Me first!

Day 23 Palin Watch

0 Press conferences
1 interview
1 fake interview
0 Sunday talk shows

But...
8,735,957 Americans developed severe earaches after hearing that "voice".

1,789 dogs broke chains and leashes trying to escape it.

465 puppies who couldn't, unfortunately, perished.

Two Hour special yesterday on FOX NEWS, about the ECONOMY, the panel all agreed that there was much blame to go around but the moderator Neil Cavuto, came to the conclusion that it was all CLINTON, CLINTON, CLINTON IT ALL CLINTONS FAULT.....Small wonder that thier viewers , the majority of them, still think that we found WMD's in IRAQ. Lets just put on a show an, THE HELL WITH FACTS!!!!!!

Do you think that Fox News knows that George Bush has been President for nearly 8 years??? That for nearly 8 years the Republician Party an thier economic policies have been run by the REPUBLICIANS???

Like Mr. McCain this Republician Party and Fox News seem to be fighting against the other Republician Party, the one that has been in charge for the past 8 years......Is anybody buying this SHIT!!!!!!!

dedicated to Alan Greenspan, Bush's Lies and bailing out private corporations!

"465 puppies who couldn't, unfortunately, perished."

Posted by nullifidian

I went to the range last night. I haven't felt the necessity to go for years, but with the economy sliding down to the bottom of the pit, I felt it prudent to get my hand back. To show you how long it's been...the last time I went, factory loads for .357 and 9mm were $12-15 a box. Now they're $40-45. Yikes! I went through $100 surprisingly quick.

Saturday night and the place was thick with Barneys except for one lane down at the wall with a couple of baggy pants gang bangers blasting away holding their pieces flat and wondering why all their shots were outside the silhouette. I guess all those cops mad dogging them made them a tad skittish.

Dutch. Two words: Hand loads.

"www.jillstanek.com"

Sad. Truly, Sarah Palin's voice is a weapon of mass destruction.

Aflac!

Offensive Flag!

My tinnitus is back!

"Aflac!"

Posted by nullifidian

ROFL

Watched Conan did you?

ff

"Watched Conan did you?"

Thanks for reminding me. Time for an encore.

On MTP the Treasury Secretary was on. He was saying that the govt will buy the "illiguid assets" the financial institutions are holding and that then the govt will hold them and sell them, maybe a few years down the road. Now, I know Tom Brokaw is a politics guy not a finance guy, but I wish he would have asked questions like:

1. Mr. Secretary, what makes you think that people will want to buy these "illiquid assets" in the future?

2. It is thought that this bail out will cost taxpayers $500 to $1T, my question is how do you know that since the problem that caused the crisis in the first place is the fact that no one knows how much those "illiquid assets" are worth?

I wish Hank would be straight with us and tell us that there will be a write off against the U.S. Treasury and that thoses "illiguid assets" will never be sold, much less at a profit like want us to believe.

I hear that Dems want this bailout to be contigent on capping CEO pay. I agree.Wall St. will have to decide whether it is capitalist or socialist. If they want the bailout, they are socialists and can not argue that the free market should determine CEO compensation. If they insist the free market regulation CEO pay, then don't accept the bailout.

For the long term:

1. Privatize Frannie and Freddie.
2. Get rid of the home mortgage deduction.
3. Stop telling people that buying a home is equivalent to the American dream, renting is fine in the 21st especially when people change jobs and careers and every 5 or 6 years. This is not the 1950s anymore when everything was nice and stable.

4. If we are going to have regulation, then updating them would be good. Rather then depression era regulations, let's have 21st regulations.

5. Don't allow firms to have 40 to 1 leverage, but let's regulate the Fed too, why should a bank that gets $1 in deposits be able to make $9 dollars in loans?

6. If you make a loan to someone you know can't possibly pay it back and they declare bankruptcy, you lose, the bankpruptcy court will decide the terms of future payments. It's not the end of the world. I know people who declared bankruptcy who managed to keep their cars because the judge and modified the terms of the loan in order for the person to be able to keep it. There is no reason not to do the same with homes in some cases, of course.

Exclusive video of Republican coaching sessions with Sarah Palin...

Zat...I know, but my decision to go was a spur of the moment thing and I put the pieces in the bag thinking that I'd just get reloads at the counter. They were out and I had to pay range prices for the factory rounds. With my Dad's gun locker, I also inherited a couple of loaders as well, but I live in an apartment and there's no room for a workbench or I'd be doing that if I started going on a regular basis.

I need combat grips for the 9mm...everything was consistently a little high and left of center.

I prefer wheel guns.
More accurate and no chasing brass.

"Exclusive video of Republican coaching sessions with Sarah Palin.."

Serves them right for making an affirmative action hire.

Sorta like me.

I went to the range last night. I haven't felt the necessity to go for years, but with the economy sliding down to the bottom of the pit, I felt it prudent to get my hand back.

Get one of these.

Too bad about the fish.

I love it when they get out the MK 19 next door at Camp Swift.

I love the Navy!

The Ballad of a Dog Named Stains

For those of you who believe all the Palin lies and rumors here is a question.

Do you think this is why Obama picked Biden for VP?

WASHINGTON (AP) - Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacksmany calling them "lazy," "violent" or responsible for their own troubles.
The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004about 2.5 percentage points.

Certainly, Republican John McCain has his own obstacles: He's an ally of an unpopular president and would be the nation's oldest first-term president. But Obama faces this: 40 percent of all white Americans hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, and that includes many Democrats and independents.

More than a third of all white Democrats and independentsvoters Obama can't win the White House withoutagreed with at least one negative adjective about blacks, according to the survey, and they are significantly less likely to vote for Obama than those who don't have such views

ahh, and i thought you were the party of tolerance and acceptance. and this poll was done by the AP and yahoo so it is legit, i mean the AP we know who they are in the tank for.

I am NOT saying I believe it but those of you that believe rumors and lies about Palin just might enjoy this.

#25 | Posted by KBM

But you're the sleazebag that's spreading them anyway, right?

25 | Posted by KBM

Larry Sinclair: Obama Accuser Fails PolygraphsPosted on February 24th, 2008 by mondoreb in 2008 Election Coverage, All News, Breaking News, Country News, Illinois News, State News, US News, US PoliticsRead 23,467 times.Larry Sinclair had Alleged Engaging in Sex and Drugs with Barack Obama

Sinclair took three Tests: A Drug Test and Two Polygraphs

He passed the Drug Test, but Showed "Deception" In both Polygraphs

KBM, are you putting yourself in the same category as this sleazebag?

Can someome please explain this to me?

Wearing jeans and rubber boots, clutching Bibles and weeping between hymns, residents of the storm-shattered Texas coast gathered today at makeshift church services.

Since god is omnipotent and omnscient he new when he created the universe that this hurricane(and all storms)would happen, and he knew who would live and die, and he knew the toll in destruction and misery, all of this way back when he created the universe.
The above would seem to be an exercise in extreme futility.

Okay, but what about the burning questions of the day? WHEN is Todd and Bristol's shotgun (NRA-sanctioned) wedding? Who cares for Trig? The son in the army? The very preggers Bristol? First Dude Todd, who seems to be along for the ride on the campaign trail? America needs to know the Big Stuff as the war rages on and the economy is pulverized. herm

George Michael busted with crack while on the prowl for crack.

George Michael has apologised to his fans for 'screwing up again' after he was arrested at a notorious meeting place for gay men and cautioned for drug possession.

The controversial 45-year-old pop star has promised 'to sort myself out' after he was reportedly caught with a small amount of crack cocaine and cannabis in public toilets on Hampstead Heath in North London.

Anyboy other than Spud watching the Ryder Cup?

Boo Weekley purely fucking RAWKS!

Not only is he having a helluva good day out on the links but he's having fun with it in a way we aint seen in a long while.

Looks like the US is gonna kick the Euros square in the goolies this time out.

And without Tiger either.

Ouch. That's gotta hoit!

^_^

Be Well.

It might have been better to call Saturday's "Describe the following.", Describe the following crotch". However, it did work for somebody.

This weeks winning entry for the

"Describe the following in one sentence or less"

The image

America's 3.7 million Sub Chapter S corporations, which are small companies with less than 75 stock holders, are currently taxed at a rate of 35%. Do you favor or oppose increasing the tax rate on these businesses to 50.3%?

Do you favor or oppose raising the top tax rate on the self-employed from 37.9% to 54.9%?

Do you favor or oppose an increase in the tax that stock holders pay on returns from 15% to nearly 40%?

"The winning entry"

Third win.

"This man's need for psychiatric assistance will not be denied."

You haven't met my health plan.

...and if the first two lobotomies didn't take, what makes anyone think the third would?

"Do you favor or oppose an increase in the tax that stock holders pay on returns from 15% to nearly 40%?"

Labor pays that much. The most drastic, fearsome (to you) proposals tax dividends and capital gains at no more than everyday workers. Why shouldn't income earned by opening the mailbox pay the same rate as sweat-of-the-brow labor?

why should it?

"why should it?"

Because people actually working for their money should pay no more than those waiting for the mailman to deliver their checks. Two generations ago that thought was anathema. Today, it's S.O.P. In some instances, we tax people more than double for unemployment than dividends, something for which the richest got a 60% rate cut.

"why should it?"

Dumbass. Do you need to even ask?

yes, smartass, i want you to defend raising taxes

Yet another Republican parasite who wants trillion dollar wars AND tax cuts. Fucking leeches.

people build their retirement with investments, they supplement it with money they earn and you want to tax it again? how does that make sense. why do you want to tax me, making 28k a year on my investments that i will use to retire on?

thats what i though nullandvoidempyheaded fuckwad

"yes, smartass, i want you to defend raising taxes"

How about the concept of paying your bills, leech.

#45 | Posted by scooter28054 at 2008-09-21 06:24 PM | Reply | Flag: Welfare queen

"yes, smartass, i want you to defend raising taxes"

First, you defending deficit spending, to the tune of the five largest deficits known to man, including this year's trillion-dollar fiasco.

"they supplement it with money they earn and you want to tax it again?"

Not again...for the first time. These are either tax-deferred monies, capital gain monies, or both. Read the tax code.

"I want you to defend raising taxes"

Societies should pay for what they get. Deficit spending not only convinces a populous they deserve more than they pay for, it causes long-term disadvantages as society's choices are choked off and a greater & greater percentage of its annual outlay has to go to service debt.

Your turn...to defend living on a charge card.

"But you're the sleazebag that's spreading them anyway, right?" #27 | Posted by geezer1

Let me quote my part of my post again for you: "For those of you who believe all the Palin lies and rumors"

In other words, all the ranting and raving over lies and rumors as if they are true about Palin/McCain/Bush/Rove/FOX/etc and yes even Obama are just that. It was put out there to show that you don't trust journalists or bloggers, all who have an agenda. Those offended by this and not all the other lies and rumors are hypocrites. And in case you still don't get the point please re-read my line about my not thinking it was true.

Day 23 Palin Watch
0 Press conferences
1 interview
1 fake interview
0 Sunday talk shows

But...
8,735,957 Americans developed severe earaches after hearing that "voice".
1,789 dogs broke chains and leashes trying to escape it.
465 puppies who couldn't, unfortunately, perished.

#2 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

And 60,000 showed up to hear her speak today.

"And 60,000 showed up to hear her speak today."

They showed up for the band and beer.

"And 60,000 showed up to hear her speak today."

From the linked article:

a country band revved up the crowd.

That's the only reason 60,000 were there. They were there to hear the band.

(somehow 10,000 got lost)

When Obama speaks with band and beer present, the people come to hear him. When Palin speaks with band and beer present, the people come for the band and beer.

AHHH. What a colorless and humorless world it would be without blatant hypocrisy to bring a smile to our faces as we laugh at the stooges who bless us with it.

"That's the only reason 60,000 were there."

Over one thousand had to be treated for acute earaches after her speech. Aflac!

"When Palin speaks with band and beer present, the people come for the band and beer."

Talk about humorless. Some people don't recognize sarcasm when it slaps them in the face.

Anyone here remember goatman (or anyone else on the right, for that matter) chastising their brethren when they kept on and on here about how the 200,000 in Berlin were there for the band and not Obama?

Anyone?

Didn't think so.

Talk about blatant hypocrisy.

"Anyone here remember goatman (or anyone else on the right, for that matter) chastising their brethren when they kept on and on here about how the 200,000 in Berlin were there for the band and not Obama?"

Nope.

"Nope."

Hell, there were those here who claimed the same thing about Obama's acceptance speech: They were there for the music beforehand.

Don't remember anyone on the right correcting that either.

"Hell, there were those here who claimed the same thing about Obama's acceptance speech: "

And the speech before 70,000 in Oregon. Didn't hear Goatman or any others criticizing the right on that one either.

"And the speech before 70,000 in Oregon. Didn't hear Goatman or any others criticizing the right on that one either."

As you can imagine, Nullifdian, what a colorless and humorless world it would be without blatant hypocrisy to bring a smile to our faces as we laugh at the stooges who bless us with it.

Anyone here remember goatman(or anyone else on the right, for that matter) chastising their brethren when they kept on and on here about how the 200,000 in Berlin were there for the band and not Obama?...

Talk about blatant hypocrisy.

???

I never said a single word on that subject. Talk about wanting to assign positions to a person! So don't lump me in with anyone else on the right, please. You sound like nullbrain

"I never said a single word on that subject."

That's the point.

Didn't hear Goatman or any others criticizing the right on that one either.

No, you didn't. I wasn't (and still am not) sure if they were right or not. Unlike you, I will not criticize without warrant.

I'm not sure about the Palin thing either. But I am sure that the left insisted it was not the beer and band for Obama and I am sure (it's in this thread) that it is the band and beer for Palin. That's why I commented on on the hypocrisy. That is a sure thing.

Nice try, nully

That's the point.

So you think if a person is unsure of the truth, they should still take one side or the other without all the facts?

Stupid question. Of course you do.

"I never said a single word on that subject."

Of course you didn't. When someone on the right (in all seriousness) claims 200,000 attended an Obama rally only for the music the silence from you is deafening.

And when we have the chance to sarcastically throw that same bullshit back in the righty-tighty's faces?

When Obama speaks with band and beer present, the people come to hear him. When Palin speaks with band and beer present, the people come for the band and beer.

#55 | Posted by goatman at 2008-09-21 09:36 PM

AHHH. What a colorless and humorless world it would be without blatant hypocrisy to bring a smile to our faces as we laugh at the stooges who bless us with it.

Don't play dumb, Goatman. You didn't say a word when rightwingers were attributing Obama's crowds to bands.

But when lefties sarcastically suggest the same about Palin, guess what self-righteous clown shows up to attack lefties as "hypocrites" and "stooges"?

That would be you, hypocrite.

Local news puts the crowd at 25-30K. Only the right-wing sites are putting it higher. The Villages is a 70K retirement community, large Retired Military component.

Don't play dumb, Goatman. You didn't say a word when rightwingers were attributing Obama's crowds to bands.

But when lefties sarcastically suggest the same about Palin, guess what self-righteous clown shows up to attack lefties as "hypocrites" and "stooges"?

That would be you, hypocrite.

LOL. I love to watch you try to spin what is obviously a logically sound and irrefutable argument into something you want it to be -- something you wish I had actually come out and said, but you are unable to prove.

I'll leave you here twisting like a snake on a hot Texas summer's asphalt road. LOL Spin doctors are as amusing as hypocrites

adios desperado. ten divertido!

"LOL. I love to watch you try to spin what is obviously a logically sound and irrefutable argument into something you want it to be -- something you wish I had actually come out and said, but you are unable to prove."

Okay, where's your correction to these:

The fact free concerts preceded and suceeded Obama's speech in Berlin may have skewed the numbers of who was really there to see him. He likes this trick. The largest crowd he had in the States was set up the same way.

#54 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-07-29 07:42 AM

You know, like Obama's 200,000 when it was more like 20,000 and a concert to boot. Same thing happened in Oregon.

#16 | Posted by KBM at 2008-07-27 11:14 PM |

"something you wish I had actually come out and said, but you are unable to prove."

I know exactly what you said, hypocrite. Your hypocrisy is right here:

"#55 | Posted by goatman"

You show me another post when you chastised rightists about attributing Obama's crowds to bands and I'll retract.

"adios desperado. ten divertido!"

Is this "goatman" always such a coward?

The fact free concerts preceded and suceeded Obama's speech in Berlin may have skewed the numbers of who was really there to see him. He likes this trick. The largest crowd he had in the States was set up the same way.

???

What correction? I don't know the truth of the matter, so I keep silent. Like null, you expect someone to take a stance without having all the facts. Well, don't look at me to play that role. Go to null to do that. He relishes it. Even when he has the facts, he makes bold, yet false claims. E.G. he thinks I'm a republican even though I estimate 75% of the votes I've cast in my life have been for democrats. Is that a hoot or what?

"Is this "goatman" always such a coward?"

Not usually. In fact he is known for engaging in endless debate and always trying to get in the last word.

Is this "goatman" always such a coward

???

" E.G. he thinks I'm a republican even though I estimate 75% of the votes I've cast in my life have been for democrats. "

I have no interest in unverifiable claims like that. I evaluate someone's political philosophy on the Retort by the only real evidence available: the content of their posts.

If it talks like a Republican and posts like a Republican, it's probably a Republican.

You show me another post when you chastised rightists about attributing Obama's crowds to bands and I'll retract.

*sigh*

I've said it twice alreadyl, bOoB -- I mean null, but since you seem a little denser than most, I'll do it a third time just for you:

I will not take a positin without all the facts. I did not (nor do I still ) have all the facts on that event.

I realize that as a sheeple, you are used to taking a position on everything -- that being what your sheepleherd tells you. I am not like that. I make up my own mind. If I don't have the facts, I am neutral on the subject.

You, being the idiot you are, think that my neutrality is an automatic siding with the right. That would funny too, if it didn't represent such an inability to be a free thinker. I truly pity those who are incapable of free thought.

I have no interest in unverifiable claims like that.

It is verifiable. I just told you. And since I am actually the one who is pulling the lever or punching the ballot, I can't think of a better person than myself to verify this fact.

Or are you calling me a liar?

Gosh, I'd call anybody but you a liar, Goatman. I don't reckon I want you to cut off my oil supply. I don't know about the other guy, but I'm duly intimidated.

I evaluate someone's political philosophy on the Retort by the only real evidence available: the content of their posts

And I have stated in many, many posts that I

am pro choice,
against prayer in school
against capital punishment
against the war in Iraq
dislike Bush
demand side economist
and a few other ideologies generally considered to be leftist dogma

yet you don't consider those for some very odd reason. You just choose to pretend you've only read the posts that support the right.

???

I guess like da bOoB, you cherry pick your reading material and make your decisions accordingly.

Consider the source. Relax.

"yet you don't consider those for some very odd reason. "

Whatever. You can have the last word, as usual.

I don't reckon I want you to cut off my oil supply.

LOL johnson. You're safe for the time being. We just pulled into the Pascagoula shipyards this morning to get some Ike caused damage repaired. OTOH, those repairs to this rig ought to raise prices at the pump at least 25c - 30c. Bush sent us an email telling us so.

p.s. Nice that you have that ultra-rightist Johnson on your side.

Whatever. You can have the last word, as usual.

ok

Sicne the lefties atending the Obama concerts are young and inexperienced dupes, and those attending the McCain-Palin concerts are less gullible adults, the lefty activities probably have more core indigents, and can't afford the entertainment and grub and potables on their own.

I can imagine that "bread and circuses," er, "intoxicants and concerts," would be more of an inducement to the leftist contingent to come out, attend, and celebrate. After all, maybe they could have a toke with Obama and reminisce with him about the "good old days." Why Obama might even bring his pipe with him. Kindred souls.

#84 | Posted by goatman at 2008-09-21 10:58 PM

... those repairs to this rig ought to raise prices at the pump at least 25c - 30c. Bush sent us an email telling us so.

#85 | Posted by nullifidian at 2008-09-21 10:58 PM

p.s. Nice that you have that ultra-rightist Johnson on your side.

You seem to find it necessary to address superficial aspects of statements, challenge veracity, and attempt to demean positions not because of their content, but because your limitations require you to identify them in a structured context with you compelled to address the larger universe which confronts you instead of addressing the contents of the posts. You seem precluded from participation without denigration of posters whose views are contrary to yours, and you attempt to avoid particularity by customarily diverting attention to an overall belief system.

You are quite consistent, and an unfailing source of amusement. I owe you. But how about introducing some variety in your approach. You know, spice it up. Demonstrate that you're capable of something other than a rote methodology. Provide a new and creative routine. Predictability becomes tedium.

" Predictability becomes tedium."

Trust me, Johnson, there is nothing, and I do mean nothing, more tedious than your endless pompous bloviation. In a perfect world, you would get carpal tunnel syndrome and we would be spared your gasbaggery. Not because you're an ultra-rightist, but because you're a fucking bore.

The NULLandVOID one....always wishing for his "perfect world". A world without a view in opposition to his own. ROFLMAO.

"In a perfect world, you would get carpal tunnel syndrome"

Yes, but in Nully's perfect world, the Health Ministry would take care of Johnson's CTS for free. Also, don't forget that there speech recognition sofware, don't you remember those commercials way back when showing people saying: "Now when I talk it types" and the computer type the phrase.

At least there would be less spelling mistakes if everyone in the DR used it and the spelling and grammar police would be put out of business.

Hans put himself on the grammar/spelling unemployment line.

"unemployment line"

Bush's fault!!! DR (TM) (Gee, now that we are all socialists, do we still believe in trademakrs and copyrights?).

Naw we don't, but using TM really irritates the NULLandVOID one...so keep using it.

NULLandVOID ride_on (TM)

Hope this helps.

The fact is I can't use TM in conjunction with NULLandVOID (and I've never saw them TM it). Hence, I don't. It was Billy'O'Crap'O's fellow DR Lefties that gave Billy the O'Crap'O' name and the NULLandVOID name. ROFLMAO, he's so bad, even they can't stand him (it).