Except my brother and son.

Always thought Nixon should've been tried and, if found guilty, put in a striped suit and shoved into a cage. Ford pardoning that bum only reinforced the perception that some people in this country are, indeed, above the law.

......war criminals should be tried........

......war criminals should be tried........

#3 | Posted by skizziks

I loved Nixon in my youth. Then i found out he was a common criminal and i have not been the same since.

He said, 'We will not go into cambodia', meaning to escalate the war. the first thing he did after being elected was to go into cambodia.

I don't know how long before nixon that presidents and staff have been pardoned, but we need a constitutional admendment that says no one, even the president will be pardoned except by a majority vote of congress after being applied for by the president.

except slickster.

I don't know how long before nixon that presidents and staff have been pardoned, but we need a constitutional admendment that says no one, even the president will be pardoned except by a majority vote of congress after being applied for by the president.
Lipzoidial your just a paranoid and hate filled idiot. Working today?

better get rid of Nancy first

Yes i am
Nyaa, nyaa nyaa!

Dick PrePardoned Cheney.

Me too!

Speedy I forgetwhatsecretdocumentsItook Gonzalez.

"better get rid of Nancy first"

Nancy wouldn't have anything to do with a normal Justice Dept. investigation and indictment.

I think Biden would be well advised to get elected before he starts talking about charging anyone with anything. Bush/Cheney only need to feel that they will be indicted to then start WWIII and declare Martial Law.

In all seriousness, this is nothing but major pandering big time.

Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said during a Florida campaign stop this week that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.

If a criminal offense has been committed, it should be pursued whether or not they are elected.

"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued not out of vengeance, not out of retribution, out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no attorney general, no president -- no one is above the law."

What's the problem? Biden said "if." Does goverment oversight and ethics McCain/Palin style advocate this:

"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will NOT be pursued, especially if you are talking about the president because, you know, criticizing the president is like criticizing your pastor. You can do it, but then you'll go to hell."

....aren't Biden's own family members getting special treatment, legally speaking? I remember reading something about that.

If a criminal offense has been committed, it should be pursued whether or not they are elected.

If they aren't elected, then it will be up to McCain/Palin to do the pursuing, unless the Dems retain control of one or both houses of congress.

Biden said they have nothing on Bush so why even mention it?

Was this another of Joe's drunken Stump Speech moments?

BYDEN KISSED OBAMA`S ASS AND SAY IT SMELLS GOOD.....

Great Obama steals his lines from "The American President," and this douchebag is stealing them from "Judge Dredd."

Can't wait Obama to work, "I wish I knew how to quit you," into his opening remarks of the first debate.

BYDEN KISSED OBAMA`S ASS AND SAY IT SMELLS GOOD.....

#16 | Posted by BADAOPHAY

Who doesn't love the smell of cocoa butter?

Danni, I don't think ush and Cheney are worried. Pelosi and Redi can't find their asses with both hands... they have had 2 years to put up or shut up, and they have done neither...

Question for the DR community: Does anyone recall Obama already being on record as saying he will not pursue charges if elected? i thought I saw that linked on here some time back... if so, is Biden running off the reservation on this, ior is he being used as the attack dog?

I predict Biden strokes out long before McCain is in the ground. All it takes to make Biden's forehead bolus throb is to serve him his tuna on wheat instead of white. Him surviving the campaign without keeling over will be a miracle.

Rob, He flubbed the line. It was supposed to be from Segal's "Above the Law"

Biden Toscani:You guys think you're above the law. Well, you ain't above mine

Sounds like the 2006 election all over again. Next it will be how the dems will lower gas prices, stop earmarks and spending... All those lies which got them into power. Of course a 11% approval rating may dummy them up if they think about it.

If they aren't elected, then it will be up to McCain/Palin to do the pursuing, unless the Dems retain control of one or both houses of congress.

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2008-09-04 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

".....unless the Dems retain control of one or both houses of congress."

Hmmm, your words....so how has that worked out so far. LOL.

Biden and his crook son are not above the law either. And neither are Obama and his buddy Resko.

"so how has that worked out so far. LOL."

#22 | Posted by ride_on

Cut them some slack. As long as there is at least 1 republican still in office, even if it's at the municipal level, it's not their fault that they're not getting anything done.

Every reasonable and fair person whould agree that if criminal conduct was committed, it should be fully investigated. And if sufficient evidence of crimes exist, prosecutions should ensue. This basic tenant of justice should apply not only to poor inner city unknowns, but to Presidents and Vice Presidents as well. Only people with misguided partisan agendas could disagree with this proposition. Let's not allow politics to stand in the way of truth and justice, regardless of who it implicates.

Eh Joe, you didn't have to wait to this moment. You do know who the Speaker of the House is.....don't you. Joe....JOE!!!!!!!!

OK, the dirty little secret is out.. ... criminalization of policy.. a favorite pastime of Joseph Stalin, is not too surprisingly going to be used by his disciple Barack the Holy One.

here's how it goes... "we hate Bush, therefore Bush is a criminal.

They also hate working and productive americans.. so get ready..

Yes Republicans all over the world need to get locked up!!!

Even the Republic of Paraguay?

Yes Republicans all over the world need to get locked up!!!

Man I hate being right all the time!

Let's not allow politics to stand in the way of truth and justice, regardless of who it implicates.

Dude. You're on DR.

Yes Republicans all over the world need to get locked up!!!

#28 | Posted by rastaninja

Don't you think we shoud address the 57 States first?

......war criminals should be tried........

Especially if they go before Congress and admit to war crimes committed by other people, including themselves.

Granted, the others can testify that they didn't - but the accuser admitted his own war crimes.

That's the main reason I couldn't vote for him for Presdient. He was a self-confessed criminal.

Moder,

Kudos to your 2:25pm post. 100% agree.

As the Governor of the fifth third state of Happy-land I resent that remark!

Don't you think we shoud address the 57 States first?

#32 | POSTED BY WISGOD

Nope...

We can start by locking you up first!!!

Nope...

We can start by locking you up first!!!

#36 | Posted by rastaninja
If I get three squares and a cot, it sounds more attractive than living outdoors if your Boy get's elected.

I imagine utopia for us all once Obama is Prez. Socialism will be the greatest lifestyle you could ever imagine.

Talk about desperation, Elect us and we will put Bush in Jail.-- HEHeHe

That falls into the same category as buying votes. Which coming from Chicago politics Obama most likely has perfected the art.

I like how he was recorded making the statement and now when questioned he's saying he did not. Funny how in the modern electronic age you can't get away with this anymore.

Don't you think we shoud address the 57 States first?

#32 | POSTED BY WISGOD

You may need to check his paygrade.

I imagine utopia for us all once Obama is Prez. Socialism will be the greatest lifestyle you could ever imagine.

#38 | Posted by rastaninja

I have more of a vision of running around in the cornfield, and being shot in the neck.

I have more of a vision of running around in the cornfield, and being shot in the neck.

Is this a re-occurring dream, like every four years?

I have the same dream only mine has clowns!

******......war criminals should be tried........

Especially if they go before Congress and admit to war crimes committed by other people, including themselves.
.......#33 | Posted by Petrous *******

......agreed .......all war criminals should be tried......

......we will need an independent AG who is not in cahoots with the criminals...then we can procedd....

What kind of name is midtowncowboy anyway? sounds like a faggot with a cowboy hat that sells $5 blowjobs for crack money.

#45 | Posted by Lipzoidial

Oh, Lipz....
*shaking my head.

Just call him Rhinestone and move on.

Oh, Lipz....
*shaking my head.
Just call him Rhinestone and move on.

#46 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

I know, HC, you're very disappointed in me! I'm sorry, dude, I just can't help myself. I need a martini and a motivational speech.

I need a martini and a motivational speech.

#47 | Posted by Lipzoidial

No, you need the same thing the Scarecrow needed.

because we have two separate sets of laws
Yes we do. The last president that violated the law did not receive any punishment. Know who that was?

"The last president that violated the law did not receive any punishment."

Other than being impeached, publicly humiliated, disbarred by the US Supreme Court and the State of Arkansas, you mean?

pencil-necks,

Every president has broken the law. Every single one. But the pardoning process is out of order. WTF is pre-emptive pardoning?

Let the president have pardoning ability with congressional oversight, checks and balance, that's all i'm saying.

And when you figure out how to go back in time, we'll go back and punish the other ones.

"Every president has broken the law. Every single one."

The William Henry Harrison Fan Club might disagree.

Only because he didn't have enough time, Danforth!

You and Wisgod double-teaming him in the shower?

#51 | Posted by Lipzoidial

You may want to throw in with 726 and AmericanUnity. Maybe the three of you could manage a respectable, collective comeback.

Only if you all wear Michael Phelps masks.

-AmericanUnitard

Joe (MOTOR MOUTH) Biden is a LIAR.

This morning on FOX News Motor Mouth was asked if he and FLOP EARS won the election, would they bring criminal charges against Pres. Bush. Motor Mouths response, "I haven't heard that.

This guy runs at the mouth so much he can't remember what he said last. How you liberal ASSHOLES can vote for these two I don't understand. Maybe that is why you are refered to as ASSHOLES.

**** Yes we do. The last president that violated the law did not receive any punishment. Know who that was?
...#49 | Posted by midtowncowboy ******

....that's easy......GW Bush.......

......still......he's not dead yet .....and once an independent AG is selected...the prosecutions can start......

Hee hee.

I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.
-AmericanversionVan

......or did you mean the President before that one ?......

**** How you liberal ASSHOLES can vote for these two I don't understand.
..#57 | Posted by ozzieoswald ******

.....because we are smarter than you......

....that is also why you do not understand......

manage a respectable, collective comeback.

#55 | Posted by wisgod

that was pretty funny. not enough for a FF, but close.

****** What kind of name is midtowncowboy anyway?
....#45 | Posted by Lipzoidial ******

.........all hat......no cattle.........

that was pretty funny. not enough for a FF, but close.

#63 | Posted by Lipzoidial

Be sure to write it down and share it with Larry and Curley.

The Two Joe Bidens:

BIDEN #1
When asked during a campaign event in Deerfield Beach, Florida, whether he would "pursue the violations that have been made against our Constitution by the present administration", Biden answered in the affirmative.

"We will not be stopped from pursuing any criminal offence that's occurred," he continued, going on to praise congressional committees for the deliberate pace of their inquiries into alleged Bush administration misdeeds.

Great post Joe ,and a great gaff by happy hour Biden.

Ditto to Joe. Biden 1 was also speaking to a hip crowd at the Deerfield Beach nursing home. He can really work a crowd can't he?

See if you guys agree with this;

A constitutional admendment that prevents any executive orders, pardons or other law instruments except as has been agreed by congress.

If it has national security implications, then congress will decide if the state of national security compromise is real and if so, will allow the president to act unilaterally.

The problem here is that one or two people cannot be allowed to circumvent the constitutional check and balance system, otherwise, as bush said, 'it's just a god-damned piece of paper.' and if that person has pardonning powers, well, they can do anything they want with no oversight.

I am not even interested in prosecuting bush/cheney even though they deserve it. We need to fix it where it cannot happen again without accountability.

Biden has lost it.... the dems are super mad.... Lehi angry and Waxman faultfinder and Conyer revengeseeker.

Because God explicitly said Bush will not be touched, I think Obama and Biden might lose.

"Because God explicitly said Bush will not be touched"

I call bullshit. Link, please?

What link?

Was this another of Joe's drunken Stump Speech moments?

#15 | Posted by wisgod

He doesn't drink. Try something else

JOE: Joe (Motor Mouth) Biden spoke today in Deerfield, FL and said the opposite. Where I come from thats called lying.

AMERICANUNITY knows what I mean. Give me MO!

No one's above the law???

That's NOT what Joe Biden thought when Clenis was President.

Great Obama steals his lines from "The American President," and this douchebag is stealing them from "Judge Dredd."

Can't wait Obama to work, "I wish I knew how to quit you," into his opening remarks of the first debate.

#17 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-09-04 02:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

You actually think that 'nobody is above the law' is from Judge Dredd? That's to who you're going to attribute that quote?

OMG....wow.....just...........
WOW!

****** "we hate Bush, therefore Bush is a criminal.

#27 | Posted by nmg_no *******

.......I don't hate Bush, anymore than I hate Billy the Kid......but both are criminals.......

...... difference is that Bush killed a lot more people, and hasn't been brought to justice yet......

***** Because God explicitly said Bush will not be touched, I think Obama and Biden might lose.

#68 | Posted by takitez *******

........and does God also talk to you when you get your medication.?...or just when you go without for a while.?......

No One is Above The Law Mr.Biden??? Well what about Israel - you Fucking Hypocrite!!!

Gee Joe does that mean that anybody that cheats in college should be kicked out?

Does this also include good old joe??? better watch out what you say joe. boomerangs have this way of coming back to bite you on the ass you speak out of.

Maybe he needs to go after Kennedy before it's to late also!

Because God explicitly said Bush will not be touched, I think Obama and Biden might lose.

#68 | Posted by takitez

Whew, imagine the power that takitez has, he knows Gods plans and forecasts.

Takitez, can you tell me what Exxon stock is gonna do next week, i need to move around some investments. And since you have the inside line, maybe you can keep the next natural disaster from taking so many lives.

Oh, i forgot God only tells you the things you want him to tell you. Fantastic, the hypocracy of these christian mental cases !!!!

While the national media is busy creating scandal out of the fact that Sarah Palin went to numerous non-Ivy League schools (yes, seriously), the Delaware News Journal has a devastating and disturbing piece on how Joe Biden has repeatedly slandered the man involved in the car crash that killed Bidens first wife and daughter.

In several public statements over the years, Biden has insinuated that the man who caused the 1972 crash was drunk. The man cannot defend himself. He passed away in 1999. His family grieves.

But hey, who cares about Bidens lies? Time to slander Gov. Palin and her family some more!

Heres the intro of the N-J piece, but make sure to read to the end. And check out the comments from people who know Joe Biden best:

Since his vice presidential nomination, Joe Bidens 2007 statement that a guy who allegedly drank his lunch-- and drove the truck that struck and killed his first wife and daughter has gained national media traction.
Alcohol didnt play a role in the 1972 crash, investigators found. But as recently as last week, the syndicated TV show Inside Edition aired a clip from 2001 of Biden describing the accident to an audience at the University of Delaware and saying the truck driver stopped to drink instead of drive.--

The senators statements dont jibe with news and law enforcement reports from the time, which cleared driver Curtis C. Dunn, who died in 1999, of wrongdoing.

Biden sure is a piece of work. Anything for one more vote.

How funny;

Clinton perjured himself yet biden voted "not guilty". No one is above the law unless you are a democrap.

A constitutional admendment that prevents any executive orders, pardons or other law instruments except as has been agreed by congress.

If it has national security implications, then congress will decide if the state of national security compromise is real and if so, will allow the president to act unilaterally.

#67 | Posted by Lipzoidial

I'm not sold on the amendment. Not that I don't like it - it just needs to be polished.

As for national security implications, I don't think it should be Congress. National Security issue? Let the President talk to the Speaker of the House, the Senate Majority leader, and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

If you can get the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial to agree, then I'd accept the National Security implication.

constitutional admendment that prevents any executive orders, pardons or other law instruments except as has been agreed by congress.

If it has national security implications, then congress will decide if the state of national security compromise is real and if so, will allow the president to act unilaterally.

#67 | Posted by Lipzoidial

I'm not sold on the amendment. Not that I don't like it - it just needs to be polished.

As for national security implications, I don't think it should be Congress. National Security issue? Let the President talk to the Speaker of the House, the Senate Majority leader, and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

If you can get the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial to agree, then I'd accept the National Security implication.

How in the hell are you going to get these people to agree? FOOLS
It works just fine the way i is.

You know what really scares me? Idiots on this site actually think they know what the fuck they are talking about.

Constitutional ammendments, give me a freaking break.

Do you really think the states would agree to this?

One word: Liar.

Biden=politician=liar.

You know what really scares me? Idiots on this site actually think they know what the fuck they are talking about.

Constitutional ammendments, give me a freaking break.

Do you really think the states would agree to this?

#87 | Posted by cabo_vato

They agreed to the 16th

What does that have to do with this idea?

Biden would never try to bring up criminal charges against Bush because he would be forced to explain his ties to Mahmud Ahmed and Pakistani ISI. (Which will make him just as criminally liable as Dubya.)