I know a lot of Drudgies have been forwarding this theory for a while. Interesting read.

Been forwarding it for more than a year now. Sometimes it's no pleasure being right.

Guess it's easy to stop the fighting when one side has completely ethnic-cleased
the other side out of existence.

Guess it's easy to stop the fighting when one side has completely ethnic-cleased
the other side out of existence.

#3 | Posted by CalifChris

I knew one of you Lib were going to mis-understand the article. It's dishonest to spread mis-information, it's kind of stupid to not see through it, don't you think?

from another article --

"...In August 2006, Peter Galbraith, the former ambassador to Croatia, revealed that in the run-up to invading Iraq President Bush did not know that Muslims in the region were split into two sects, Shiites and Sunnis, and that these two sects had been in conflict for over a thousand years...."

The arrogant and ignorant Bush knew nothing about the country he attacked and has now unleased an ethnic-cleasing civil war. Millions of Iraq refugees are leaving their country and millions more are homeless in Iraq

Not in our name, Bush. No more Neocon wars in our country's name.
No more Neocons in office and that includes McCain/Palin.

Iraq is truning Bush's way and the liberal media has been trying to ignore it or twist it.

Guess it's easy to stop the fighting when one side has completely ethnic-cleased
the other side out of existence.

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Look also for: native americans, palestinians, etc, etc ,etc....

Iraq is truning Bush's way

"Some 70,000 former insurgents are now being paid $10 a day by the U.S. military"

The Bush way mercenaries and paying the insurgents. After all it's not his money...

On the dot zap.

If the demos paid people not to kill us the republicfuckers would be screaming APPEASEMENT from the top of the motherfucking empire state building.

Sometimes it's no pleasure being right

Damn staight.

Baghdad has been turned into an ethnically cleansed prison city and the powers-that-be wonder why Spud is not applaud them.

Clue to PTB from Spud.

Yer stratagery is not a winner.

From the growing refugee crisis in the region in the millions and the generational hate that that will inspire fer decades to come to the PTSD addled troops coming back after too many successive back-to-back tours (if they came back at all) to the growing extremism in Pakistan to the depleted treasury of the US it's not a winner.

And it aint sustainable ferever.

Learn that.

Be Well.

knew one of you Lib were going to mis-understand the article. It's dishonest to spread mis-information, it's kind of stupid to not see through it, don't you think?

#4 | Posted by Eddie

"Our findings suggest that the surge has had no observable effect, except insofar as it has helped to provide a seal of approval for a process of ethno-sectarian neighborhood homogenization that is now largely achieved," Agnew's team wrote in their report.

Agnew's team used publicly available infrared night imagery from a weather satellite operated by the U.S. Air Force."

which article were you reading? The one about lipstick on a pig?

which article were you reading? The one about lipstick on a pig?

The Scary Failin' article?

Be Well.

If the demos paid people not to kill us the republicfuckers would be screaming APPEASEMENT from the top of the motherfucking empire state building.

#9 | Posted by Shawn

you are just a bullshitter just like your buddy GWB! The point is you can't employ these tactics and then run aroungd saying the surge worked. Instead of sending more troops to die and get maimed, why didn't he just announce that the new strategy would be to pay the insurgents? If they were going to do it anyway, why not just announce it? I think more people would have approved this plan rather than sending more of our boys to die.

Nice try... But b.s.

Obama is stuck with opposing the surge, and no amt of posturing can change that fact.

The bs doesn't cover it.

"The BS doesn't cover it...."

The BS of this Iraq War is so thick and so layered it gets tiresome even looking at it.

However, this can be said---There was never a Surge in Iraq of the sort Petreus wanted.

Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors....

And the kurds had completed their ethnic cleansing before the surge.

Looks like Biden's vision of a tri-part Iraq is correct, as was Obama's timeline.

bte-Maliki is busy arresting and/or killing the sunni waker-uppers even as John McSurge brags how wonderfully short and cheap the war really was.

I realise that by your name 'geezer1', that you might be old, and may be losing your marbles, but you might try investing in a magnifying glass, or mabey hooked on phonics so that you can learn to read again.

Here let me help you with the first suggestion: GO FUCK YOURSELF!

We knew this two years ago. It's been obvious that the ethnic cleansing started on day 1 of the war.

When 2-3 thousand people a month were turning up beheaded in ditches in the summer of 2006, only the Bushlickers didn't know exactly what that was.

They murdered eachother until their neighborhoods were segregated, then they ran out of steam.

The surge troops quashed the violence further, but it was already on the way down. Firefighters showing up at a house that was already burned out.

And no, that doesn't disparage the troops, it disparages the Commander in Chief who waited 3 years too long.

that doesn't disparage the troops, it disparages the Commander in Chief who waited 3 years too long.

#18 | Posted by Norm_ at 2008-09-20 07:23 PM

exactly! and Obama calling Bush out on the piss poor strategy of "surging" five years into the conflict was a good call and still is.

Takitez, Eddie:
way to go; ignore the article completely. That's McPOW and PaLyin's strategy at work.

The point we dems have been making is: BushCo built the Berlin/Baghdad wall, played off ethnic cleansing, bribed the insurgents not to attack us, sent more troops in, then claimed that the troops alone have done the trick.

We ain't buyin' it.

And WHO is John Agnew - He is the Author of "Hegemony"

"Noted author John Agnew shows how American hegemony has created a world in which power is no longer only shaped territorially. He argues in a sobering conclusion that we are consequently entering a new era of global power, one in which the world the US has made no longer works to its singular advantage."

Basically he is just another anti-American professor with an anti-American book and if America actually accomplishes something it will prove him wrong. (yet again)

Why is there not just a little bit of background checks on the supposed "experts" as to the self serving bias in their conclusions.

"Ethnic Cleansing, Not Surge, Reduced Iraq Violence"

As my constipated aunt once said, "NO FUCKING SHIT"

Dumb...you are.

Do you think the "Cleansing" would have stopped if we had not stepped in? And notice the guy that wrote the article is about as Biased as they come.

But most of you on this site just say the same old things, don't do any research, follow the party lines. Ba Ba Ba....O BA MA...OOH BAAAMa

"Do you think the cleansing would have stopped had we not stepped in.....?"

It took us four years to "step in". Want to explain that?

Take four years to consider your response if you want, the same speed Bush reacted to military realities.

"Why is there so little background check on so-called experts....?"

And why aren't they required to join the National Socialist...Er....Republican Party before being issued writer's credentials?

...the National Socialist...Er....Republican Party...

It's that clear, isn't it?

which article were you reading? The one about lipstick on a pig?

#11 | Posted by geezer1

Geezer! Wake up!!!

ok. I was responding to Chris' response. OK?

Now, READ before responding, next time.

******It's dishonest to spread mis-information.....Posted by Eddie ******

......are you talking about Cheney's chat with Dick Armey ?.....

......or the whole bundle of lies that led us into this economy-killer war ?........

The article is an interesting angle to the boasts that the surge is a success.

Look also for: native americans, palestinians, etc, etc ,etc....

The only difference between our genocide of the native american and this is that we've found more subtle methods to wipe them out.

We didn't need to use violence to kill all of them. We just herded them onto reservations, gave them booze and disease.

One day America's chickens will truley come home to roost.

As for the palestinians, that's a whole other matter. Our support of Israel enables them to do what they wish to palestine.

I realise that by your name 'geezer1', that you might be old, and may be losing your marbles, but you might try investing in a magnifying glass, or mabey hooked on phonics so that you can learn to read again.

Here let me help you with the first suggestion: GO FUCK YOURSELF!

#17 | Posted by Shawn

I might be old (or at least getting there) but I am not retarded. You may want to learn how to read and not just look at the pictures like your hero GWB. YOU FUCKING MORON!

Now, READ before responding, next time.

#30 | Posted by Eddie

What do you take for? Stupid? Of course I knew you were responding to CC. That's why I posted. Because it was you who didn't read the article...at least the same article I read that said night satellite imaging before the surge pointed to ethnic cleansing in the Sunni neoghborhoods.

Drop dead old fart. Hurry up.

Hey FOSHITTER!
Got any more budget lies for me to disprove?

Or will you just troll now and again with your freshman-level intellect?

You Right Wing Pricks should read my writings I have been saying this for 6 Months. Its ethnic cleaning up, rape an Murder not the Surge that has kept the violence down.....Can the American People be more fucking stupid for buying this SHIT!!!

******* Can the American People be more fucking stupid for buying this SHIT!!!
..... Posted by celisary ******

.....there's over 40% support for McCain......

.......does that answer your question.?......

Drop dead old fart. Hurry up.

#36 | Posted by Shawn

Why don't you try to post something that shows actual intelligence instead of just insulting, and oh, BTW, GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER!!!

You Right Wing Pricks should read my writings I have been saying this for 6 Months. Its ethnic cleaning up, rape an Murder not the Surge that has kept the violence down.....Can the American People be more fucking stupid for buying this SHIT!!!

Maybe people would pay more attention to you if you managed to type coherently without all the caps and exclamation points.

Maybe if you hadn't marginalized yourself from the beginning, the people on your side of the political fence wouldn't think you're a fucking joke.

Maybe if just once you were capable of making the distinction between the word 'an' versus the word 'and', it would be worth the 30 seconds it takes to sort through your drivel; only to come to the same conclusion we always do. We just want the time back.

Seriously. It's one fucking letter. Please for the love of invisible sky wizard, press the "D" key.

Kissinger should be proud of his students...

what's the big deal?

this is akin to pentecostals taking out the baptists - there'd still be christians. we cannot ALL be right.

" we cannot ALL be right. "

Posted by nanc

You can all be wrong.

no but you can all be wrong.

beat ya!

dag nab it!

hahahahahaha

yeay! iraq is safe and secure

we only lost 4500 soldiers or so, 10's of thousands wounded and maimed.

and what $3trillion

for something, just cant figure out what it is.

this is akin to pentecostals taking out the baptists - there'd still be christians. we cannot ALL be right.

#43 | Posted by nanc

As long as there are still some Catholics in the world, yes, there would still be christians.

I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated...

...it succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.

--Barack Obama