Hagel: 'Stretch' to Call Palin Qualified

Chuck Hagel is the real Straight Talk Express.

If he was the GOP nominee it wouldn't even be close.

Of course, Cheney would have to be dethroned first for that to ever happen.

Hagel the selfish....

The disgruntled turncoat... made the wrong moves and getting worse. Now Hagel is a political football kicked by both dems and reps to score a goal.

Hagel's prospect for a cabinet post in the Obama admin seem to be dissipating and now he must destroy Sarah Palin to advance his own career.

"'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,'" he said. "That kind of thing is insulting to the American people."

Correction: It should be insulting to the American people. But you can't insult the intelligence of the willfully stupid.

"'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,'" he said. "That kind of thing is insulting to the American people."

Correction: It should be insulting to the American people. But you can't insult the intelligence of the willfully stupid.

#3 | Posted by Sully at 2008-09-19 08:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

Too funny. From palins home to russia is like looking at the pacific ocean from Salt lake city.

Hagel is one of very few Republicans left who gets close to the truth and isn't scared to say what he thinks.

By bringing Palin, McCain may have built some political capital among Catholic voters who are considered SWING.

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The 'I can see Russia'.... was meant to be a funny line and not meant to be a resume for foreign policy credential (and yes you can see Russia from Alaska ) --- and yet the dems have turned it into a tool against Palin. But this is political season and everything is open season for twisting. The reps do it to dems too.

Amen to that!

Hagel should have been picked to be McCain's #2. It would have grabed the thinking man's and thinking woman's attention. Now all McSame has to offer is a clinically depressed outlook on the world and a snarly, secretive, showboating sidekick who is an insult to the intelligence of the average voter.

" (and yes you can see Russia from Alaska) "

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The penalty for lying is 30 lashes or keelhauling. Your choice.

The beatings will continue until morale improves!

Hagel is our Lieberman, I always liked Hagel and Biden, believe it or not Biden reminds me of My dad, A good man, with a slight UN-PC speech pattern, his politics just suck. I always thought Hagel was a more cerebral farm boy. But he just needs to take the dems example and if you're a republican. Just support your party. I don't think Sarah is that qualified either. But look at the mess the "qualified , over educated morons have left us. Is 'Experience REALLY that necessary

Make that "...would have grabbed the thinking ..."; trying to get back to work and typed too fast.

Btw -- Silver ironist -- good points all. IMHO, Cheney's people were deeply involved in the Sarah teh incompetent selection and they are coaching her all the way. If I were McSame, I'd be very, very afraid ... Cheney's behind the scenes power is frightening, and Cheney's greed for more wealth from ANWR and oil and gas is palpable. No wonder Cheney's buddies like Limbaugh and Kristol lobbied McSame to select her... There's a lot to Cheney's advantage in Palin's rise in prominence.

obama's credentials are he was a comunity organizer. He has never had a real job in his entire life. He has never had a job where he alone had to make decisions. He can't even see most of the US from his house but he is an expert on that.

Who is inexperienced?

Keep talkin' Chuck! Keep playing the centrist! (really a LibDem). Hope that truck runs you over soon!

It's tough being a person with a mind, that suddenly finds himself a member of a party that doesn't seem to want or need a mind.

"But look at the mess the "qualified , over educated morons have left us."

Seriously? Bush is over-educated?

Being at school and learning something are sometimes two different things.

The 'I can see Russia'.... was meant to be a funny line and not meant to be a resume for foreign policy credential (and yes you can see Russia from Alaska ) --- and yet the dems have turned it into a tool against Palin

Bullshit. McSame used it, Pat Buchanan used it and Newt Gingrich used it. 60% of the voters realize she's not qualified. Suck it up, she was chosen to placate the talibaptists like Dobson and because McSame has nothing else new to offer.

And obama has anymore experience? Get real.

Screechy voiced fundamentalist whipped ExxonMobil into line. So they're promoting her out of there.

As a community organizer, Obama had to start from the ground up. He was a 2-term Illinois State Senator, spent 2 years in the US Senate, has proven himself intelligent and charismatic, winning the support of both Republicans and Democrats. Uhh, yeah, I think Mr. Obama's experienced.

What about that crazy lady from Alaska?

Attack Obama for being inexperienced before, but now that Palin's the veep nominee, experience doesn't matter. Hmm. Smells like waffles.

I wanted Obama to pick Hagel as his VP. Biden's a good choice, but Hagel would have been an awesome choice. Now I'm holding out for Sec of Defense.

Hegel was my choice as Obama's VP. That's change I can believe in.

Attack Obama for being inexperienced before, but now that Palin's the veep nominee, experience doesn't matter. Hmm. Smells like waffles.

#18 | Posted by Scrumplet at 2008-09-19 11:19 AM | Reply

Uhhhh dummy, it was the libs that said experience doesn't matter. In fact, it was said that it was good to have a new and fresh perspective and a Washington Outsider. Do you actually remember the Primaries? You know, Clinton vs Obama? You know, the Hillary Dems claiming Obama lacked experience and the Obama jockstraps claiming it was insignificant?

It all changed when Obama's campaign and surrogates claimed that all of that was a negative in regards to Palin.

"Who is inexperienced?

#11 | Posted by Sniper"

You.

everytime I read about hagel I laugh because its funny
its funny because of the comments I remember reading here from this sanctuary of "DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT" known as a liberal site when the name LIEBERMAN is brought up.....

more typical liberal hypocritical jibberish

I dont recall hagel being taken off a committee because of his views on issues counter to the RNC

Uhhhh dummy, it was the libs that said experience doesn't matter...

Posted by 101Chairborn

Nope. Libs said what was true, Obama does have the experience to be president. That he doesn't was a lie used by HRC and then McCain.... until the moment he picked Palin. Then McCain lied about Palin's experience while his supporters tried the laughable argument that Palin has more experience to be president than Obama.

obama's credentials are he was a comunity organizer. He has never had a real job in his entire life. He has never had a job where he alone had to make decisions. He can't even see most of the US from his house but he is an expert on that.

Who is inexperienced?

#11 | Posted by Sniper at 2008-09-19 09:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama has never had a real job?

You do know that he became a lawyer and is a Professor of Constitutional Law, right?

Here's the reusme for you:

Education
Undergraduate

Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA
Undergraduate, 1981-1983

Columbia University
B.A. Political Science with specialization in international relations
Thesis topic: Soviet nuclear disarmament
Graduate

Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991

President, Harvard Law Review
Organizing and other work experience

* 1983-1984 Writer/Researcher for Business International Corporation. Helped companies understand overseas markets in the "Financing Foreign Operations" service and wrote for the "Business International Money Report"

* 1984-1985 Community Organizer for New York Public Interest Research Group (PIRG), promoting personal, community, and government reform at City College in Harlem.

* 1985-1988 Director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland on Chicago's South Side. While director grew the DCP staff from 1 to 13 and their budget from $70,000 to $400,000.

* 1992 Led Chicago's Project Vote! push. This effort resulted in a record number of voter registrations, over 600,000 in Chicago. 1)

Teaching

* 1993-2004 Visiting Law and Government Fellow, then Senior Lecturer, in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. Taught courses on the due process and equal protection areas of constitutional law, on voting rights, and on racism and law. Helped develop a casebook on voting rights.

Law Practice

* 1993-2002 Worked as an associate attorney with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Represented non-profits and private individuals in urban development projects, voting rights cases, and wrongful firings. Filed major suit that forced the state of Illinois to enforce the Motor Voter Law and successfully argued a wrongful firing case before the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals.

Illinois Senate 1996-2004

* Chairman, Health and Human Services Committee

United States Senate 2004-present

* Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
* Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs
* Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
* Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
* Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs
* Shares responsibility for the bipartisan Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006, requiring full online disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds, and the bipartisan Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, deepening non-proliferation work with WMD and including surface-to-air missiles, land mines, and other weapons that may be used by terrorists. Also worked with Coburn to end the abuse of no-bid contracts in the wake of disasters.

Experience, understanding and curiousity are important matters.

One candidate has tremendous life experiences having been raised by a single mom in less than privileged sircumstances, succeeding in a variety of settings where he was potentially the odd man out, and eventually gaining recognition by his peers at Harvard Law School by being elected at editor of the Law Review. Since then he has worked to bring into the mainstream some of Chicago's most disenfranchised citizens. He is articulate, thoughtful, compassionate, but he doesn't have any military experience...

The other candidate was a legacy appointee to Annapolis, barely succeeded there, graduated near the bottom of his class, and had an unspectacular career until his plane was caught fire on the Kitty Hawk, and he acted heroically to save other's from the inferno. Shortly after that he was imprisoned when his new aircraft was downed over Vietnam, and his leadership was inspiring. But in recent years he has become a shill for the neocons who created a number of messes, and he now shows little compassion for the middle class and less fortunate.

On the bottom of the ticket is a guy who has 30+ years Senate experience, and is Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, a committe that he has been on for most of his career. He has a bachelors degree on poli-sci and historu from the one undergrad school he attended (Delaware) and a law degree from the one law school he attended (Syracuse).

The other bottom of the ticket is an untested, self-described "pit bull with lipstick", known for kicking her allies down the stairs and for her sharp language and incompetent ability to manage government finances. She acts as if all her life is some sort of survival reality TV show, popped in and out of 6 different colleges to eventiually get a bachelors degree in tv journalism. As a tiny town's mayor, she left a formerly debt-free small town with a debt-burden equal to about $16,000 per family and a public facility that no one is sure who really has clear title. Oh, and she just got her first passport a year ago, but because she says she can "see Russia" from her window, she has foreign affairs experience.

Experience, understanding and curiousity are important matters.

One candidate has tremendous life experiences having been raised by a single mom in less than privileged circumstances, succeeding in a variety of settings where he was potentially the odd man out, and eventually gaining recognition by his peers at Harvard Law School by being elected at editor of the Law Review. Since then he has worked to bring into the mainstream some of Chicago's most disenfranchised citizens. He is articulate, thoughtful, compassionate, but he doesn't have any military experience. ...

The other candidate was a legacy appointee to Annapolis, who barely succeeded there, graduated near the bottom of his class, and had an unspectacular career until his plane was caught fire on the Kitty Hawk. Then he acted heroically to save other's from the inferno. Shortly after that he was imprisoned when his new aircraft was downed over Vietnam, and his leadership in that crucible was inspiring. But in recent years he has become a shill for the neocons who created a number of messes, and he now shows little compassion for the middle class and less fortunate.

At the other half ot the ticket is a guy who has 30+ years Senate experience, and is Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, a committe that he has been on for most of his career. He has a bachelors degree on poli-sci and historu from the one undergrad school he attended (Delaware) and a law degree from the one law school he attended (Syracuse).

The bottom of the other ticket is an untested, self-described "pit bull with lipstick", known for kicking her allies down the stairs and for her sharp language and incompetent ability to manage government finances. She acts as if all her life is some sort of survival reality TV show, popped in and out of 6 different colleges to eventiually get a bachelors degree in tv journalism. As a tiny town's mayor, she left a formerly debt-free small town with a debt-burden equal to about $16,000 per family and a public facility that no one is sure who really has clear title. Oh, and she just got her first passport a year ago, but because she says she can "see Russia" from her window, she has foreign affairs experience.

Experience, understanding and curiousity are important matters.

Commonsense you forgot he was head of that committee on Afghanistan of which he has never held a meeting.

I guess it just slipped your mind douchebag.

Also how many of those committee meetings has he missed trying to be Potus?

Obama is a joke and he is the head of your ticket.

Theo Nebs, the slimer, Pato Gato try to deflect the obvious with slurs of Obama, but this fact (FACT!) remains: Chuck Hagel is the last Republican with a conscience. He challenged the busher about the war, and if he has any real sense, he will come around to the Light Side, Luke. herm

Look if you libs are constantly going to call Palin, that "crazy lady" from Alaska, or "White Trash" or some other vile name becuase you don't like here politics...Here's what OBAMA is

1. America-hating, Muslim loving radical who hates Whitey and stole the election for state senate in Chicago.

2. Agrees with that idiot basketball player who yestersday was on Video stating, he doesn't "do" the national Anthem, because he is Black..That is what Obama thinks.

3.who took money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to protect them form Federal regulation, and allowed their CEO's to walk away with Millions after running it into the gorund

4. Has a soft spot for muslims, because they hate america...LIKE BLACKS DO,

5.Has People Like Wright, Farrakhan as "mentors" and "Spiritual advisors" to sharpen his "hate-america" skills

6. Is a coke-head, Just like you guys said Bush was...Only Obama admitted it.

7.Obama Voted Liberal Democrat line and will never do anything to help the working people, he l.oathes working people, especially white working people, "they cling t0 religion, bigotry and guns"

so Lets see who can say the most vile things about a politician just because you diusagree with them, and you have a little taste of what it is like.

"so Lets see who can say the most vile things about a politician just because you diusagree with them, and you have a little taste of what it is like."

OK but what does any of this have to do with Palin being an igorant, vindictive, lying bitch?

"OK but what does any of this have to do with Palin being an igorant, vindictive, lying bitch?"

And what's worse, those are her good points!

The hillbilly posted seven points, which is probably as far as he (?) can count; not one has any truth.

The hillbilly would try to deflect some realistic criticisms of his (?) people by repeating the most outrageous and discredited slanders perpetrated yet against our next president, Barack Obama.

Muslim radical, hating America, "coke-head" and worst of all, liberal Democrat. Cheez. Hilly crawled out of his hole, shit on my carpet and expects to run without cleaning up the mess. herm

"Who is inexperienced?

#11 | Posted by Sniper"

You.

#22 | Posted by Dumb_as_Rocks

Don't look now but I'm not running for president.

I see by your response, you see the truth in my post. Obama is lying about his associations, He is lying about his "advisors" involvement in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Which by the way have had the nickname for years "Where democrats go to get rich". He is lying baout how he actually feels about white working class, His Wife is defiently Lying. Obama in 4 short years took more money than other senators in 20 years from FAnnie Mae and Freddie Mac, he Basically was given a 1.4 million dollar home from a corrupt mafiaosa, Resnik and is a typical Liberal elite who thinks because he went to an Ivy league scchool , the rest of us Rubes have to do what he says, because us drooling, illiterate, mindless "bigots' Can't take care of ourselves.

He is going to lose if the Leftie press ever truly reports about his past.

I hope he does just so i can see you weak-minded libs go into a frenzy and hopefully most of you will suck on the business end of a .357 magnum

#35 | Posted by HillBillyJihad

Don't hold back. Tell us how you realy feel.

"Palin killed Wasilla's Lake Lucille: www.salon.com

Great going Piranah Barracuda! taking care of your own back yard just as if it really doesn't matter!

Well if you don't do that, you will do all that "I am moving to Canada' crap or "the election was stolen" whining" and I don't want to hear it, If Snobama wins, I just go on working hard, supporting my country and hoping he doesn't screw things up too bad. But if you did blow your brains out, I certainly wouldn't cry for you. Libs always take the cowards way out

From the article:

... the lake Sarah Palin lives on is dead.

... "Sarah's legacy as mayor was big-box stores and runaway growth. The truth is, Wasilla is just plain ugly, it's not a pleasant place to live. It's not thought out. And that's a shame.

"Sarah fouled her own nest, and I can't understand why. I hate to think it was simply greed or ambition."

Among the environmental casualties of Wasilla's frenzied development was Palin's own front yard, Lake Lucille.

... Wasilla, where Palin grew up and still resides, sprawls between two lakes -- Lucille and Wasilla Lake. Cottonwood Creek, which flows in and out of Wasilla Lake, has also been labeled "impaired" by state environmental officials, after foam was detected on the water surface and subsequent testing found excessive concentrations of fecal coliform bacteria.

The two lakes are the town jewels, the only eye relief along a harrowing corridor of strip malls, big-box stores and fast-food drive-throughs that is Wasilla. "Lord, help me get through Wasilla," reads one Alaska bumper sticker.

The population in Mat-Su Valley began booming in the 1970s with the Alaska oil pipeline and the influx of oil workers from Texas and Oklahoma. But while some valley towns tried to control growth -- like nearby Palmer, which was originally settled by Midwest farmers as part of a Roosevelt social experiment in the 1930s -- Wasilla took a frontier, boom-town approach. Soon the Parks Highway, which cuts straight through Wasilla, and its arteries were lined with a chaotic bazaar of quickie espresso shacks, moose-stuffing taxidermists, Bible churches, gun stores, tattoo and piercing parlors, mattress barns and the inevitable box stores with their football-field parking lots.

John Stein, Palin's predecessor as Wasilla mayor, tried gamely to get a handle on the commercial free-for-all. He made an effort to restore the health of Lake Lucille, which, he said, "was turning into a bog."

"We brought up a scientist to study both lakes," Stein recalled. "We also worked with the state to filter storm drainage from the highway."

Controlling runoff from the six-lane highway is a key to saving the lakes in Wasilla. Other cities have their industrial pollution problems; Wasilla has highway pollution. "Anything that comes off an automobile -- oil, antifreeze, de-icing agents, heavy metals -- all of that can run off into the lakes when it rains," observed Archie Giddings, Wasilla's public works director.

... "Sarah was so eager for big-box stores to move in that she allowed Fred Meyer to build right on Wasilla Lake, and her handpicked successor, Dianne Keller, has done the same with Target."

... "Sarah was such a great cheerleader for Wasilla, but she did nothing to protect its beauty. She'd go to these Chamber of Commerce meetings and say, 'Wasilla is the most beautiful place in the world!' And we'd just sit there gagging."

A city official in nearby Palmer, who has lived in the Mat-Su Valley his whole life, sadly admitted: "Sarah sent the growth into overdrive. And now they're choking on traffic and sprawl, all built on their ignorance and greed.

You'll like this one, TC

"Palin's hometown legacy left trail of legal bills"

edition.cnn.com

"If Snobama wins, I just go on working hard, supporting my country and hoping he doesn't screw things up too bad."

Realistically, what could he do that would produce worse results than what Bush's policies have brought us? He can't possibly spend more than Bush so all those entitlement programs he loves are just pipe dreams (and still a better uses of our money than the Iraq War). He's not going to start wars over imaginary threats. What could he realistically get away with that would be worse than the last eight years?

If eight years ago someone told you all the shit that Bush would fuck up, you'd say there is no way such a president could last one term, let alone two. If you put a foreign spy in the office of POTUS with the goal of fucking over Americans, he wouldn't have dared to even try to screw us over as bad as Bush has for fear of being exposed as a traitor.

I can't picture McCain being nearly as bad either unless he croaks or goes senile.

***Hagel the selfish....
The disgruntled turncoat...
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........putting country ahead of party is neither selfish nor turncoat.......

But he just needs to take the dems example and if you're a republican. Just support your party. I don't think Sarah is that qualified either. But look at the mess the "qualified , over educated morons have left us. Is 'Experience REALLY that necessary

#9 | Posted by HillBillyJihad

Suuuuure..."Country First" for all those Repubs.

Let's not forget Palin's love of torturing wildlife in Alaska. She is a strong proponent of the aerial hunting of wolves and other endangered species. She wants to offer (or IS offering - I'm not clear on that) a bounty for the foreleg of every wolf killed. Defenders of Wildlife is currently running ads in Ohio and Florida, with plans to expand the ad into Michigan, that shows an aerial wolf hunt. These are not clean kills and there is no way this could be considered sport. It is torture and slaughter. The animal is often shot numerous times before it dies, causing exteme agony. The hunts take place in the winter when the wolf is easily visible.

Palin seems to love destroying the beauty that is Alaska. She lives on the banks of a dead lake that she is responsible for killing due to her legacy of uncontrolled growth in Wasilla. Wasilla itself was turned into a mecca for big box stores and strip malls. When she became mayor of Wasilla the town had zero debt. When she left, she left behind 22 million dollars of debt despite asking for 24 million dollars in federal pork barrel aid. She built a sports arena on land that was still owned by someone else and the town is still footing the legal bills for that fight, which is ongoing at this time. She attempted to ban books in the Wasilla library and tried to have the librarian fired when the woman refused to cooperate. As governor, she exercised a line-item veto which significantly cut the budgets of homes for unwed mothers in Alaska. These facilities not only provide shelter for unwed expectant teens and women in need, but also give them 18 months of shelter and job training once the baby is born. Luckily, Palin's daughter is not in need of this service and apparently Palin feels no compunction to aid other peoples' children who DO need a service like this. Palin speaks out on the need for expanded services for children with special needs but cut the funding for the Special Olympics in Alaska. Palin received her first passport last year. She was caught lying about visiting Iraq - McBush's team finally admitted she did not cross the Kuwait border into Iraq ever. She also fudged the truth about visiting Ireland - her plane stopped in Ireland to refuel and she never left the plane during that refueling stop. She has absolutely NO foreign policy experience, had no idea what the Bush Doctrine meant or was all about and has no business being in the running for vice president of the United States. Her selection was a purely political, cynical attempt to garner the vote of a certain segment of the population. Oh - and she thinks because some witch-hunting preacher laid hands on her and prayed over her, she is now destined to become president of the United States. Yesterday, during a speech, she referred to the "Palin-McCain administration". And I don't think that was even a Freudian slip. By what possible stretch of the imagination could this woman seriously be thought to be qualified to hold the second highest office of the land????

Obama is lying about his associations, He is lying about his "advisors" involvement in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

#35 | Posted by HillBillyJihad

Gee, HBJ, I hope the McCrash campaign does try to bring out any associations that Obama had with Fannie and Freddie execs. That will just give a chance to revisit the Keating 5

I don't think anyone is thinking about the Keating 5 right now, So I say "bring it on"

I have noticed Obama's dethly silence since McCain mentioned this morning, Obama's involvement and how much money he took and his democrat buddies took while running Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae into the ground

Mcsame has decades of Washington experience. Unfortunately, he has spent his entire campaign admitting he never did anything right in those decades.

"I can't fuck up any worse than I already have" is hardly a great campaign slogan.

Obama is being pressured by his folks to get tough.... and he has some lies of his own: but they will not be pointed out by the biased and hysterical ladies of THE VIEW.

And the biased liberal media will try to hide them..... while continuing to hunt down Palin.

Good thing she got a breather on Fox to correct and sanitize the biases thrown at her by the hostile liberal media.

Commonsense you forgot he was head of that committee on Afghanistan of which he has never held a meeting.

I guess it just slipped your mind douchebag.

Also how many of those committee meetings has he missed trying to be Potus?

Obama is a joke and he is the head of your ticket.

#28 | Posted by Flopearsistoast at 2008-09-19 12:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well, 'Douchebag', my post was in response to Snippy's which claimed that Obama has never held a 'real job'.

Seems I blew that line of bullshit of his right out of the water and made you look like a tard in the process.

Thanks for playing! Keep sticking your nose in when you have no idea what the response was to. It makes you seem really smart that way!