Lynn Forester de Rothschild.
You know, Sir Evelyn Robert Adrian de Rothschild's wife?
Ah, hell, the trollop who lives at Ascott House on 3200 acres in Buckinghamshire.
~John "Of the Fundamentals, By the Fundamentals, and For the Fundamentals" McCain

This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don't like him,-- she said of Obama in an interview with CNNs Joe Johns. I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him."

"Racist!"

--DR Left

This hag calling Obama elitist is akin to McThusela calling Biden old.

Forester is the CEO of EL Rothschild, a holding company with businesses around the world. She is married to international banker Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. Forester is a member of the DNCs Democrats Abroad chapter and splits her time living in London and New York.

Obama is an elitist who must earn her trust? LOL Notice who she is backing now--the multi-millionaire who has too many houses to count.

"Forester is the CEO of EL Rothschild, a holding company with businesses around the world. She is married to international banker Sir Evelyn de Rothschild."

It comes as no surprise that a commoner such as this would find a person with Obama's pedigree to be an elitist.

"Sir" Evelyn

LOL

I know, Evelyn Waugh, was a guy.
It's still funny for an American non-elitist such as myself.

I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.--

Ha!! Must be all the half-white privilege that Obama has going for him. You can take the boy out of Milton Academy, but you can't take the Milton Academy out of the boy.

And who is the elitist?

Obama_maniacs are running scared and with good reason.......... It's almost time for the fat lady to sing.........

She's a Rothschild?

New World Order conspiracy theories present the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, DuPonts, Vanderbilts, Bush family, etc. as the real rulers or would-be rulers of the world.

This is great to watch. All the former Hillary supporters who would have lined up on here 3 months ago to lick Forester's taint, are now suddenly revolted by her standing and wealth. What a bunch of shameful, breeze-sniffing hypocrites you all are. You will support or deride anyone in order to get him elected, making you no better or worse than the people you rant against on here every day.

I hope someone at the Obama campaign recognizes the opportunity this offers, a commercial with this blue blood wealthy Rothschild woman married to an international banker calling Obama an "elitist" would be hilarious.

The revolting thing here is Rothschild's ridiculous claim that Obama's an elitist, given her wealth and spouse.

So if she personally doesn't like Obama why does she have to support McCain, who is way further from Hillary's policies than Obama is? Why not stay out of it? And the elitist comment coming from someone like this is absurd.

Obviously, she's more worried about her personal influence than policy and she thinks McCain offers more bang for the buck - probably because he's winning right now.....

Frankly, I am no big fan of McCain or Obama. I would have voted for McCain without Palin on the ticket because Obama has many ideas that I oppose - one being a promotor of entitlements, creating more burden on the tax paying citizens of this country.

However the Palin nomination has made me feel much better about a Presidency under McCain. Why? She is not one of the good old boys from Washington, she has not been one of the foxes that oversaw and benefited financially from the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac hen house and she appears to have some good old-fashioned common sense and determination to rid Washington of corruption.

So if she personally doesn't like Obama why does she have to support McCain, who is way further from Hillary's policies than Obama is?

Maybe Hillary's peeps are realizing that if Obama wins Hillary will never get in the White House. The best chance she has is for McCain to win and then challenge him in 2012.

So to all those Hillary supporters out there, if you think she'd make a good/great president, then you should vote for McCain this year and see your dream realized in 2012.

So if she personally doesn't like Obama why does she have to support McCain, who is way further from Hillary's policies than Obama is?

She probably gets on with Cindy too - and those two rich bitches can dish Sarah Palin and envy her too.

It makes me miss that old tank Pamela Harriman, who would be campaigning for Obama like crazy, you just know it.

On November 30, 2000, Sir Evelyn married the American lawyer and entrepreneur Lynn Forester, head of the Luxembourg-based wireless broadband venture FirstMark Communications Europe and the former wife of Andrew Stein, a New York City political figure who served as the last president of the New York City Council. By this marriage, he has two stepchildren, Ben and Jake Stein.

Sir Evelyn and his family live at Ascott House, the country estate in Buckinghamshire about 46 miles north of London.

Elitist huh? Someone in the Ascott House is calling someone an elitist?!? Her house is a fucking Museum.

Hypocricy never ceases to amaze me.

Maybe Hillary's peeps are realizing that if Obama wins Hillary will never get in the White House. The best chance she has is for McCain to win and then challenge him in 2012.

Thanks for admitting that Obama is going to be a successful 2 term President there Rob.

You might just catch on yet.....

The Rothschild family is at the top of the Federal Reserve Ownership Pyramid. WHY? What the Fuck? More proof this is not a Democracy.

If this bitch doesn't like or trust Obama, then I want him all the more. Before she spoke out I was less than enamored myself. But, the last thing we need is someone who represents that richest bitch's best interests.

Maybe Hillary's peeps are realizing that if Obama wins Hillary will never get in the White House. The best chance she has is for McCain to win and then challenge him in 2012.

----

Yep, that's my thinking in this case.

"However the Palin nomination has made me feel much better about a Presidency under McCain."

Why is it that I imagine you saying basicly the same thing when Geoge W. Bush was running for president. When you want to vote Republican in the first place you can always find an excuse even though your head tells you that the Dems actually make far more sense for the country. Four more years of Bush's economic policies which McSame will follow will make today seem like the good old days.

"Maybe Hillary's peeps are realizing that if Obama wins Hillary will never get in the White House. The best chance she has is for McCain to win and then challenge him in 2012."

Maybe. I still think its because she does all this fundraising for influence and therefore it doesn't matter who the candidate is as long as they know how to return a favor (not implying tha Obama doesn't trade favors, he does).

But one thing is for certain and that is the explanation she gave is "insulting to your intelligence" level bullshit.

Maybe Hillary's peeps are realizing that if Obama wins Hillary will never get in the White House. The best chance she has is for McCain to win and then challenge him in 2012....and to hell with the little people who will suffer during a McBush presidency. Actually I prefer that this person vote with McCain and no Dem should ever welcome her back to our party. She's one of them.

"The revolting thing here is Rothschild's ridiculous claim that Obama's an elitist, given her wealth and spouse."

One does not need wealth to be considered an elitist. Elitism is a form of snobbery. What she was refering to was liberal elitism.

she appears to have some good old-fashioned common sense and determination to rid Washington of corruption.

#16 | Posted by anamerican

like witch hunts...

and enemies lists

"What she was refering to was liberal elitism."

Which is a made up concept. "Liberal" idealogues think they are right about everything and all others "don't get it", right? That is what makes them elitist.

Well guess what, "conservative" idealogues are exactly the same. But for some reason "liberal elite" has become a catch phrase while nobody points out that politicians on the other side of the fence are a mirror image.

And the whole idea that Obama is an "elitist" compared to this woman or the politicians she does like (Hillary and McCain) is absurd.

Flop Ears could fire the Draft Dodger and crown the Witch. That will make everything peachy keen.

Which is a made up concept. "Liberal" idealogues think they are right about everything and all others "don't get it", right? That is what makes them elitist.

Well guess what, "conservative" idealogues are exactly the same. But for some reason "liberal elite" has become a catch phrase while nobody points out that politicians on the other side of the fence are a mirror image.

#29 | Posted by Sully

This is all true. However, liberal elitists are gay, weak and annoying. Conservative elitists pretend to be hetero, pretend to be strong and actually believe that they are not annoying.

Glad I could straighten that out for you.

Thanks for admitting that Obama is going to be a successful 2 term President there Rob.

You might just catch on yet.....

#20 | Posted by Manypaths

I did no such thing.

If Obama is elected, he will be the DNC's candidate in 2012. Hillary won't be able to run agianst him, unless he is really terrible... but I think in our country's history we've only had one sitting president not get his party's nomination the second time around. So realistically she couldn't run again until 2012... and then she'd be old as fuck... and there would probably be other stars in the party by then.

I kind of understand the sting of Clinton not winning as I was also a supporter of her's but come on. After 8 years of Republican rule how can anyone who was for Hillary now think we need more Republican leadership. Also I dont get it Obama is an elites but not McCain. Doesnt McCain own like 9 houses and his wife is extremely rich. What makes ne man an elites and the other one NOT

MP,

I am not looking for a "gotcha".

What was your reaction to Obama's comment regarding people bitterly clinging to their guns and religion?

I know if he had removed "guns" from that comment, you would have sprouted wood. However, he didn't.

Furthermore, setting politics aside for a moment, you, of all people, HAVE to be at least a bit turned on by a hottie, like Palin, shooting a wild animal and following the process to its logical conclusion - a VERY tasty piece of meat on your dinner plate.

Please don't misunderstand, bro. I am NOT trying to catch you into some bullshit contradiction. Given what little I know about you, it would seem that you'd be more torn between these 2 viable options than you've let on.

PS - I'll check back in awhile - I've got to shower and then school is over and soccer practice begins.

Regardless, I am VERY interested to hear your thoughts on this.

After 8 years of Republican rule how can anyone who was for Hillary now think we need more Republican leadership.

Maybe they have a job, decent finances, much of the problems of the past 8 years or so haven't really applied to them, and so another 4 years to get to the person they really want, rather then never seeing her in there is appealing to them...

Taking a high level look at how the last 8 years have gone, I can see why people say we're on the wrong track... hell in a lot of areas I'd say it too. But going down to the individual level, and people really aren't doing so badly... I can only talk from personal experience, but my situation has improved every year since Bush was in office, and I don't know anyone that is really struggling right now... don't know anyone who has lost their house...

What do I think about this comment:

'You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothings replaced them. And its not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who arent like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.'

I think he is right on the money. Some people are afraid to talk about the truth, but the truth it is.

Guns and Religion and the folks that cling to them is what has kept the Republicans in power. The Republicans use those issues to blind their supporters from the fact that they are getting ass fucked by the GOP in the name of Jesus.

Furthermore, setting politics aside for a moment, you, of all people, HAVE to be at least a bit turned on by a hottie, like Palin, shooting a wild animal and following the process to its logical conclusion

None of that takes away from the fact that she is a religious nutcase that wants to shove her faith down my throat. From her teachings, I am going to hell for supporting Kerry. But she can suck my dick anytime that she wants. Cheney too for that matter.

I still have not heard one single reason for me to belive that she should be anywhere near the WH trying to lead this country.

Not one.

MP,

I appreciate your answer.

I still have not heard one single reason for me to belive that she should be anywhere near the WH trying to lead this country.

Not one.

#37 | Posted by Manypaths

Same with Barack... only difference is he would actually be President... she just wants to be VP... for the most part its a meaningless job.

No wonder she hates Obama. Hell, I've got a mind to vote for Barry because of this.

#11 | Posted by LeeAtwater at 2008-09-17 01:19 PM | Reply

You can know a lot about a person by his enemies.

she just wants to be VP... for the most part its a meaningless job. -Rob

Don't be dumb - if they won she would be Cheney's pet and continue the present situation whereby they don't tell the real President very much - even easier with old McPain than with Georgie boy.

Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committees Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN. "I feel like he is an elitist," said de Rothschild, the wife of international banker Sir Evelyn de Rothschild.

I have 2 reactions to this:

1. EVERY election involves cross-over votes.

2. If this woman is really that prominent, she just sacrificed her career. The worst possible time to jump-ship is during campaign season.

Don't be dumb - if they won she would be Cheney's pet and continue the present situation whereby they don't tell the real President very much - even easier with old McPain than with Georgie boy.

#41 | Posted by sitdown

You forgot that she would grow horns and carry a pitchfork and Satan would carpool with her to work, and then she'd sneak into people's houses at night and wreck up the place, because Cheney is the source of all that is evil... Mwoohhhahahahahahahhaa!!

Assface...

I'll take Obama's knowledge of Constitutional Law and raise you 7 houses and a drug-addicted wife.

But going down to the individual level, and people really aren't doing so badly... I can only talk from personal experience, but my situation has improved every year since Bush was in office, and I don't know anyone that is really struggling right now... don't know anyone who has lost their house...

#36 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

The problem with that thinking Rob, is that by the time McSame or Palin fucks up the country to the point that it does affect you personally, it'll be too late to do anything.
Plus I don't believe it. I'm in the same boat in the respect that I don't personally know people who lost their house. But I do pay for gas, I pay for health insurance and I do have a 401k.
The price of everything has gone up, mainly due to a weakened dollar as a result (in no small part) to Bush's failed adventure in Iraq. Health insurance has gone up, my guess is because it costs more to operate the private jets that health insurance executives use. Also I work for the private sector and our end customers are the American public and their ever-shrinking expendable income (not the Defence Department cash cow).
Finally I have a 401k. An idea that is sound if you believe that the stock market is run by responsible individuals. Unfortunately after years of conservative market fundamentalism, the regulations put in place to prevent another Great Depression have been whittled away, leading to the disasters on Wall Street of the last few days.
To sum up, I think it's impossible if you work for a living (unlike Ms. Lynn Forester de Rothschild) that the fuckups of the Bush foreign policy and the failure of conservative economic policy have not affecred you personally.

[the Rothschild's] house is a fucking Museum.

#19 | Posted by Manypaths at 2008-09-17 01:36 PM | Reply

Do people come to see-um?

Are they really a scree-um?

"What was your reaction to Obama's comment regarding people bitterly clinging to their guns and religion?"

I know you didn't ask me but I think to a certain extent he was right. But it was a poorly worded and short sighted statement. They are many people who are bitter or angry over something and who then cling to one issue as a way of demonizing others who aren't like them. For some people its gun control or religion. For others its abortion (both sides). Others may be all about women's rights or advancing one particular racial group and anyone who doesn't agree with their one sided agenda is a sexist or racist. There are one-issue voters all over the political spectrum and none of them are particularly bright or pleasant people. They are easily manipulated. Pawns.

But by focusing on just "guns and relgion" and talking about blue collar Pennsylvania as his example, Obama dug his own hole. Reality is that bitter one issue idiots are all over the place and many of them are Obama supporters.

But I do pay for gas, I pay for health insurance and I do have a 401k.

Same here... Gas isn't crippling... We get our health insurance through my wife's employer, and we're 35-40 years from even seeing our 401Ks...

Yeah the cost of things has gone up, and the stockmarket kind of blows lately... but its not really having an effect on us personally to the point that we're so furious at Bush we are putting up Obama signs... I'm guessing that there are a lot of people out there in the same boat. People saying, "Yeah things kind of suck right now, but does that mean we completely roll the dice with the guy we know nothing about?"

I'll take Obama's knowledge of Constitutional Law and raise you 7 houses and a drug-addicted wife.

#44 | Posted by Manypaths

I see your book smarts and raise you multiple senate terms with a record of bipartisanship and raise you a community organizing member of a militant Black seperatist church who wants to destroy healthcare.

Health insurance has gone up, my guess is because it costs more to operate the private jets that health insurance executives use.

----

Your guess would be way off base.

and raise you multiple senate terms with a record of bipartisanship

Sorry, Biden is on my team!

It sucks that our VP pick is more qualified than the top of your ticket huh?

She's a Rothschild?

New World Order conspiracy theories present the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, DuPonts, Vanderbilts, Bush family, etc. as the real rulers or would-be rulers of the world.

en.wikipedia.org

No wonder she hates Obama. Hell, I've got a mind to vote for Barry because of this.

#11 | Posted by LeeAtwater at 2008-09-17 01:19 PM | Reply

Funny thing about that:

I heard a complete whackadoodle on a radio program on the local "Christian" radio station today saying that if a Rothschild thinks Obama is an elitist then he REALLY must be an elitist because the Rothschild's are such elitists themselves.

So, the host of that show is definitely going to vote for the non-elitist McCain now.

How's that for reasoning?

It sucks that our VP pick is more qualified than the top of your ticket huh?

LOL... its the opposite big guy... the least qualified of all 4 is Barack Obama...

Unless getting a known terrorist to start your political career is a qualification. Is it?

So what?

Flop Ears could fire the Draft Dodger and crown the Witch. That will make everything peachy keen.

#30 | Posted by fwthom

FW,

Thanks for another incisive, well-thought out comment. Those years at the MENSA meetings and the 158 IQ are evident in your e very word.

One does not need wealth to be considered an elitist. Elitism is a form of snobbery. What she was refering to was liberal elitism.

Ah, the Resentment Card. The most common card in the Republican deck.

How many elections are people going to fall for the comical notion that the party of Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney and John McCain and George Bush represents the common folk?

It sucks that our VP pick is more qualified than the top of your ticket huh?

#51 | Posted by Manypaths

I don't recall McCain asking a guy in a wheelchair to stand up and let the people see him. Biden is certainly more qualified to make an ass out of himself.

Short quiz for our little friends:

WHO IS THIS PERSON?

I am under 45 years old.

I love the outdoors.

I hunt.

I am a Republican reformer.

I have taken on the Republican Party establishment.

I have many children.

I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years in the governor's office.

Answer follows soon.

I don't recall McCain asking a guy in a wheelchair to stand up and let the people see him. Biden is certainly more qualified to make an ass out of himself.

So?

- Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney and John McCain and George Bush represents the common folk?

It is the genius of the GOP that they have been able to get blue-collars to vote against their own self-interest all of these years by dividing people based on culture war issues.

Which is, of course, why there is a Palin on the ticket. They found what they were missing.

sounds like she is lying about her reasons

liar eh

no wonder she is a mccain fan.

So now your gonna compare Palin with Teddy roosevelt?

Good luck with that.

Teddy wore lipstick?

rcade,

See post #26. Lynn Forester de Rothschild, self described lifelong Democrat, echoed the message that one does not need wealth to be considered an elitist

LOL... its the opposite big guy... the least qualified of all 4 is Barack Obama...

#53 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

That's pretty funny considering that Bush was considered very qualified because of his governorship and his many years of experience in the private sector (where he screwed things up royally). Based on this, and the fact that the last eight years have been an incredible disaster, I would say that I am ready for a "not-so-qualified" person to lead the country. Hell, maybe someone who actually has some smarts.

"How many elections are people going to fall for the comical notion that the party of Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney and John McCain and George Bush represents the common folk?"

I dunno...how many elections are our leftist friends going to nominate losers? They must not be connecting too well to the "common folk" themselves. A little history from Rasmussen:

"Rasmussen Reports and many others have not often pointed out another fundamentalthe difficulty Democrats have in attracting a majority of the popular vote.

Since 1860, the year that Abraham Lincoln became the first Republican president, only three Democrats have won the White House with a majority of the popular vote. Each of the threeFranklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, and Jimmy Carterwere aided by extraordinary circumstances.

Roosevelt was elected during the depths of the Great Depression. Johnson was elected less than a year after he assumed the presidency following the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Carter was elected in the immediate aftermath of Watergate, a time that makes even the current challenges faced by the Republican Party seem tame by comparison.

For a while, it appeared to many that Barack Obama might be able to expand the traditional limits of Democratic appeal and break through the 50% ceiling. But despite all the polling done by Rasmussen Reports and others this season, he has not yet broken through that barrier.

Still, for much of the year, it seemed like a Democrat winning 49% or 50% of the vote should be able to capture the White House. After all, the GOP was fragmented and less than thrilled with their nominee. So, if a Ron Paul or a Bob Barr picked up two or three percent of the vote, many expected that McCain would be doomed.

Now, with the addition of Alaska's conservative governor, Sarah Palin, to the ticket, McCain has succeeded in uniting his party and ramping up its enthusiasm. In fact, it now seems that Hillary Clinton, an unsuccessful contender for the Democratic presidential nomination, might drain a point or so of support from Obama. That appears to be as likely as Libertarian Party candidate Barr grabbing a few votes from McCain."

So what?

#54 | Posted by SamBarber

You're right its nothing... we're fighting terrorists, he hangs out with them and is friends with them. Guess you have to know your enemy right? I mean its not possible at all that he agreed with Ayers... he was so disgusted with him that he spent a lot of time with him... to hold onto that disgust.

I would say that I am ready for a "not-so-qualified" person to lead the country

Imagine if a major corporation worked that way? You have a shitty CEO, didn't do a good job at all... so to fix the problems you have two choices. On one hand a guy who has a ton of experience in the company and would know what to do from day one and can work with everyone in the company... and on the other, you have an angry Black man who organized communities a while back, he's been with the company for 4 years but all he's done for the last 2 is tell everyone he should be CEO.

Gee... that is a hard decision...

I still have not heard one single reason for me to belive that she should be anywhere near the WH trying to lead this country.

Not one.

So?

#59 | Posted by Manypaths

Helluva retort.

"So now your gonna compare Palin with Teddy roosevelt?"

Why not...Pelosi compared the Obamessiah to Jesus when she said he was "sent by God to lead us" and the Obamessiah doesn't even have the qualifications listed above.

Democrats Need to Shake The 'Elitist' Tag
By LYNN FORESTER DE ROTHSCHILD
"Elitism is a state of mind, a view of the world that cannot be measured simply by one's net worth, position or number of houses. Throughout American history, there have been extremely wealthy figures who have devoted themselves to genuinely nonelitist principles. (Franklin Delano Roosevelt is probably the best-known example.) At the same time, many from modest backgrounds, like Harry Truman's foil, Thomas Dewey, personified elitism."

Two things stand out for me in Lynn's op ed:

1) She seems to have overlooked the fact that Obama has tremendous grassroots support and has collected millions in small contributions from everyday voters.

2) subject verb POW

"I still have not heard one single reason for me to belive that she should be anywhere near the WH trying to lead this country."

C'mon, ManyLostPaths...if you had 42,373,826 GOOD reasons to vote for her you still wouldn't do it. You're just a poor lost disciple of the Obamessiah.

"1) She seems to have overlooked the fact that Obama has tremendous grassroots support and has collected millions in small contributions from everyday voters."

And he is STILL sucking hind teat...LOL What's up with that? There's a lot of history regarding that "popularity with the commom man" that doesn't quite jibe. Can you 'splain it?

"Since 1860, the year that Abraham Lincoln became the first Republican president, only three Democrats have won the White House with a majority of the popular vote. Each of the threeFranklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, and Jimmy Carterwere aided by extraordinary circumstances." Rasmussen

2) subject verb POW

#72 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

If there is a line to be stolen and credit not given a Democrat will jump on it.

C'mon, ManyLostPaths...if you had 42,373,826 GOOD reasons to vote for her you still wouldn't do it. You're just a poor lost disciple of the Obamessiah.

Let's start with one. Can you do it?

Boyd, how the hell did you logon as Manypaths?

"On one hand a guy who has a ton of experience in the company and would know what to do from day one and can work with everyone in the company..."

He's been the exact same thing as Obama, a Senator. He hasn't run anything yet he has managed to be wrong on the most important issues of our times.
Iraq...wrong
Deregulation....wrong
Bush tax cuts for the rich...was right...but now wrong
Torture...was right...now wrong

and on the other, you have an angry Black man who organized communities a while back, he's been with the company for 4 years but all he's done for the last 2 is tell everyone he should be CEO.

Gee... that is a hard decision...

#68 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

First, he doesn't sound so angry to me. Second, he's actually been a success at everything he's done, and third, McCain advisor Carly Fiorina says "it's not the same thing" that none of the candidates could run a large private corporation. Nevertheless, even if your premise is correct, the choice is not experience anyway since none of the four has actually any large scale executive experience. Palin as governor of Alaska is like having the mayor of Richmond, VA as VP candidate. So for me it still comes down to intelligence. Who can make a reasoned and reasonable decision based on the criteria and facts given. The current WH is driven by ideology and McCain / Palin has already shown that their administration would be driven the same way.

"Let's start with one. Can you do it?"

Yeah...the Obamessiah is a socialist who has been endorsed by the Communist Party of the United States of America (CPUSA.)

That's ONE good reason and I don't really need another. Now...you can come back and retort with "hope and change."

Rob,

Obama could rebuild america's image abroad, which will have a direct impact on nearly all foreign policy objectives, whether they be sanctions, trade, environment, etc..

I think its clear that the world won't cooperate much in the way of just letting the US do and take what htey want, but when it comes to getting what they want, a little honey would go further than vinegar and Barack can manage that better than anyone.

While pandering to the UN may upset your stomach, it may actually be needed to achieve most of the US goals around the world.

People would laugh, and probably barf simulaneously, maybe even swallowing some, when Palin tries to rally them to her cause.
McCain and Palin = isolatoin, which sounds ok when waving flags and listening to Tobey, but perpetuates the rut.

The current WH is driven by ideology and McCain / Palin has already shown that their administration would be driven the same way.

BINGO!

"I still have not heard one single reason for me to belive that she should be anywhere near the WH trying to lead this country."

Still. Talking about other people does not count.

Not one single reason on her behalf. Just "Anyone but the Negroe"

That is very telling Righties.

McClatchy newspapers
guardian.co.uk, Friday May 16 2008

The California Senate yesterday passed legislation that would delete membership in the Communist party as a reason for firing a public employee, a Cold War-era prohibition intended to root out communists.

The California Senate yesterday passed legislation that would delete membership in the Communist party as a reason for firing a public employee

It took this long to rid ourselves of McCarthyism?

WOW! What a nation of pussies we are.......

First, he doesn't sound so angry to me.

Yeah, he and Rev. Wright were Mentee and Mentor cuz Obama is happy as a clam.

Second, he's actually been a success at everything he's done

How do you fail at being a community organizer? How do you fail at being a Senator for 2 years and spend the next two campaigning? Hell being a senator is the easiest job in the world. You vote: Yes or No. Or if its a tricky bit of legislation, you just don't vote.

All I see is he won the primary and is a fantastic speaker. What actually qualifies him to be president?

Obama could rebuild america's image abroad, which will have a direct impact on nearly all foreign policy objectives, whether they be sanctions, trade, environment, etc..

So Obama should be our leader so some french douchebag average citizen can be happy? Fuck that shit...

-What actually qualifies him to be president?

He's not George Bush, and McCain is.

My dear, dear Lynn Forester de Rothschild:

As you know, I usually don't do writing---POW and all that---but in your case I'm making an exception, just to let you know how pleased I am that you've decided to switch from that Clinton trollop and come aboard the Strigaht Tkla Express. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead as one of my war buddies said, oh, a long time ago.

It's not often that a real woman of the people like a titled member of the English nobility stoops to this level.

On a personal note, my wife, whatshername, has expressed an interested in going shopping with you and Marie Antoinette whenever Marie's in town. Perhaps you could all share some cake.

On bended knee, your most worshipful worshipfulness,

~John "Down With The Elites" McCain

"Not one single reason on her behalf. Just "Anyone but the Negroe"

You and your little friends like to play that song but it's out of tune. Your problem is that you nominated the WRONG "Negroe." He's a frickin' socialist. If you had nominated Michael steele or someone like him, I'd be banging his drum.
What was the "prejudice" that caused us not to vote for McGovern, Humphrey, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry....couldn't be that we simply didn't like their politics, could it? Same for Obama. Once again, look at some history.

"Since 1860, the year that Abraham Lincoln became the first Republican president, only three Democrats have won the White House with a majority of the popular vote. Each of the threeFranklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, and Jimmy Carterwere aided by extraordinary circumstances." Rasmussen

#89 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-09-17 04:20 PM

So much typing for so few laughs...

At least that wasn't your intent though...

Holy douchechills...

Also, given the republican distaste for public managment of industries, such as insurance, I find it terribly ironic that the excessive lack of oversight has resulted in a montstrous bailout and ownership stake in the insurance field.... guess the state owned option worked out after all!
one question - was it just dumb luck that the repubs have effectively nationalized an insurance company, or - are you or have you ever been a communist?

He's not George Bush, and McCain is.

Posted by Corky

That, by itself, is enough.

"Since 1860, the year that Abraham Lincoln became the first Republican president, only three Democrats have won the White House with a majority of the popular vote."

That fact alone should send a message to our little leftist friends. It kinda tells ME that as much as you like to extol the virtues of the "common man," he ain't votin' for you. Maybe your candidates and your platforms just suck? Looks to me like the "common man" thinks so.

Each of the threeFranklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, and Jimmy Carterwere aided by extraordinary circumstances." Rasmussen

#74 | Posted by jestgettinalong

Based on this fact, I think the Dems can start celebrating now. If having an idiot in the WH for eight years doesn't count as "extraordinary circumstances" I don't know what would.

"Also, given the republican distaste for public managment of industries, such as insurance, I find it terribly ironic that the excessive lack of oversight has resulted in a montstrous bailout and ownership stake in the insurance field...."

As do I.....

"Since 1860, the year that Abraham Lincoln became the first Republican president, only three Democrats have won the White House with a majority of the popular vote. Each of the threeFranklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, and Jimmy Carterwere aided by extraordinary circumstances."

So?

What do James Blaine, Charles Hughes and Thomas Dewey have in common?

They all lost.

And does it matter by what percentage their opponent won? You know, the ones they called "Mr. President" after they were sworn in?

Didn't think so.

Rob doesn't care about what any foreign person thinks unless he lives in a cave and wears a towel on his head.

Strange.......

Why do you care what terrorist think but not the civilized World Rob?

So?

#59 | Posted by Manypaths

Helluva retort.

#70 | Posted by wisgod

I guess it doesn't take much to go over your head Wis.

Can you guess what Dick I learned that from?

I know, I know, you might just catch on now......

So now we know why the financial system is all messed up.

"personally I don't like him" and that is how decisions are made.

Bright out here ain't it Wis. That's what happens when your head pops out of your ass......

"Based on this fact, I think the Dems can start celebrating now. If having an idiot in the WH for eight years doesn't count as "extraordinary circumstances" I don't know what would."

Well, it ain't workin' yet, Geeze. It would behoove you to wait another few weeks to schedule that celebration. Again from Rasmussen:

"For a while, it appeared to many that Barack Obama might be able to expand the traditional limits of Democratic appeal and break through the 50% ceiling. But despite all the polling done by Rasmussen Reports and others this season, he has not yet broken through that barrier."

First, he doesn't sound so angry to me.

Yeah, he and Rev. Wright were Mentee and Mentor cuz Obama is happy as a clam.

Second, he's actually been a success at everything he's done

How do you fail at being a community organizer? How do you fail at being a Senator for 2 years and spend the next two campaigning? Hell being a senator is the easiest job in the world. You vote: Yes or No. Or if its a tricky bit of legislation, you just don't vote.

All I see is he won the primary and is a fantastic speaker. What actually qualifies him to be president?

#86 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

I see, so it's guilt by association. So McCain is a slimebag thief because of his connection to the Keating 5. Palin is a slut because her daughter sleeps around (and she was the mentor). In the end I would rather put my trust in someone who worked for what he has achieved, BTW editor of the Harvard Law review is no small matter, than someone who got ito the Naval Academy because of his ELITE parental connections and into government because of his wife's money. Since your contention is that being a senator is not qualificatory, then McCain's only achievement has been to be taken prisoner.

Not one!

Still.

Bright out here ain't it Wis. That's what happens when your head pops out of your ass......

#101 | Posted by Manypaths

Try more fibre in your diet. It appears yours is still stuck.

Here, I'll save you the trouble:

So?
Posted by Manypaths

"And does it matter by what percentage their opponent won? You know, the ones they called "Mr. President" after they were sworn in?"

Considering that you and your little friends have only elected ONE democrat since 1976 (with Perot's help, and THAT democrat didn't get 50% either)you're sounding kinda cocky there. On top of that, you and your little friends have only managed to REelect one democrat since FDR in 1940. It was the same guy, again with Perots help and a total vote less than 50%....LOL
Oh well, when you have accomplished so little over the years, I guess you have to cherish what little you have...right?

Don't forget that that One Guy went on to leave the Oval Office with the highest approval rating in the history of the United States.

Clearly, we know how to pick them. The Republicans? Well, their proof is in the WH.

For the sake of this country, you guys might want to sit one out. You clearly are horrible judges on who should lead this country.

Again, the proof is in the WH.

I gotta go but I want to urge the conservatives here to be kind to our little leftist-socialist friends. Remember the article about a vegetarian diet shrinking brains. Well, many of our little friends are subsisting on tofu and bean sprouts and are therefor afflicted (sorry Doc.) Pity them. Tell them about the benefits of ribs, pork BBQ and beer. If they can get their brains in some semblence of order who knows, maybe they'll find another candidate like Truman or JFK. Play nice now.

Well, it ain't workin' yet, Geeze. It would behoove you to wait another few weeks to schedule that celebration. Again from Rasmussen:

#102 | Posted by jestgettinalong

I did not say it was working and I certainly am not celebrating yet, however based on YOUR analysis of the past elections, it would be right to assume that the Dems will take this one since it does look like Bush's presidency will go down as the worst ever to the point where the Vice president was sending the dolt out on campaign stops and having policy meetings in his absence.

Since your contention is that being a senator is not qualificatory, then McCain's only achievement has been to be taken prisoner.

#103 | Posted by geezer1

No, that's not what I said, I asked how anyone could fail at being a senator. People can disagree with how you vote, but as long as you are voting, you've done your job. As far as the task it requires it is an unbelievably easy job... if someone could even call it a job.

What I did say was that being a Senator for 4 years, but not really since he's been running for President for 2 of them, doesn't qualify Obama to be President. If Obama completed a full term or more in the senate added with his other resume items, I'd have no problem with his qualifications...

I see, so it's guilt by association.

Acting like they just happened to be members of the same church or met at a party is laughable. Jeremiah Wright has had enormous influence on Barack Obama as the man we see today... is that a good thing?

The same tedious comments from Rob. Why don't you look at what we've got before us? A flip flopping, semi-demented old guy who doesn't know how to email and is likely still suffering from PTSD, versus an intellectual, multiculturalist, modernist, who, yes, regularly attended a church where his pastor raged against the dominant hegemony. (But Palin's husband's separatist movement is cool, right? And Falwell and co's rants are kosher too?) But those weren't BHO's words, and attributing them to him is silly. Look at his record. You and others claim he's a socialist, yet we're living in a world of corparatism that is essentially socialism for fucked up businesses. Pull your head out of your ass. Barack can write, can think, can extrapolate, can negotiate, and can work. He's had to work harder than McCain his entire life, and, most crucially, he hasn't been party to the disaster that's been perpetuated for the last 7+ years...you know, the lies about Iraq that pushed us to war, the failure to handle domestic crises, the blatant corruption and hypocrisy...the list is endless. You want to support the status quo and the continued plummet of American stature? Fine. Vote for the Rong party. But don't discount the man who's busted his ass and has excelled at everything he's done. He is the American Dream, like it or not. McCain is a relic, and will continue to squander the precious little goodwill and credit America has left.

Let me get this completely straight before I begin believing that I have completely fallen down the rabbit hole. A member of the British aristocracy is calling the son of a white single mother and absent Kenyan father who drug himself up through hard work and scholarships to be a contender for the presidency of the most powerful nation on earth an "elitist"? I read this earlier in the day. Do you know how much hot tea hurts when you express it through your nose?

Obama's an elitist!

Sincerely,
Lady Rothschild

You're much too polite litlgibberishhandle - let me help. A member of the British Aristocracy is calling the bastard of a white whore and deadbeat kenyan schlep who still believes that America owes him something an "elitist". There - now you can drink your tea with some biscuits.

"Elitist" in this context is aristocratese for "uppity negro."

uppity magical negro

BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAHAAA....

The Rothschild's are the wealthiest family in the entire WORLD!!

There money goes all the way back to the 18th Century!

....but Obama is an elitist?

Does this crusty gold-digging broad know the definition of an elitist?

Here's more info on how they came to be so wealthy......typical scumbaggery!

You're much too polite litlgibberishhandle - let me help. A member of the British Aristocracy is calling the bastard of a white whore and deadbeat kenyan schlep who still believes that America owes him something an "elitist". There - now you can drink your tea with some biscuits.

#115 | Posted by 2fast4u at 2008-09-17 09:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

2FISTSinYOU,

Deadbeat Kenyan?....who attended Harvard.

White Whore?.....she raised a son who became the first black president of the Harvard Law Review and went on to become a US Senator.

If those are the accomplishments of a 'deadbeat' and a 'white whore', how do you refer to your own parents?

Common-
("uncle" and "sis"?)

Would love to read some of this bastard's articles on the law review. Funny, the only thing he ever wrote about was his unwaivering support for abortion - 3rd publication of 1990. My favorite quote from the article is the role of government in "preventing increasing numbers of children from being born in to lives of pain and despair."

You are an elitist if you don't think deadbeats can attend Ivy league schools. What her son does has no bearing on the fact that she was a White Whore. My parents, well I'm not running for office and touting my poor upbringing as a reason to select me but I assure you it was much more humble and my mom wasn't a whore and my father wasn't a deadbeat if that's what you're getting at. How about yours, this must've struck a chord with you. Somebody need a hug? Piss off, your messiah is a fraud.

BETELG - just like you to chime in when I'm headed for bed - troll. Shoot me an email sometime, the offer still stands pussy.

WISGOD,
I know I am repeating myself but I can't help it. Whenever I see one of these Ultra Radicals hold Hairplugs for Men up as an example of what a GOOD VP should be I have to repeat it again since the following is what they want as VP -

I like a quote I read somewhere but can't remember the person who said it...
30 Years of Foriegn Policy Experience, always making the WRONG choice.

Yes, that is who we need for VP, one of the Marx Brothers... but they are so much funnier than this phoney.

He even lied about how his wife and child died... the Truck driver was not "drunk", "speeding" or driving a truck with "failed brakes"...

In 2007 at the University of Iowa Biden said "Let me tell you a little story. I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on Dec. 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly -- and I never pursued it -- drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my f