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Wednesday, September 24, 2008

The FBI will investigate four major U.S. financial institutions whose collapse helped trigger a $700 billion bailout plan. The FBI is looking at potential fraud by mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers and American International Group. Inquiries will focus on the financial institutions and the individuals that ran them.

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Why, the Bush DOJ aint gonna prosecute anybody.
Its what they do.
Not prosecute.

Fucking kings men.

Potential fraud?!

Wow! Whate geniuses these g-men are! What gave them a clue?!

When this news broke this afternoon the commentator on CNN said that a number of people in Congress (I'm sure from both parties) will also be investigated. Let's see some heads roll. I'm surprised there is even an FBI investigation unless it's all for show.

The report said in 2005 it was the White House, with the help of some of their cronies in Congress, who changed the banking laws to enable people to take out a sub-prime loan to buy a house with ZERO down payment. I'm sure the politicians made these changes to the law at the request of their buddies in the mortgage industry who then paid them back with large political campaign donations. Evidently a number of members in Congress -- along with the top guys in Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac -- were all entwined in major corruption and fraud. It should be interesting to see which names pop up -- especially in an election year.

The report said Congress, the White House, and those in the mortgage industries had to have known that if someone couldn't even afford a $5 down payment on a house, then they sure would not be qualified financially to borrow a $400,000 sub-prime loan. The corruption we're seeing is wide-spread and evidently goes all the way to the top.

I am sorry, but this has been going on a lot longer than that.
I was building homes in 1985. You could get a 0 down payment, 3-1, 5-1 buydown loan, with a 30K income.
Those homes had market entry values of 250k to 500k.
The reasoning behind all these loans was quite simple: Your wages will go up, and so will the property values, allowing you to refinance 2 years out in the loan, allowing the buyer to take advantage of the increased equity.
In the early 90's this expanded thru most classes of residential property, taking advantage of emerging tech boom. Thats also when the real estate industry started to use shock marketing, telling prospective buyers that these deals and finance schemes wouldnt last, and that you had to buy NOW. This is also when corporate builders captured the market. They were able to make deals with lenders, insurers and speculators, giving them an edge in financing. This allowed them to absorb, and in many instances run out of business the community builders. It is also during this time that wall st. was figuring out a way to make even more money, and you started to see these exotic, unattached securities coming on line.
As we went through the 90's, again in order to increase profits for investors, whom wanted more from the investment, wall st. started pushing hard for the companies that they underwrote to find ways to increase the return for investors, to match the performance of the home building industry. Many started to use 3rd party employment(keeps wages low and gives 3rd party a cut in that wage) contract employment, offshoring of service obligations and a whole host of other moves that harmed the prosperity for the average person.
The last home I built is sitting empty, and even after the price cuts, there is some 50% of the price is profit needed to pay the investors. By the time we closed up, builders were cutting the pay for the contractors, many using undocumented workers to put pressure on the contracts, all of it downward, to keep pace with investor demands for more, more, more.
In the end, statrting roughly 10 years ago, the wall st. firms invented new securities, based on the residential mortgages, but wholey unattached to said mortgage. At this time, virtually every piece of residential property in this COUNTRY, is over-valued by 50%, and in some markets, far more than that.
Now the ponzi scheme is collapsing, and the people whom have bankrupted this nation want bailed out.
Of all the money made on wall st., through all the trades, a scant 2% has flowed through to the average citizen, whether by 401k, sponsered pention plans and the various other so called retirement savings ( which is what anything over your paid wage is considered), while a minority of people have taken 98% of all money on the table at any given point in time. They take theirs before anyone else.
And now they want more, so they dont have to live like everyone else. So they dont lose their hundreds of millions in profits, profits that have cost jobs and prosperity for the masses, because they've convinced virtually everybody, that their efforts are worth more than the combined efforts of the majority of citizens.
Those whom wish to own everything and everybody, have brought this nation to the brink. They say they have a plan to cure the problem, yet the cure is more of the same, consolidation of the vast majority of wealth into fewer and fewer hands.
And just so everybody knows, Paulson was at the helm of goldman when they invented these toxic securities, fraud paper, to put it simply, he profited from them, and then as he was leaving goldman, invented new toxic paper that bet against the very derivitives they were selling as solid investments to everyone.
Its all fraud, all the time. And the masses get the shit covered johnson.

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, should be investigated as well. This Party is Un-American, this is the Party that gave us George W. Bush, a Fucking Moron that had no more ability to be President that myself, Fuck it I may have been more qualified than this piece of shit!!!

Now they want to give 700 Billion Dollars to a buck of crooks with no oversight, ARE THESE FUCK CRAZY??? Sec. Paulson just 2 years ago recieved a $43,000,000 (THATS MILLIONS FOLKS) parachute, from Goldman Sachs, the very people an business he now is asking to save. What the hell ever happened CONFLICT OF INTEREST?????

GROW A SET OF BALLS AMERICAN, fight against this crap, an in November 2008 as you vote remember this was the work of the Republician Party, these fucks wants votes they should be in JAIL!!!!!!

Celery,

You're crazier than a shithouse rat.

Celery,

You're crazier than a shithouse rat.

#6 Posted by LeeAtwater at 2008-09-24 02:52 PM


And that's why we all ♥♥♥ Celisary here on DR. lol

What is the "douchebag" threshold when it comes to pointing out grammatical and/or spelling errors?
Surely Celery passed it, no?

HANG EM HIGH!

Start with the SOB CEO who used to run COUNTRYWIDE.

If investigations are ongoing then expect a celebrity indictment as per Marth Stewart.

LOL. This is the "heavily politicized" FBI that the libs have been complaining about. So maybe . . . just MAYBE . . . they will have an investigation, and start banging on the doors of Barack himself. "When you accepted over $100k in contributions, were you aware of the financial peril the firms faced?" "When you appointed a former Fannie CEO to your team, did he tell you at any time that the paper of FNM was so suspect?" "Did you promise any consideration, whether implied or actual, would be headed to Fannie Mae in the event of your election?"

and so on . . . .

Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Schumer the schlmeal, and the other thieving dems better watch their ass. All inversigation will point directly back at them.

Aren't most of the executives involved with these firms registered as Democrats?

Aren't the Fannie Mae executives, who "cooked the books" to generate such large bonuses for themselves also "black?" Good gosh, could this investigation also be a "legal lynching" if blacks are caught in the net?

Democrats and blacks inculpated? Now is that an outcome that the leftist posters want to see whether or not it is true? They surmised that the people who would be compromised would be those "no good white Republicans." Golly gee. Gosh. Do you want the investigators to ease up if the targets are not those you supposed?

1st of all- who cares about skin color. Besides johnson...

2nd- If democrats broke laws and stole money, throw them in prison too.

But let's be honest. This isn't about rep vs dem is it? It's about rich vs poor, and large numbers of people aren't going to prison over this fiasco.

Large numbers of rich people, that is. Those who lost their homes due to shitty loans, or their jobs, or their 401K or whatever are already serving time.

Apparently johnson is the only one who cares what the color of ones skin is on the executives.

I seemed to have missed the hundreds of posts about this bailout being about the skin color but do see alot about the content of these executives character, well maybe except for johnsons.

1st of all- who cares about skin color. Besides johnson...

Ummm, who cares about color?

Lessee now... the KKK, skinheads, NeoNazis and ...Johnson.

That's about all Spud can think of there.

2nd- If democrats broke laws and stole money, throw them in prison too.

Damn straight Alex, let the chips and the heads fall where they may.

But let's be honest. This isn't about rep vs dem is it? It's about rich vs poor, and large numbers of people aren't going to prison over this fiasco.

Ding. Ding. Ding.

And we haff a WINNER!

Alex goes to the front of the blogclass fee that.

It's like they raped y'all and then sent a 700 Billion dollar bill fer the condom.

Plus they want a "Get out of Jail Free" card before they start.

Fuck THAT!

Be Well.

When this is all over the seeds will be sown for a repeat, why because EVERY politician is a liar. Lying and stealing are prerequisites for all congress men and women Democrat or Republican. The only difference between congress and the mafia is the mafia would not run the business completely into the ground which shows the mafia would be better stewards of our economy than the crooked bastards in congress...

ATAX,

Nice post, yes our representatives are truely worse than the mafia.

In fact comparing the representatives to the mafia is light, the mafia would make sure they would take care of those that feed them.

"""When you accepted over $100k in contributions, were you aware of the financial peril the firms faced?" "When you appointed a former Fannie CEO to your team, did he tell you at any time that the paper of FNM was so suspect?" "Did you promise any consideration, whether implied or actual, would be headed to Fannie Mae in the event of your election?""

Huh??? McCain's campaign manager makes those contrtibutions seem like pocket change and he was receiving it right through last month...
If anyone has some explaining to do it is McCain and his campaign manager. Let's see now, his financial advisor was Phil Graham, his campaign manager was a lobbyist for Freddie Mac, gee next thing you know someone in his campaign will even mix foreign policy with lobbying...oh yeah, they already did that....Randy Scheunemann, McCain foreign policy advisor received $200,000 from Georgia....Gee...no wonder McCain sais "we are all Georgians."


WASHINGTON, D.C. Almost up until the time it was taken over by the government in the nation's financial crisis, one of two housing giants paid $15,000 a month to the lobbying firm of John McCain's campaign manager, a person familiar with the financial arrangement says.

The money from Freddie Mac to the firm of Rick Davis is on top of more than $30,000 a month that went directly to Davis for five years starting in 2000.

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Innovation isn't against the law. Bad credit decisions aren't against the law either. False official statements to an agency of the US government -- yes. False statements to would-be private counterparties, potentially yes. May be some assumption of the risk on the counterparty's half.

That private insurers gambled on the possibility that credit defaults would be less than the fees earned by insuring agianst such defaults is no crime. It was a miscalculated bet, and the rocket-scientists who devised the risk evaluation models probably honestly believed their calculations were sound. No crime in guessing badly, either.

just MAYBE . . . they will have an investigation, and start banging on the doors of Barack himself. "When you accepted over $100k in contributions...

My god man, you're a smart fellow, but do you have to act so stupid just to suit your agenda? Accepting lawful campaign contributions from the employees of a company (which is where almost all of that money came from... and yes, SOME PAC money) does not constitute accepting money from the company, no matter what party the candidate is from. That's some 1st rate douchebaggery, bud.

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