"If (McCain) seriously thought this first-term governor with less than two years in office was qualified to be president, if necessary, at such a dangerous time, it raises profound questions about his judgment. If the choice was, as we suspect, a tactical move, then it was shockingly irresponsible."

Bingo!

He was thinking he had to kiss the talibaptists' asses without picking somebody who would outshine him like Huckleberry would.

Either that, or he borrowed some of Limberger's viagra and was thinking he'd get lucky. He was definitley thinking outside the (Cindi) box when he announced Palin...

What McCain was thinking, after being talked out of Lieberman by his advisers, was that any of the remaining, reasonable picks would have ended in a well-fought, utter defeat. McCain also probably thought that defeat was deserved, not personally, of course, but well deserved by his party.

But then his advisers and the GOP machine convinced him to shake up the race for the party. Palin isn't about winning the presidency, her selection is about limiting the losses in the House and Senate.

Na na na na...

NA NA NA NA...

Hey-Hey

Good Bye!!!!

And what was the Democratic party thinking when it nominated a corrupt neophyte who is unqualified to be PRESIDENT.

"No doubt impartial, independent minded people will be able to see the objective intelligence behind the piece. Conversely, clearly, only partisan hacks might take umbrage."

If it was written about Obama I would whole heartedly agree.

Why is all of this written about HER qualifications and NOTHING about his? What has he accomplished? Nothing except siphoning off money from the public to Rezco and Valeri Jarrett.

What Foreign Policy experience does he have? None - he voted to withdawal all the troops - which would have been the STUPIDIST decision. He not only voted to let new born babies DIE - he actually went to the floor to support that vote!

Talk all you want about Palin...but the facts coming flying back - If SHE isn't HE isn't and what is a bigger mistake - a VP or a PRESIDENT that is unqualified?

And the truth about the Gibson interview and the Bush Doctrine? Well there are 4 - read it from the guy WHO MADE UP THE TERM - Bush Doctrine.

Exactly... McCain's not what we need and this whole thing about Palin is scaring shit out of people. "Maybe war with the Russians? Holy Jeezus!

I caught another NYTimes columnist this morning on Fareek's new CNN show this morning... and he had Tom Friedman, an NYT columnist guest. Talking a lot of sense.

I took the liberty of devoting a blog page to him this morning and hope you have a look at it. It occurred to me that "conservative change" is an oxymoron, even if it comes from from the McCain-Joan of Ark ticket.

I think he picked failin palin because the oil companies wanted him to. the exchange is that they will make sure his campaign doesn't run out of money.

Obama is drawing the biggest crowds, drawing in the most money, making the most sense, trying to talk issues and McCain is ahead in the polls?I do not believe it. There is something very wrong here.
When Obama went overseas, he looked and acted presidential, and was received with respect, and the foreign people stated they were hoping for an Obama win. No bump in the polls. Obama bringing in the huge crowds and setting records for the money sent in, no bump. The fantastic convention should have boosted his ratings way up. Nothing. Choosing the popular Joe Biden and no bump. Are all these new people that are registering as Democrats going to vote Republican? Not likely!
The American people are going to miss the opportunity of curing this country of the Bush and the Republican led congress disasters. Obama is a highly intelligent man and has as his running mate a man who could step into the presidency if that became necessary.
I have been thinking for quite awhile that something is very wrong here. I believe they are again about to steal the election. Why are we always so helpless in stopping them?

"The truth about Gibson and the Bush doctrine...."

So you're one of those who think Godzilla Gibson unfairly stomped Palin's Tokyo? Hell, FOSHAFER, that in itself should tell you something about Palin.

And the truth about the Gibson interview and the Bush Doctrine? Well there are 4 - read it from the guy WHO MADE UP THE TERM - Bush Doctrine.

www.washingtonpost.com

#7 | Posted by foshaffer at 2008-09-14 04:13 PM

Well That Just Makes Her 4 TIMES The Dunb Ass !

She Could have Come Up With One Of 4 Correct Responses And She Didn't Get ANY !

Tell Her If She Can See Russia By Looking Out Her Window She Is Even A Bigger Liar !

-Sarge

NOW the media start to catch on!

But, WE...we have good ol' Foshitter to deflect.
Hey, dude! Have any more fake budget numbers for me to disprove?

NYT is a shamelessly and blatantly partisan and liberal paper. What a shame!

NYT is beneath fairminded and rational Americans.

Hmmmm, what was McCain thinking?

A better question is, "What is the Democratic Party thinking?"

Again, this mayor/governor has more executive experience than their presidential candidate. A first time senator who has been spending most of his time in the US Senate running for president is hardly a qualification to be president. And "communitity organizer" is a bogus qualification as well.

So why all the concern over the Republican VP candidate when the Democrat presidential candidate is nothing but a stuffed shirt attempting to gain the whitehouse via a popularity contest.

The griping around here is just hilarious.

"Again this mayor/governor has more executive experience than their presidential candidate...."

I'd say the real issue is that Palin is an unashamed liar and a possible traitor who has evident trouble thinking herself out of a paper bag.

"So why all this concern over a Republican VP candidate...?"

Because presidents die in office; because McCain is likely to. Because Palin can try to flirt with Putin but that's not likely to work.

Well to be fair, remember when the NY Times shredded John Kerry for picking a shockingly unqualified John Edwards to be one heartbeat from the Presidency...

I mean they literally tore him a... eh... er....

Oh, right... John Edwards has a dick. So they ignored it. Sorry, carry on trashing the woman...

The liberals are in shock and upset that McCain did the unthinkable: pick someone who could outObama Obama. And since the liberals cannot find their own Palin, they are doing everything to destroy McCain and Palin.

Michael Moore: silenced by Gustav.

Ayatollah Gloria Steinmen and her fatwa against Palin: all her disciples have no uterus, because they hate females.

Chris Matthews and Olbermann: demoted.

.... and much more....

The emergence of Sarah Palin has squeezed out the worst of the liberals --- for America to see!

Sarah, you go girl!

"Sorry, carry on trashing the woman...."

That's OK, Rob---Palin's doing a fine job all by her lonesome. We simply watch the spectacle and comment upon it.

Oh and remember how the NY Times completely broke down how a Junior Senator from Illinois who has spent half his time in office campaigning to be president has no experience or qualifications to actually be President let alone vice president...

Oh, right... balls... nevermind... let her have it Libs!!!

"Again this mayor/governor has more executive experience than their presidential candidate...."

I'd say the real issue is that Palin is an unashamed liar and a possible traitor who has evident trouble thinking herself out of a paper bag.

So why aren't you concerned more about putting a no-experience stuffed shirt Marxist into the Presidency, than you are concerned about a VP candidate possibly having to assume the presidency?

You're simply trying to make an issue out of the VP candidate rather than focus on the vacuous empty headed Democrat candidate for POTUS.

That's OK, Rob---Palin's doing a fine job all by her lonesome. We simply watch the spectacle and comment upon it.

#20 | Posted by Zed

Really? Because everyone says she rocked the convention speech, and I've read more then a few reviews saying she did fine in the interview (although they were canned answers)...

Oh and perhaps most importantly... McCain is winning in the polls now... even electoral-vote.com for the first time... ever.

But don't let that stop you from trashing the bitch... afterall she's trying to stop Token from being president... pull out all the stops Zed.

"Let her have it libs...."

Love to. Tell me, have you any idea where she is right now? Waiting for just the right moment to strike, do you think? Well, she's got a few weeks. No hurry.

The GOP Turns Into The Party Of Alan Alda !

Ha Ha Ha Ha

Palin Lies And Please Don't Pick On The Woman ! OMG After Palin Said Clinton Should Stop Whining

-Sarge

"I've read more than a few reviews she did fine in the interview...."

Did you see that interview? Be honest, what did you think?

"Marxist..."?

Obama a Marxist? Accepting that for a moment, do you know any Marxists advocating the dismemberment of the US or perhaps the secession of Illinois?

Yes, no, maybe?

Well, you've got one VP candidate that congratulates American secessionists for doing a good job. Have any curiosity at all why Palin likes those people so much or what she wants to get from them?

As we watch Obama supporters we keep wondering what on earth are they thinking. If they seriously think this first-term senator with 143 days of service, mostly spent voting present because he can't make a decision, is qualified to be president at such a dangerous time, raises profound questions about their judgment.

The following applies here as well:

"No doubt impartial, independent minded people will be able to see the objective intelligence behind the piece. Conversely, clearly, only partisan hacks might take umbrage."

Did you see that interview? Be honest, what did you think?

#26 | Posted by Zed

Fumbled a few more answers then I would have liked... had a lot of pre-packaged answers...

Grade: B at best...

Now you be honest, what was Charlie Gibson's motivation in that interview? I think it was to trap her, to get that "gotcha" moment so everyone would look back and say, "Charlie Gibson exposed her." Given his motivation, I'd say she did well, and he did very poorly.

Did you read Krauthammers report on it?

Love to. Tell me, have you any idea where she is right now?

No idea... but then again, I have no idea where McCain is... Biden is... Obama is.

The only thing I know for a fact is that if qualifications and experience were really this important to the Democrats they would have elected Biden in the Primaries... Obama winning shows you guys don't care about qualificiations.

Palin's secessionist ties fascinate me. I'm equally fascinated that the Right seems to accept them without a quiver. That's revealing.

You get the idea the Right would worry a lot more about Palin if she'd made a video for the Scientologists than one for people who by all appearances hate the United States.

"Did you read Krauthammer's report on it...?"

In some detail. It was crap. There's been several threads about it.

"You're simply trying to make an issue out of the VP candidate rather than focus on the vacuous empty headed Democrat candidate for POTUS."

It's interesting that Republicans keep saying how stupid the Democrats are for focusing on Palin. Anybody get the impression they would like this embarrassment to disappear?

ROB---If it was Gibson's desire to trap Palin, then the point your missing is it was too, too easy to do so.

Now, here's a real trap for you---I was dying to ask Palin to name the island you can see Russia from in Alaska. I know it, but I had the overwhelming intuition Palin did not.

"You're simply trying to make an issue out of the VP candidate rather than focus on the vacuous empty headed Democrat candidate for POTUS."

It's interesting that Republicans keep saying how stupid the Democrats are for focusing on Palin. Anybody get the impression they would like this embarrassment to disappear?

Embarrassment? HA! Isn't it more interesting that Democrats keep focussing on Palin instead of McCain? Let's remember, Palin is not the Repub. presidential candidate. Anybody get the impression that Dems realize how Palin makes Obama the embarrassment? Even Biden realizes this, saying that Hillary was probably the better choice.

Yep, them Dems are in a heap of trouble, and they know it. They are truly embarrassed over their empty shirt candidate who would lose to Palin if she were running for POTUS!

Embarrassment indeed!

Palin is a target rich environment. That's why she gets the attention, and the mockery. Catch SNL?

By the way, THEONEBS---What's your stand on the Alaska Independece Party?

In some detail. It was crap. There's been several threads about it.

#31 | Posted by Zed

Interesting people say it was crap when he's the one that first started using the term, "Bush Doctrine." I think that means he knows a thing or two about it.

If it was Gibson's desire to trap Palin, then the point your missing is it was too, too easy to do so

I didn't see it that way... mainly because the things he was trying to trap her on don't matter. Who gives a fuck if she said the Iraq war was a mission from God? I don't see how that matters, given that both administrations will pretty much end the war by 2012 (that is if they'd like to see themselves reelected). Or what difference does it make if Global Climate Change is man made or not? The solutions that we are capable of no matter what the cause remain the same...

I liked hearing that she disagrees with McCain on certain issues and is trying to change his mind but he's not... There were way too many "yes-men" in the Bush Admin.

"I think that means he (Krauthammer) knows a thing or two about it..."

The man knows exactly as much about the Bush Doctrine as he cares to on a given day. That's why he's a sophist.

Okay zed, fine... Krauthammer is full of it...

I guess this lady is too...

Don't know why I said Michael Abramowitz was a lady... but he's full of crap too I guess

"Experts say Palin's confusion understandable...."

ROB, I think all of my neighbors could have handled that "confusing" question much better than Palin did. This is because they are bright people who read the news.

What did I take from Palin's interview: she's not bright and she doesn't read news.

she's not bright and she doesn't read news.

#41 | Posted by Zed

I guess it was a failure then... because I'm sure you went into it as an independent voter with an open mind about Palin and John McCain...

Meanwhile, THEONEBS is considering how someone could support secession for the US and still be called a patriot.

Now, here's a real trap for you---I was dying to ask Palin to name the island you can see Russia from in Alaska. I know it, but I had the overwhelming intuition Palin did not.

Well She Must Be As Bad In Geography As McCain Because She Can't See Russia From Her Damn Window !

The Dumb Ass Doesn't Know What Or Where She Is Looking At !

-Sarge

Anti-Bush Graffiti: 25 Countries, Six Continents

Sarah Palin may be hurting McCain among Jewish voters

That put me back to Obama," said the real estate developer who splits his time between Michigan and Florida, both crucial swing states in the presidential election. "Don't misunderstand me. I'm not happy with Obama. But I'm certainly not happy with her."

Canvasser is part of a trend among some Jewish Democrats who have had doubts about Obama, particularly because of his lack of experience and his take on foreign policy issues such as Iran, but now find themselves inclined to support him after both sides selected their vice presidential nominees.

Webmaster's Commentary:
This entire article as a veiled threat...put Lieberman on the ticket or lose the Jewish vote and money.

Meanwhile, THEONEBS is considering how someone could support secession for the US and still be called a patriot.

Hmmmm, why not ask Obama and Biden who voted in favor of Akaka's bill which opened the door for Hawaii to do the same?

Hey, but when you're a Democrat, it's different!

No one seems to remember Harry Truman

The Akaka Bill refers to allowing native Hawaiians a reservation, like Native American reservations.

That would allow them to build a casino; they'd still be a part of the US.

As I recall this Bill, Hawaiians are asking for the island of Kahaloowee, about forty-five square miles and currently uninhabited, to serve as the reservation.

AND WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS THINKING?

CONSIDER:

What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican
mayor since 1961;

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952;

Newark, NJ (10th)...since 1907.

Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats --- yet they are still disadvantaged. Duhhhhhh

Hey, but let's vote for Obama! Maybe things will turn around and we can transform the entire nation into one of these wonder-cities!

Detroit, St. Louis, Philly...

These places are diversity zones.
African-American leadership zones.

No racism.
No corporate greed.

These great cities strugle under the heel
of white-sepremacy (Obama can fix this).

Obama will fix this!
GoBama08

Be Well.

The NYT is going broke. Hopefully Murdoch will buy it and get rid of that editorial staff.

Isn't it more interesting that Democrats keep focussing on Palin instead of McCain?
Posted by THEONEBS
And just as interesting that Republicans are doing the same. Just look at how popular he is when she isn't around. She is just a flash-in-the-pan. Her 15 minutes will be over soon.

Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

So by that logic THEONOBS thinks we should vote for McBush and Sarah Bush?

'(I)nsanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.'"

The loonie right continues to try to label our next president as a Moose-lim, a radical, a naif with zero experience and, for all I know, a child molester who drives a Hummer and drinks Coors.

It's not selling, far as I know, so they close their eyes and swing at what sounds like a curve whistling by. Pick a prepposterous enough idiot to join the geezer's ticket and maybe - just maybe - the idiots at the polls will buy. It worked with Nixon, Reagan and Bush 2. Dan Quayle, even. Why not again? herm

So what has Obonehead done that makes him a more qualified a candidate than, let's say, Sarah Palin?

Let's pretend that Rudy-boy didn't hit the nail on the head at the RNC when he laughed at the title "Community Organizer." Tell us why Obonehead is more qualified to be president than his VP running mate...or even a Dan Quayle.

Dems know Obonehead is an empty suit who does well behind a teleprompter, but the silence is deafening when they are asked to list Oboneheads qualifications. To tell us then.

NOTE: Please attempt to answer without bringing up Bush, McCain, Palin or whomever your particular RNC whipping boy/girl happens to be. Focus instead on Obonehead's qualifications. Can you tell us?

Do you think he was thinking about sex? Nah, probably how Limbaugh would ream him one if if didn't pick an empty skirt with sex appeal to Ditto heads.

Guess McSame forgot that real strength requires serious thought and preparation.

The NYT is perhaps the world's most respected newspaper. It's impartiality and objectivity are beyond dispute. Notice, it is only the right wing hacks whining about this editorial.

Sarah a big hit in Nevada. Now the liberals are realizing they cannot MISUNDERESTIMATE Sa-rah!

The NYT is perhaps the world's most respected newspaper. It's impartiality and objectivity are beyond dispute. Notice, it is only the right wing hacks whining about this editorial.

LOL...LOL...LOL....LOL!!!!

Yes, and so respected are they that more and more subscribers are cancelling their subscriptions!

Only left wing hacks are unable to wake up and smell the coffee. Hey, but ignorance can be blissful.

"Hey, but ignorance can be blissful."

Obviously THEONEBS embraces that concept.

What's the matter DANNI? Seeing things slipping away? You who are/were so confident in a Democrat becoming president are now reduced to attempts at insulting me?

LOL

Turn out the lights, the party's over! Now let's talk about how the Repbubs are "stealing" the election. LOL...LOL

I feel sorry for Libs! But I'm also enjoying immensely watching them in their self-destruct mode. LOL

"The NYT is perhaps the world's most respected newspaper. It's impartiality and objectivity are beyond dispute. Notice, it is only the right wing hacks whining about this editorial.

#59 | Posted by moder8"

Impartiality and objectivity? What?

The Times is pretty well-known for having a liberal slant in its editorial staff, with writers like Paul Krugman, Thomas Friedman, and even (to some) Maureen Dowd. I like the Times a lot, and maybe the paper itself is balanced and impartial, but trying to argue that the editorial staff isn't liberal-slanted is like trying to argue that the sun orbits around the Earth. It's just not true.

New York Time, left wing rag, nuff said.

guess you thought that way when judith regan was touting those Iraqi WMD

Always have thought the New York Times was a left-wing rag even when they publih a token right-of-center story.

BTW wasn't she fired by the NYT?

Calling the NY Times "liberal" or "slanted" is preposterous on the face of it, but maybe the same people who'd buy Sarah Palin as leader of the free world would buy that.

There may be a few "libs" on the Times staff. People who deal with the events of the day on a regular basis surely couldn't be anything else.

But the Times is corporate-owned, a solidly Republican cash cow with credentials on the stock exchange. It has evolved from merely reporting on the problem to BEING part of the problem. herm

Irresponsible at best.

What was McCain Thinking ?

......not much.......

....it will be a sad day for America if those two wind up in office......

***** obama is a fool, a harvard quotaniggah, a crook, a socialist, and a baby hating fag lover.

.....Posted by Libssuck ******

......can't get past the black thing, eh?.......

amazing skizziks, if blacks vote for him because he is black i suppose they are progressive and in your eyes, "past the black thing" if whites don't want to vote for him it must be because he is black and can't get past the black thing. He is a quota out of harvard, nothing more, not a brain, not even a good speaker on his feet without a teleprompter, I might at some point vote for a black, but not this one , he might be qualified to harvest melons, but not run a country.

Utterly amazing, L'suck. Here we have the best qualified, most promising presidential candidate since JFK, and you continue with the racist bullshit. McBush and The Barracuda speak without teleprompters? You MIGHT at some time vote for a black? Better hurry. Clarence Thomas, Alan Keyes, Uncle Tom Sowells and Ward Connerly are aging fast. herm

..libsuck...

....if yours was more than a racist rant....you would not have called him a "quotaniggah".....this phrase is a clear indication of your bottom line...

......I am 55 year old white man....and in my judgement....Obama is the best person of the candidates running to lead America......

I am 55 year old white man....and in my judgement....Obama is the best person of the candidates running to lead America......

#76 | Posted by skizziks

Based on what? It appears you have no judgment.

Here we have the best qualified, most promising presidential candidate since JFK, and you continue with the racist bullshit.

The word moron comes to mind with your logic; can you articulate what makes him qualified? or spew more of the mantra he is for change??

What makes Obama qualified? My mind boggles. Academic credentials that lap McC-Sarah huffing and puffing around the track. more legislative experience than Lincoln and JFK upon taking office. More IQ than the two Repubs added together.

Repubs lave lately deflected any suggestion that the I-was-a-POW legacy at the bottom of his USNA class and the Alaska Airhead accused of balling her hubby's partner are more than a cynical Wall Street/Madison Avenue to sell a lipsticked pig.

Libssuck, you suck. And you won't fly.. herm

And you won't fly.. herm ...

Ok Sperm, more experience than Lincoln or JFK, how so and at what, community organizer? BFD! Academic credential? a law degree does not make one qualified to run a country nor teach you that there are not 57 states. .

Libsucker, I told you what you asked and now you argue. But ... not just a law degree, a Harvard magna cum laude degree and editor of the most prestigious campus publication anywhere, the Harvard Law Review. You wanna compare that to barely getting through Annapolis or taking up sports announcing at the College of Idaho? herm

"a law degree from a school that admits cons "

So let's judge McCain by the worst of Annapolis, and Palin by the worst of North Idaho University.

But ... not just a law degree, a Harvard magna cum laude degree and editor of the most prestigious campus publication anywhere, the Harvard Law Review. You wanna compare that to barely getting through Annapolis

Let's see here. One served his Country and the other served himself? Wasn't Obama's moral failure during these years?

"One served his Country and the other served himself?"

What a jagoff statement. Obama could have commanded twenty times what he made as a community organizer. Instead, he lived as a pauper and served his community in the way Republicans have claimed folks should, but as always, laugh at when people's backs are turned.

"Wasn't Obama's moral failure during these years?"

Says the guy supporting the gold-digging adulterer.

What a jagoff statement. Obama could have commanded twenty times what he made as a community organizer. Instead, he lived as a pauper and served his community in the way Republicans have claimed folks should, but as always, laugh at when people's backs are turned.

Almost like the dems who laugh at those who join the military? Who do you think will win that argument? Like I said one served his country the other served himself.

"Wasn't Obama's moral failure during these years?"

I take that as a yes.

"Like I said one served his country the other served himself."

You're right: one took a job at 1/20th of what he could have earned to help his community, and one left his faithful, disfigured wife for a rich young heiress he had been banging to further his political career.

You're right: one took a job at 1/20th of what he could have earned to help his community, and one left his faithful, disfigured wife for a rich young heiress he had been banging to further his political career.

McCain didn't divorce until he was 43. When Obama was doing his so called service McCain was serving his Country. Another danforth theory?

"When Obama was doing his so called service McCain was serving his Country"

And when Obama was going to school, McCain was crashing Navy planes and fucking around on his wife. What's your point, that they were born in different decades?

And when Obama was going to school, McCain was crashing Navy planes and fucking around on his wife. What's your point, that they were born in different decades?

Very simple point. One was have moral failures at the same age as the other serving his Country. Who wins this politcal argument?

And when Obama was going to school, McCain was crashing Navy planes and fucking around on his wife. What's your point, that they were born in different decades?

One of them was higher than a fucking kite.

" One was have moral failures at the same age as the other serving his Country. "

You're right...at the same age Obama was making 1/20th of what he could, and instead helped his community and his country, McCain was crashing taxpayer-purchased planes, committing adultery, and lusting after an heiress who could finance his political ambitions.

But that's not the "moral failures" you're talking about, right?

"One of them was higher than a fucking kite."

Come now...you don't really believe that's the reason Cindy fell for him...do you?

But that's not the "moral failures" you're talking about, right?

I don't know danforth. Obama said his biggest moral failure was doing drugs and partying.

McCain was crashing taxpayer-purchased planes, committing adultery, and lusting after an heiress who could finance his political ambitions.

So McCain knew about Cindy a decade before he met her? That's the third danforth theory in the last hour.

"Obama said his biggest moral failure was doing drugs and partying"

Let him without sin cast the first stone. I'm sure Palin, who was getting high while she had a toddler, would have a lot to say.

"So McCain knew about Cindy a decade before he met her?"

You're right, again...he was fucking around with others before Cindy. But WTF...you're going day-by-day? How far are you going to stretch this? Obama gave up drugs at a young age...McCain didn't (ostensibly) give up adultery until his 40s. Obama graduated near the top of his class; McCain near the bottom. Obama passed on jobs paying much more; McCain married an heiress.

Danforth,
I could have sworn we were talking about where they were at the same age. Obama said his moral failures were partying and doing drugs. How old do you think he was when he refers to thos failure? 15,16? He was doing this at the same age Mccain was serving. End of argument.

I'm sure Palin, who was getting high while she had a toddler, would have a lot to say.
Posted by Danforth

Did I miss another DR/KOS exclusive backround check?

" He was doing this at the same age Mccain was serving. End of argument."

Sorry...if you're doing that, then at the age when Obama was honorably serving in the Illinois and US Senate, McCain was crashing Navy planes and committing adultery with a rich heiress who could financially back his political ambitions. But, conveniently, you only want to cover a few months or years. What a tool.

Which do you consider a greater moral failure? Doing drugs and partying, or committing adultery multiple times and leaving a faithful, disfigured wife? Obama grew up, and put the drugs behind him while he was still in his twenties. McCain, otoh, was still committing adultery in his forties. Which ages do you want to compare?

"Did I miss another DR/KOS exclusive backround check?"

No, you missed Palin's own admission.

Danforth

You forget. To Republicans, anything done in their forties can be explained away as youthful indiscretions.

"Did I miss another DR/KOS exclusive backround check?"

No, you missed Palin's own admission.

#99 | Posted by Danforth

I'm sure I did. Link? Or should I just go to KOS?

"Link? Or should I just go to KOS?"

Why don't you go to the Internets? Ever heard of the Google?

"On Aug. 6, 2006, the Anchorage Daily News reported, Palin said she has smoked marijuana remember, it was legal under state law, she said, even if illegal under U.S. law but says she didnt like it and doesnt smoke it now. I cant claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled."

What Was McCain Thinking?

Probably..."please don't let me shit my pants !!!"

Palin's secessionist ties fascinate me. I'm equally fascinated that the Right seems to accept them without a quiver. That's revealing.

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2008-09-14 05:38 PM | Reply

This entire line of thought fascinates me. She went to a few meetings of a group that seeks a VOTE on the POSSIBILITY of seceeding. Not violent overthrow. Just a vote. And it's just one minor thing the group talks about.

There are groups like this active all over the US. And it's a moot point. The Civil War sort of ended that discussion.

It's not as though she had been taking advice for 20 years about how much to hate America.

You criticize Bush for his lack of curiosity, and his lack of knowledge about different ideas. And now you criticize Palin for just the same thing.

isn't that called hypocrisy?

anything done in their forties can be explained away as youthful indiscretions.

#100 | Posted by TedBaxter at 2008-09-15 07:52 PM | Reply

Would that include winning the Democrat nomination on the hubris that your ego and personality qualify you as presidential material?

What about the fools who nominate someone in their indiscreet forties to be president?

Hey Vern, just acknowledge that she is an unqualified right wing hack, and let it go. That McCain would really foist her on the electorate of this nation is horrifying. But that large portions of the electorate might still fall for it is insane.

John let mini McCain do his thinking. The republicans are doing it too. If I hear someone say "MILF" one more time about palin I'm going to puke.

Not just hearing it here, either...

The bias from the left on Palin is at the same time shocking and funny. Shocking because in their reckless abandon to destroy a working woman and her family they have show themselves as the superficial hypocrites they are. The democratic party, with their allies the liberal media and their half-witted friends in Hollywood have trampled everything they claim to be democratic values, compassion, womens rights, empathy for the working class to name a few. Funny because the more they open their mouths to attack Palin the rank and file democrats see the party for the hypocrites they are and the higher McCain travels up in the polls.

To quote an excerpt of an article from the William Crystal.

By the end of the week, after Palin's tour de force in St. Paul, the liberal media were so befuddled that they were reduced to complaining that conservatives aren't being narrow-minded enough. Thus, Hanna Rosin--who has covered religion and politics for the Washington Post, and has also written for the New Yorker, the New Republic, and the New York Times--lamented in a piece for Slate: "So cavalier are conservatives about Sarah Palin's wreck of a home life that they make the rest of us look stuffy and slow-witted by comparison."

Amen Billy, Amen.

" He was doing this at the same age Mccain was serving. End of argument."

Sorry...if you're doing that, then at the age when Obama was honorably serving in the Illinois and US Senate, McCain was crashing Navy planes and committing adultery with a rich heiress who could financially back his political ambitions. But, conveniently, you only want to cover a few months or years. What a tool.

I'm a tool because you failed to understand how I compare McCain and Obama when they were the same age? I say McCain was serving his Country as a late teen and Obama was partying it up. Your comeback is McCain divorced his wife some two decades later. How did you put it I want to cover a few months or years? Says the guy who argues over 180 months and 15 years later? Classic.

For embroidering on a doily to hang on the walls of thinking voters everywhere:

"That McCain would foist her off on the nation is horrifying. But that anyone might fall for it is insane." herm

***** You criticize Bush for his lack of curiosity, and his lack of knowledge about different ideas. And now you criticize Palin for just the same thing.
isn't that called hypocrisy?... Posted by vernon ****

.......no........

........they are two of a kind........