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Saturday, September 27, 2008

Somalia's notorious pirates staged perhaps their most brazen attack yet, seizing a Ukrainian ship carrying dozens of heavy tanks Thursday night about 200 miles off the coast of Somalia, and it is feared that the heavy weapons could fall into the hands of insurgents who are wreaking havoc on a country teetering on the brink of a humanitarian catastrophe.

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Dozens of ships, mainly merchant vessels, have been seized by gangs off Somalia's 3,700-kilometre (2,300-mile) coastline in recent years, despite the presence of Western navies deployed in the region to fight terrorism.

The pirates travel in speedboats and are armed with automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades. They sometimes hold ships for weeks until they are released for large ransoms paid by governments or owners.

In recent months, a multinational taskforce based in Djibouti has been patrolling parts of the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea, where a pirate mothership is believed to be operating.

French naval commandos have taken action against pirates who seized two sailing vessels with French citizens aboard and arrested a dozen suspects.

They were brought to France and are awaiting trial on charges of hijacking, hostage-taking and armed robbery, which carry life sentences.

Some pirates have justified their actions by claiming that, in the absence of a functional central authority in Somalia, they were battling illegal fishing and toxic waste dumping by foreign countries.

Somalia has been without an effective central authority since the 1991 ouster of president Mohamed Siad Barre set off a deadly power struggle that has defied more than a dozen peace initiatives.

The Soviet-era T-72 was a frontline tank in Warsaw Pact states and is still in service in more than 30 countries. www.geocities.com

Somalia is an excellent example of a pure free market economy. How much for a used T-34?

"he pirates travel in speedboats and are armed with automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades."


And the ship was armed with what spitwads?

Shouldn't Russian military weapons "tanks" be transported by Russian navy?
An unarmed merchant ship is carrying military hardware?
Something is wrong with this story....

Hey, the guy from the Kenyan government says they were insured. So what the hell.

Nuts! And Condi wants Ukraine in NATO???

T&C,
What does one have to do with the other?


You'd think that Russia (or whomever has had goods hijacked) would use this as a live fire training excersize for their SpecOps teams.

Shouldn't Russian military weapons "tanks" be transported by Russian navy?
An unarmed merchant ship is carrying military hardware?
Something is wrong with this story....

First, it's Ukrainian equipment (Russian design). Second, do you think the US Navy transports US Army tanks? No the Merchant Marine does.

Third, where were the tanks going? Were they being sold to a third party?

101 good call: the implication is that the Ukrainians aren't all that reliable. How can they be transporting military equipment past pirated waters without escort or any means of defense. Some help thay would give to NATO.

Gotcha.

I happen to know of a guy that was on a transport ship carrying stingers. He was on there with the rest of his SF team.
When some pirates started to attack the ship they took some stingers out of the box and fired up the speedboats.
I asked how he knew how to use a stinger. He reminded me that stingers, like most every piece of equipment the military uses comes with directions printed right on the weapon itself (LAW's and AT-4's for example).

captain Jack should have waited a bit. Then he could have captured some Abrams tanks from the Ukes.

And Jeff-most of the stuff, including bombs shipped in Gulf1 and Gulf 2 went by private carriers.

ARRRRRRRRRRRRR!

I thought we took 30 TANKARDS.

More seriously, it's sobering to realize how much (and how obtainable) munitions are!

Now if they could only afford to fuel them.

so... illegal russian arms to be sold to warlords are stolen by pirates and russia sends the navy to stop this treachery..

hilarious


Somalia is an excellent example of a pure free market economy.

#3 | Posted by Zatoichi


Actually, no. It's run by war lords. Kindof like here.

Now if they could only afford to fuel them.

There be an oiler by sooner or later....

Latest news story on the Somali pirates. www.nytimes.com

Pirates Seek $35 Million for Ship
NAIROBI, Kenya Somali pirates in a hijacked ship carrying more than 30 battle tanks were steaming toward a notorious pirate den on Saturday, and they vowed not to release the ship until a $35 million ransom was paid, Somali and Kenyan officials said.
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According to Mohamed Osman Aden, a Somali diplomat in Kenya, the Ukrainian-owned vessel was headed to Xarardheere, on the barren Somali coast. Xarardheere is an isolated fishing village that has thrived on organized crime and has frequently been used as a pirate hide-out.

Mr. Mohamed said that while the cargo in this case was extremely unusual 33 Soviet-designed T-72 tanks and a large supply of ammunition and grenade launchers, all intended for the Kenyan military the tactics were pretty typical.

"These guys just want the money," he said.

He predicted that the pirates would reduce their ransom demand to $1 million to $2 million, though Ukrainian officials have not said whether they will pay any ransom at all.

The Kenyan government said in a statement on Saturday that it "does not and will not negotiate with international criminals, pirates and terrorists and will endeavor to recover the hijacked ship and military cargo."

Update on this story.

www.latimes.com

NAIROBI, KENYA -- A U.S. destroyer and a Russian warship headed Saturday for a possible confrontation with pirates who hijacked a cargo ship off the Somali coast loaded with battle tanks, machine guns and a crew of 21.

Despite being pursued by ships from two of the world's biggest naval powers, the pirates showed no sign of surrendering the Ukrainian vessel Faina, which they boarded Thursday as it headed to Kenya. Instead, unconfirmed reports said they were demanding a $35 million ransom to turn over their unconventional booty that includes 33 Russian-built T-72 tanks.

A U.S. Destroyer and a Russian Warship?

That's kinda unprecedented aint it?

Be Well.

Now here's some bad guys just begging be on the receiving end of some All-American ordinance--yet we blow $30 mil a day saving face and lord knows what else in Iraq. And after doing some (granted) brief digging, I could't seem to find much real info on any US Navy assets specifically tasked to the problem. Anybody got any scuttlebutt on this?

DS -- Let's hope they can make it work. The Russkies really want those tanks back.

DS -- Let's hope they can make it work. The Russkies really want those tanks back.

~T&C

Agreed.

Fer pride points as well as all the rest of it.

Spud thinks the Ruskies will get their toys back w/o a payoff.

The Somalis are fucking morons.

They shoulda stuck to extorting cruise ships.

The Marquis De Queensbury rules don't translate well into Russian.

Still having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that we live in the 21 century and we have to take piracy seriously.

/Some people just take "Talk like a Pirate" day waaaaay too seriously.

Be Well.

Pirates. Dem tiefin' pirates.

More oddness re: this story.

Andrew Mwangura of the East African Seafarers' Assistance Program said on Sunday the Somali pirates claim to be in possession of confidential documents showing that the arms were actually destined for southern Sudan and not Kenya

news.xinhuanet.com

Not to Kenya but to Southern Sudan?

A'ight, wot up with that?

Also, according to the NYT there's already been a death among the hostages.

"They can't catch us like goats," said a man who said he was a spokesman for the pirates. "We will fight, and everyone here will die with us."

The man said he was speaking on a satellite phone from the bridge of the hijacked Ukrainian ship, and to prove it, he handed the phone to another man who said he was the captain. The captain, a Ukrainian, then told the BBC that a Russian crew member had died from hypertension.

www.nytimes.com

Getting ugly.

Be Well.

FF, Spud! "Marquis De Queensbury rules don't translate well into Russian.")

Btw, Can you claim superior (to Palin) foreign policy expertise because you're surrounded by Continental 49ers to the South, Alaskans to the West, and Yukoners to your North? (And if the Ruskies get by Palin's trade missions, fisheries patrols and AK National Guard, you'd have Ruskies, too!)

FF, Spud! "Marquis De Queensbury rules don't translate well into Russian."

~T&C

Thanx fer the FF and them kind words.

Anybody familiar with the history of violent "Russification" of the Ukraine over the last five or six decades can tell ya fer a fact that Russia doesn't give a flying fuck about the lives of those 20 (mostly Ukrainian) crew members.

But they do care about them tanks.

Can you claim superior (to Palin) foreign policy expertise because you're surrounded by Continental 49ers to the South, Alaskans to the West, and Yukoners to your North?

Yup, Spud can indeed claim to have superior foreign policy expertise (to Palin) based not only on those facts you state but also cos Spud actually actually owns a globe and read a book once.

Okay, it was just a Tom Clancy book but it still puts Spud up one on Scary Failin aka Biblespice.

Be Well.

/Spud is actually reading Herman Wouk's "The Hope" right now.
//Spud always thought "bopkess" meant "nothing"
///Apparently it's a Yiddish word meaning "goat shit"
////Reading is FUNdamental!

Spud -- back in the 1970s as I salied through the Panama Canal on a USN ship with a special guest who later ran for President, I was given my first tutorial in this distinguished man's experiences with and knowledge of modern piracy. It can be as casual as a kidnapping vacationers, or worse, on the high seas to much more daring and coordinated attacks againsr significantly harder targets.

It continues to get worse, Check out this link -- scroll 1/2 way doen for the data: www.cargolaw.com

Cheers!

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