job, vice-president, so I want to see a regular debate, hopefully about the issues where either side is not afraid to call it like they think it is.

Palin can't lose. Expectations for her are at zero.

Honestly I think the expectations are so incredibly low for Palin that if she manages to string together 3 or 4 complete sentences that stay on topic she'll be considered a winner by many. That's not to say she'll actually win, just be perceived that way. I can't imagine her actually out debating Biden in my worst of nightmares.

China

Airhead Alaska has landed in St. Louis. Get ready to rumble!

"Airhead Alaska has landed in St. Louis."

And she said, "wow, what a big river that is, what is the name?"

"Wow, lotsa people here. It's like a gazillion more bigger than Juneau."

If she doesn't shit her pants on stage it will be a success. Anything more than that and she has exceeded expectations.

Seriously, can anyone truely say that they want her as President? Or even better, that it doesn't scare the shit out of you to think about it happening?

Before her, I could imagine and feel comfortable with a McCain whitehouse, now I just feel sick thinking about it.

The network

If Palin loses, the American people win.

Who Will Win Tonight's Debate?

The local caterers, parking lot owners, and network ratings.

Well, according to the GOP camp, their plan is to "attack" Biden on issues such as his foreign policy stances. Biden is going to go postal. I am stocking up on chips and salsa, beer, and probably shots for each time Palin says she'll have to "get back to you."

""Wow, lotsa people here. It's like a gazillion more bigger than Juneau."

"Ya, it's nice to see another part of the country!"

"get back to you."

#12 | Posted by evashogouki at 2008-10-02 05:26 PM |

I think it's "git back te ya".

she'll have to "get back to you."

To 'Yah'

I hate to say it, but this is probably one of the most important "tipping point" events leading up to November. Hopefully, once and for all, Palin will show what she is about and the "undecideds" will make their choice.

My dad the asshole republican was attemping to waste my time today trying to make me listen to a the scare tactics talking points he was actually reading to me off sheets from his fax machine, including stuff like if Obama wins then Iran is going to be putting missiles in Venezuela. I feel sorry for anybody trying to talk intelligently in the kind of fear frenzied atmosphere the rethuglicans are trying to create.

I think it's "git back te ya".

#14 | Posted by panchovilla

That's the ticket...

Ever notice how she talks like a local newscaster from Fargo. Emphasis on the wrong words for emphasis sake?

Hey, it was sexy when Margie Gundersson did it though.

I was wondering how she got through 6 colleges and state university's journalism schools without knowing about magazines like Time and U.S. News and World Report, for example.

In this structured format, Biden should ignore Sara and just answer the questions as thoroughly as possible.

I think this question is silly considering the fact that there are hardly any objective posters here.

Actually TM, the few answers provided so far seem to be on the money.......

As low as expectations are, I still expect Palin to fail to meet them. She's one of the worst bullshitters I've ever seen in politics. If you can't answer the question "what newspapers do you read?" without naming a single paper, you're a lost cause.

I think this question is silly considering the fact that there are hardly any objective posters here.

That's not the point. Getting people on the record beforehand is fun, because it maximizes our taunting opportunities afterward.

If the American public learns anything about the character of these two VP candidates that helps them in their decision making process then I would say the American people win.

If it is the same old shit then I will go with China.

Who Will Win Tonight's Debate?

How do you define win? For the people who see Palin as a messenger from god and her idiocy as a test of their faith all she has to do is show up.
I think a more interesting question is:

If Sarak Palin is stumped by a question from the moderator will she speak in 'tongues'?

RCADE

Jimmy Kimmel ran a clip of her Katie Couric interview last night.

Then he said, "in high school we called that bullshitting".

If Sarak Palin is stumped by a question from the moderator will she speak in 'tongues'?

I'll have to get back to ya on that Darth....

Some say that expectations are so low that she almost can't fail but I disagree, she can manage to convince her base that she does not have the right stuff. Many have never watched her speak unscripted and this may be their only real chance. I am predicting that tonight will be a vote loser for the McCain campaign, if they could get out of this debate they would happily do so.

Biden will win unless he says something like,

Hey, you are one sassy articulate gal.

Who will win? Ron Paul!

That's not the point. Getting people on the record beforehand is fun, because it maximizes our taunting opportunities afterward.

#25 | Posted by rcade

The true purpose of the DRUDGE is reveled by the creator!

oh, crap, we have to decide?

Well then, of course, I will go with Biden... Sarah the Demon Hunter, has a good chance to just look clueless about the big issues that face this country. But, I bet she will be full of those one line zingers that are empty of substance but full of Fascist furor! But, they won't do her much good as it will be hard to play to the baser instincts of this crowd as they won't all be NEOCONS.

All Biden has to do is stay away from the booze until after the event and he should be fine. He already has the experience needed to be VP and does not have to "fake" it. He just needs to stay calm, keep control of his emotions and stick to the facts. But, I do hope he has a few Zingers of his own ready... just in case Sarah wants to try and play that game.

There.. that should be plenty of stuff to taunt ME with later!

Then he said, "in high school we called that bullshitting".

Funny. Did they bleep that word?

Who will win? The Brewers.

RCADE

Come to think of it the whole word made it on the air.

Who will win? Both sides.

Unless either of them says something so disastrous that you actually hear the crowd gasp in horror, BOTH sides will claim victory, as is usually the case.

Who else? Ron Paul will win the debate. ;-)

He predicted the economic crises and was actually taking about meaningful topics.

Is Admiral Stockdale in this year's debate?

No? Mike Gravel was as close as we got this time

Palin's zingers may not help during this economic crisis. Most people aren't looking for a comedian to put in the WH, they want smart, knowledgable leaders who can help lead us out of this Republican mess. I think that it is going to be impossible for McCAin Palin to win in these economic times. People are scared and they know who's been in charge for 8 years and they know they were fine when this team took over the reigns of power.

She will stink it up!!!
Obama's lead will be 10 by Mon.

"He predicted the economic crises and was actually taking about meaningful topics."

Lots of people predicted the economic crisis the day Bush was awarded the presidency. We remembered his Daddy, they all leave a crisis in their wake.
Dumbya will go home to Kinnebunkport and brag that his administration stole more than Daddy's. It is a competitive thing in the Bush family, has been for generations.

"He predicted the economic crises "

Who didn't?

Ah,
Back in the land of Nod, where the RCADE's of the world actually read newspaper fairy tales...

I guess some people do actual work while others read newspapers writen by fools for fools.

US Fools and World Retorts, Timewasters... I get them just to look at the pictures... except when NOBama is on the cover... then I use it for what it is really useful for... lining the bottom of the kitty litter box.

Sarah Palin is supposed to be stupid because she could only name one Supreme Court case...
Biden is intelligent yet he can't name ONE accomplishment that NOBAMA has ever made!

Hillary had 90% of the political cartoonists making fun of her sniper remarks yet Biden lied about being under sniper fire TWICE, once in Iraq and once in Afghanistan and yet not a single political cartoon making fun of him!

Sarah Palin is pilloried for the Bridge to Nowhere that BOTH NOBAMA and BIDEN voted IN FAVOR OF.

Danni is wishing upon a star that tonight's debate is a vote loser, but sorry Danni... not everyone is as stupid as the talking heads are. Sarah beat her own Party to be able to run for Governor and then beat the Democrat opponent. She didn't do that by being the airhead you and other women haters believe she is.

Unfortunately I will miss the fun and will have to watch her wipe the floor with Joe Blow Biden later (wonder who's identity he will steal for this debate?) because the Cubs are playing against the debate. Baseball before country.

Joe is soooooooo smart. He will win for sure. Palin is a bitch!

Thom the Lib

Irrelevant question. Almost nobody posting here is capable of thinking beyond party lines, or else Bush would be universally reviled, and Obama would be out on his ass for his FISA treachery. You will never see Herm saying Palin won or Pinche saying Biden did, so why even ask?

You don't need anyone to "go on the record" when you can predict their answer anyway.

Who else? Ron Paul will win the debate. ;-)

He predicted the economic crises and was actually taking about meaningful topics.

#39 | Posted by JayDee

What's more is Ron Paul is elling us what to do to fix it.

And his advice is not so bad either, no one will lose anything unless you are a billionaire

"He predicted the economic crises "

Who didn't?

#44 | Posted by nullifidian

Uh... let's see... The Democrats and the Republicans did NOT predict economic crisis.

Is this going to be the debate live blog or is the blog god going to start a new one?

Lots of people predicted the economic crisis the day Bush was awarded the presidency. We remembered his Daddy, they all leave a crisis in their wake.

Danni,

These guys named Frank(ie) and Dodd don't agree with you.

"Uh... let's see... The Democrats and the Republicans did NOT predict economic crisis."

Sorry, slow Eddie, but thousands of economists, pundits, etc. have been predicting this economic meltdown. If you're implying that Ron Paul has some special insight you're full of it.

"Your a dumbass"

Ah, the time honored self-retorting retort.

too bad we waste our time talking about 'who will win', when we should be saying, 'who can help keep our country from imploding'.

And that ain't palin.

Why bother, 2 talking heads saying nothing
but guarded rehearsed lines. Cheap media
entertainment for the masses.

Who Will Win Tonight's Debate?

Media outlets of course.

Larry

Sarah Palin will win.

If I'm wrong, I'll be back to admit it tonight.

Who Will Win Tonight's Debate?

Orville Redenbacher

In a real debate, no one is cut slack because of "low expectations".

It's a competition. No one gets seven points on the board because they've been a loser their last three games.

If Palin doesn't actually shit her pants tonight some nice person should bake her a pie and congratulate her for effort. Then have mercy on her and tell her just to go home.

I don't think many of you COULD admit if Sarah Palin won.

Just like you couldn't admit Pat Robertson "heard the Lord" that George W Bush would win in 2004.

I don't think many would care what kirk thinks, most of his post are too stupid and idiotic to give credence.

"He predicted the economic crises "

Who didn't?

#44 | Posted by nullifidian

Uh... let's see... The Democrats and the Republicans did NOT predict economic crisis.

#50 | Posted by Eddie a

Not Paulson thats for sure.

..and you know, we cant have someone "kookey" like Ron Paul who will tell us the truth about things.. noo we would rather have arogant cowboys and someone that looks like Dr. Evil out there saying..

"Hea, no need to change course or anything.. sure we are headed through a shipwreck zone but.. we got this.. even if the ship runs aground we will just punch the engines to flank speed and push right through it."

Biden / Palen? more of the same.. more of the same..

I'm more interested in how Palin interacts with the facts, reason's with them, and interacts with Biden. I'm not interested what she crammed learned since becoming McCain's running mate. Anyone who's been in high school or and college can do that and spit it back with authority, without having a clue.

Though I'm a democrat, I like Palin the person and personally I hope that she makes a good showing. On the other hand, no matter how well she does at this point, the writing's on the wall: She's not ready.

"He predicted the economic crises "
Who didn't?

#44 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

McCain. Remember that the fundamentals of our economy are still strong.

I think that Joe will go easy on her so that the sexists won't label him sexist.

Palin on the other hand will try her hardest to be as snarky as possible.

how could anyone not living under a rock be undecided at this point? WHO is either of them going to convince otherwise.. the stupid vote?

Oh well, if the stupid vote prevails... dems win I guess.

Is this the official drinking game thread? One shot for every time Palin says "yah".

People have been saying everything under the sun since Palin hit the scene, its absurd.

She believes in witchcraft, she believes dinosaurs are alive, bla bla bla.. its stupid, I'm sick of it. She is just like every other moronic politician who thinks they know exactly what is best for you and by god they are going to give it to you like it or not.

Who's gonna win?

Joe Biden FTW.

Sarah is out of her depths, out of her league.

Hell, she's out of her mind as far as Spud can tell.

She's gonna have to try to remember all the talking points she's had drilled into in the last few weeks and if the Katie Couric interview taught us anything it would be that she can't simultaneously do that and project her folksy hockey mom persona.

It'll be a series of rushed meaningless and uncomfortable pauses fer SCary Failin.

Biden, otoh, would do well to emphasize the world of differences that exist between the two in an understated manner by maintaining a serious, sober, almost somber tone that is respectful but still shows off his vast amount of experience and gravitas.

This is so gonna kick ass!

Spud has beers a'chillin and popcorn at the ready.

Back when it counts.

Be Well.

"rushed meaningless words and uncomfortable pauses"

Be Well.

Joe should just lift her dress and eat her out on stage.

That way he will be sure to break the ice.

I don't think Biden will attack her at all. I think she will spend her entire time attacking obama.

Piranha Barracuda -- Pitbull & Lipstick

One thing fer sure, this debates viewership numbers will be substantially higher than the last debate.

Be Well.

I will keep a sharp eye out for Bush's Lil' Black Box, you know, that mysterious little rectangular "bump" on his back during the 2004 debate. Will the puppeteer be somewhere offstage feeding the puppet answers?

I heard the McCain camp's so worried they're trying to get Tina Fey to stand in for Palin tonight.

Gwen barely made it onto the stage with those crutches.

At least she'll have one in case there's a girl fight.

In breaking news, Joy just took out Pigsquatch on Earl. Palin to help field dress unfortunate giant pig.

"how could anyone not living under a rock be undecided at this point? WHO is either of them going to convince otherwise.. the stupid vote?"
-nmg_no

Talked to 2 college students TODAY who are.

One of them, a black guy from my church is caught between standing for innocent life (abortions kill nearly 1/2 of all balck babies) and his dad who said NOT voting for Obama was voting against his own blackness!

There's a subtle "I'll disown you" vibe going there. Is that *typical* of you Democrats?

Moneywar--suck it, biatch

The real question for tonight is: "Hair up or hair down?"

If her hair is down it means she is wearing an earpiece underneath.

If that's so, I hope the crowd is quiet during her answers so she can hear them.

-wearing an earpiece underneath.

Or GW's Lo-Jack.
You know, in case he wandered off.

Love the electric blue shirt.... Not!

I will keep a sharp eye out for Bush's Lil' Black Box, you know, that mysterious little rectangular "bump" on his back during the 2004 debate. Will the puppeteer be somewhere offstage feeding the puppet answers?#78 | Posted by evashogouki at 2008-10-02 08:37 PM | Reply

How's the kool aid tonight?

Just remember this November--your guy needs to actually win the electoral college to win the Presidency, so no bitchin' come midNovember!

It begins.

Be Well.

Palin looks hot!

You can call me Bubala!

Can I call you Joe?

Keep it in your pants.

"Can I call you Joe?"

Yeeeech!

Palin fell and hurt her wrist while practicing for the debate so she's suppose ot have a bandage on.

In case anyone needs it --

LIVE STREAM OF DEBATE --

These are the non presidents that vanish in the woodwork about March.

Hello, Soccer Moms?

Palin you ROCK!

A "bandage" with crib notes on it.

"I'll betcha...."

She's stating the obvious and her voice is already giving out.

Yeah, suspending his campaign worked out real well.

Holy shit is her voice shaking.

They are both very good at presentation.

She's a little nervous.

Palin 1
Biden 0

So far

Ride, you're so full of shit.

Rhetoric!

Address the question!

Palin 2
Biden 0

Still counting

Riiiiight!!

Good ol' Gwen.... "Neither of you answered that question."

Every time Sarah sez "Maverick" ya gotta drink!

Spud's half gunned already and we're only a coupla minutes in.

Be Well.

heh, heh, heh...it's just the DR way Briwo. I'm just pre-empting the majority speak here. LOL.

Darn right!

wow Ride, you are so objective.

Dude, they came out swingin'!

Reminds me of Tyson/Holyfield I!

2/2 for blows landed straight on the nose!

I think I just threw up!

Spud musta' just come from a clown party...that always has him gunned.

"wow Ride, you are so objective."

Don't say that. She'll go crying to Rcade.

Oprah's mom was taken advantage of too. She knew she shouldn't have been given that much credit, yet she still spent it.

Hey Briwo, their all idiots. Remember though, I predicted an Obama landslide, LONG before he even won the Dem nomination.

Black suit to hide the black box.

Notice Biden's use of McSame's own words.

their=they're

Is it just me, or is Biden a scary looking fella? Would make a great movie villian.

I think maybe she is bad in interviews because it is harder to lie to one person than to millions.

She's obviously good at that.

Shouldn't you be writing?

94 times? Or was it 94 times?

NO!!! Bullshit!! This has been disproven over again!!!!!

Oh how I wish there was a ticket that I actually WANTED to vote for this election year.

Don't say that. She'll go crying to Rcade.

#114 | Posted by nullifidian at 2008-10-02 09:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

...says the frenetic flagrant flagging finger....NULLandVOID (aks Billy'O'Crap'O')

What is she looking at? You're not supposed to have notes!

WHAT CRAP!!!

"I may not answer the questions..."

Wow! She can't and won't answer the questions.

Yah, I'm goin' to to talk straight--and duck the questions.

Biden is handling her folksy bullshit pretty well so far.

Now, if they would just answer the questions...

Wait, does she really think a debate is about talking to the American people and not addressing issues presented at the debate? Sounds like a cop-out to me.

Sarah: I'm not gonna answer yer question

...I'm gonna talk straight?

Whargarbl?!

Be Well.

OH yeah! Tax employee healthcare! That's the way.

Employers won't pass this on at all. Weyerhaeuser is already cutting most health benes and forcing employees into high deductable plans.

Folks "they" never answer the questions.....ya' all don't get it yet.

If you all had really wanted change....Dems needed to have voted Kucunich and Repubs Ron Paul.....too late now.

She's talking too fast.

Shows how nervous she is.

Have people been warned to tie up their dogs and cats before listening to Palin's voice?

Yeah, she is...

Avoiding paying taxes by using loopholes is not being patriotic.

Joe is correct.

Be Well.

Oh here we go with the "folksy" answers, please provide details.

Spending increased more under Bush than any time in history. And McSame wants to continue the same policies.

Well darn right...

She has said a whole lot without really saying anything.

I love how she actually openly admitted that she may not be answering the questions the way Biden or the moderator would want them. HAHA because she's talking directly to America!

What a crock of shit.

Way to go Joe!

"That's not patriotic"

Blamo!

So you libs gonna admit if YOU'RE wrong in your predictions?

The government is evil. The people are helpless to change it back to government of, by, and for the people.

Trickle down tax breaks.

I get so tired of hearing that sick shit.

"Avoiding paying taxes by using loopholes is not being patriotic."

That's the problem of the Congress, not the taxpayer.

OOOOOOOOOO!!

She's talking too fast.

Shows how nervous she is.

No, just shows how Canadian she really is.

90% of small business make less than 250,000 ergo Sarah is fulla shit.

Not wealth redistribution, just fair.

Joe's doing good.

Be Well.

Double foreign assistance.....LOL

What is she reading?

Why is everyone freaking out because she is a little nervous? Biden just called John McCain Barak Obama. Where's the criticism?

oooooooohhhhhhhh....diss on the bridge to nowhere.

That stung.

Oh no...Biden is nervous again!!!!

McSame/Palin 08
Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss.....

Joe's drunk....but he sure is a CHARACTERIZER.

No, just shows how Canadian she really is

~Taxman

You take that back!!!!!

Them's fightin' word, dangit!

Be Well.

Stick to the questions Palin; otherwise you just look scripted.

90% of small business make less than 250,000 ergo Sarah is fulla shit.
#149 | Posted by dethspud at 2008-10-02 09:21 PM

No kidding!

"Stutterin' Joe, Whaddya know?"

I have friends in AK, they tell you a different story.

Joe's scratching his face an awful lot. So he loses.

BigOil are not Sarah's biggest fans?

Anybody buying that load of shit?

Even fer a second?

Didn't think so.

Be Well.

WTF is she talking about?

How long have I been at this, 5 weeks?

Now there's some honesty...

"Massive oversight!"

Off topic curiosity. For those of you on the left...do you ever visit forums/websites that sway to the right? Which ones?

I think Joe is suffering from having to li