Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, September 16, 2008

In ad-libbed remarks during a campaign event in Jacksonville, John McCain said yesterday that "the fundamentals of our economy are strong," a comment that drew an immediate response from Joe Biden: "I could walk from here to Lansing, and I wouldn't run into a single person who thought our economy was doing well, unless I ran into John McCain."

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Of course, McCain's the guy who, if elected, might very well appoint Phil Gramm, another GOPiggy boob, Secretary of the Treasury.

Yes, that Phil Gramm.

As in the guy who thinks this ia a "mental recession" and we've become a nation of "whiners."

Vote for McCain, then bend over, because you're going to take it right up the chute.

"McCain Channeling Herbert Hoover on the Economy"

Drunk_Sarvis shows off, once again, his fundamental ignorance of American history.

Hoover, in fact, was an advocate of free trade but was out-voted by tariff-loving, protectionist Democrats in Congress.

The Great Depression was brought on -- and extended -- by trade barriers advocated most strongly by Democrats. These economic problems also fueled the rise of fascism in Europe and compelled the Japanese Empire to invade Korea and China.

But in the world of Drunk_Sarvis, it's easier to just toss around "Hoover" as a blame-line. Actual book lernin' would be hard werk.

"Actual book lernin' would be hard werk.
#2 | Posted by vernon at 2008-09-16 02:58 AM"

Which explains the deteriorating quality of your posts.

Whuzzamattah, loser boy, you no big nummah one in Chinatown?

"The Great Depression was brought on -- and extended -- by trade barriers advocated most strongly by Democrats. These economic problems also fueled the rise of fascism in Europe and compelled the Japanese Empire to invade Korea and China."

So now we have Vermin in his incarnation as an apologist for Japanese aggression. Pathetic.

Here's a history lesson for you, Vermin: If the Democrats were as successful in creating all that economic havoc leading up into the Great Depression, they did it between December 1932-March 1933, which is the only time during the 1920s and pre-FDR that they controlled even one branch of Congress (in this case, the House). And somehow they overcame the GOP-controlled Senate and the GOP-controlled White House. How'd they do it, Vemrin?

By the way, Vermin, the GOP controlled both houses of Congress from 1919 and throughout the 1920s, up into the market crash, into the early 1920s. And the White House from 1921-1932.

Boobish doesn't even begin to describe your level of ignorance and blinkered shilling.

Now, go back and give your masters some of whatever it is they crave.

The Great Depression was brought on -- and extended -- by trade barriers advocated most strongly by Democrats. These economic problems also fueled the rise of fascism in Europe and compelled the Japanese Empire to invade Korea and China.

LOL! How delusional can one be about history.

The great depression was caused by the federal reserve selling gold to europe and land grabbing middle america farmers and their money.

"the GOP controlled both houses of Congress from 1919 and throughout the 1920s, up into the market crash, into the early 1920s" should read "the GOP controlled both houses of Congress from 1919 and throughout the 1920s, up into the market crash, into the early 1930s"

Gotta shed that Vermin MissCalculator.

Vernon has to try to defend Hoover because McCain now resembles that failure so much. Hilarious.
Thanks to Doc for making him look ridiculous.

"I promise you, we will never put America in this position again. We will clean up Wall Street,"


Gee, Gov. Palin said much the same thing yesterday. Not so much with the specifics, though.

Anybody with an alcoholic family member will recognize this for what it is. Talk is cheap, you're gonna have to show me.

"Hey, quit quoting McCain word for word. He's old. Just because he says it doesn't mean that he means it."

- You Know Who

www.youtube.com

John McCain sounds like a retarded child when he talks about the economy with someone who really knows what he's talking about.

Aren't they though? We haven't had a quarter of negative growth, unemployment is still really low, consumer confidence will probably take a hit after this wall street nonsense, but had gone up the past two months...

John Mcsame is now claiming he invented the blackberry.

Move over, Al Gore. You may lay claim to the Internet, but John McCain helped create the BlackBerry.

At least that's the contention of a top McCain policy adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin. Waving his BlackBerry personal digital assistant and citing McCain's work as a senator, he told reporters Tuesday, ''You're looking at the miracle that John McCain helped create.''

McCain has acknowledged that he doesn't know how to use a computer and can't send e-mail, one of the BlackBerry's prime functions.

OK all you lemmings, calm down. I do not see what you'll are worried about. I doubt most of you have jobs or money anyway.

McCain's comment is a huge gift to Obama. He couldn't possibly sound more out of touch at a worse time.

How is John McCain going to change the financial policy that he has backed for the last 7.5 years?

The McCain camp is starting to look like a really bad movie. It's a shame that they still appeal to some people.

'Strong'

Odor isn't everything.

I made a lot of money in the market ... in the 90's.
Then I got the hell out when you fools elected Bush.

The fundamentals of our economy our strong? What fundamentals might those be?
6+ % unemployment
Bear Stearns GONE
Lehman Brothers GONE
Merrill Lynch GONE
Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG hanging by a thread
Oil STILL above 100 a barrel
9.6 TRILLION in outstanding Debt

So, would someone explain to me what these "fundamentals" are?

I doubt most of you have jobs or money anyway.

#13 | Posted by cabo_vato

Cabo is boasting that he'll be ready to tackle the deep fryer in a couple of months.

i78.photobucket.com

No, no, no ...

THIS is Cabo

saucemaster.info

6+ % unemployment

That's bad?

Did I hit a sore spot there boys and girls?

"Aren't they though? We haven't had a quarter of negative growth, unemployment is still really low, consumer confidence will probably take a hit after this wall street nonsense, but had gone up the past two months..."

#11 | POSTED BY ROB_THE_A_HOLE

For the most part yes. Last quarter looked good, we will see in time how this one will end up. I have to agree with McCain that this "Recession" is mostly in our minds. Just because we are not doing as good as we were does not mean that we are doing bad.

I do not however, think that we could not be doing better.

McCains top economic adviser Holtz-Eakin holds up his BlackBerry when asked by reporters Tuesday what work McCain did as Senate Commerce Committee chair that helped him understand the markets.

He did this,-- he says, pointing to his device. Telecommunications of the United States is a premier innovation in the past 15 years, comes right through the Commerce committee so youre looking at the miracle John McCain helped create and thats what he did.--

I love Algore

When unemployment had been running as low at 3%, yes, doubling that number is not good.

I would also be quite curious to know what the total payroll is of all the jobs now versus all the jobs ten years ago adjusted for inflation. Call me crazy, but I don't think a job as a wal mart greeter has the same earning potential as a job in IT.

And Wall Street nonsense? Are you that blind? This Wall Street nonsense you are referring to will very likely cause the very large banks to reduce the amount of money they lend to smaller banks which in turn will mean less credit available to the consumer to buy cars, houses, etc...

Oh, but the fundamentals of the economy are strong! Keep repeating it over and over. By the way, Wapner's on at 330 and KMart sucks...

"The sky is falling...the sky is falling!" said Chicken Little.

And why did Chicken Little say this? Because Chicken Little needed it to be so, otherwise no one would listen to her. She needed to convince everyone of imminent disaster, else she'd be irrelevant.


The arrogant motive of the Imminent Disaster Liberal: "Where are all the people going? I want to lead them!"


6+ % unemployment


That's bad?

#20 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

If you beleive that 6% is the real unemployment rate......

moneycentral.msn.com

Williams starts by discussing the headline economic data: "Real unemployment right now -- figured the way that the average person thinks of unemployment, meaning figured the way it was estimated back during the Great Depression -- is running about 12%.

In fact, there are seven or eight different employment statistics. One called U-3 is the official one. The broadest one, U-6, currently shows unemployment as running around 8.4%. As he explains, the one that's the most historically consistent is running around 12%.

Unemployment is low!!! Wal-Mart jobs galore!!!
Our economy will continue to struggle until we get rid of the supply side economics crowd. Twenty eight of failure is enough.
Our economy will continue to struggle until we institute fair trade over "free" trade. There is no such thing as "free" trade.
Our economy will continue to struggle until we acknowledge that we are the only nation playing by the rules of globalization. All the other nations are breaking the rules by protecting their jobs. We need to break that rule too, and if we can't then to hell with the global economy.


Yes, let us get rid of supply side economics!

Instead, let us tax ourselves into prosperity!


Looks like the insurance company AIG is taking a real bath today.
AIG stock has dropped more than 42% as of only an hour ago.

9/16/2008 - AIG, with 103,000 employees and more than $1 trillion of assets, is more than an insurance company. It is arguably the biggest player in the financial services industry; a collapse, many fear, could be catastrophic.

AIG's former chairman Maurice Greenberg said Tuesday that without a loan or any other injection of capital from the outside, the giant insurance company would be bankrupt....

You conservative Republicans keep yapping about les government intrustion, no oversight, no federal rules and regulations. All you wanted was deregulation so these thugs could rob us blind and you got your wish. Bush eliminated all the federal rules and regulations and deregulated the very industries that needed oversight the most.

Thanks Bushlovers for helping destroy the U.S. economy.

instrustion = intrusion

As for deregulation, that actually began under Carter, not Reagan. Carter deregulated airlines, trucking, railroads, oil and interest rates, and set up much of the deregulation machinery that Reagan would later use.

The chicken little argument is good, I cannot deny. To be clear, I do not think the sky is falling. But to state things are sound when three MAJOR financial institutions fail (these companies survived the depression for God Sakes) and three more on the verge is borderline delusional.

Now, since you brought liberals into it (which I did not), ask yourself this? If Al Gore had been president for the last 8 years (6 of which with democratic congress), what would your response be to all the financial news that has come out of wall street this year? Can you HONESTLY say that you would not have been would not have been chicken little? You would have CRUCIFIED Obama for saying the fundamentals of the economy are strong.

Remember, Denial is not a river in Egypt

Hmmmm, why not look at the real culprits Califdunce. See which corrupt politicians benefitted most from Fannie Mae Freddie Mac debacle...a debacle that makes Enron pale in comparison.

Hey, but you'll keep griping about Enron, I'm sure!

Irish...do some investigating into the bad loans. Also look deeper into Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac. I'm sure you'll find names like Chris Dodd and Barak Obonehead...probably Gore too.

AIG needs to take care of their own house and have a garage sell for the enormous amount of stuff they have.

You're full of it.

Bush had gotten rid of all the regulators for the banks and finance industries who should have been overseeing this financial mess before it got this far. Bush has made sure all our other government agencies (inspectors for the FDA and other consumer protection agencies) were intentionally underfunded so inspections could not be made and cause "a bother" to his corporate pals so we end up with poisoned crap from China and samonella from Mexico and all the rest of it.

BUSH made all the federal rules and regulations voluntary only for his corporate buddies and they took full advantage of it.

You can't blame this massive tossing out of the federal rules and regulations on other presidents -- not to the extent Bush did it and turned a blind eye.

Corporations wanted deregulation and a blind eye turned to all the fraud and abuse and no one to stand in the way of their profits. Well your boy Bush gave it to them.

Why do you think that fool wouldn't even come on television for more than 1 minute yesterday and speak?

Hoover, in fact, was an advocate of free trade but was out-voted by tariff-loving, protectionist Democrats in Congress.
The Great Depression was brought on -- and extended -- by trade barriers advocated most strongly by Democrats. These economic problems also fueled the rise of fascism in Europe and compelled the Japanese Empire to invade Korea and China.

POSTED BY VERNON

The American Congress and the American President might have been responsible for all the things you describe, but.. you have the party wrong ....

The majority in the House switched to the Democrats in 1931.
The majority in the Senat was this:

66th Congress (1919-1921)
Majority Party: Republican (49 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (47 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 96
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67th Congress (1921-1923)
Majority Party: Republican (59 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (37 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 96
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68th Congress (1923-1925)
Majority Party: Republican (53 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (42 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Farmer-Labor
Total Seats: 96
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69th Congress (1925-1927)
Majority Party: Republican (54 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (41 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Farmer-Labor
Total Seats: 96
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70th Congress (1927-1929)
Majority Party: Republican (48 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (46 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Farmer-Labor
Vacant: 1
Total Seats: 96
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71st Congress (1929-1931)
Majority Party: Republican (56 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (39 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Farmer-Labor
Total Seats: 96
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72nd Congress (1931-1933)
Majority Party: Republican (48 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (47 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Farmer-Labor
Total Seats: 96

My #37 was to Cabo Vato.

Sorry, CABOVATO

Mistake. My #37 was not to you, it was to --

#34 TheOneBS at 2008-09-16


I'll go have a cup of coffee - I obviously need it.

The jobs of the Republic party future:

www.youtube.com

Califdunce, once again your idiocy is shining bright.

Read my lips: Fannie Mae/Freddy Mac

Read my lips: Bad loans to those who can't pay back.

Read my lips: Chris Dodd, Barak Obonehead et.al


I don't find the Bush name on the recipients' list of the Freddie Mac - Fannie Mae corruption.

Do the math dumb dumb...or just keep bloviating dunce boy!


TheOneBallSack you're quite skilled at making things up, how many years have your keepers allowed your monkey self to sit at that keyboard?

"Hey, but you'll keep griping about Enron, I'm sure!"

That Phil Graham caused a lot of problems for this country but thankfully John McCain chose him for his chief financial officer before he had to fire him for calling Americans whiners. Thank God for that John, maybe you can get rid of the rest of the lobbyists that are driving the Straight Talk Express straight for a cliff.

"Read my lips: Bad loans to those who can't pay back."

Read my lips....lack of regulation led to this, now even McGraham admits it. I think it's another one of those I was against regulation before I was for regulation.

I get such a laugh when things go wrong and the Republicans here want to blame everyone except those who were in charge.

TheOneBallSack you're quite skilled at making things up, how many years have your keepers allowed your monkey self to sit at that keyboard?

Reply: Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac


Danni,

McBush will make Carly Fiorina Sec of Commerce, Labor or something equal in potential for damage. I'm gonna hate to watch as she provides the impetus to outsource every job in America that makes over $15K/yr. That's her primary claim to fame at HP. I know lot's of folks that worked there that are still reeling from her reign.

I guess your keepers need to leave you at the keyboard for awhile longer, you're still typing gibberish. Fannie and Freddie are in this state for many reasons and Bush's leave no unqualified homeowner behind falls on you guys.

I guess your keepers need to leave you at the keyboard for awhile longer, you're still typing gibberish. Fannie and Freddie are in this state for many reasons and Bush's leave no unqualified homeowner behind falls on you guys.

Reply: Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac - owned and run by Democrats from the beginning. Repubs have tried to reform these for quite a while.

You don't know squat regan58. And if there are any doubts by others out there, just ask yourselves why Dems like B. Hussein Obonehead are eerily quiet about this mess.

Keep bloviating you desperate libs. Your ship is sinking!


" ... the fundamentals of our economy are strong, We will clean up Wall Street." - JMcC

This, not the conceit that Sarah Palin is fit to Lead The Free World, is the great lie of Republicanism. And somehow illiterate cheerleaders of the Far Right, like Cato Vato and Theo Nebs, continue to echo the bullshit, no doubt figgering that if they do it loud enough and often enough, someone might buy.

Does one of them suggest that the few thinking people still hear a sky falling down when a Bush market has not merely pushed us all into the toilet, but is pulling the chain? herm

Herm, I noticed you are conveniently quiet on the corruption in FannieMae/FreddieMac.

Sometimes us illiterate cheerleaders have to say it over and over again to get past the inbred denial in Lib circles. Cockroaches don't like it when you turn on the lights either. But complaining about how often the light comes on makes you no less a cockroach!

McCain was For McCain Before he was Against McCain before he was For McCain.

5 years acting as the official communist party leader and speaker of the American POWS while squating in three feet of swamp water can play real havoc with one's mental state.

"Change we can believe in, if we're foolish enough to listen to a senile old man and his moose-hunting Meth Queen"

I'm John McCain and I approve of this Message

(before I disapprove of it!).

BTW: vermin got Schoooled!!!

Bwahahahaha!

The McCain comparison with Herbert Hoover I read here awhile ago is one of the best lines in a very bad week. We'll be reading it much more... and I've helped. Thanks for the comment:

radiomankc.blogspot.com

"...The fundamentals of Our economy are strong!"

This is true if your wife is a beer heiress and you can't remember exactly how many homes you have!

Now the rest of the country's economy....

Theonebs...

I am sure I will find Dodd's name there (though I doubt Obama to be honest). I am sure I would also find Neal Bush and Cheney and Abramhof and bunch of other politicos from both sides of the aisle.

However, you miss the point! It isn't that people are dishonest, we know that. When you deregulate EVERYTHING this types of corrections are bound to occur. The problem is, these corrections can ruin people's lives.

Less regulation is a good thing, but no regulation is not a good thing at all.

"Repubs have tried to reform these for quite a while."

Hahahahahahahaha!!!

"...just ask yourselves why Dems like B. Hussein Obonehead are eerily quiet about this mess..."

Better to let those who caused this mess to explain it away or deflect it. By their deeds you will know them!

"...Keep bloviating you desperate libs. Your ship is sinking!...Posted by TheOneBS..."

I suppose even Morons can have a dream!


"...just ask yourselves why Dems like B. Hussein Obonehead are eerily quiet about this mess..."


Better to let those who caused this mess to explain it away or deflect it. By their deeds you will know them!


Except that we both know that LibDems don't do this kind of thing. Silence is not like them...not at all. Just look at what they're doing with Palin.

Nope, if at the root of this FannieMae/FreddieMac nightmare was Republican corruption, we would be hearing about it, AND we would be hearing all kinds of made up BS surrounding it. Instead an eery silence from the LibDems.

The silence is deafening!

Lipstick on a pig.

THEONEBS gets very tiring, never anything except idiotic wild accusations about "Libdems". Just a troll.

Very true indeed Danni...his silence is deafening on the question I asked him. It would seem it is impossible for him to actually be anything but a partisan

Reply: Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac - owned and run by Democrats from the beginning.

#50 | Posted by TheOneBS at 2008-09-16 12:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Link with proof? Lush Rimjob newsletter notwithstanding or accepted.

I'd like one interviewer to ask this of McCain:

"Sen McCain, Can you please tell us exactly what are the 'fundamentals of our economy'? .....and why do you think they are so strong?"



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McCAIN IS FULL OF SHIT.

If we look realistically at the US economy, we see that what is not moved offshore is being bailed out. Last year, the US Department of Energy was authorized to make $25 billion in loans to auto manufacturing firms and suppliers of automotive parts. Last week the Secretary of the Treasury took $5 trillion dollars in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac home mortgages under its wing.

The open question is: what do these new liabilities do to the Treasurys own credit standing?

For now, this question is submerged. The traditional practice of fleeing to the US dollar and US Treasury bonds during periods of financial stress and uncertainty has boosted the dollar and kept interest rates low. But sooner or later the large US budget deficit, worsened by recession and bailouts, and the large trade deficit, which requires constant recycling of dollars held by foreigners into US financial and real assets, will result in renewed effort on the part of foreigners to lighten their dollar holdings.

When this time arrives, US interest rates will have to rise in order for the government to be able to continue to rely on foreigners to recycle the dollars acquired in trade to finance the US governments annual budget deficit.

Goods and services for American markets that US corporations outsource offshore return as imports, which widen the US trade deficit. Moving production offshore reduces US GDP and employment and increases foreign GDP and employment. Moving production offshore reduces the export capacity of the US economy while raising the import bill.

How is the budget deficit to be closed when jobs are disappearing and GDP (tax base) is being relocated offshore?

Not by higher taxes. Higher taxes are problematic for a recessionary economy in which unemployment, properly measured, is already in double digits (www.shadowstats.com).

Some people have speculated that the budget deficit will be closed by dismantling entitlement programs such as Medicare. Considering the cost of medical insurance, this would be catastrophic for tens of millions of older Americans.

The more likely avenue will be a raid on private pensions. Clintons appointee, Alicia Munnell, argued that private pensions should face a capital levy to make up for the fact that their accumulation was tax free. I expect that the federal government, faced with its own bankruptcy, will resurrect this argument.

In the 21st century, the US economy has been kept going by debt expansion, not by real income growth. Economists have hyped US productivity growth, but increased productivity has NOT raised family incomes. With consumers overloaded with debt and the value of their most important asset--housing--falling, the American consumer will not be leading a recovery.

A country that had intelligent leaders would recognize its dire straits, stop its gratuitous wars, and slash its massive military budget, which exceeds that of the rest of the world combined. But a country whose foreign policy goal is world hegemony will continue on the path to destruction until the rest of the world ceases to finance its existence.

Most Americans, including the presidential candidates and the media, are unaware that the US government is unable to finance its day-to-day operations and must rely on foreigners to purchase its bonds. The government pays the interest to foreigners by selling more bonds, and when the bonds come due, the government redeems the bonds by selling new bonds. The day the foreigners do not buy is the day the American people and their government are brought to reality.

This is not the financial position of a superpower.
Will what happened to Lehman Brothers today be Americas fate tomorrow?

excerpted from Counterpunch, Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review.

OK all you lemmings, calm down. I do not see what you'll are worried about. I doubt most of you have jobs or money anyway.

#13 | Posted by cabo_vato at 2008-09-16 11:04 AM | Reply | Flag:


........and that's what makes you a punch-line around here.

"Not by higher taxes. Higher taxes are problematic for a recessionary economy in which unemployment, properly measured, is already in double digits (www.shadowstats.com)."

The ALWAYS slip in their objection to taxes. I think that history shows that even in a depression as the 1929 depression it was government spending paid for by higher taxes on the wealthy that brought higher employment and rescued the economy.

He did this,-- he says, pointing to his (Blackberry) device. Telecommunications of the United States is a premier innovation in the past 15 years, comes right through the Commerce committee so youre looking at the miracle John McCain helped create and thats what he did.--

Blackberry is Canadian.

Blackberry is Canadian.

Oopsy-daisy.

"Blackberry is Canadian.
#68 | Posted by YAV at 2008-09-16 02:36 PM"

Well, the one I have says: "Made in Ontario."
Ontario's a part of California.
You really should czech your facts next time.
~John "Tom Swift" McCain

The Great Depression was brought on -- and extended -- by trade barriers advocated most strongly by Democrats. These economic problems also fueled the rise of fascism in Europe and compelled the Japanese Empire to invade Korea and China.


But in the world of Drunk_Sarvis, it's easier to just toss around "Hoover" as a blame-line. Actual book lernin' would be hard werk.

#2 | Posted by vernon at 2008-09-16 02:58 AM

"Cocaine Is A Hell Of A Drug"

-Rick James

McCain: 'The Fundamentals of Our Economy are Strong'

He was, of course, talking about himself, Cindy, and the rest of his rich buddies who are 'divorced from the realities of day to day life for the average American".

SARGE,

The general concensus among economists is that a severe curtailment of the money supply caused by the newly created Federal Reserve was the primary cause of the Great Depression. But we don't have that problem, the presses are working overtime. Our problem is rising debt, falling incomes, shrinking jobs.

Obama held a $28,000 a plate fundraiser in Beverly Hills which raised $9 million in one single day for his campaign. Apparently, the economy isn't quite that bad. :)

John Kerry and John Edwards each spend over $1,000 just for their friggin' haircuts! Jay Rockefeller, the Kennedys, and millionaires like Diane Feinstein prove it just ain't so bad out there for the rich libs.

I thought when the Democrats took over Congress that things would change for the better. Instead, the stock market has crashed, large financial institutions like banks and investment house are going under, the housing market crashe, gas is unafforable for many and the outlooks is gloomy. Oh, and we are supposed to put an inexperienced teleprompter reader like Obama in the White House? I think not!

Link with proof? Lush Rimjob newsletter notwithstanding or accepted.

money.cnn.com
Of course, they failed to mention that Obama tapped former Fannie chief and big-time Democrat James Johnson to run his vice presidential search - though Johnson was dumped after news reports surfaced that he had received favorable loan deals from mortgage lender Countrywide Financial

Franklin Raines is an ex-CEO of Fannie Mae. He was involved with an accounting scandal at Fannie Mae. Mr. Raines is an economic advisor to Obama. ...

"How can Obama go out with a straight face and saw it was Republicans who made this mess, when it is his key advisers who ran the agencies that made the big mess what it is?" says a Democrat House member who supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. "It's his people who are responsible for what may well be the single largest government bailout in history. And every single one of them made millions off the collapse that are lining Obama's campaign coffers. If the McCain campaign let's this one go, they deserve to lose."

It isn't just Fannie Mae where Obama has a problem. Another close political adviser, in fact the one man responsible for rallying support for Obama early on among Congressional Democrats, is Rep. Rahm Emanuel, who served on the Board of Directors for Freddie Mac after leaving the Clinton White House. According to Freddie Mac insiders, Emanuel during his time on the board opposed every reform proposed by the Bush Administration that would have impacted Freddie and Fannie Mae.

Emanuel claimed to be neutral in the primary race between the wife of his old boss and his longtime Chicago acquaintance, Obama. But the chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, who would be first in line for the vacated Senate seat of Obama should he win the presidency, quickly dumped Clinton when it was clear Obama had a head of steam for the nomination.

www.freerepublic.com

I thought when the Democrats took over Congress that things would change for the better. Instead, the stock market has crashed, large financial institutions like banks and investment house are going under, the housing market crashe, gas is unafforable for many and the outlooks is gloomy. Oh, and we are supposed to put an inexperienced teleprompter reader like Obama in the White House? I think not!

#74 | Posted by utastaff at 2008-09-16 05:14 PM

The DEM Congress Has No Power, The First VETO Bush Ever Issued Was Against The DEM Congress. The GOP Gonress Has Been In Power Since Bill Clinton Was In Office Until 18 Months Ago.

-Sarge

The DEM Congress Has No Power,

They have oversight and commitee powers. How well did they look into the federal reserve?

I thought when the Democrats took over Congress that things would change for the better. Instead, the stock market has crashed, large financial institutions like banks and investment house are going under, the housing market crashe, gas is unafforable for many and the outlooks is gloomy. #74 | Posted by utastaff at 2008-09-16 05:14 PM |

Yeah, the Dems laid the groundwork for this during the 18 months they've controlled Congress, over the objection of a GOP-controlled White House. Thank God we had a GOP lock on Congress for the preceding 144 months or we'd really be in a hell of a fix.

Quite the little Adam Smith, arentcha?

Among the fundamentals that are "strong": Employment in the manufacturing sector--you know, where they make things insted of conning people to spend their money on worthless securities--has declined for 24 months in a row.

Are these people delusional or just pathological liars?

Are these people delusional or just pathological liars?
#80 | Posted by johnjkavanagh at 2008-09-16 05:40 PM

(C) All of the above

Consumer confidence is in the toilet, consumer spending is in the toilet, consumer loans are in the toilet, the airlines are near major layoff and failure, the auto industry is near failure, the housing industry is in major crisis and the financial industry is in failure but


the republican mccain says the economy is fundementally great.

I don't know where he is living, with all those houses and all, but I can certainly see he hasn't been around America where normal middle America lives.


The fundamentals of the economy are in place, and the American economy is a mature one. Every once in a while the market goes through adjustments and corrections, and we are going through a phase. The economy will recover with reform, good leadership, and responsible regulations that discourages excessive greed and unhealthy speculations.

Some of the biggest losers: hedge funds.

The good Lord is shaking the economy to get it ready for the greatest econnmic miracle the world has ever seen (Hebrews 12:26-28).

"The good Lord is shaking the economy to get it ready for the greatest econnmic(sic) miracle the world has ever seen"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ROTFLMAO!

This place is always good for a few laughs.

Two hours after republican mccain said this mccain flip-flopped and said the economy is in the shitter.

Guess those public people he was speakin to let him have it with both barrels.

But lets start a commission on what happened. mccain

Hehehe.... I'm laughing too, Zatoichi....hehehehe....

I have to salute Thomas Friedman for being a bit prophetic....

Yes, drilling will help in the short term.... but once the energy solution (non-fossil) is introduced and produced to scale, the miracle begins... and America's debt will be wiped clean (naysayers, don't worry for your grandchildren, they'll have it better than you).

One company in this energy solution will skyrocket like Microsoft in its early days.

fucking mccain reminds me grandpa on the simpsons..

So, if we're talking about the labor pool being the "fundamentals", lets play ball.

1) The workers are seeing diminishing wages for equal or greater amounts of work. That's strong.
2) Benefits and retirement opportunities are drying up. Definitely strong.
3) With the cost of living rising given #1 above, clearly the average working American is quite strong!
4) Health care benefits drying up? Tough it out!
5) Savings evaporating due to reckless and unregulated financial markets? That's the free market, bitch!

So, by his logic, since we're not all dead, and whatever doesn't kill us makes us stronger, indeed, the fundamentals of America's economy are strong!

"Yes, drilling will help in the short term.... but once the energy solution (non-fossil) is introduced and produced to scale, the miracle begins... and America's debt will be wiped clean (naysayers, don't worry for your grandchildren, they'll have it better than you)."

Can't believe it but now it seems you're singing the same tune I have been. Now if you will just get with the program so we can get the incentives in place to make capital rush in that direction....by raising taxes on the rich but providing ample exemptions, credits or even subidies for real investment in alternative energy. Oh my goodness, think of all those jobs, think of the clean, cheap energy and think of giving the finger to the ME!

McCain's spin here is truely amazing. He wasn't talking out his ass. He was talking about the greatness of the American worker, by gum.....

By that "logic" all of industry is fundamentally strong. And that is obviously bullshit.

Have a nice day at werk, you little fundamentals you.
~John "Three Faces of Eve" McCain

I'm willing to set aside the McCain quote, since it's been taken completely out of context. What I found funnier, and absolutely inexplicable, was Palin claiming that the government needs to regulate the economy better, while at the same time advocating for the government to get out of the way of the free market.

Which one is it, Gov. Palin? In this case, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Which one is it, Gov. Palin? In this case, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

#92 | Posted by Kinger

Don't be too sure, Kinger.

"He was talking about the greatness of the American worker, by gum....."

Yep...and advocating outsourcing more of their jobs to make them prosperous. Riiight.
Free Trade = Outsourcing

This same jerk wants to give the corporation who do outsource 200 billion more in tax cuts, can't be taxing those profits they earn by outsourcing, that would be wrong.

But in the world of Drunk_Sarvis, it's easier to just toss around "Hoover" as a blame-line. Actual book lernin' would be hard werk.

#2 | Posted by vernon


You mean doc suckass is a moron? Noooo say it isn't so!

This same jerk wants to give the corporation who do outsource 200 billion more in tax cuts, can't be taxing those profits they earn by outsourcing, that would be wrong.

#94 | Posted by danni


Danni, open up ....time for your Thorazine

#95 | Posted by Libssuck at 2008-09-17 11:51 AM | Reply |

You talk about sucking so much, are you hoping that once your current turn on the wheel as a cockroach comes to an end you'll come back as a vacuumn cleaner?

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