Where is GZLives when you really need him?

If Obama's pastor had said this you would never hear the end of it.

So, if she comes out and says she can no more disown him than the white community - will you give her a pass like you did hussein? Just askin.

If this video proves true, she needs to make a statement condemning her pastor.

I don't know about the economy, but they certainly control the Copper Wire Markets.

it seems like a new rule is being enforced in the political arena.

In order to run for high office, you must attend a church with a "colorful" Pastor.

WTF!!!

Wonder what Lieberman might have to say about this.

Just askin'.....

wow what a great idea. Lets trade in our ethically challenged jew bankers for morally challenged christian bankers.

why hasn't someone thought of this before? oh wait, they did.

"If this video proves true, she needs to make a statement condemning her pastor."

If she's willing to throw her daughter under the bus, what's one more pastor?

I just watched a video of an African preacher exorcising Sarah's demons. herm

I just watched a video of an African preacher exorcising Sarah's demons. herm

#8 | Posted by herm

that's why she did so bad in the couric interview. all of her evil demons, where she draws her strength, were under suppression.

Nobody in the McCain campaign dug around in her past, did they? What were they? Drunk?

Before any Republicans bad mouth Obama, he won primaries.

Palin was sprung on us without any warning. McCain's people should've checked Palin out more thoroughly. What a disaster.

Direct link to YouTube video:

What will Liebermann have to say? He would have to unglue his lips from Grampy Poopy Pants' ass before he could make a comment and even then he would have to get the approval of the RNC, which probably means he would disavow being Jewish if that is what the RNC tells him to do.

Where is GZLives when you really need him?

His week to control the world economy..

It shows.

Sorry, GZ, couldn't resist. Shalom, babykin, shalom.

Seems like everybody has a "Rev. Wright" in their past.

Israelites?

This guys a moron the real culprits here are the crab people who live at the center of the Earth.

And they're Presbyterian.

Everybody knows that.

Nobody in the McCain campaign dug around in her past, did they? What were they? Drunk?

Desperate. They were pandering to the Christian zealot vote.

The preacher referenced the Israelites as an example of past and present people of faith in business... said nothing about the Jews running America. Nor did he say that Jews running businesses were bad.

Watch the video. Read the transcript. You may disagree with what he said, but what he was saying is nothing like how you're characterizing it by the headline and the posts above.

I can't wait for the VP debates.

Q: Gov Plain, what is your take on the recent economic crisis?

A: Well, my pastor told me it was the Jews fault!

McCain: Get Cheney on the phone, NOW! I want him to take her on a moose hunt! Tell him to bring the 'shotgun'....yes, THAT shotgun.

I can't wait for the VP debates.

Q: Gov Plain, what is your take on the recent economic crisis?

A: Well, my pastor told me it was the Jews fault!

McCain: Get Cheney on the phone, NOW! I want him to take her on a moose hunt! Tell him to bring the 'shotgun'....yes, THAT shotgun.

#18 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

lol...she likes Buchanan, too...they had to scrub Wekipedia of that sidenote:>)

"Q: Gov Plain, what is your take on the recent economic crisis?

A: Aflac!

OOHRAH

It was just a couple of weeks ago the story of another guest preacher at Palin's church called terrorism against Jews God's wrath for them crucifying Jesus.

OOHRAH

What the African minister in the video said was 'we need more Christian bankers' - among other things.

poll: Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?

They don't?

sincerely,
Chairpoodle 101

The Jews didn't crucify Jesus--the Romans crucified Jesus.

Like these Christian Bankers, AU?

House of Medici

AU-
Yes, we do need more Christians taking leadership roles in business, government and, most important (in my view) being good parents.

As to post #22, go back the pastor's talk. He didn't say Jews run America's finances. He spoke of Israelites past and present as examples of what he advocates - people of faith in leadership roles in banking, etc. The supposition - and as we both know this is far from the rule - is that people of faith aren't gonna screw people over.

That's a far cry from what I think the lib inference is... which is that the evil Jews must be banished from running America's finances and be replaced by Christians. I honestly don't see that, at all, in this pastor's talk.

corrected pbs palin vote poll?

BANI

I just finished a book about the Medici's. Interesting you brought them up.

OOHRAH

The only people I'd rather not run our banks are those who got us in this kind of mess.

Yes, we do need more Christians taking leadership roles in business, government

I guess 90% isn't enough for you?

and, most important (in my view) being good parents.

Just the Christians?

#27 | Posted by OohRah at 2008-09-26 06:50 PM | Reply

AU- As to your #21 post, I wasn't aware of that occuring. I've been traveling and for a couple weeks hadn't kept up with things. So I really can't comment on that.

Something I think bears mentioning... our church (and apparently Palin's as well) will occasionally have people other than the senior minister preach from the pulpit. In our church, at least, I've never heard teaching which is contradictory to Biblical teachings. These guest preachers don't preach politics or world events, so that helps keep them more Bible-based.

My point in reference to Palin's church (or my church) and Obama's is that Rev Wright was the senior minister. Obama got a steady dose of Rev Wright as the main preacher.

In my church if a guy happened to preach on something perhaps deemed controversial, that would be the exception vs the rule. Does my sitting through those one or two sermons carry the same meaning as a congregant listening to the main preacher (Wright) for nearly 20 years?

From "The Jerusalem Post"

Racism in the name of religion

There are moments when I find myself truly ashamed to be part of Israeli society. I had a moment like that recently as I stood outside the Supreme Court with women from Ahoti, a Sephardi feminist organization, waiting for a ruling on the religious girls' school in Emanuel where racism is so entrenched that parents will do all it takes to keep antiquated Jim Crow-like separations in place.

BANI

I just finished a book about the Medici's. Interesting you brought them up.

OOHRAH

The only people I'd rather not run our banks are those who got us in this kind of mess.

#29 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Actually in their future lives, their karma will lead them eventually to this anyway for they have the expertise to solve it as well.

I often felt my Catholic childhood friends, the Pohlad's (Carl owns the Twins) were part of the Medici networks in past lives...:>)

OOHRAH

Out of 20 years of video they came up with 12 minutes of what could be considered inflammatory remarks by Rev. Wright. You can rest assured they looked and looked for THOSE.

So, to suppose Obama sat through that for 20 years is ridiculous.

I watched several hours of Wright at Trinity Church's YouTube website. Having grown up in an evangelical church I'd have to say he was pretty tame compared to my preacher who said all Jews and Catholics were going straight to hell. Well, everyone but us.

I meant 12 seconds of Rev. Wright. And half of those were quoting Ambassador Anthony Peck on FOXNEWS.

...and, most important (in my view) being good parents.

Just the Christians? " - BUFF

Not in the way you're implying with your question. In my view Christians (men in particular) need to walk the talk... they need to be faithful, God loving examples for their family rather than abdicating their role by giving in to selfish greed, lust, etc. In other words - be a man and be accountable.

As for being an accountable parent, that goes for all parents, not just Christians. I'm saying that those who call themselves Christians ought to do a better job of walking the talk.

12 seconds = 12 disciples of JC! lol

Not in the way you're implying with your question. In my view Christians (men in particular) need to walk the talk... they need to be faithful, God loving examples for their family rather than abdicating their role by giving in to selfish greed, lust, etc. In other words - be a man and be accountable.

As for being an accountable parent, that goes for all parents, not just Christians. I'm saying that those who call themselves Christians ought to do a better job of walking the talk.

Posted by OohRah at 2008-09-26 07:18 PM | Reply

Seems to Me Obama is Your Man then cause He has never walked out on His First Wife to find a younger Prettier more well off Second. Seems to Me Obama is the one who has the moral compass that You seek in a person than John McCain. So are You going to vote for the Man?? Or are You going to vote for the shmuck??

Larry

"need to walk the talk"

I would like to take a moment here to help Palin defend her church choice of pastor in 12 seconds or less...

The Rise of the Jewish Empire: The Jewish Conquest of America
By: atheo on: 10.04.2008 [00:44 ] (18601 reads)

"I watched several hours of Wright at Trinity Church's YouTube website." - AU

I haven't. My only comment would be that I highly doubt you'd see something very controversial in that site. Would you agree?

I will certainly grant you that Wright wasn't a constant "God damn America" for 20 years. I have no idea what else he might or might not have said, yet he is certainly a cat of a different breed. For someone to imply he's a benign sort who had maybe one or two off the wall eruptions (those we've seen on YouTube) is also mistaken in my view.

ZAT-
OUCH!!!!

"... So are You going to vote for the Man?? Or are You going to vote for the shmuck??" - LAR

I'm voting McCain. If God can forgive us of our sins can't we do the same or are we to hold that against someone forever? Serious question.

In fairness, if his affair was fresh news (Edwards) then I think we'd all probably have a different take on whether we wanted him in the Oval Orafice.

If you really want to go down that path how do you square the horn dog Clinton with those chick magnates Bush & Dole? I don't think either of those two Reps had a harem on the side, though I think Dole could probably now service the Rockettes with his Viagra.

Would OORAH vote for McCain if he was black?...lol

OOHRAH

I honestly watched Wright's sermons to inform myself. It was all new to me then as well as everyone else.

Wright is mostly soft spoken and professorial in his sermons. He does raise his voice like any good Baptist preacher does when he wants to make a point, but I didn't see any inflammatory remarks whatsoever. In context, some of the remarks FOX ran infinitum made sense to me. Of course, they only aired the couple of seconds their viewers would get all in a huff about.

But, again, he seemed pretty tame to me - especially after the hundreds of sermons I sat through in the church I grew up in. I'm surprised the pulpit at my childhood church didn't have holes on top from all the incredibly hard pounding it took as our preacher screamed. Wright looked like an Episcopal minister in comparison to mine.

You're welcome to surf through their Wright sermons if you choose to. There were a hundred back then. New minister now, so not sure how many Wright sermons left, but check it out for yourself. Here's the link:

I'm voting McCain. If God can forgive us of our sins can't we do the same or are we to hold that against someone forever? Serious question.

In fairness, if his affair was fresh news (Edwards) then I think we'd all probably have a different take on whether we wanted him in the Oval Orafice.

If you really want to go down that path how do you square the horn dog Clinton with those chick magnates Bush & Dole? I don't think either of those two Reps had a harem on the side, though I think Dole could probably now service the Rockettes with his Viagra.

#43 | Posted by OohRah at 2008-09-26 07:32 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
e

So You declare You forgive John McCain yet bring up Bill Clinton's Horn Doggishness. Seems to Me as long as their is an R behind their name they could be satan worshippers and You would still support them over a Democrat.

Larry

"chick magnates(sic)"

"So You declare You forgive John McCain yet bring up Bill Clinton's Horn Doggishness. Seems to Me as long as their is an R behind their name they could be satan worshippers and You would still support them over a Democrat." - LAR

Nice try, LAR. YOU were the one condemning McCain... so I called into question your consistency by asking you about whether you applied the same standard to Clinton that you, apparently, are applying to McCain.

To the larger point of forgiveness, it is one thing to forgive someone... it's entirely another one to be foolish. Example: a crazed man rapes and kills your wife. You forgive him. He eventually gets out of prison. But you don't then invite him over to meet your new wife and leave the house with the two of them alone and a fridge full of beer and some knives out on the kitchen counter.

Or, someone rips you off in business. You forgive him, but that doesn't mean you go out and loan the guy your life's savings.

"Would OORAH vote for McCain if he was black?...lol" - BANI

The 'lol' tells me it's a joke. So in that light I'd can say I don't judge a man by his skin color - I judge him by the width of his nostrils.

(An old Chevy Chase line from SNL)

In all seriousness, I would vote for a black person if they were conservative. I would not use their blackness as a reason to vote for them if they weren't conservative. Would I want Alan Keyes as president - no. Conservative - not unlike Huckabee, but no thanks.

I've learn to forgive all those who voted for GW twice (& even just once), so I will forgive you for voting for the insane, OORAH...even though you know better...

ego issues?:>)

OOHRAH

If you wanted John McCain for President, he disappeared some years ago. His body has been taken over by a body snatcher who's the polar opposite of the John McCain of 2000.

"I've learn to forgive all those who voted for GW twice (& even just once), so I will forgive you for voting for the insane, OORAH...even though you know better..." - BANI

That's mighty white of you, BANI. :^0

"If you wanted John McCain for President, he disappeared some years ago. His body has been taken over by a body snatcher who's the polar opposite of the John McCain of 2000." - AU

McCain never was my top choice, neither now nor in 2000. Many conservatives have reservations about him. Palin's selection has helped ease that a bit, perhaps enough to get him elected. But again, he's not my top choice. He does represent perhaps the lesser of two evils.

"He does represent perhaps the lesser of two evils."

yeah, a democrat majority in both houses & Presidency is nothing to cheer about...

pork bellies futures will soar:>)

OOHRAH

I think you left off 'Social' before "Conservative".

You're not voting for a 'conservative'. You want to vote for a 'social conservative'. Abortion, gay marriage, et al

I get it.

Christian piety? Or foolish notions about the nature of Soul...

"So, if she comes out and says she can no more disown him than the white community - will you give her a pass like you did hussein? Just askin."

YEAH!

Ssys the Mouth that Condem "hussein"for the antics of a minister!

You first!

"You're not voting for a 'conservative'. You want to vote for a 'social conservative'. Abortion, gay marriage, et al" - AU

If I was as you suggest I would have voted for Huckabee. I didn't.

Yes, I'm very much a social conservative. I'm also a fiscal conservative and a strong national defense guy.

To me it's more than a single issue (abortion). As I've earlier indicated I'm more interested in fiscal and national defense issues.

In a perfect world I'd like to have it all - which would include a strong social conservative. Palin helps in that regard.

" I would vote for a black person if they were conservative. I would not use their blackness as a reason to vote for them if they weren't conservative. Would I want Alan Keyes as president - no. Conservative - not unlike Huckabee, but no thanks."

THEY? Singular antecedent, plural pronoun? So Ooey has SOME scruples. SOME basic minimums. If not Keyes, there are Clarence Thomas, Uncle Tom Sowells and Ward Connerly, perhaps the No. 1 anti-black black of 'em all. A former Oklahoma quarterback named Watt was in Congress. But probably not conservative enough. herm

Am not sure he said anything about Jews. Just like the silly liberals were trying to insinuate Todd was doing his daughters, someone is trying to inject Jews into this pastor's message which is nonexistent.

The fact is that Sarah received prayer from an anointed paster and went on to become Governor. It worked.

So Sarah should not try to run away from this incident.

*****************************

It is shameful how ungrateful and ignorant (of American history) liberals are trying to shame Christians --- when in fact this nation's blessing is brought by the prayers and activities of sterling men and women of God.

The prayer worked! Sarah become Governor --- never forget that. I would urge the same pastor to continue praying for Sarah, and hopefully he will be invited to the Presidential Prayer breakfast next year!

The prayer worked! Sarah become Governor --- never forget that.

That lead to her being chosen as McCain's VP.

Thank God.

Amen! Her selection stunted Obama's bounce and lifted McCain on competetive level.

Besides, if Jews turned against her because of her Christian faith, then those are the ungrateful Jews --- because it is the Christians in America who have been the best friends and supporter of Israel. And their pilgrimage to the Holy Land year in and year out boosts the economy of Israel.

Hi there. I stumbled upon you on another blog regarding the Palin pastor witch hunt subject. I saw that you stated something about having original transcripts from a Salem witch trial. Is this something that is accessible for public to get? I would love to read them.

The prayer worked! Sarah become Governor --- never forget that. I would urge the same pastor to continue praying for Sarah, and hopefully he will be invited to the Presidential Prayer breakfast next year!

#61 | Posted by takitez

amen, brother...

Giuliani sets up firm to cash in on Wall Street's train wreck,' then joins McCain for tonight's debate.

Rudy Giuliani flew to Memphis this afternoon with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), on the way to tonight's presidential debate. Giuliani "is positioning his law firm to cash in on Wall Street's train wreck," according to the New York Daily News. The former mayor announced yesterday that his firm, Bracewell & Giuliani, would set up a task force "to help corporate clients get a piece of the action or keep federal wolves from the door," as the Daily News put it.

"THEY? Singular antecedent, plural pronoun?" - HERM

I could have used the tired 'he or she.' Condi Rice, for example, might one day decide to run for office.

There are more conservative black males than those you cite. Apparently you view conservative blacks as Uncle Toms. Why is that? Isn't it possible for one to be conservative (fiscal and/or social) and be black... or any other minority? Sure it is. It may never be commonplace given where each party's platforms stand right now, but they do exist and I would support them based on their views & voting record and not their race.

Sounds like the average American Grandpa..

"..And then we should bomb the Middle East back into the Stone Age....hey, you kids get off my lawn!"

Pastor Told Palin's Church Jews Control Economy

Uh, guess what folks:

Paster Told Obama's Church Jews Control Economy!

LOL!!! you morons. This constant Palin bashing is just too funny.

So the same people trying to demonize Obama for his paster are now defending Palin for the same behavior? That, my friends, is rather sad.

Keep in mind that this fits a pattern with Palin - ties to Alaskan separatists/extremists, Creationists and sheer ignorance about anything that a potential president needs to know.

"I could have used the tired 'he or she.' Condi Rice, for example, might one day decide to run for office."

Aah, Condi! You might vote for THEM, eh, Ooey?

"There are more conservative black males than those you cite."

NAME FOUR MORE.

"Apparently you view conservative blacks as Uncle Toms. Why is that?"

Because they tend to push their own people under the bus. Cannibals?

"Isn't it possible for one to be conservative (fiscal and/or social) and black?"

Really, Ooey, it's unlikely to be that ... and honest with one's self. herm

All religious beliefs sour the minds of intelligent people...one of the requirements of running for president should be atheism .

All religious beliefs sour the minds of intelligent people...one of the requirements of running for president should be atheism .

#71 | Posted by jubal_harshaw

Amen brother.

he should get together with obamas ex visiting
priest.

I think Palin is perfectly qualified to run the country on the Republican ticket.... Republicans have very low expectations. Abraham Lincoln was the pinnacle of their success and its been downhill since then.

Condi Rice run for office!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
HHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAH
AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH gasp HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

having an oil tanker named after her is sufficient thank you... she took a sail on it one summer and when she disembarked it registered a quart low.

Palin quoted a SELF PROFFESSED RACIST AND ANTI SEMITE in her acceptance speech at the RNC!

the guy refered to jews as quack quacks.

The Right Wing Media hordes would have a field if there was a video of Senator Obama in a church ceremony where a KENYAN pastor was praying to rid him of evil witches. O'Rielly would have no time on his show for anything else, we would be hearing this until election night!!!!!

Or if Michelle Obama had belonged to a Seperatist state movement for 7 years, as Mr. Palin did before leaving as his wife became Governor. Sean Hannity would have an Orgasim on the air if this were true.

What do you Fuck on the Right think Russ Limbaugh would say if it were Senator Obama's daughter that was pregnant. Do you really think that it would be just a family problem, I THINK NOT!!!

YOU REPUBLICANS MAKE ME WANT TO PUKE, fucking hyprocrits.....

HERM-
Ken Blackwell from my former home state of Ohio... Micheal Steele of Maryland... Colin Powell... Lynn Swann of PA... Alan Keyes of IL... and there are more.

By the way, for some comic relief did you know Don King and Jimmie "Dyno-mite" Walker are conservatives?

When you say they throw their own people under the bus what do you mean? - especially by "their own people." If calling attention to the poor choices blacks make is tossing them under the bus, then you can include Obama, Bill Cosby and plenty of pols of all stripes in that group. They speak the truth - the politically incorrect truth, but truth nevertheless. And poor choices aren't limited to blacks. But for this debate we'll stick with blacks' choices.

Would you feel more "comfortable" if black candidates told other blacks they ought to remain with an entitlement mentality and continue the decimation of the black family? I hope not.

Democrats and their well-intended policies have helped create a huge entitlement mindset where the government has replaced the father figure as provider in too many families. Yet, blacks continue to vote in virtual lock step for Dems.

I'd think that after a good 40+ years blacks might look at their overall situation and second guess whether siding with Dems has been the winning horse.

People like those I'd named (though maybe not Powell) don't subscribe to such a mindset. Success, accountability, etc... is available to all and government's role is to be limited.

Set asides, quotas, affirmative action, etc... to use your words - those things, if one is honest with oneself, tarnish black achievement by conveying a message that they weren't good enough to succeed without help from the government. So a mature black comes around and advocates removing those artificial factors to let all people compete on their own merits. Is that wrong? Is that throwing people under the bus? Sounds like advocating equality of opportunity to me - success is never guaranteed.

It'd be like you and me in a hoops game of 21. But since you're supposedly better, you spot me 10 points. I get to 21 first so I beat you, but did I really beat you?

"As I've earlier indicated I'm more interested in fiscal and national defense issues."

I thought you supported Bush.

I did and do, to an extent today... though Dubya's dropped the ball in a number of areas. I've discussed it before, but briefly: immigration, spending, and parts of the war on terror. No one's perfect and I'm glad Kerry or Gore didn't get in, but I'm far from 100% pleased with Bush. I think we're all ready for a new POTUS.

Ooey, if only we cold solve the Bush-build woes of this nation with a game of hoops!

Colin Powell is no black conservative. He is a gray middle of the roader, about like O'Bama. I knew Lynn Swann of the Steelers wanted to go into politics, but have not heard him announce any idiocies. Alan Keyes I mentioned; he is utterly insane. If the Illinois GOP had fielded a sane candidate against O'Bama, who knows what would have happened in the 2008 election?

As for doing away with social programs and letting black folks - folks of ANY hue - make it strictly on their own, that's the McBush mentality that would take us back to the 15th century. herm

Sandra Bernhard on Sarah Palin:

WARNING: Extreme profanity, as in EXTREME profanity.
DO NOT click if you are offended by foul language.