Murphy-
Paulson serves at the pleasure of the Republican President you voted for twice.

Paulson is only interested in his friends and he is hiding--he is Goldman Sachs

For you to believe the BS that this guy spews is remarkable.

You disbelieved the Iraq BS--why not this?

people will remember what is freshest in their memories - if snowjobama is elected - next year at this time, they'll blame him...for all 143 days in senate and 365 days as potus. people easily forget history when it behooves them. they forgot carter and the "subprime" lending mess and the glass-steagall act over 60 years ago. many people remember that which serves them best. even if it is a lie.

Nanc-
It must "behoove" you to forget the last eight years. Good luck with that. Lord knows I'm trying.

"My friends, I am not now, nor ever have been a member of the Republican Party. I have always been a Bullmooser. Trust me, I spent 5 years without a kitchen table, so I'd never lie."
John "who'sthisBushguy" McNotthesame

www.electoral-vote.com

Obama 282 McCain 236 Ties 20

Sep 16

Obama 247 McCain 257 Ties 34

No investigation by Democrats = Democrats guilty.

Just like no investigation by Palin = Plain guilty?

Or is that different?

Or is that different?

#9 | Posted by 726

Plain who?

Cute.

Your refusal to answer is your answer.

Thanks for playing.

hi i'm a republican
and i'm voting against the good of america

Rethuglicons getting blamed for the economy? Geez, whodathunkit?

www.electoral-vote.com

Obama 282 McCain 236 Ties 20

Sep 16

Obama 247 McCain 257 Ties 34

#7 | Posted by 726 at 2008-09-23 08:48 AM

Oops.

Polls are meaningless.

#9 | Posted by 726 at 2008-08-25 11:11 AM

This will put the ball clearly in Flop Ears lane. Can a guy with a 37 average bowl a few strikes? Sarah the Baracuda could.

In a CNN/Opinion Research Corp

Here is the first problem consider the source the "Communist News Network"... These idiots could prove Nancy Pelosie is Hott looking with one of there polls...

This will put the ball clearly in Flop Ears lane. Can a guy with a 37 average bowl a few strikes? Sarah the Baracuda could.

#16 | Posted by fwthom

Better to have a 37 bowling average than to have a 37 IQ like you and your buddies Bush and McCrash. BTW, did you pick up your opinions at the MENSA meetings or the NAMBLA meetings?

Here is the first problem consider the source the "Communist News Network"... These idiots could prove Nancy Pelosie is Hott looking with one of there polls...

#17 | Posted by ATaxpayer

Hey, could you translate that into intelligent English?

yea ataxpayer

keep watching liars news network
and think you got the answers

fool me thrice anyone?

I blame the hell out of this administration !!!

Where the hell were they...what the hell have they been doing. They knew all along the dems were lying about Fan/Fred ...knew the agencies were brewing disaster.
Yet they let it go on ...WHY????

We need a clean sweep...unfortunately it has been to point the finger at each party.
They were all complicit in this!FOR UMPTEEN YEARS!

n 2004, Fannie was caught cooking the books.[4] The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) alleged widespread accounting errors at Fannie Mae. James Lockhart, Director of the OFHEO, commented that "The image of Fannie Mae as one of the lowest-risk and 'best in class' institutions was a faade. Our examination found an environment where the ends justified the means. Senior management manipulated accounting, reaped maximum, undeserved bonuses, and prevented the rest of the world from knowing."[5]

It's time to deal that long awaited RACE card: "I hope that everyone remembers that Flop Ears is BLACK. Would you want to let a Black guy marry your sister, much less be your president?" Just asking.

Thom the Wheeler Dealer

Blame Republicans for everything bad under the sun.

Thom the Wheeler Dealer

#23 | Posted by fwthom

I would certainly rather have my daughter marry a black like obama than a retard like you.

Thom the DR #1 idiot

Blame Republicans for everything bad under the sun.

#24 | Posted by jfreshbloomer

Not everything, just all the crap we've had for the last eight years

Hey, ATAXPAYER - exactly what do you think government takeover of Wall Street is? Democracy in action? HAHAHAHAHA! LOL! Wake up, TAXPAYER - you have just arrived in the United SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA! Just stick in that extra "S" and you'll never know the difference. HAHAHAHAHA! HECK of a job, Shrubie! You managed to not only destroy the ECONOMY, the United States reputation world-wide but you have also brought us SOCIALISM to replace our old, worn-out system of government! And we never knew what hit us. Well, some of us did but we were out-voted. Maybe.

Thom the Wheeler Dealer

#23 | Posted by fwthom
PS

I'm sure you don't believe in evolution, Thom, maybe because your line never did evolve beyond scum-pond amoebas.

"Blame Republicans for everything bad under the sun."

Let's turn this around:

Any admission of responsibility from members of 'the party of responsibility'?

Just like no investigation by Palin = Plain guilty?

Or is that different?
Lets see.

700 billion cover up verses allegations of abuse of power for trying get a rougue cop fired for making threats and abusing the power of his position.

Yep they are different.

Oops.

Polls are meaningless.

#9 | Posted by 726 at 2008-08-25 11:11 AM

#15 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

Polls are meaningless. There is only one poll that matters and that is in November. I don't beleive any of them, but it is fun to watch the gyrations back and forth.

Any admission of responsibility from members of 'the party of responsibility'?

Hearing from September 2003 on an administration proposal to alter the regulation of GSEs like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. See Congressman Barney Frank's opening statement, which begins at 4:40.

I want to begin by saying that I am glad to consider the legislation, but I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis. That is, in my view, the two government sponsored enterprises we are talking about here, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not in a crisis. We have recently had an accounting problem with Freddie Mac that has led to people being dismissed, as appears to be appropriate. I do not think at this point there is a problem with a threat to the Treasury.

Yep they are different.

#30 | Posted by midtowncowboy

Thanks for being honest.

If both are avoiding an investigation, how can one be guilty and one not?

It has nothing to do with the circumstances surrounding the issue, but rather the refusal to investigate.

Republicans ARE responsible for the HOLDING-THE-BAG economy they have crafted over the past 8 years.

Socialism for the rich and piss on (EXCUSE me Trickle down) for the people who actually work for a living!

If you LIKE the way the economy is running right now then BY ALL MEANS vote GOP in the next election.

ANY American who works hard for a living would be a FOOL to vote GOP this time around!

Time for a CLEAN SWEEP! Out with the MONEY BAGS and their CONTRACT ON AMERICA!

VOTE DEM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE MORE MONEY in the next 4 years!!

"See Congressman Barney Frank's opening statement"

You're pulling out something from five years ago, and the phrase he used was "at this point".

Besides, Republicans chaired all the committees.

Still no admission of responsibility from the so-called party of responsibility.

I do not think at this point there is a problem with a threat to the Treasury.

#32 | Posted by midtowncowboy

And McBush said the economy was fine 8 days ago.

Hearing from September 2003 on an administration proposal to alter the regulation of GSEs like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. See Congressman Barney Frank's opening statement, which begins at 4:40.

I want to begin by saying that I am glad to consider the legislation, but I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis. That is, in my view, the two government sponsored enterprises we are talking about here, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not in a crisis. We have recently had an accounting problem with Freddie Mac that has led to people being dismissed, as appears to be appropriate. I do not think at this point there is a problem with a threat to the Treasury.

#32 | Posted by midtowncowboy
Brokeback. Who was in control of BOTH houses of congress and the White House in 2003....Frank in at fault for SAYING that, but who control the power...

Frank "is" at fault.

It has nothing to do with the circumstances surrounding the issue, but rather the refusal to investigate.
Not really. An investigation will be performed. But it should not be a political event. And thats exactly what will happen if the investigation moves forward before the Nov election.

Hey, ATAXPAYER - exactly what do you think government takeover of Wall Street is? Democracy in action?

No and obviously you have no idea what I think, I am a capitalist and do not believe in bailouts as far as I am concerned they should fail

Who was in control of BOTH houses of congress and the White House in 2003....Frank in at fault for SAYING that, but who control the power...
CHILL you imply that you know very little about the procedures in the congressional committes. Amendments can be added to water down any bill which is exactly what was done.

Quit arguing and go research the issue. See what changes were requested, who blocked them and why, and see the outcome.

BTW, who signed the bill deregulating these two DEM cash cows?

Let's turn this around:

Any admission of responsibility from members of 'the party of responsibility'?

No Dan...we haven't.

Tragedy,

when you pack the sack and can't carry it back

its tragedy

"47 percent of registered voters questioned said Republicans are more responsible for the problems currently facing financial institutions"

YEAH!

No wonder, this perception is due to the years of the Bush Sycophants attributing every perceived success as "Solely Due to Bushs Leadership"

You know, like how they said over and over how Bush unilaterally made us safer by taking out saddam!
Or how he presided over the largest homeowner increase in American history!
Or how he was solely responsible for the low unemployment
Or the Economy (when doing well)

Or, perhaps, it's the years of the Sean Hannities bragging and talking up how Bush and the repubs did anything they wanted and didn't need the rest of congress or the population's approval!

Pretty sad, murph!

An investigation will be performed. But it should not be a political event.

#39 | Posted by midtowncowboy

Attempting to redirect the investigation to a three person panel appointed by the governor is a political event.

Sweeping the invetigation under the rug until after the November elections is a political event.

Attempting to hide the truth until any political fallout would be irrelevant is a political event.

Why is the truth something that needs to be hidden until after the election?

Reopening a closed personnell matter solely for political revenge is a political event.

well of COURSE they are and in spite of these THREE FACTS

dems have had control for two years

head of senate banking committe has been in pocket of fannie mae or mac and is in charge of committe regulating them

TWO men who are advisors and buds of barry wayne were reaping millions from mac and mar and we hear ALMOST NOTHING ABOUT IT.....

barney frank is a total zilch and republicans should be screaming for him and dodd to resign

just like katrina and a host of other issues.
dems just keep saying...."EETS NOT MY YOB"

BLT,

the surge is working and Iraq ia calling you.

"dems have had control for two years"

wrong
bush was in control
the dems just lame ducked him.
thats all they can do cause bush keeps vetoing them with his socialist big brother policies

nice try

just like katrina and a host of other issues.
dems just keep saying...."EETS NOT MY YOB"
#46 | Posted by bushlovertwo at 2008-09-23 11:26 AM

YEAH!

Because apparently its not!

See Unitary Executive And Bushs Doctrine of The Unitary Executive!

However you should already know this inside and out, since it's what you have been advocating and summarily chastising others for critiquing for over six years now, so I suspoect your just playin' stupid, again!

"dems have had control for two years"

"wrong
bush was in control"

They all had the responsibility to do something about this...ALL....
If this is not admitted and DC flooded with outrage for both parties...it will just be the same ole...same ole....

And McBush said the economy was fine 8 days ago.

#36 | Posted by 726 at 2008-09-

he did NO SUCH Fuckin thing and YOU DAMN WELL KNOW IT..........
listen to the entire speech or comments.......you silly goose

wrong
bush was in control
the dems just lame ducked him.
thats all they can do cause bush keeps vetoing them with his socialist big brother policies

nice try

#48 | Posted by klifferd at

ah yes the good ole liberal selective memory

the majority republican congress STOPPED AT EVERY TURN by the dem minority.......

can you rememeber ANY of that WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY back when???????

"listen to the entire speech or comments."

McCain, in the morning: The fundamentals of our economy are strong.

McCain, in the afternoon: The fundamentals of our economy are at risk.

You can't make this shit up.

STOPPED AT EVERY TURN

You really should have paid attention. Reality is very different from you memory.

"the majority republican congress STOPPED AT EVERY TURN by the dem minority....."

So what are you saying...that obstructionism is the fault of the obstructors?!?

Telling, after the Rs recently set the all-time record for obstructionism in less than half the time. But that won't stop partisan hacks from selective blame.

barney frank is a total zilch and republicans should be screaming for him and dodd to resign

Scream away... ho, ho, ho !

seems quite simple

everyone seems to be agreeing that the problem is resulting from unregulated, lightly regulated industry acting irresponsibly, correct?

so who is the party for deregulation?

McCain, in the morning: The fundamentals of our economy are strong.

McCain, in the afternoon: The fundamentals of our economy are at risk.

You can't make this shit up.

#53 | Posted by Danforth at

and you are correct

IF you stop at the soundbites........

STOPPED AT EVERY TURN

You really should have paid attention. Reality is very different from you memory.

#54 | Posted by 726 at 2008

PLEASE Tell me that you didnt type this....

I was RIGHT HERE all during that time when the dems did NOTHING BUT OBSTRUCT time after time after time and I remember even writing here about the republicans being pussies for letting the bastards get away with it.......

So what are you saying...that obstructionism is the fault of the obstructors?!?

Telling, after the Rs recently set the all-time record for obstructionism in less than half the time. But that won't stop partisan hacks from selective blame.

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2008

no...I am responding to more close minded and bigoted leftists who cant see the forest passed their noses(???)

and what you are talking about is JUST WHAT we said during that time.

that it will all come back to them IF the left won in 06..........

so how about this.........they both obstruct and its one of two things

its ALWAYS BAD For me and you as taxpayers

OR........when one side obstructs, then NOTHING gets down and SOMETIMES.........thats not so bad.......

gotta go

have a great day

I was RIGHT HERE all during that time when the dems did NOTHING BUT OBSTRUCT time after time after time and I remember even writing here about the republicans being pussies for letting the bastards get away with it.......

so if more republican policies went through the bail out could be $2 Trillion?

"that it will all come back to them IF the left won in 06......"

Well then it should be easy to point to laws passed by the Dems in the last two years.

Oh, you can't?

Is it because Republicans set the record for obstructionism?

Or is it because they did it in less than half the time?

Kerrin57 -
I admire your willingness to dump on the Repubs at least a little. I'm sure there's some blame to spread around both parties, but the party of deregulation to me deserves greater scorn.

*** Poll: Repubs Catch More Blame for Economy ***

........they should.......they fucked it up.........

.......in the end......its all about the deficit.....

.......the Repubs spent like drunken sailors, and now the bar bill has arrived.......

.......the more money we have to borrow....the less the dollar is worth.......

......the less the dollar is worth....the more money we have to borrow......

.......its called a death-spiral.......

Can someone please tell me how Nanc and many of you other uber-cons keep coming up with '143 days' that Obama has been in the Senate.

I know most of you are completely against education, but he's been in since 2004. You want to try your math again?

Was it Vernons calculator that gave you this figure?

Common,

Can someone please tell me how Nanc and many of you other uber-cons keep coming up with '143 days' that Obama has been in the Senate.

Obama was in the senate for 143 days until he began campaigning for president - I think that's where the 143 days thing stems from.

I could be wrong though.

This will put the ball clearly in Flop Ears lane. Can a guy with a 37 average bowl a few strikes? Sarah the Baracuda could.

#16 | Posted by fwthom at 2008-09-23 10:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

He can't bowl, so that should be a 'strike' against him for the presidency?

You sure have some bizarre criteria for being president.

p.s. The only thing 'Barracuda' about Sara 'Plain' is the row of razor sharp teeth that line her cooch.

This poll is spot on. Republicans got us into this mess with their idealized 'hands off' approach to oversight and regulation - regulations that had been in place since the Great Depression to prevent these types of meltdowns.

And, it turns out, the White House has had this plan written for months. Turns out they knew their policies could turn everything upside down.

Bernanke, in a Sept. 17 letter to House Financial Services Committee Chairman Frank, echoed the Bush administration view that the creation by Congress of a tougher regulator for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac should precede any relaxation of the portfolio limits.

"Both the size and composition of the portfolios should be tied to reforms that both reduce the systemic risks posed by the portfolios and also clarify the public purpose," Bernanke said in the letter to Frank, a Democrat from Massachusetts.
Today's increase was criticized as too low by officials at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and housing lobbyists, who said it would do little to help revive the $11.5 trillion mortgage market. Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd, Senator Charles Schumer and other Democrats said Ofheo hasn't done enough to reverse the housing slump.

Prescott would be so PROUD of his grandson. His attempt to kill Social Security failed and now Shrub's will succeed. At least Shrub'll have one success in life.

...And, it turns out, the White House has had this plan written for months. Turns out they knew their policies could turn everything upside down.

#72 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

I believe Danni nailed it right in one of her posts the other day when she said Bush and his cronies in crime didn't figure this economic crisis would blow up so soon and had actually planned on having the next President be the fall guy for this economic mess we're in.

You know how the American public often has the attention span of a gnat and the blame would have been laid on whonever was in the Oval Office at the time this Wall Street meltdown exploded. Problem was the pin on the grenade was pulled too soon. I doubt most of the public would even bother to look back to the previous years to see it was the Bush and Republicans free trade mantra and core belief of "Give me deregulation, no rules and no regulations" which got us into this current threat to our American economy. We truly are watching history being made -- for good or for bad -- as we teeter on the brink of the worst threat to our economy since the Great Depression.

p.s. The only thing 'Barracuda' about Sara 'Plain' is the row of
razor sharp teeth that line her cooch.

#70 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

Do you personally have the bite marks to prove your statement? lol

I honestly don't know who is to blame for the mess in the financial markets.

But Bush is quite obviously killing the dollar. And the bailout wouldn't be such a big deal if spending weren't already ridiculously out of control.

harry truman's certainly not in the kitchen.

Franklin Rains - 90 million from this debacle.

Jim Johnson - 50 million from this debacle.

Both Democrat!

Yep, it's those awful Repubs that did this!

AnAmerican-
Wow.WWW.Whitehouse.gov backs your claim that Bush was all over this, LOL. So, tell me, why didn't they do a damn thing about it for the many years they held both houses of Congress and the Presidency and were getting EVERY SINGLE DAMNED THING they wanted?

I can see Bush and the majority Republicans of 2002-2006 now. Helpless, helpless to do anything but cry to the wind!

Pathetic.

Yep, it's those awful Repubs that did this!

#79 | Posted by TheOneBS at 2008-09-23 09:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well, since the Republicans got everything they wanted for the past eight years (or at least since 9/11), it does make one wonder at the cries of victim status.

The "accountability" presidency/party doesn't seem to have any (accountability).

IF you only a simple majority and don't have every vote on your side, you cannot pass a bill. Not every Republican was voting in support of the bill for many reasons - lobbying and money. There has never been any time in US history that any administration was able to pass every bill no matter how much control they had. There are a lot of ways to block bills.

only=only have

I have to retire for the evening. Will check back tomorrow.

Good night all.

"IF you only a simple majority and don't have every vote on your side, you cannot pass a bill."

But when you have a filibuster proof majority and you also have virtual unity within your own party then you can pass whatever you want. The Republicans did and thus are responsible for the outcome of their era of power. Apparently, the American public agrees.