Let's do this ASAP!

QUIZ Question #1: If the presidential elections are held and results give one candidate an electoral majority of just one vote, and then that candidate becomes incapacitated, who becomes President and for how long?

QUIZ Question #2: If the presidential elections are held and results give one candidate an electoral majority of just one vote, but a lawsuit challenges the winner's constitutional qualifications to serve as President, who becomes President and for how long?

QUIZ Answers after the debate.

It might not be a bad idea to abolish the vice-presidency, as long as there clearly defined succession chain.

Or at the very least, why not have vice-presidential elections in even years when not being presidential election years?

Or since the vice-president is the president of the senate, why not let them elect the president of the senate who would become "acting-president" should something happen?

So you want Pelosi next in line for the Prez - you have got to be kidding!

If we were ever going to abolish the vice presidency and didn't do it before Cheney became VP then we will probably survive any other VP ever elected. Can anyone think of any VP more corrupt and power hungry than that sick psycho?

1) 4 Years cause the President Elect hasn't served an ounce of His term.

2) He still becomes President until they can prove He is Inelegable to serve in office and then His Vice Presidential runing mate takes over.

Larry

Oh and the Vice President is a part of BOTH the Executive and Part of the Legislative Branches but is wholy of NONE of them.

Larry

Can anyone think of any VP more corrupt and power hungry than that sick psycho?

#7 | Posted by danni

LBJ

Can anyone think of any VP more corrupt and power hungry than that sick psycho?

#7 | Posted by danni

Di ....Di....Che....n.......

It's right on the tip of my tongue....

LBJ

#10 | Posted by wisgod

I agree, but at least in the end he showed he had a conscious by not running for president again. He was afraid someone would do to him what he helped do to kennedy.

Wrong. The question was MORE corrupt and power hungry. Not AS.

MSGT-
Pelosi is Speaker of the House, not president of the senate. She's not a senator. You do know we have a bicameral legislature, right?

Actually, Dylanfan if the VP step were eliminated and not replaced by any other step, then the next in line would be Speaker of the House.

leave the office of vp, just abolish our current vp.

QUIZ Question #1: If the presidential elections are held and results give one candidate an electoral majority of just one vote, and then that candidate becomes incapacitated, who becomes President and for how long?

Answer -- If a president elect cannot perform the duties, then the vice-president elect takes the presidential oath of office to serves for the entire four-year term as President.

(Significance: A VP candidate is potentially a 4 year President.)

QUIZ Question #2: If the presidential elections are held and results give one candidate an electoral majority of just one vote, but a lawsuit challenges the winner's constitutional qualifications to serve as President, who becomes President and for how long?

Answer -- If a president elect is legally-stayed from taking office due to apparently disqualifying information (i.e., disputed status as a "natural-born" US citizen, or younger than the Constitutional age of service, etc.), then the VP, if qualified by citizenship birth status and age, assumes the duties of president until and if the president can clear the legal doubts.

(Significance: If the SCOTUS were petitioned to deny McCain his role as POTUS, if he were to win, due to his birth in the Panama CZ, then Palin could become acting POTUS until the courts decided whether the birth in the Panama CZ meets the constitutions requirement for a POTUS to be a natural-born citizen.)

The Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution states that "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." Thus, to serve as Vice President, an individual must:

* be a natural born U.S. citizen
* not be younger than 35
* have lived in the U.S. for at least 14 years

TNC & MSGT -

My understanding was that your comment, MSGT, was in response to Member's suggestion of the Senate electing a 'president' to succeed the POTUS should he or she be unable to continue his or her duties, hence my snarky comment that Pelosi is in the house.

If you were responding to the idea of skipping the VPOTUS and going to the Speaker, then I apologize.

There, that should be cleaned up!

we need vice presidential candidates so the parties can keep their bases happy. without them, parties would become fractured and break apart.

I know none of you here are suggesting that we take multi-party elections seriously.

ack is a dip-fuck

Hag -- I think Professor Ackerman is trying to say exactly what you said is what's wrong with the Presidential election process. Instead of preventing this practice of adding a peon from some underrepresented faction of a party as a VP -- a dangerous practice -- let the party choose a candidate who speaks for what he represents. And if a party cannot get its stuff behind that candidate, then too bad.

I meant to write "Instead of PERPETUATING this practice of adding a peon from some underrepresented faction of a party as a VP -- a dangerous practice -- let the party choose a candidate who speaks for what he represents. And if a party cannot get its stuff behind that candidate, then too bad."

Can anyone think of any VP more corrupt and power hungry than that sick psycho?

#7 | Posted by danni

LBJ was the most corrupt, power hungry VP we have ever had in my life-time. He didn't run for re-election because he knew he would get his fat ass whipped if he did. It would have been a landslide against him.

TNC, what you would get (if you didn't also change the way a president was elected to include some kind of instant run-off process) would be that the president would be elected by a smaller and smaller percentage of the voting population. The days of a candidate winning the electoral college and also winning the popular vote would be over.

Can anyone think of any VP more corrupt and power hungry than that sick psycho?
#7 | Posted by danni

LBJ was the most corrupt, power hungry VP we have ever had in my life-time.
#26 | Posted by Sniper

Really, Sniper? Really?

Really, Sniper? Really?

#28 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

No doubt about it ace. He had a 'chick screwing' president killed to get his reward.

"(LBJ) had a 'chick screwing' president killed"
-Buffalo Sniper

As long as we are changing our government why not consider choosing legislators the way we choose jurors, one term by lottery. No campaigning, no second term, no pensions, less corruption.

By lottery?

That's the way Vonnegut did it in Harrison Bergeron. His president was eerily similar to....

I think I'll have to vote nay on the lottery proposal.

I agree with Sniper. Ol' Landslide was the most power hungry VP ever. I don't think he had JFK killed, but he was fiercely power hungry.

Why do libs always want to change the constitution?

Because they hate it.

Oh no Murphy it isn't the left who wants to add a Constitutional Amendment baning flag burning it's not the left who wants a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. Sorry

Larry

Damm!! This place is filled to the brim with flamming left wing freakazoids!

Damm!! This place is filled to the brim with flamming left wing freakazoids!

Why do libs always want to change the constitution?

Because they hate it.

~Murphy.

Murph, BushCo have assaulted practically every single ammendment in theiir eight years in office. Far from defending that "scrap of paper" they have continually wiped their asses with it.

They even tried to pass an ammendment to make gay folks permanent second class citizens.

Why are you so wrong all the time?

Are yer talking points from Rushbot or O'Lielly?

Please don't say 'Colt-face' coz Spud is trying to eat right now.

Be Well.

The Hulkster says that the VP position should be decided in a Battle Royale. The last person left in the ring gets to be President. The 2nd-to-last person left in the ring gets to be Vice President.

The dollar would look so much better with my face on it. And it would prettier if done with red and yellow.

Vote Hogan '08, brother!

HULKAMANIA FOREVER

Hagbard_Celine at 2008-10-03 11:05 AM

Sorry, just cycling back after work and having the beighbors over. But after read and rereading your question, I'm sorry to say, I don't understand. Why would participation shrink?

Danforth at 2008-10-03 11:29 AM

(Don't you think that LBJ was a "chick screwing president (and VP) in his own league?)

If there was no VP when Clinton ran for office, Al Gore would have never invented the internet or made a movie where he won the noble prize for scaring people with global warming...lol