If nothing else, she has a vested interest in an Obama win with her book carrying Obama's name in the title and set to come out on Inaugaration Day.

gwen ifill? couldn't they have gotten whoopi goldberg?

Well isn't this just peachy king!

Friggin A...

The fix is in. Just like the early voting in Ohio.

If Obama loses, it will not be because of the media. He is their darling.

what? was tupac busy?

oh, wait a minute...

Why not Keith Olbermann?

alan colmes?

Or why not just go ahead and let Sandra Bernhard do it? She can go ahead and mouth off that Palin a bitch and a whore because we know that is what Ifill will be thinking the entire time.

the debate has now become a sham.

good capture on this anamerican.

In THE BREAKTHROUGH, veteran journalist Gwen Ifill surveys the American political landscape, shedding new light on the impact of Barack Obama's stunning presidential campaign and introducing the emerging young African American politicians forging a bold new path to political power.

Watch her in this video, reporting on Palin's speech at the convention. She acts like she has a small turd under her nose, and is disgusted that she has to report on how moving it was. I see a big problem here with this hack moderating the debate. Watch this and tell me I'm wrong.

nanc and Murphy and Phoenix and I hould be the debate moderators.

We'd be good at it too, huh, nanc? lol

Front page on the real drudge site. Hmmm.......

If I were a student of sociology, I would be paying very close attention to this election.

The pop culture/media complex has abandoned all pretenses of objectivity on a guy who's going to lose the election.

The resultant meltdown afterwards will be the most interestig thing in the world.

Be ready for it.

chris - i would be a good moderator, having aided in the upbringing of three great children. #one rule - mom's always right - rule #two - when in doubt, see rule #one! who's phoenix? murphy would be fair - as for you, i'm not so sure about...

pinche - some of u.s. have been preparing our entire lives for such an occasion.

Well, with Brokaw in the McCain camp it's kind of a wash, isn't it?

You wingnuts are so funny.

Ifill has been hosting Washington Week in Review for years. I guess because of the color of her skin you're going to assume she'll be partisan in her questions.

You forget both candidates answer the same questions? Duh.

Everyone is already buzzing that Palin is going to fall flat on her face tomorrow night.

She won't. With the bar set so low from her Couric interviews, she can't help but do well.

It's the "George W effect" If she doesn't drool they'll congratulate her.

Ifill has been hosting Washington Week in Review for years. I guess because of the color of her skin you're going to assume she'll be partisan in her questions.

No, that's just something an uninformed partisan asshole would say to play the race card when they can't address the evidence right in front of them. This woman has a book coming out about Obama, and has clearly showed contempt for Palin and Republicans in the past. But lets' bring race into it, because that's all you've got, right, Alexa?

AND American Loonity!

Sorry, Alex, got the wrong idiot mixed up in the race card comment.

It's the "George W effect" If she doesn't drool they'll congratulate her

Which goes a long ways towards explaining your perception that Obama "won" his debate.

But whatever makes you happy.

I guess because of the color of her skin you're going to assume she'll be partisan in her questions.

Jesus.

There you have it, folks.

Which goes a long ways towards explaining your perception that Obama "won" his debate.

Go check the polls. Personally, I thought they were fairly even. No knockout punches. Slight edge to Obama because McCain couldn't even be bothered to look at his opponent. Bad move when introducing yourself to the voters.

But Obama certainly didn't get his ass kicked in the minds of most. That loony impression belongs to the 27%ers like you, pinche.

When in doubt, stack the deck.

murphy would be fair - as for you, i'm not so sure about...

#16 | Posted by nanc at 2008-10-01 12:47 AM

I'd be the fairest one of all of you.
Your idea of being "fair" is to be pro-McCain/Palin.

You and Murphy continue to drool over McCain/Palin while I don't really care for either McCain or Obama. I'm a registered independent who isn't thrilled with either candidate. I'd be the most impartial person of the debate moderators. For the simple fact you named Murphy as being "fair" shows that you yourself would not even be close to being able to be impartial as Murphy is solidly pro-Sarah/McCain -- the same as you are.

Sorry, Alex, got the wrong idiot mixed up in the race card comment.

#23 | Posted by cookfish at 2008-10-01 01:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Gee, with an apology like that how could I hold a grudge?

who's phoenix?

A female Drudgie who, although much more to the left than I am, seems to be open-minded and balanced in her opinions. She and I would provide some counter-balance to you and Murphy who are far, far right.

PINCHE

I hit your sore, racist, spot.

The locations and moderators for the debates were picked months ago before anyone even knew who the final candidates would be.

Those of you pretending this is 'stacking the deck' obviously don't know the simplest facts about how these debates were set up by the commission.

I'm a registered independent who isn't thrilled with either candidate.

Except one of them is a goddamn Communist, Chris.

One of them has a inherent disgust of the country he seeks to "lead".

One of them seeks to tear your country apart so that he may "re-build" it into a model of socialist ideology.

Don't be silly.

Everything you love about the United States, Obama hates.

This goes way beyond the hyperbolic perceptions about "neo-con Republicans" you've developed by listening to California talk radio the past several years.

This is a tad more fundamental and real.

Pinche Madre = Bold face liar.

Everything you love about the United States, Obama hates.

This goes way beyond the hyperbolic perceptions-

It sure does. You're a lunatic.

Pinche but you admit to being a liar right?? The thing is that is all you have. You can't tear down his legacy. All you have is lies.

You're a lunatic.

Oh yeah?

Well you're a poo-poo face.

All you have is lies.

Lies, I tell you...

I have "half-truths", too...

Pinche spouts his nightly tirade of lies but does anybody even listen? No I think not. He has become obsolete.

Hints and Allegations...

Oh I forgot to mention obfuscation. few have mastered that skill as well as you.

Pinche spouts his nightly tirade of lies but does anybody even listen?

I still ♥ Pinche, lol.

He makes me laugh. I like dry humor.

Pinche spouts his nightly tirade of lies but does anybody even listen?

Apparently you do.

You're addicted to me.

That's why you show up like clockwork.

Every night.

I own you.

One of them seeks to tear your country apart so that he may "re-build" it into a model of socialist ideology.

Interesting, gaffe or slip!

One now has to question where mao actually resides.

I like dry humor.

#44 | Posted by CalifChris at 2008-10-01 01:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Like Obama is a commie?

He isn't joking, chris. He's nuts.

One now has to question where mao actually resides.

Panama.

Panama?

Did your family move its cattle ranch?

PINCHE

Rastaninja was here long before you showed up tonight.

Did your family move its cattle ranch?

Nope, he just likes canals.

Rastaninja was here long before you showed up tonight.

No he wasn't.

But whatever makes you feel good.

JJ,

Nice to hear from ya!

How is the night shift treatin ya?

AU FYI Rastaninja is Jackass/Hardcore/Messiah He isn't to be trusted. Just to let You know.

Larry

They all have similar jackass styles

This site is a hoot

I can't wait for 4 years of wingnuts spitting at their computer screens.

I probably won't post much after Obama wins. Just started as a place to vent at Bush and Co.

Once the government is back in steady hands I'll rest a little easier and read a little so I can laugh my butt off at the Rushbots on the verge of strokes.

:-)

This video, with a FOX News reporter asking the question, should make McCain's supporters very nervous. 26 seconds long (someone explain it to PINCHE. He's on dialup and can't watch it):

There is no such thing as a non-partison moderator.
Look at McCain's policy positions and tell me you'd pull the McCain lever and I'll have the guys in white jackets take you away.

Larry what is your problem with me? I never did anything to you.

You like to lie a lot don't You Jackass aka rastaninja Hmmmmmmmmmm

Larry

Larry you are confused. I never did anything to you. If I did why don't you tell me what I did that was so bad?

RASTA

After 8 years of Bush few of us are in our best moods.

:-)

AU you are right about that. I can't wait to tune into Rush and Hannity the day after the election and hear the meltdown. After that I hope their ratings tank and we never have to hear them again.

IDIOT

You got yourself an Abusive Flag.

I'm sure RCADE will look up your ISP and ban you like he did your other ID's.

Gwen Ifill is moderating the Veep debate?

Sweet! Spud likes her. She's a good egg.

In the tank fer Obama you say?

Bwa hah hah hah hah hah hah!

Hey, if Gwen can just keep from laughing out loud everytime Caribou Barbie opens her squeaky cakehole then she'll be more fair and balanced than most folks could manage.

Pinchaloaf and Jeff making commie cracks agin?

* YAAAAWN *

See here's the thing, kidlets.

There is no left left in American politics.

No commies at all. None.

The right, otoh, have gone so far to the right that it could be more truthfully said that they are neo-fascists.

GOPhers are closer in spirit to Nazis than Dems ever will be to Commies.

/The more you know!

Be Well.

Maybe Palin, in her opening remarks, should ask Ifill for a signed copy of her book, "Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama".

That way everyone is watching the debate will know the moderator is in the tank for Obama.

"Once the government is back in steady hands I'll rest a little easier"

Ja wohl!

"Obama Supporter is Moderator for Debate"

More bleating from the frightened herd.

Hey Doc.
Consider your outrage if the moderator of this event was the author of a book to be released on Inauguration Day about McCain's rise from the prison camps of Vietnam to the position of candidate for the President.

And don't tell me there wouldn't be any outrage.

I've seen outrage from you and others for much less.

I don't know if there would be any outrage--I suppose there would be as there's never any shortage of outrage, whether it be over large matters or nothing at all--but it sure wouldn't come from me.

Have you read the book in question? Are you fully aware of its contents?

As I said, check out Hofstadter's "The Paranoid Style in American Politics" and tell me if you recognize anyone.

"Once the government is back in steady hands I'll rest a little easier"

Sorry.
Ike and JFK are both dead.

Hey anamerican would You be outraged if the moderator was "In the Tank" for McCain?? Would You be declaring that was unfair??

Larry

Yes, Larry, I would acknowledge the bias.

The debates are serious and any moderator shouldn't be this obvious in their own bias.

Have Palin cancel the debate. Tell the U.S. how biased and unfair PBS is, and how biased Ifill is - to the point where she can't be fair. I'm sure that in RWW (right wing world) the equivalence will work. After all, the Democrats wouldn't debate on Fox. Of course it's not the same, a fully Democratic primary candidate debate, versus two VP's of different parties, but you'll get some traction.

Of course the rest of the Nation will view this as a fear based decision based on the interviews Palin's had already.

I enjoy this, though. The right is already laying the groundwork for Palin's failure in the debate. I think you'll be more surprised and relieved with her debate performance.

Then you can spin this as "despite the horribly biased evil Ifill, Palin knocked it out of the ball park!"

"The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations."

So anamerican it would be best to find some hermit in the boonies somewhere that doesn't have cable nor a tv nor knows either Obama or McCain to do the debate then?? Is THAT what You are in effect saying??

Larry

How about just putting in a moderator that isn't so obviously in the tank for Obama? How hard is that? In YAVWorld, stupidity reigns supreme.

chris - i don't DROOL over anybody. the moderator's job is to ask the questions, keep the peace and make sure those debating DO NOT go over their allotted time - how hard can it be?

guess we'll find out after one of biden's 40 minute diatribes in which he says NOTHING!

I've got to get ready for work. May check back during my break or lunch to see how having this moderator for a debate has been spun as being a conspiracy to favor Palin.

Larry, why are you even here? Didn't you just post a big whiny thread that everyone here was picking on you, and you were leaving for good? Is it safe to assume that everything else you say is just bullshit too? Sure seems that way.

It is rare that any judge does not have some prejudice in any contest or legal case. The question is, will it affect his performance or judgement? The moderator has his reputation on the line also--his future employment could easily be affected.

The debates are serious and any moderator shouldn't be this obvious in their own bias.

How about just putting in a moderator that isn't so obviously in the tank for Obama? How hard is that?

Everyone has bias. Fairness isn't about being unbiased, it's about knowing your bias, being aware of how it affects your views, and working to avoid allowing it to affect the job you do as a professional.

I see that I agree with Bob.

"The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations."
copyright it flag

"Ike and JFK are both dead."

Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Thanks, Zat.

It is rare that any judge does not have some prejudice in any contest or legal case. The question is, will it affect his performance or judgement? The moderator has his reputation on the line also--his future employment could easily be affected.

Bob - She's got a book due out praising Obama scheduled to release on Inauguration Day. HOW MANY JUDGES FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY?! Are you totally blind, deaf, and dumb? She clearly is biased against Palin and Republicans - watch the video, dummy:

"Thanks, Zat."

Posted by Doc_Sarvis

How about Rush Limbaugh and Bill Maher co-moderate?

That ought to be fun.

"I think you'll be more surprised and relieved at her (Palin's) debate performance...."

I would be surprised if the woman thinks better on her feet under pressure than sitting down with little or none.

i'd rather watch THOSE two debate, zat! with sarah and joe as moderators!

If the current tone of right-wing blogs is an indication, they've surrendered, with ill grace of course. Interesting how quickly McCain has been (re)added to their enemies list. I guess they'll stay home November and stab at their eyes with needles.

"THOSE two"

It would be like matter meeting antimatter; Annihilation.

"stab at their eyes with needles"

Implicit: They're so dumb they might miss.

You got yourself an Abusive Flag.

I'm sure RCADE will look up your ISP and ban you like he did your other ID's.

#65 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Isn't there a DR version of "The View" that would suit you better, Sally?

"stab at their eyes with needles"

zed - so that's the HOPE snowjobama's been awaiting?

Ifill should be replaced. Otherwise, the debate should be canceled and moved to another date. Her actions already prove she cannot be fair in the V.P. debate.

if anybody feels ifill should be replaced, let them write here:

Gwen Ifill's book doesn't mean she's in the tank for Obama. His candidacy is a "breakthrough" regardless of whether he wins the election, because he's the first black on a major party's presidential ticket.

The fact that her book's timed to make a lot of money if he wins -- and will be much less successful if he loses -- does call her impartiality into question.

Ifill should be replaced. Otherwise, the debate should be canceled and moved to another date.

Is this the point of Malkin's media storm -- to give Palin more time to bone up on presidentin'?

Perhaps the McCain campaign should follow the Dem example.

Ifill should be replaced. Otherwise, the debate should be canceled and moved to another date.

Is this the point of Malkin's media storm -- to give Palin more time to bone up on presidentin'?

#103 | Posted by rcade at 2008-10-01 10:21 AM

Malkin is not the only one talking about this, Rcade. Look on Drudge Report or google Moderater for VP Debate Gwen Ifill. Its all over the place.

"Ifill has been hosting Washington Week in Review for years. I guess because of the color of her skin you're going to assume she'll be partisan in her questions."

#19 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

AU ignores the book coming out and goes straight for the race card. AU is fucking retarded.

That established, I don't see how a moderator can really do much of anything to swing it in favor of their candidate. As long as the same questions are asked, the same amount of time alotted per candidate, etc.

Yes the percieved injustice here would almost be as bad as having obama debate with a baptist minister as the moderator.

You know, he was white and McCain is white-ish, actually kinda yellow-ish, but you understand.

The election is over and McSame has lost.

The body language and tone of the moderator (or reporter asking the questions) can speak volumes.

Big deal, everyone already knows who they're voting for - Malkin's crazy if she thinks this debate is going to change anything. That said, I'd like to see Michelle Malkin kiss Sarah Palin.

Obama supporter vandalism:

Obama image painted on Republican Club building

NEW SMYRNA BEACH -- Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama made an appearance here over the weekend at the campaign headquarters of the Republican Club of Southeast Volusia, or at least his image did.

A likeness of the Illinois senator, in purple spray paint, was stenciled on the front window and outside columns of the Third Avenue headquarters overnight Friday.

Club officials reported the vandalism Saturday morning and told police they would be willing to prosecute the responsible party.

"I think it is some un-American, uninformed and misguided individual," headquarters committee chairman Bob McKeen said.

Fellow Republican supporter Jerry Rowen said his sign promoting the John McCain-Sarah Palin candidacy suffered the same fate.

"They also did it across the street to a telephone box," he said Monday.

In addition to spray painting, McKeen has heard of about 50 campaign signs being stolen since Thursday. That includes a 4-foot by 8-foot billboard from the 2300 block of State Road 44 overnight Friday. But he isn't pointing fingers at his Democratic counterparts.

Clyde Walker, president of the Southeast Volusia Democratic Club, was equally disgusted with the vandalism and thefts.

"That is aberrant," he said. "This should not be part of the democratic process."

-- Mark I. Johnson

"You know, he was white and McCain is white-ish, actually kinda yellow-ish, but you understand."

Ol' Lipzzie is really wound up over this race/color thing, aintcha, boy. We conservatives are racist because we won't vote for The One...right. On the other hand, I bet you wouldn't vote for Justice Thomas or Michael Steele if either one was running for office....you RACIST PRICK.

At the end of the debate, will Ifill have us all join her with the new sing-along in our little kid voices. "Obama's gonna wead the world....oh....Yes we can..yes we can....oh...yes we can...."?

When Palin can't answer even the most soft-ball of questions, it will be time to blame the moderator.

A built-in excuse.

Malkin is not the only one talking about this, Rcade. Look on Drudge Report or google Moderater for VP Debate Gwen Ifill. Its all over the place.

I know. The media storm began with Malkin and the right-wing has gone nuts with it this morning.

ifill's broken her leg or ankle today...wonder if she'll still moderate?

rcade - no more nutz than the left would be going if it found someone like sean hannity were moderating the debate...

hahahaha, republicans just learning today what the politics of the moderator are!

are you stupid or just plain old incompetent?

repubs and dems approved moderators.

why are righties such whiny pussies?

"republicans just learning today what the politics of the moderator are! "

Although a Fox News piece featured Ifill's upcoming book weeks before the moderators were announced.

" stupid or just plain old incompetent?"

Maybe both.

This kerfuffle is just part of an attempt to get Gwen Ifill to go easy on Sarah "Pathetic" Plain.

"no more nutz than the left would be going if it found someone like sean hannity were moderating the debate"

That would be a non-starter, as you well know.
The campaigns signed off on the moderators.
So now that McCain-Palin is tanking it's time to "suspend" the moderator?

btw

last week mccain tried to run from the debate and didnt

this week they are trying to get rid of the moderator over a trump up outrage.

and will fail

why are righties such whiny pussies?

Un-Truth,

What are our options? NBC? CBS and Couric? ABC? MSNBC and Olberman? Someone from the NY TIMES?

The problem is we see how biased everything is...and you know they are biased...but you believe everything that they put out! You just tow the party line. Does that make you feel good that you cannot think for yourself. Do you think that is the way to "truth"? They laugh at Palin and make fun of her, but Biden asks a parapalegic to "stand up" and says how FDR "Went on TV" and nothing is said about it. Obama goes into the meeting on Friday when they are discussing the deal and blows up the meeting - and then runs away...but the spin misters try to pin it on McCain...and off course you believe them.

You wouldn't know the "truth" if it hit you in the ass.

#125 | Posted by foshaffer

The paranoid style in American politics, alive and well.

holy obfuscation batman!

this thread is about the SO CALLED AGE OF OBAMA BOOK

we are discussing that book, that issue.

the book is not about obama except so much as he reflects the change in american politics.

it is not a puff piece about obama.

and again

the republicans approved her, why the whining at the last minute?

"why are righties such whiny pussies?"

Because their paranoid vision of the world demands that they play the victim card every chance they get.

I would like to say that I read yesterday that Tom Brokaw has been quite involved with the McCain campaign. As he has been chosen, and according to reports on another site, the McCain would only accept Brokaw as a moderator. So, if they are not willing to accept Gwen Ifill then perhaps there should be an outcry that Tom Brokaw should not be the moderator of the McCain/Obama debate. Several people have sent emails to NBC asking he not be involved with this debate as he has issues with other members of NBC and MSNBC. Specially Olbermann and Matthews. He got his way according to the report yesterday. But if he is so involved with the McCain campaign that should be an issue for this country.

What are our options?

the formation of a bipartisan committee to select debate formats and moderators, agreed on aforehand.

which was done.

why not question the debate format, which will have an equal impact on the debate as the moderator.

ie short answers, no interplay between the candidates.

both these things clearly favor palin.

but you dont hear dems whining.

cause BOTH SIDES AGREED>

btw I have a problem with Ifill cause she did a HORRIBLE job at the VP debate in 2004. HORRIBLE.

the questions she asked were just plain awful.

The media storm began with Malkin and the right-wing has gone nuts with it this morning.

As they should.

As it is, the MSM has already abandoned any pretense of objectivity during this election.

That is bad enough.

But to have a moderator who is so in-the-tank for one party where her financial livelihood (likely more of her books sell if Obama wins, given the content of her book) is on-the-line???

McCain and Palin need to come out swinging during the remaining debates. It's the ONLY chance they have to convey their message without the tremendous bias of media filters.

and we are supposed to believe that she will now be objective and fair? yeah sure

and how about those little songs the kids are singing about obama
all PRODUCED BY A HEAD OF NBC.

and how many liberal fucks want to tell me now that the media isnt in the tank for obama???????????

McCain camp neds to cancel this debate until impartial moderators can be found.

"McCain camp neds to cancel this debate until impartial moderators can be found."

And his promise will be about as empty as his promise to suspend his campaign until the bailout deal was completed. They've already had one word-eating moment regarding the debates; I doubt they want another.

BTW, where was your bitching about Brokaw?

BL2, that is a proven falsehood.

"BL2, that is a proven falsehood."

That's never stopped him before.

bullshit

have you heard the little songs sung for obama
sounds just like the signing for the guy from north korea and if you really put your ear to it you can almost hear the brown shirted youths singing in the late 30's........

and those songs WERE PRODUCED BY a high ranking member of nbc...............

and several other hollywood elites........

and I will let this go about this biased moderator ig they let HANNITY AND RUSH do the last one.

hey.....fair's fair isnt it??????????

or how about if I get some little kids to sing
all about how obama doenst like for little kids who had a botched abortion to LIVE............that would make your head explode.....but THIS SHIT is okay.............more liberal jibberish

and OH YEAH

think back to the SCREAMING AND WHINING when bush brings families into an issue or shit like that.
you all called him all sorts of names and HERE LEFT WING MEDIA are using little children in the same way they are used in north korea.

thier parents should be ASHAMED..........

why are righties such whiny bastards?

Bullshitlover27%

REPUBLICANS AGREED ON IFFIL

KNOWING SHE WAS WRITING THE BOOK

why are you such a whiny bitch?

no complaints about Brokaw

no complaints about a format that favors Palin

just whining.

whhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Since the majority of people in the media are liberals, it isn't a big shocker to me that the person moderating this debate is - brace yourself - a liberal. I assume that any debate on a mainstream network is being moderated by a liberal until they prove otherwise. Usually they don't.

amd ONE MORE PROOF OF MY POINT

its almost a miracle when a conservative is elected because they have to beat their opponent AND THE MEDIA.........

again ,,,just this morning.....today show, good morning america and cnn..........all talked about NO ONE BUT REPUBLICANS who voted no and NOT ONE FUCKIN WORD ABOUT THE DEMS Who voted no......

when all they needed was 12 votes and EVEN FRANK ON HIS OWN committee had 12 dems who voted no......

and while this might not be all on topic, it sort of it.

the media is in the tank for obama, pure and simple

truth........that is a question that I wonder about.

"Obama's gonna weed the world....oh....Yes we can..yes we can....oh...yes we can...."

Actually, a flaming lib being the moderator and trying to swing the debate toward their preferred candidate would be a gift to McCain's campaign. If people think that the media is out to get him or Palin, then they'll sympathize with them.

So either she's going to be biased and it'll be a boost to McCain's/Palin's campaign, or she'll be fair and all the whining will have been for nothing.

I just heard on the radio something interesting.

a question

will all this hullabaloo make her lean more towards mccain?
will it change any questions she will ask?

or will she just not give a shit about how it looks........( my words)..........