Good to know but I doubt I'll read it unless the fanatical Moslems make a big deal about like they did the Satanic Verses which only caused me to read that. Their choice.

Buying a book is a great way to stand up to those radical Muslims, Scotch, but if one of those crazy Muslims said "Boo", I bet you would go running to ypur mommy.

Gee fwthom I never realized you were a crazy Moslem kinda guy.

Buying a book is a great way to stand up to those radical Muslims, Scotch, but if one of those crazy Muslims said "Boo", I bet you would go running to ypur mommy.

#2 | Posted by fwthom at 2008-09-03 06:43 PM

Hmmm I have an idea... why don't you get yourself a T-shirt with a big ole picture of Mohammad on it and go to Europe, or better yet, the Middle East and wear it proudly.

Write us and let us know how that goes.

I'm sure Muslims will write a strongly worded letter to the publisher... then murder the author and stab it to her chest... just like Van Gogh...

Religion of Peace and Kitties, dontcha know...

"Buying a book is a great way to stand up to those radical Muslims, Scotch, but if one of those crazy Muslims said "Boo", I bet you would go running to ypur mommy."

I bet that if the book sells in great numbers it will express to the Muslim extremists that the west is not only made of frightened sheep like FWTHOM better than all the key board machismo in the world.

"Don't be scared boys, George W. and John McCain will kill those Muslims for you and then you can wear any t-shirt you want to."

Just don't wear an anti-Bush tee shirt in ST. Paul this week though.

I bet you would go running to ypur mommy.

#2 | Posted by fwthom

I was in israel, driving my car, i was wearing a wife-beater shirt. i didn't know it was a muslim holy day, and this fucking bearded cab driver tried to run me off the road, shaking his fist and hollering.

I just flicked him a bird, i could see what he was thinking, 'hmmm, american bird, what's this?' and he just went on.

let me know how it is

if its good i'll read it

the author says she went far into trying to not be offensive in the writing of this book and taking a honest and healthy look at this 1400 year old story

lip
i don't get it? whats wrong with wearing a wife beater??

Fuck if I know. It has something to do with showing disrespect if your shoulders are uncovered.

They won't even let you into any of the holy sites with uncovered shoulders. on any day.

i told a jewish friend about it and he said it had something to do with a muslim holy day. so we smoked some of the best lebanon shit you have ever seen and it was all better.

Child porn?

From the linked article, be forewarned that this book is a "love story" not a tabloid expose`. It will show how Aiesha loved her husband, who was 40+ years older than she.

After the death of Khadijah his first wife, Muhammad married another widow about his age.

When by religious manipulation Muhammad learnt to get his way under the guise of Allah's approval, Muhammad threatened to divorce Sauda, which led her to be retired without any rights to Muhammad except basic food and shelter in an obscure corner.

Her turn (Muhammad visits his wives in turns, oh how fair) was given to Aisha, who got double visitation rights.

He said that in a vision Allah wanted him to marry Aisha --- well what can his assistant Abu Bakre (father of Aisha) do if Allah said so. According to Muhammad, Allah approved the marriage of this little girl who was still playing with her dolls to senior citizen Muhammad. (I guess, he had a lot of viagra in him, having gotten used to all the best food in latter years --- 20 percent of the loot belongs to him after looting infidels).

The jealousies, complaints, and bickerings among his wives got so heated that Muhammad needed Allah to rescue him from this domestic problem. Solution: he threatened that if they don't behave, Allah will let him divorve them all and award him with better wives. And that's in the Koran, produced by inspiration coming to M.

You will notice that Allah has become the servant of Muhammad. Today if you express doubt on Allah, the Muslims might try to convince you otherwise or get upset; but if you say something against Muhammad, Muslims might kill you and think they are serving Allah.

Takitez, nail yourself to a cross already. Don't worry, someone will take you down in a few days...

I'm waiting for a promotion in a few days....

takitez

to give you a very short history of post mohammed deeath

aisha is responsible for the creation of the hadith and helped compile the different chapters of the koran into a single book.

so by your little tail it would make sense that Mohammed had a vision to marry Aisha.

Because Aisha continued where Mohammed left off.

but besides that.
can you show me where you're getting this story from. because its not in any of the accepted hadith or the koran.

you are reading nanc's websites again

you know whats funny

being one of the very very very very few muslims on this board.

i can take a lot of punishment and lies toward my faith and my family's faith.

the real reason you all don't know how muslims are really like and believe the caricature is because the amount of venom you spew keeps normal muslims away. me being a lover of the flame war still comes here.

keep being uninformed and spiteful
we will hump your future generations soon enough with these kinds of attitudes because you'll never see a real muslim coming. all of a sudden you'll be calling one son in law, or daughter in law. or grandson in law/grandaughter, etc.

i will laugh.

"i will laugh."

As well you should.
Although one might be tempted to weep, as well.
The sheer tonage of arrant nonsense and ignorance expressed here about Islam would sink a fleet of Titanics.

Kliff....

Some clues here .... fill in the specifics to show that your knowledge is genuine....

The name of the wife Muhammad took from his adopted son. (former daughter in law becoming his wife)

The name of the wife after Muhammad murdered her husband --- just the name, we know he took the wife of a prominent Jew after looting his community (he needed the wealth for himself and his jihadists).

Is the 20% thing real?

What happened to Sauda?

Just to mention a few....

Takitez, klifferd, live in reality and cast off the fairy tales. Neither one of you are right anymore than I would be if I said pinnochio created the world.

And the funny thing is, your beliefs are just alike, to someone outside the faith. Agreessive, arrogant. self-righteous, and self-obsorbed.

Where the fuck do humans fit in? Both religions are evil and destructive. Just look where it has gotten us so far.

all of a sudden you'll be calling one son in law, or daughter in law. or grandson in law/grandaughter, etc.

Only if the girl in question is blond. I like the yellow-haired.

i will laugh.

My cousin from Texas can't stop laughing. He married a blond too. LOL

Agreessive, arrogant. self-righteous...

Hold it..! I have never seen Klifferd be arrogant or aggressive. Why do you say that? Just because he is better at logic? LOL

No.... I'm the one who is arrogant and plenty aggressive.... Not Klifferd.

No.... I'm the one who is arrogant and plenty aggressive.... Not Klifferd.

#22 | Posted by Tosser

I agree with you sir, and I didn't say Killerd (who I like very much and you as well) was those things, I said the religion was. And I stand by it. I also stand by saying that the religions are both evil and destructive.

Kifferd was very happy one day when i told him I had a burning hot passionate hatred of christianity, but he never asked me if I felt the same way about islam. I do.

Takitez is just another obnoxius brainwashed american. Don't be obnoxious in your religion, you guys are too smart for that. I'll bet takitez is obese too. anyone, bet?

Maybe some day, all you guys will kill each other and rape each others women and then the rest of the world can live in the peace you say you want but have never been able to achieve because you sold out to the base fanatical elements.

THINK AND BE FREE!!!!!!!!

lip

i am happy when we burn hot hatred of all religious zealouts

not just christians

trust me

zealots of any religion are f'n dumb and yes that includes those fucking idiots killing in the name of Allah

by the way flag waving zealots are just as bad as religious zealots

anybody who thinks there is a right to kill for anything other then self defense is doomed

by the way flag waving zealots are just as bad as religious zealots

#25 | Posted by klifferd

They may be worse. I'll have to think about it.

We can agree on one thing though, We must, we must, we must increase our busts. Sorry, if you didn't go to school in america that probably didn't mean anything.

We can agree that these fucks in the WH have got to go and anyone that is similar to them shall not be elected.

I declare the right wing dead for a generation.

So mote it be!!!!!!

Just don't wear an anti-Bush tee shirt in ST. Paul this week though.

#7 | Posted by danni

I'm sure everyone wearing one there is in jail for the rest of the month.

Such books are nothing but racism that plays on the worst fears of the most uneducated people. The previous publisher was right for dropping it (even if it was for the wrong reason). Such a book should be labeled as "hate speech" and has no place in America.

Such a book should be labeled as "hate speech" and has no place in America.

#28 | Posted by KnowsTooMuch

Knowstoomuch is a constitutional scholar. he was out the day they taught freedom of speech.

Glad to see many exposing their ignorance but with plenty opinions.

As for my points, they are all based on historical facts --- I understand that someone might interpret them differently though.

OK, here is the scripture verse about better wives --- Sura 66:5: "Maybe, his [Muhammad] Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, fasters, widows and virgins."

Who cares about the prophet Muhammad. The Islams are retards about this guy. Muhammad sucked dockey balls.

OK, here is the scripture verse about better wives --- Sura 66:5: "Maybe, his [Muhammad] Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, fasters, widows and virgins."

Nice, here is my verse about better Muslins...

Sucka 66:5: "Maybe, his [Muhammad] Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place people better than you (like non-radical, non-facist, non-retarded, non-suicide bombing, non-camel jockies and virgins (I'll leave that part about virgins)."

Ahh Americans...

Don't you know you can't take a sound-bite and claim it sez this or that? You have to read it in the context of the whole Sura. This is not just for the Koran but for ALL historical documents. It is the very basis of research.

Most of all, you have to read the background... about why this thing was said (not given here). There is a story behind every Sura and without it, one is like the donkey who only carries books but never reads them.

Let me help you out:

[Pickthal 66:1] O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives? And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
[Pickthal 66:2] Allah hath made lawful for you (Muslims) absolution from your oaths (of such a kind), and Allah is your Protector. He is the Knower, the Wise.
[Pickthal 66:3] When the Prophet confided a fact unto one of his wives and when she afterward divulged it and Allah apprised him thereof, he made known (to her) part thereof and passed over part. And when he told it her she said: Who hath told thee? He said: The Knower, the Aware hath told me.
[Pickthal 66:4] If ye twain turn unto Allah repentant, (ye have cause to do so) for your hearts desired (the ban); and if ye aid one another against him (Muhammad) then lo! Allah, even He, is his Protecting Friend, and Gabriel and the righteous among the believers; and furthermore the angels are his helpers.
[Pickthal 66:5] It may happen that his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your stead wives better than you, submissive (to Allah), believing, pious, penitent, devout, inclined to fasting, widows and maids.
[Pickthal 66:6] O ye who believe! Ward off from yourselves and your families a Fire whereof the fuel is men and stones, over which are set angels strong, severe, who resist not Allah in that which He commandeth them, but do that which they are commanded.
[Pickthal 66:7] (Then it will be said): O ye who disbelieve! Make no excuses for yourselves this day. Ye are only being paid for what ye used to do.
[Pickthal 66:8] O ye who believe! Turn unto Allah in sincere repentance! It may be that your Lord will remit from you your evil deeds and bring you into Gardens underneath which rivers flow, on the day when Allah will not abase the Prophet and those who believe with him. Their light will run before them and on their right hands; they will say: Our Lord! Perfect our light for us, and forgive us! Lo! Thou art Able to do all things.
[Pickthal 66:9] O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end.
[Pickthal 66:10] Allah citeth an example for those who disbelieve: the wife of Noah and the wife of Lot, who were under two of Our righteous slaves yet betrayed them so that they (the husbands) availed them naught against Allah and it was said (unto them): Enter the Fire along with those who enter.
[Pickthal 66:11] And Allah citeth an example for those who believe: the wife of Pharaoh when she said: My Lord! Build for me a home with thee in the Garden, and deliver me from Pharaoh and his work, and deliver me from evil-doing folk;
[Pickthal 66:12] And Mary, daughter of 'Imran, whose body was chaste, therefor We breathed therein something of Our Spirit. And she put faith in the words of her Lord and His scriptures, and was of the obedient.

It seems Americans have far more time for studying the Koran than I do. They put far more effort into trying to think what it means, than I have ever thought worth doing. And they get it all wrong anyway.

Fine Muslims they will make. LOL. Bible-thumpers turned into Koran-thumpers, nothing new.