Ain't that just peachy. Why he's been planning to do a bail out for months. I'll just bet that all of the people that this comes to late for are just cheering him on.

Always wait until disaster is at hand then way to late to do much more than cost the citizens of this country a massive cost overrun, that some say won't work, bail out. I thought that the President has knowledgeable help to cure thing before they cause horrendous harm to so many people.

Way to go Shrubbie. Just another way to kill the economy. We who are about to go under, salute you.

Planned for months, but pass it over the weekend.

If the bailout has been planned for months, what was being done when the bailout was being planned months ago.

Not to mention, why were you planning a bailout when you were saying this?

"Our policy in this administration -- laws shouldn't bail out lenders, laws shouldn't help speculators."

-- President Bush, May 19, 2008

Planned it for years, probably. Indeed, the Rovian master scheme probably was to bleed the country dry first and then vaccum up the remnants by borrowing hundreds of billions from our grandchildren to finance those golden parachutes. herm

*** White House: We've Planned Bailout for Months ***

.......they've been making space in their secret accounts in Monaco, Switzerland, Grand Cayman for the loot........

........its not easy stashing 700B out of sight....

you libs need to get educated. bush has tried 12 times since 2000 to get the senate to do something, mccain tried in 2005,

***** you libs need to get educated. bush has tried 12 times since 2000 to get the senate to do something, mccain tried in 2005,
..... Posted by Maverick *****

......Bush had a Republican majority for six years that rubberstamped his every whim....

......so how come he fucked up ?...and if he could'nt do it in six years, then what's the rush now ?.......

........and it was McCain's "advisor" Phil Gramm who slipped the deregulation amendments allowing this mess into an omnibus bill........

......but in the end....the Repubs had six years where they could do whatever they wanted, and all they did was fuck up America.......

..........take responsibility.........

Yeah, who does that fucking Bush think he is planning ahead, the CIC?

Dodd for President!!!!

White House: We've Planned Bailout for Months

And yet they roll it out sticking a gun to Congress' head at the last minute. How irresponsible!!

@#2 Planned for months, but pass it over the weekend.

Really... this absolutely reeks of foul play.

Perhaps they were hoping like the patriot act they could scare everyone into voting for it before they read it..

Bush / Paulson bailout plan Section 8:
Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.

Bastards think they can litigate protection for themselves so they can fleece the American taxpayer for $700 Billion and bailout their big banker friends.

White House: We've Planned Bailout for Months

And yet they roll it out sticking a gun to Congress' head at the last minute. How irresponsible!!

#13 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

How naive! You really think that Congress did not see this coming?

You probably think that you are smart/experienced enough to serve in Congress and you expect them to think like you.

In everyone's rush to point fingers in this whole preventable mess... given that Dems control Congress if there were any Reps responsible for this, don't you think they'd have been hauled in for hearings a week or two ago? That they haven't been is rather telling, IMO.

If this goes through.. sound economic advice would be to invest in pitchfork and torch manufactures, the people are clearly against this.

And yet they roll it out sticking a gun to Congress' head at the last minute. How irresponsible!!

#13 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Boy, you stepped into this time. What do your hero's Pelosi and Reid do other than filling a fucking pork barrel?

Ya, whatever you say WISGOD - which isn't anything.

Obama and Hillary Clinton warned about this 2 years ago

Explain why the WH didn't run this bailout plan by Congress months ago instead of a week before Congress was due to adjourn. I can tell you: They wanted to hold a gun to Congress' head and rush something through.

"Looming Wall Street Credit Swap Derivatives Clouds".

Ya, whatever you say WISGOD - which isn't anything.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Stick with your childish attacks of Palin, which everyone ignores, hypocrite. It's alway's a great indicator that KOS can't help you with your stupidity.

WISGOD

Palin was a totally irresponsible pick. McCain's too old and out of touch.

I haven't even been to KOS today ... moron

Your stalking and is really creepy

WISGOD

Your stalking is really creepy

White House: We've Planned Bailout for Months

Finally! A sensible explanation of why the whole plan sucks so much.

Cheap shot taken care of, this makes no sense whatsoever. If you plan for something, even with varying contingencies and options, you don't scramble like they have. You also don't bend so easily on core issues. The whole thing stinks, and when something this administration does stinks, you know the root purpose isn't governance, it's building the GOP (or destroying the Democrats, which, sadly, they see as the same thing).

Well, you don't market a new program in the summer.

- Donald Rumsfeld

WISGOD

Your stalking is really creepy

#22 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Then stop being a 2 year old ass, or buy the site.

And redundant posts aren't going to change a thing.

WISGOD

You're a creepy troll stalker

KATIE COURIC: And, Bob, I understand that John McCain actually floated an alternative plan. What can you tell us about that?

BOB ORR We're told at the White House Senator McCain offered an alternative plan that would include fewer regulations and more corporate tax breaks for businesses, kind of a private solution. But we're also told those ideas angered and surprised Democrats like banking chairman Chris Dodd who now says he thinks the White House summit was more of a political stunt for McCain.

Oh, ya. That'll fix it.

You're a creepy troll stalker

#26 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

I'm sure most people are in your little world who call you out for the bullshitter you are. But I'm sure you treat your wife better. Or is she ugly like Sarah, 2 year old in an old man's body?

Wa-Mu has been taken over by the feds. The insured deposits are about $110 billion.
The bailout appears on its last breath.
McCain pitched an alternative plan while at the white house (prison 1) that would further deregulate the financial services and would let wall st. wheel and deal its way out without oversight.

Palin still looks like a man in drag.

Wonderful day!

...but they haven't said anything until now and we have until Friday to make up our minds, or when the second Great Depression comes it will be the Democrats fault.

And get this, the Democrats are ready to play ball, I mean they wouldn't want to be the cause of another Great Depression and all. What a load of shit.

One radio announcer claims that if the Government paid off every Mortgage in default or on the verge, it would cost $200 billion. If true this begs the question, what are these fuckers doing with the other $500 billion? Oh I know, making good on all their derivative bets and the arranging thousands of golden parachutes.

This is not about saving the economy, this is about saving Paulson's partners in crime. Paulson is trying to prop up Real Estate prices just long enough to leave town. Real Estate prices are headed towards an eqilibrium with real incomes. Once that day arrives we can either be $700 billion richer or poorer. Paulson's buddies want to get out of this market without suffering any loses, sticking it to the taxper instead.

...but they haven't said anything until now and we have until Friday to make up our minds, or when the second Great Depression comes it will be the Democrats fault.

And get this, the Democrats are ready to play ball, I mean they wouldn't want to be the cause of another Great Depression and all. What a load of shit.

One radio announcer claims that if the Government paid off every Mortgage in default or on the verge, it would cost $200 billion. If true this begs the question, what are these fuckers doing with the other $500 billion? Oh I know, making good on all their derivative bets and the arranging thousands of golden parachutes.

This is not about saving the economy, this is about saving Paulson's partners in crime. Paulson is trying to prop up Real Estate prices just long enough to leave town. Real Estate prices are headed towards an eqilibrium with real incomes. Once that day arrives we can either be $700 billion richer or poorer. Paulson's buddies want to get out of this market without suffering any loses, sticking it to the taxper instead.

WISGOD

You're a creepy troll stalker.

WTF set you off boy?

WTF set you off boy?

#32 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

The fact that you can't admit you are ever wrong chump. Palin's Special needs funding that you ran like a little girl from comes to mind. But I certainly understand this isn't the KOS lovefest or the Holiday Inn piano bar, and you can't take a challenge. I'm sure the walls in your house alway's agree with you, Pop's.

Riggghhhhttt.. then why does the plan suck.

WISGOD

I could really give a flying f**k what you think.

I like DailyKos. It's not idiots like you trolling every two minutes trying to be the big guy. In fact, rarely do posters comment to each other, but about the topic at hand. Something you're absolutely horrible at.

Futures are falling off a cliff again.

Wall St. is going to have a melt-down tomorrow.
If it isnt in your pocket, it isnt safe.

Yeah, who does that fucking Bush think he is planning ahead, the CIC?

Well, as CIC he certainly never did that. Beyond printing the Mission Accomplished banner that is.

Paulson admitted today that House Republicans are intentionally sabotaging the bailout plan. Disgusting politics, plain and simple.

You think this is going to win an election? McCain's going to ride in and save the day? The fed's just nationalized WaMu while the GOP obstructred.

Reports are now that McCain's showing up and insisting on a White House meeting were what scuttled the talks.

AU- I just heard that on the news. Looks like the deal was almost done and McCain's political hail mary pass fucked it all up.

If I wrote this stuff as fiction no one could suspend their disbelief. This is insane.

I think wisgod just jumped from his 2 story office in lacrosse....

I like DailyKos. It's not idiots like you trolling every two minutes trying to be the big guy. In fact, rarely do posters comment to each other, but about the topic at hand. Something you're absolutely horrible at.

#35 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

But you can't admit when your wrong, right big man?
And that's a sure sign of of what you lack in life...honesty. Look around, I'm not the only troll you have to deal with. I suspect you've been dealing with people like me all your life. You've made your reputation with me, 101, rob. Pinche, Joe et. all. Troll is the best you can post? And the topic at hand? On a scale of 1 to 10 Palin is a what? What topic was that again on that thread, asshole?

I think wisgod just jumped from his 2 story office in lacrosse....

#41 | Posted by badgerwest

That's my winter home. Milwaukee and Rhinelader are now in season. Any other questions?

They planned this for months but suddenly this massive giveaway of your tax dollars (which can't be investigated nor questioned if Bush has his way) needs to be done before the debate?

Bullshit!

This bailout reminds of another massive tax-dollar giveaway under another Bush.

The Bush's: ready to drive the banking industry into the ground and then give your tax dollars away to cover them.

Just ask Neil Bush. Daddy held up the bank examiners just long enough for his other retarded son to wipe his fingerprints from anything in the Silverdao S&L. It paid well enough to buy two governorships for his turd spawn.

Deer season in Plainfield?

Alexandrite I heard on Foxnews tonight that McCain wants to kill it and then revive it so He can claim He was the Hero again that saved the day. Bunch of wankerly bullshit if You ask Me.

Larry

You've made your reputation with me, 101, rob. Pinche, Joe et. all

WISGOD

THAT'S supposed to upset me? BWAAAAAAAAA !!

PS You mentioned Palin for the first time on this thread, not me.

Bye bye creepy troll.....

Deer season in Plainfield?

#45 | Posted by badgerwest

No, grave robbing 101 classes.

Bye bye creepy troll.....

#47 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

No, I don't want to upset a creepy fuck like you. I hope youe wife follows suit, Pops.

repubtard=psycho--go back to chicago illgod

-go back to chicago illgod

#50 | Posted by badgerwest

I'm close Dave, don't make me come over...

Looks like somebody should have kept his mouth shut. I'll see you soon.

creepy indeed. i'll get out the whips and chains bruce.

They had it weeks before it got real bad, but they needed to gin up the fear to make congress vote for it. You know.. where Bush goes on TV and says "we are all going to die" if we don't give the big banks our tax dollars.

They worked on this for months and they best they could come up with is "Just give us $700 billion and remove all oversight...". And they didn't tell anyone about it until they could claim that it had to be rushed through.

How is that not worse?

The last and final fucking of America by Bush and Cheney on their way out of office.

George W, Bush..."Paraguay...Here I come!"

.....and Obama's band played on while the Titanic sinks.

Obama said : "Call me if you need me."

McCain knew exactly what to do. Country First!

McCain knew exactly what to do. Country First!

#57 | Posted by aclusux at 2008-09-26 08:44 AM | Reply

McCain...Country First!...Then he picked Sarah Palin for Vice President for her looks who doesn't know her asshole from her cunt.

COUNTRY FIRST !!!

Her husband seems to know the difference, Trueandblue.

McCain knew exactly what to do. Country First!

#57 | Posted by aclusux at

yeah cause the election of the POTUS is not important.

Then he picked Sarah Palin for Vice President for her looks who doesn't know her asshole from her cunt.

Posted by USATrueandBlue7

McCain didn't use the same vetting process as Obama.
I'm sure Joe Biden knows the difference.

No wonder the Repub candidates in WA state are avoiding the label "Republican", they're opting to ID themselves on the ballot as "GOP Party".

Planned for MONTHS? McBush knew this was in the pipeline and that our economy was on the verge of total meltdown and STILL CHOSE PALIN???? Oh my gosh... Just sitting here shaking my head. What can anyone say to this? We (the American people) are SO screwed....

White House: We've Planned Bailout for Months, but we never saw that 9-11 thingy going down... win some, ya lose some...

four more years!

How is that not worse?

#55 | Posted by Sully at 2008-09-26 07:44 AM

Well, the ORIGINAL plan was to attack Iran and distract us all that way and giving them access to "unlimited" funds. But, we caught on to that little ploy and so they were left with Plan B. Use FEAR to get the $700 billion.

Looks like Plan B sucks too.

Has anybody really considered what will happen if we do NOTHING. I remember when I needed a "loan" and I did not get it. Life still went on for me and I figured out another way to do what I needed to do.

I bet Monday will come and go just like it always does. I bet folks still need to buy food and sell stuff like gas and life will go on as it always does. Our economy is just re calibrating. And it looks like the dollar is just not as strong as it used to be. And I bet if we just concentrated on fixing the problems that plague us this would all turn around.

But, it will be hard work. Fixing Health Care and ending the War in Iraq would be step in the right direction. Or we could just ignore these problems like we always do and take out another "equity loan" and watch our economy deflate even further.

Regardless, I bet the Sun will come up tomorrow.

McCain didn't use the same vetting process as Obama.
I'm sure Joe Biden knows the difference.

#61 | Posted by wisgod at 2008-09-26 09:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

You're right. He talked to her for 15 minutes once and then called her months later and asked is she would be his running mate.

Great Vetting strategy.

@#66 | Posted by donnerboy

Yeah, I'm with you.. I don't believe Bush when he says the world will implode and poor McDonalds wont be able to sell apple pies if we don't sign this bill. Hea Cowboy.. we are all still here, doom hasn't magically happened.

The bankers took a gamble, they lost their bet, now they are crying to their pals in Washington. Stocks are about risk, it happens, life goes on. Don't rob your neighbor to pay for your own misfortune and bad judgment.

The John Stewart 'side by side' videos of Bush in 2002/Iraq and 2008/Bailout speeches was very telling.

The Jon Stewart 'side by side' videos of Bush in 2002/Iraq and 2008/Bailout speeches was very telling.

Jon Stewart: Clusterf*^k To The Poor House.

Agreed. Everybody oughta watch that clip.

Spud watched it last night and gave kudos to the Daily Show team especially JS hisself.

Dumbya's fearmongering replete with lies is his one speciality.

And the act is wearing dreadfully thin.

Be Well.