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Howard, an Obama supporter, is no fan of the Star Spangled Banner, because he's black.

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for shizzle?

Why does america hate black people?

Oh wait, I meant: Why do black people hate america?

Why does 101 hate?

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Another Obama Supporter.

FALSE HEADLINE ALERT!

Based on 101 reasoning I guess I could say "Whites, love McCain, hates Blacks, Hispanics, Catholics and Jews.

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Another 101 supporter

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Based on 101 reasoning I guess I could say "Whites, love McCain, hates Blacks, Hispanics, Catholics and Jews.


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#5 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2008-09-18 09:55 AM | Re


Hey, your link says it was a close vote. So your headline would be mis-leading...

Can anyone even understand what that marble mouth said? I can't tell if he said "Vote Obama" or "Fuck yo momma".

www.youtube.com

Why does John McCain hate Spain?

www.huffingtonpost.com


Why does John McCain hate Spain?


www.huffingtonpost.com

#9 | Posted by silver_ironist at 2008-09-18 10:21 AM | Reply


I don't know. Why would anyone even have an opinion on such a worthless irrelevant nation?

I recently heard "lift every voice and sing" (aka the black national anthem) for the first time.

I think that the lyrics are more appropriate than ones that essentially glorify war.

And I can see where black people are coming from when the Star Spangled Banner celebrates the American Revolution, an event that did nothing for them.

an event that did nothing for them.

#11 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

So, creating the greatest nation in the world in which to live in did nothing for them?

And I can see where black people are coming from when the Star Spangled Banner celebrates the American Revolution, an event that did nothing for them.

#11 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

Maybe it should be included as an audio chip attached to their welfare checks. Maybe then they'd show some appreciation.

So, creating the greatest nation in the world in which to live in did nothing for them?

#12 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

Jeez, cid. I'm speachless.

Anybody, of any color, who's an American and doen't like our national anthem should just get the hell out of our county.

Howard is quoted as saying about our national anthem he "doesn't like this [expletive deleted] because I'm black" should leave on the first boat or plane to another country.
Other blacks who do not feel this way -- and I'm sure there are many -- should speak out against blacks who are so anti-American.

Do we have to listen to blacks whine forever about slavery that happened more than 150 years ago and which slavery also took place in Mexico and other parts of Latin America the same time as it did here and in even greater extent numbers (although no one ever mentions that fact).

Blacks who hate this country should get over it or get out.
The Civil Rights movement took place over 40 years ago and laws were passed granting equal rights for all yet they are still keep on complaining today.

delete = "extent"

"Hey, your link says it was a close vote. So your headline would be mis-leading"

101, that's the best self-retorting retort that I've seen in quite a while.

Wow, what an important issue.

I mean just... wow.

How can Obama ever survive this?

He should just quit right now.

How can Obama ever survive this?

Posted by 726

I hope he doesn't have a tanning bed and a yahoo email account.

I think the title should change....

He's only earning $10 Million a year....
cbs11tv.com

I can understand why he's upset......
www.youtube.com

"an event that did nothing for them."



You ARE kiddin here...right?

101, that's the best self-retorting retort that I've seen in quite a while.

#17 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2008-09-18 11:12 AM | Reply


Really? I was thinking that it was sarcastic in nature and that it flew right over your head.

Maybe if Ludacris did a remake of "Da Star-Spangled Banna," this wouldn't be a problem.

You ARE kiddin here...right?

#21 | Posted by kerrin57

Considering that it took 70 years after the fact to even be considered a person in the eyes of the law and then another 90+ years after that to even begin to see that legal recognition realized, no, I'm not kidding.

I wonder what the over/under on the number of guns, oz's of weed, and electronic ankle monitoring bracelets that were at that charity event whose purpose was to raise scholarship money for predominantly black colleges?

The combined worth of the black thugs at that event was made possible because they live in America.

Considering that it took 70 years after the fact to even be considered a person in the eyes of the law and then another 90+ years after that to even begin to see that legal recognition realized, no, I'm not kidding.

Enough already! Steele is right.


townhall.com

"The combined worth of the black thugs at that event was made possible because they live in America."


There you go Hag!

"The combined worth of the black thugs at that event was made possible because they live in America."

There you go Hag!

#27 | Posted by kerrin57

Chair's chairiness aside, it's like saying that they should be happy with what we're willing to give them, regardless of the fact that this nation was built on their backs.

Considering that it took 70 years after the fact to even be considered a person in the eyes of the law and then another 90+ years after that to even begin to see that legal recognition realized, no, I'm not kidding.

#24 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2008-09-18 11:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

Since you can;t seem to grasp the obvious there, Hags, let me spell out for you what everyone else has been hinting.

America was the first country to take a fighting stand against black slavery. I know it's popular to think America was the only consumer of slaves, but it's just not true. America was the only country that was willing to tear itself in half over black freedom. America is the only country that was founded on the principles of freedom and equality. It took them a little but so the fuck what? It took them a while to recognize women as well, but it got done. The day America was founded on the words it was used was the same day that black freedom from slavery was set into motion.

This overpaid sack of shit would do well to remember that, in many other countries, including his beloved Africa, he would just be another common street thug.

Or worse, a soccer player. :)

"America was the first country to take a fighting stand against black slavery."

Another F in World History.

"America was the first country to take a fighting stand against black slavery."

Another F in World History.

#30 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2008-09-18 12:27 PM | Reply | Flag

Yeah? who else took to arms en masse over it, smartass?

And I don't want you coming back with some shit about some island about the size of New Hampshire. I want you to name a fullblown country that went to war over it.

Cause it sure as hell wasn't Africa itself. Africa was STILL practicing slavery and selling slaves well into the 1830's. Some 20 odd years after America had made it illegal to import more slaves.

5 minutes later, you shoulda been able to come up with a response by now. Had to run to Wikipedia and start digging, didn't ya? Finding out "Holy shit, America WAS the first place to go to arms over it!" aren't you?

The Civil War wasn't all about slavery...oh, what's the use? Go on being stupid.

The Civil War was about States Rights--the States wanted the right to own slaves.

Nothing more.

why is going to arms over it such an important point to you?

America was NOT the first nation to make slavery illegal.

America wasn't the second or third nation to do so either. And those nations didn't HAVE TO go to war to accomplish that. The wisdom of ending the practice became self evident. You should be lamenting the fact we had to kill one another in this country to make it happen, not celebrating it.

Though Africa was still practicing slavery in the 1830's, so was the US. Who cares if they were importing or not importing? there were enough slaves in the US that the south didn't NEED TO import.

And more importantly, slavery as done in the US was vastly different from slavery as done in Africa.

"America was the first country to take a fighting stand against black slavery."


The US had to fight a war in order to get rid of slavery.
Something some other countries managed to do without tearing their nation apart.
If you don't get a massive body count when you set about doing something, it just isn't worth doing.
~Soheifux

The Civil War wasn't all about slavery...oh, what's the use? Go on being stupid.

#35 | Posted by LeeAtwater at 2008-09-18 12:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Confederates declared themselves their own country OVER SLAVERY. The North stopped them from seceding. If the South's reason for secession was slavery.. and it really, really was, then that means the North came and beat their asses.. over what? That's right, slavery. But I know, I remember when the idiot movement started amongst the klan types trying to rewrite history was.

I love how all these writing by Lincoln about how he wanted to send the blacks back to Africa keep popping up. Except they're always debunked. Been debunked every time. Get over it, you racist asshat. Blacks are here to stay, and the Confederates were evil bastards to them. That flag is not about state's rights, independence, or any of those things. It's about the glory of slavery. No matter how much you want to rewrite history.

Wow, hags. Way to duck the question while MAKING MY POINT.

America had a large concentration of racist asshats. It did. IT STILL DOES. Do you know what happened in these countries where it was resolvced peacefully? Those who continued to want to keep slaves simply DID SO. They just called it "indentured servitude" and "bonded labourers" Slavery in THAt form _STILL_ exists in many countries slavery used to exist.

America, rather then look the other way and let this abomination continue to happen under a different name, WENT TO WAR OVER IT. Do you understand the difference? I know it's hard to accept that America just might be _right_ about something, but this is definitely one of those things. Do you understand? I can go almost anywhere else in the world and still buy a slave! Legally! I just buy their bond, and I own that person!

Can you do that in America? Or did we try to end it peacefully, find out that half of our people weren't going to listen to reason, and then take the regretful step of tearing ourselves in half over black freedom?

Informative link for people who seem to think America is so evil for taking so long to become the leader in Black freedoms:

www.infoplease.com

"I know it's hard to accept that America just might be _right_ about something.."

Don't play that game, fox. ascribing points of view to me for which I give no evidence of holding.

But as to your overall argument, the fruits of that war you celebrate.... when did those slaves for whom it was fought see the benefit? Statistically speaking, none of them did. Some of their grandchildren did in their old age. And that had much more to do with the SCOTUS than it did with any wars fought.

The ballplayer may have skills that are marketable at a relatively high price in the U.S. at this point in time when sports are a diversion.

He doesn't appreciate the opportunity to have a market for those skill sets.

His information may cause him to revile this country. He does not seem to have a satisfied mind. No one knows just what the world looks like to him, how intelligent he is, and other aspects of his being.

What he says "does not compute" with what he does. As uncongenial as he declares he seems to find America, still he avails himself of the opportunity to be here and live life here.

From the limited history of his activities, he seems to be maladjusted, and fortunate that he possesses marketable skills that inure him from the vicissitudes of daily life as they affect most blacks.

Although I view Obama as an abomination, I wouldn't charge Obama with the ideas of this misfit, whose probably suffers from a far more limited intelligence than Obama, and so lives in a different conceptual world than Obama.

But as to your overall argument, the fruits of that war you celebrate.... when did those slaves for whom it was fought see the benefit? Statistically speaking, none of them did. Some of their grandchildren did in their old age. And that had much more to do with the SCOTUS than it did with any wars fought.

#42 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2008-09-18 01:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

So what? It happened, didn't it? It happened here and it didn't have to happen. Years ago I wanted to say "America never had to take these steps at all" But then I remembered... yes. Yes America DID. We were founded on principles that forbid these things. Freedom and equality were slow coming, but they were inevitable. On the day America was created, all of these things were set into motion. Do you get it now? Does it make sense to you? It took time, it was a long, painful process, but the day America was founded was the first seed planted in the movement of black freedom.

Black people have as much reason to celebrate our flag, and our national anthem, as does every other person alive in this country right now. This country is not perfect, but we're working towards it. And those documents written here way back then? Those have been, and always will be, the framework by which we move towards the ideals those documents stand for.

Are the Irish supposed to not celebrate the anthem because of the hideous wrongs America did to them in the past(legalized hiring and housing discrimination)? Are the Chinese (indentured servants)? Are blacks at large(legalized slavery)? Hell no. certain freedoms and equalities took longer to get there then others, but they're all getting there.

America is constantly working on improving itself. Or does it make sense to you to scorn a man because of what he did when he was 12? Do you hate someone forever for mistakes they made, or do you love them despite their flaws, and try to make them into better people? Or maybe it's better to keep bitching endlessly about what the man did when he was 12, and never give him credit for being mature enough to grow beyond that point?

As for blacks not liking America, the opportunities that blacks have here far surpasses that which almost anyone, particularly blacks, have elsewhere. Living conditions in Africa are not good. And countries which have endured liberation from colonialism and have instituted black rule are like Zimbabwe, or on the way there since black governance cannot seem to function except when ensconced in a context with white support. In Africa, the Chinese now are entering, substituting for whites, and providing the intelligence and stability necessary to enable some of those countries to maintain themselves.

Blacks are dependent people, and may revile themsleves for their inability to function independently at a level comparable to that of many other countries.

Blacks in the U.S., except for those endowed with athletic prowess, or entertainment skills, or who are political demagogues, or some relatively few in other enterprises, are an underclass, dependent on whites for sustaining them, and all are dependent on the white generated societal matrix in which they function.. Blacks are conspicuously the indigent welfare class, and the violent criminal class, in this country for whom accord of special privileges for decades, overall has accomplished naught.

Sure, viewing yourself as inept and a failure because of your intrinsic nature can make you bitter. So, hating America for being your benefactor is understandable. Many blacks have turned against Jews, who were in the vanguard of the civil rights movement with two of the three boys killed in Mississippi registering black voters, being Jews. And yet, nowadays, Jews bear the brunt of vindictiveness of black demagogues such as Jesse (Hymietown) Jackson, and "Bullhorn" Al (burn down the Jew store) Sharpton. Blacks resent many things, and possibly those that portray them as unable to successfully fend for themselves, are particularly irritating to them. It is demeaning and such a realization can be offputting.

#44 | Posted by soheifox

Then celebrate what the man does as an adult, not what the child of 12 did.

Jimi Hendrix was a black man who apparently liked the SSB pretty well. Actually, he improved on it.

Uh, guys, this was a thread specifically designed to add nothing but racist innuendo and make the ridiculous attempt to link bad things to Obama.

If you want to have a real discussion do it on another thread. If you want to taunt with veiled racially charged remarks then this is your place.

Thanks,
Chairborne

PS-If Obama is elected people like Howard will be in appointed to be your community representative.

PPS-Grape Soda

Jimi Hendrix was a black man who apparently liked the SSB pretty well. Actually, he improved on it.

#47 | Posted by grumpy_too

That he did. But at least he didn't sing the words while he played.

PPS-Grape Soda

#48 | Posted by 101Chairborne

You ahole... lol.

Then celebrate what the man does as an adult, not what the child of 12 did.

#46 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2008-09-18 01:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

...way to completely screw up an analogy, Hags. It's YOU who wants blacks to roll around constantly in what the country did while growing up. I want us to celebrate what the country was born to do and is still working towards achieving.

No I don't, I just don't think they have to pretend like it never happened just to make some people feel better.

No I don't, I just don't think they have to pretend like it never happened just to make some people feel better.

#52 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2008-09-18 02:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

No you don't. Your statements here have made that clear. You believe that black people should not honour this country, simply because there was a wrong once commited that was later righted, and so many died to right.

You believe that black people shouldn't care that the very birth of this country afforded them what they have now.

"And I can see where black people are coming from when the Star Spangled Banner celebrates the American Revolution, an event that did nothing for them."

....Blacks resent many things, and possibly those that portray them as unable to successfully fend for themselves, are particularly irritating to them. It is demeaning and such a realization can be offputting.

#45 | Posted by Johnson at 2008-09-18 01:32 PM | Reply

Johnson you are such an old fogey. As well as tempting me to ignore your rants as I so often do, I just wish you would get a new line. What do you think Obama represents, if not a "new" kind of black man?

He is going to be the next President of the United States of America.

What the hell makes you such a confident authority on the subject anyway?

But I'm not sure we want or need to know.

What do you think Obama represents, if not a "new" kind of black man?

#54 | Posted by sitdown at 2008-09-18 02:21 PM | Reply

So he's clean, articulate, educated, and non-violent.
What does that say for the others if he's the "new" black man (in your opinion)?

You believe that black people should not honour this country, simply because there was a wrong once commited that was later righted, and so many died to right.

First of all don't put words in my mouth. I never said that. Saying that I can see where somebody is coming from does not necessarily translate to I agree with somebody's point of view.

But I have no problem understanding that the wrong has not yet been righted. in process, sure, arguably, but I also have no problem understanding that, Obama presidency or no, people's patience can be wearing real f'ing thin in that respect.

For god's sake, fox, you live in a beautiful part of the country, but you and I know how completely, unashamedly white it is. I'll agree that the promise is no longer deferred when a black family can move there and be accepted. when 100 or 1000 can without your neighbors (and maybe some of your friends) donning the hood.

Why does John McCain hate Spain?


www.huffingtonpost.com

#9 | Posted by silver_ironist

Call it a "Senior" moment...he got confused-someone said Spain, and he thought they'd said "Spam"...


After all-daddy force fed him spam as a child.
(He was a pow, you know..of course,he was a pow BEFORE he was a pow, but-what the hell)

"First of all don't put words in my mouth. I never said that. Saying that I can see where somebody is coming from does not necessarily translate to I agree with somebody's point of view."

Don't you DARE accuse me of putting words in your mouth. I was quoting you DIRECTLY, you fool. You firmly believe that the founding of this country never did anything for blacks. You said it with your own words. Did a demon possess you while you typed them? Did your mommy get on the computer?

"For god's sake, fox, you live in a beautiful part of the country, but you and I know how completely, unashamedly white it is. I'll agree that the promise is no longer deferred when a black family can move there and be accepted. when 100 or 1000 can without your neighbors (and maybe some of your friends) donning the hood."

...wow. You _really_ live in a fantasy world there, Hags. The black people we have here? All 234 of them in this area and it's suburbs? Yeah, every one of the adults is a homemaker (like the white people here), owns a company or is doing the same as the white guys in some white guy's company. Their teenagers? Yeah they have the same jobs the white teenagers do. And almost everyone is employed at Teletech, where 37% of the management are blacks. There's one homeless black guy, but I'm thinking it's more his alcohol problem keeping him down then Whitey. In your universe, however, white people here wear hoods and march around burning crosses and lynching black people on a regular basis.

America is the only country that was founded on the principles of freedom and equality.

#29 | Posted by soheifox

This nation was founded on the notion of equality only for white males.

Right there in amendments 13, 15 and 19.

"All men are created Equal", 726. That's a heavy heavy statement. It didn't say, "All men are created equal, except for brown men and men who don't own property." I know it took us time to figure it out properly, but it's always been the guideline. We're still growing, but that's the idea we started from.

" All 234 of them in this area and it's suburbs?"

Which, by the way, given the population of that area is around 50 thousand means we have about half as many blacks percentage wise as the nation does at large. Our Hispanic popultaion, at 583, is actually a bit higher then the national average. Our Asian population, however, is like.. 30 people. That's significantly below. So while there's a DEFINITE sheen of white around here, it's nothing like the fantasy world you're putting forward, Hags.

The problem is that "All men are created equal," is not true as interpreted. Men are not equal. They are different. They supposedly have equal rights under the law. It is only in that respect that they're equal. Otherwise they are not.

This fiction of equality is what gave rise to the misbegotten premise that equality of opportunity would result in equality of achievement by members of various races.

Blacks as a subgrouping, can't hack it in technologically-scientifically based societies such as those extant today. The percentage of black people able to absorb and benefit from an education is significantly less than those of other groups. The ability of blacks to restrain themselves unless strictures are imposed, results in the inordinate amount of criminality among them. Now prisons, especially those housing violent criminals, are comprised of one-third illegal aliens, with the preponderance of the remaining inmates being identified as black.

The incapabilites are illustrated in the malfunctioning of black run governments worldwide as compared to the "Tigers" of Asia, and countries in other regions. Sad but true. Zimbabwe and other African countries in ever worse condition are cases in point.

How are blacks to be accommodated by this society? Engaging in the pretense of "equality," and promulgating fictions to support this postulate won't do it. Until the problem is described, it can't be addressed and a solution of sorts, developed.

Elevating a black man to the Presidency of the United States will do little to ameliorate the condition of blacks. Elevating a black man with Obama's Marxist and anti-American background to the Presidency will result in institution of programs that dictate additional black preference, which eventually will be polarizing and exacerbate racial hostility and conflict. A black President will not transform the black community and enable it to miraculously transcend the limitations imposed by its level of capabilities required for advance in this society.

Obama is predisposed to totalitarianism. His election will bring anti-Americans, who support Bill Ayers credo of hatred of American society, and believers in the doctrines of hate-mongers such as Rev. Wight, into positions of power. Why you folks want America haters in so emplaced and are blind to Obama's background, is troubling. You undoubtedly will rue the day that he ascended if we are so unfortunate as to have him elected.

Linking this article and adding that headline is like someone saying all Christians hate US soldiers, because a group of assholes go around with signs that say "Thank God for dead soldiers." Do not link an article that has a quote as person saying 'hates the Star Spangled Banner' and was speaking for an entire race of people, or anything. You McCain supporting clowns are getting more desperate as the election approaches.

Reading the headline, it is a wonder why anyone would actually provide information toward this thread posted dweeb.

Nothing but slanted lies without having to even read the post.

Johnson, you do understand that IQ tests are indicators, not descriptors, right? Like potential-- in the NFL draft. And just as accurate.

The American Anthropological Association issued a declaration which dismissed the debate on the grounds that they view 'race' to be a biologically meaningless categorisation of human beings, while the American Psychological Association released a statement in which they acknowledged the reality of inter-group IQ differences, but said that the current evidence, while scarce, did not support a genetic cause.

Using a variety of statistical techniques, Dolan and colleagues have found that the black-white IQ gap can be accounted for by differences in psychometric factor g and the other interindividual ability factors measured by IQ tests, and also that IQ tests measure roughly the same mix of abilities in both black and white populations.

Fryer and Levitt (2006), with data from "the first large, nationally representative sample" of its kind, report finding only a very small racial difference when measuring mental function for children aged eight to twelve months, and that even these differences disappear when including a "limited set of controls". Using a newly available nationally representative data set that includes a test of mental function for children aged eight to twelve months, they found only minor racial differences in test outcomes (0.06 standard deviation units in the raw data) between Blacks and Whites that disappear with the inclusion of a limited set of controls.

What you base your statements-- on, the Bell Curve--, is the least supported of the four theories of IQ predictability. Which also says that your "conclusions", the so-called "huge" gaps in blacks IQ vs that of whites, has the least support of any theory on IQ.

Get with the facts!

Nothing but slanted lies without having to even read the post.

#64 | Posted by moneywar

Since when did you start reading posts? Waas it recently when crying to Arcade?

Quoting from the bell curve violates the whole aspect of why the bell curve was written.

I see johnson wasn't smart enough to grasp what the authors told the reader.

Wis,

Yes, I did throw suggested at RCADE, posters like you actually bring the content of information down, not up.

Maybe if you would actually post meaningful posts that reflect your actual ideals and attitudes the site would raise to the reflection of national thought.

Instead, your just a opposite outside voice of some regular left poster here trying to generate posts to threads. So, in other words, you are meaningless.

"So, creating the greatest nation in the world in which to live in did nothing for them?"

LOL. What an idiot.


Wis,


Yes, I did throw suggested at RCADE, posters like you actually bring the content of information down, not up.


Maybe if you would actually post meaningful posts that reflect your actual ideals and attitudes the site would raise to the reflection of national thought.
Posted by moneywar

I'll make you a deal. If one of you pig-headed Liberals ever admit you are wrong, I'll post something meaningful just for you. Maybe we can start today when your clan admits they were wrong regarding Palins Yahoo email account. I won't hold my breath.
Or you could purchase the site and make your own policy.


***** Why would anyone even have an opinion on such a worthless irrelevant nation?....Posted by 101Chairborne ******

......they had the third largest force behind US & Britain when we attacked Iraq......

.......are you a fairweather friend ?..........

101


Your #48

Truthful and Funny

Classic 101 today.

I'm not posting much, mostly reading. Just not in the mood.

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