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Thursday, September 25, 2008

Bruce Ivins, the scientist suspected of the anthrax mailings, sent an email to himself claiming to have solved the case. "I finally know who mailed the anthrax letters in the fall of 2001," he wrote. "I should have been a private eye!!!"

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yes but he made the claim in an email sent to himself... the guy was batshit crazy and he worked with Anthrax...

Case closed...

I know too, bush did it, he must have, he is responsible for all the world ailments and baby eating.

Nice. Thanks for turning this into a political thread, asshole.

"yes but he made the claim in an email sent to himself... the guy was batshit crazy and he worked with Anthrax..."

Why so eager to see this disappears?

And when did you suddenly manifest this level of blind trust in "government"?

I know too, bush did it, he must have, he is responsible for all the world ailments and baby eating.

nah, just ignoring all those 9-11 warnings and letting it happen, losing two wars and ruining the economy.

Cheney does all the baby-eating.

Did he find the pristine passport of the mailer in the rubble of a burned out skyscraper?

After it had been blown safely out of a crashing airliner engulfed in a huge fireball?

That I'd believe.

Why are you a-holes trashing the legacy of such a patriotic martyr? He DID solve the crime, you know!


Sincerely,

John Mark Karr

Cheney does all the baby-eating.

Just for the blood. He doesn't actually need it. He bathes in it.

The timing of the anthrax was more than just convenient.

Right before the vote on the Patriot Act and the two senators who expressed grave concerns over it.

"Cheney does all the baby-eating.

Just for the blood. He doesn't actually need it. He bathes in it.

#8 | Posted by LeeAtwater "

I always suspected Cheney was the reincarnation of Elizabeth Bathory.

Why so eager to see this disappears?


And when did you suddenly manifest this level of blind trust in "government"?

#4 | Posted by Redneckville

I don't want it to disappear... I want to know everything about it.

It just seems to me, that they've got their man, or would have had he not off'd himself.

Why are you so eager for a conspiracy?

Ivins solved this case. He also claims to have solved the Lindbergh baby case, JFK's assassination, 9/11 and what the blue thing was on the surveillance camera at that gas station.

John Mark Carr - I worked with a guy who looked EXACTLY like him, it was spooky.

Elizabeth Bathory

Ah yes, virgin blood. They're aren't any in DC. Cheney has it imported. It's the real reason we invaded Iraq. Cheney wanted to bathe in virgin blood. Very astute, Null.

"Cheney wanted to bathe in virgin blood. Very astute, Null."


So thats why or friend null here is so scared of him.

Rob...when it comes to the infallibility of the FBI, a cursory glance at the Richard Jewel file might cause you to re-assess your opinion of the overall competency of that preening gaggle of suits. I'm not prone to easy acceptance of conspiracy theories, but this particular rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than one lone geeky suicidal lab rat and there are a few credible researchers out there that believe Hoover's G-Men seemed to be in way too much of hurry to solve the mystery and close the book.

This ain't a partisan issue...the American People deserve to know the truth about this.

"It just seems to me, that they've got their man, or would have had he not off'd himself.
Why are you so eager for a conspiracy?
#11 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-09-25 01:17 PM


Why it's because of my consistent and principled distrust of government ---- unlike you, who seems to waffle in the between.

And how are you so sure he off'd himself? Because the "government" says so?

You're more of a fucking Fool than I originally thought!

I'm with you Dutch.

Of course he knew...that's why they murdered him.

And how are you so sure he off'd himself? Because the "government" says so?

I find myself feeling sorry for you...

Not everything is a "JFK conspiracy"... hell JFK wasn't even a conspiracy.

This ain't a partisan issue...the American People deserve to know the truth about this.

#16 | Posted by dutch46

I agree its not partisan...

All I see is an obvious nutjob who had the supplies and the capabilities to pull it off.

I personally think the speed of the FBI in trying to close out the case has more to do with the embarassment of how long its taken to get here, rather then pinning the blame on some innocent lab rat that they murdered...


How the hell does one die of an overdose of tylenol?

How the hell does one die of an overdose of tylenol?

#22 | Posted by Lipzoidial

Very easily... too much tylenol will destroy your liver.

tylenol.com|1310246273

"too much tylenol will destroy your liver."

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


But too much Bourbon tastes better.

i179.photobucket.com

Rob:
Both McKinney and Bedard told me about people who took Tylenol or phosphorous, which also destroys the liver (and incidentally produces phosphorescent vomit). In both cases, they slept off the initial sickness and recovered for five days -- during which time they decided suicide was a mistake after all and they wanted to live. But the liver had been destroyed and after five days each of them started to feel very sick, passed into deep coma, and died. "He knew it would happen and that there was nothing we could do about it," Bedard said, "and his friends and family knew it, and for five days they sat in the hospital together waiting for it."
www.well.com

So he knew five days before they were just about to arrest him? If you were gonna off yourself to avoid prison wouldn't you do something that worked quicker or wasn't reversible?
###

Addition, if an adult consumes a lethal amount of Tylenol, it generally takes three or four days for death to occur. "It's not an instant death at all," Doctor Christensen said.

"As health-care providers, our main goal is to save the liver. If the ingested amount of Tylenol is too great for the liver to handle, it will begin to fail and we desperately try to overcome that failure with the Mucomyst medication," the doctor said.

"All scenarios and individuals are different, but sometimes once liver damage begins it can rapidly continue to full blown liver failure and death will soon ensue," he said. "When the liver is in complete failure, the only treatment is a liver transplant, which generally doesn't happen. Once the liver fails, it fails."
www.af.mil

the guy was batshit crazy and he worked with Anthrax...

Case closed...

How Convenient!

Be Well.

/Yup, is spud, entering the "Drudgiest Place on Earth" (TM), as ya do,
stage left.

If you were gonna off yourself to avoid prison wouldn't you do something that worked quicker or wasn't reversible?

How many days did he spend in jail?

If that was his motivation, and we don't know that it was, it seems to have worked.

But too much Bourbon tastes better.


i179.photobucket.com

Posted by Zatoichi

that stuff is made 20 miles from my house.

Let's throw this question out... if it wasn't him and its all just some big gubment conspiracy that involved the murder of an innocent man, why didn't they just do this years ago and not look so inept...

Hell my father-in-law is a biochemist who has worked with Anthrax and lives in Central Jersey just a couple towns over from where it was mailed out... they could have pinned it on him...

Would have helped me out anyways...

"that stuff is made 20 miles from my house."

Posted by eberly

Lucky SOB.

But too much Bourbon tastes better.


i179.photobucket.com

#25 | Posted by Zatoichi

I have a special bottle of Makers Mark with Garnet and Gold wax that is being saved for the next time Florida State wins a national championship in football... seems like its going to be well aged by then...

"saved for the next time Florida State wins a national championship in football"

Will it be passed down through the generations?

Let's throw this question out... if it wasn't him and its all just some big gubment conspiracy that involved the murder of an innocent man, why didn't they just do this years ago and not look so inept...

They did...except the murder part. Then it bit them in the ass. They got their act together for the second patsy.


Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, won't get fooled again.

If that was his motivation, and we don't know that it was, it seems to have worked.
rob-the point was that tyleno poisoning can be prevented, while shooting yourself or throwing yourself off a bridge isn't. He worked with anough shit to cause non-reversible death, if he wanted to die.
Why would he, expecting to be arrested at any moment, decide to kill himself in a way that the cops could have averted?

rob-the point was that tyleno poisoning can be prevented, while shooting yourself or throwing yourself off a bridge isn't.

True, but those actions also require quite a set of stones on the persons part... just swallowing pills is really nothing compared to other types and it works... actually holding a gun to your head or taking that step off a ledge is more then some people are capable of.

The latest unbelievable detail to emerge from the case. He sent an email to himself? I am suppoed to believe that.

Do you do that? How many people do you know that send themselves an email?

Add to that the detail that he supposedly killed himself - and with Tylenol OD no less. How many people take tylenol to OD?!?

Don't people usually take narcotics or something stronger than tylenol? I am sure some people do die from accendital od on tylenol but to tkae it on purpose to commit sucide? Another unbelieveable detail about the case.

He was a smart enough to be a scientist. He had access to anthrax. But he couldn's figure out or access anything but tylenol for his sucide attempt?

NOT BUYING IT.

Then the FBI would have us believe he is an angry loner and a mental case and a stalker. But the people he worked with and family and friends ALL portray a quite different description of a kind nice man who went to church on Sunday.

The most distirbing unbelievable fact of all - that he singlehandley got ahold of the anthrax vial and THEN had the ablilty to weaponize the anthrax from the vial.

Could one person do that AND how did he get access to all the equipment that you would need for that without detection? No my friends there are MANy so called facts being released by the FBI that only takes a cursory overview to make one suspect something is quite foul with the results of this investigation.

This is not a case closed by ANY means. No matter how much some people in the government or the intelligence community want it to be otherwise.

I am glad people continue to ask for more information and I applaud the congressmen who ask for this investigation to be pursued. The whole story is not being revealed here or there is some kind of cover up going on IMHO!

Do you do that? How many people do you know that send themselves an email?

Actually, yes. If I have anything really important (like the collected wisdom of 101), I'll send it to myself, because, having had a harddrive go tits up, I'll have a copy stored on an email server. It's like burning it to a CD, only easier, cheaper and more convenient.

I'm not saying that this guy is anything more than a wackjob, just that there are valid reasons to email yourself something.

"Not everything is a "JFK conspiracy"... hell JFK wasn't even a conspiracy."

So Rob- Lee Harvey was the only shooter? And he took it upon himself? No conspiracy behind the JFK assisination at all? Even considering LHO's assination and Ruby's ties?

You are a trusting individual. Good luck with that.

"(like the collected wisdom of 101),"

Talk about wasting a byte.

Jomamma. How many handles do you have speedbag?


I know too, bush did it, he must have, he is responsible for all the world ailments and baby eating.

#2 | Posted by salamandagator

Salami,
Unlike you and your conservative droogies, liberals know that Dubya is incapable of running a lemonade stand much less orchestrating this kind of plot. The cabal of assholes that surround Junior are guilty of many crimes, but this one appears to be the work of one pathetic sad individual. He joins a long line of conservative assholes who lash out in violence at their fellow man when they deem that punishment is necessary. I'm sure he has some twisted belief that the people he attacked deserved what they got.
Perhaps some invisible deity told him to attack or he believed that he was saving his country from "big government".

Ohhhhhh.. but I thought the administration said it was middle eastern in origin?

This is somewhat significant, I e-mail stuff to myself all the time that I want to keep a record about. I wonder if that message was redacted at all..

Too bad he was suicided, err.. I mean committed suicided.. Like.. Lee Harvey Oswald (suicided by lead poisoning), Vince Foster, Deborah Jeane Palfrey, and Alexander Litvinenko.. we will never know the truth.

So Rob- Lee Harvey was the only shooter?

Yes.

And he took it upon himself?

Yes.

No conspiracy behind the JFK assisination at all?

Nope.

Even considering LHO's assination and Ruby's ties?

Even with that...

Back & to the left... back & to the left... back & to the left... Maybe that's cuz the bullet exploded out out of thr front & right... equal and opposite reactions and all.

People come up with conspiracies because they want to believe that our government is some super powerful all knowing entity... its not and sometimes we get our asses handed to us...

"Back & to the left... back & to the left... back & to the left... Maybe that's cuz the bullet exploded out out of thr front & right... equal and opposite reactions and all."

Rob, there is an excellent Discovery channel documentary called Beyond the Magic Bullet where they duplicated the shot and showed clearly how it was possible. Case closed, as far as I'm concerned.

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Rob, there is an excellent Discovery channel documentary called Beyond the Magic Bullet where they duplicated the shot and showed clearly how it was possible. Case closed, as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks I'll check it out... Maybe more people then just Oswald knew what he was going to do, but I've never seen anything real saying there were more shooters...

Along the same topic, when JFK hit the theatres I was pretty young, and never really took in the gravity of the film of Kennedy's assasination. A few weeks back I watched it on YouTube, and the video really struck me kind of hard... first off because its a man having his head blown off, but then its the President of the United States... must have been a crazy time to be alive.

Good night all... the wife is having her fellow hens over for the Grey's Anatomy premier and I need to escape to a neighbors...

Null, I just watched it. Very well done. I love that shit.

Really? Was it on Discovery Channel recently? Or do you have the video? I last saw it a few months ago.

From the article ......

"The e-mails deepen the mystery surrounding Ivins, who died July 29 after an overdose of Tylenol as prosecutors inched closer to charging him ...."

Here's a guy with access to one of the most deadly things on Earth, and he dies by taking too much Tylenol?

I think it's obvious that Bush ordered a hit, because Ivins would have revealed how Cheney coordinated the 9/11 attacks.

Maybe more people then just Oswald knew what he was going to do, but I've never seen anything real saying there were more shooters...

#46 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-09-25 08:34 PM | Reply

JFK was shot by Frank Sinatra and Elvis, from a Klingon battle cruiser based on the moon.

Boob read it on the Internet, so you know it's true.


Really? Was it on Discovery Channel recently? Or do you have the video? I last saw it a few months ago.

#48 | Posted by nullifidian

It was on Discovery or A&E last Sunday night. The best part was (and I forget the guy in the front seat's name) was in a "jump" seat that was more inboard and lower than a standard seat, and that's how they disqualified the "magic bullet" theory.

JFK's assasination may or may not have been a conspiracy but the Warren Commision was a cover-up.

Be Well.

Spud, you do a lousy Buffaloo_Boob imitation.

He figures out who did it and doesn't tell anyone?

The letter sounds like the letters that the pedophiles featured on 'To Catch A Predator' write and then leave in the car that basically says "I'm going to meet an underage girl, but i don't plan to do anything illegal".

Bullshit!

@#44 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

People come up with conspiracies because they want to believe that our government is some super powerful all knowing entity... its not and sometimes we get our asses handed to us...

Our government is a bunch of incompetent lazy bureaucrats, however not all conspiracies are fake.

Gulf of Tonkin, real conspiracy.
Watergate, real conspiracy.
The Reichstag fire, real conspiracy.
The Gunpowder Plot, real conspiracy.
Iran Contra affair, real conspiracy.
The Suez Crisis, real conspiracy.

We don't call them conspiracy's anymore.. and some of them were foiled.. but people do conspire.. maybe the Business Plot is another real conspiracy..

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