Great find, Kerrin! Its a Mommy War for sure.

The decent mommies out there aren't happy, so wait and see how this translates in the election.

It will be fun watching Democrats get a taste of their own politically correct femenist medicine. What do Liberals have against working mothers anyway?

LOL!

Joe Biden was a single dad in the Senate way back when, no one made a big deal about his work life balance, right?

LOL!

"Great find, Kerrin!"

Aww..now ya made me blush...

I think many parents try to guide their kids in all aspects of life ...from their bodies,behavior toward others, work ethic, ...down to their allowances.
Then they can only sit back holding their breath hoping some of it sunk in deep . With teens and hormones it is a crap shoot. Kids make bad decisions all the time...if they make it alive and have a chance to grow up...most do.
Having been a totally wild child...my parents were sorely disappointed in me. As I matured their early teachings settled in to my life...I turned out okay.

As a woman , a conservative and a feminist... I would think the more independent thinking women are offended by these attacks.
Now if you tell me Palin attended a "God Damn America" racist church for...say 20 years or hung around with communists and terrorists I would have to condemn her.
As it is I am still sorting thru the plethora of fact and innuendo....no decision as yet.

Should a 44-year-old mother of five, including a newborn with special needs and a pregnant teenager, take on a job that will keep her away from her home for much of the next two months to eight years--

YEAH!

It again just reinforces the obvious fact that the evangelicals in this country are insincere in the message they preach and in their application of the convictions-- and principles-- they espouse!

One minute their chastising women for being overly ambitious and neglecting to their family because of a career, the next its no big deal that a women with five children will traipsing around in a pantsuit (referred to them as pretending to be a man--) !

Anyway, this woman is a Book Banner, A thought Nazi, and a lactating pre-menopausal authoritarian which is enough to scare the shit out of the other 81% of America who are still sort of sane.

There is nothing wrong with a woman with working outside the home as long as the family does not suffer because of it.

In that case then either she or her husband needs to step back and prioritize what is important.

Family or Work.

It does not make much sense for both parents to be outside the home if the family is going to suffer because of it.

Then one of the parents needs to make a choice what is more important, their career or their family.

I think the democrats really stepped in shit with how they decided to go after Palin. If she gives a good speech tonight and holds her own in the debate in a month the GOP could be in really good shape heading into November.

Question:

Should a 44-year-old mother of five, including a newborn with special needs and a pregnant teenager, take on a job that will keep her away from her home for much of the next two months to eight years?

Answer:

Mind your own fucking business!!!!!!!!!!!!

When Mom and Dad both work full-time (no matter how many folks get involved with the children), it becomes a somewhat chaotic situation

I highly doubt the father is going to keep fishing while she would be VP.

Certainly, if a child becomes ill and is rushed to the hospital, and youre on the hotline with both Israel and Iran as nuclear tempers are flaring, wheres your attention going to be?

How does this not apply to Obama? Moreso even since he would be President... slightly more important I'm told then Vice Presient.

Dr. Laura is a jizzbucket... she doesn't think anyone of different faiths should get married either... I'd bet she has some interesting opinions of the union between Obama's parents too.

this has nothing to do with palin being a mother, but rather being in a situation where she's raising two children (hers with downs and her grandchild) in a state of family stress.

the same questions were asked of john edwards during his wife's cancer. and i maintain that there's nothing wrong with expecting both men and women in this situation to put family first.

I think the democrats really stepped in shit with how they decided to go after Palin. If she gives a good speech tonight and holds her own in the debate in a month the GOP could be in really good shape heading into November.

#8 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Bristol and her boyfriend are going to be there. Not sure if they'll come out on stage. This is going to be a defining moment.

Its a Mommy War for sure.

The real question is: should any unqualified, unvetted person be placed one 72 year old cancer ridden heartbeat away from the Presidency, simply because he/she satisfies the religious extremists that run the GOP? Obviously, to the Righties, being part-time Mayor of Mooseville is a bigger job than mayor of NYC, half a term as Governor of Alaska makes you more qualified than Governing Massachuessets or Pennsylvania and being a few hundred miles from russia makes you better qualified to deal with islamicists than 9-11 or running Homeland Security.

who gives a fuck

the question you should be asking is why you would support someone who is unable to enforce her beliefs within her own home

Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God.--

Sarah Palin

Bristol and her boyfriend are going to be there.

Wonder if Levi will talk fucking shit and offer to kick somebody's ass?

the same questions were asked of john edwards during his wife's cancer. and i maintain that there's nothing wrong with expecting both men and women in this situation to put family first.

#11 | Posted by floatating

What kind of care do you think the children of the Vice President of the United States of America would get? For fuck's sake, the best doctors and daycares will be lining up to do anything to have her kid under their care... do you realize the marketing of that?

The best thing for this kid would be if his mother was VP.

Is Palin breast feeding her 3 month old baby?
How is she going to work that one out on the campaign trail and later working 10 plus hour days in DC?

Is soon-to-be Grandmother Sarah Palin going to be around for her 17 year old daughter to help her cope and go thru with her own pregnancy? I would think her daughter needs her advice and companionship more than ever right now.

Palin is wrong to have five children (all under 19 years of age) -- with one of them now going to have a baby of her own -- and selfishly put herself clear across the U.S. in Washington, DC. Apparently Palin has made her choice and she didn't put the welfare of her children (and soon a grandchild) over her apparent lust the political limelight. The Republicans can try and spin it any way they want but them's the facts, folks.

The real question is should a candidate for president knowingly nominate a woman with a 17 year old unmarried daughter who is pregnant. It won't be the Democrats that attack her, it will mostly be conservatives who see someone who "doesn't walk the walk." People will come to their own conclusions about Sarah Palin and her daughter's pregnancy will effect them, I just don't see how it can be viewed as a political advantage. When McCain loses this election he can blame it on this choice or he can figure America rejected him because of his positions on issues. I believe that for most the latter will be true. The fact that they also don't admire Sarah Palin will just be coincidental.

Palin was wrong to name her kids track and trig

Float--

Not only were people questioning John--they were going after Elizabeth for staying on the campaign after the diagnosis was published.

They (the media) were criticizing her --she should stay home with the kids "because she could die at any moment".

Princess Diana was criticized if she took a trip without baby William. People are so backwards--they don't even know it.

As to others--

Nancy Pelosi has 5 kids and all those grandkids.

Soledad O'Brien has 4 kids under the age of 10.

Katie Couric's husband died and she kept on working with two children. She even got a bigger job.

Women work and because they have kids--that is somehow a negative?

People have their own opinions--Sarah has been doing this for 19 years.

Apparently--Todd's title in AK is "First Dude".

"This is going to be a defining moment."

It's going to resemble the Jerry Springer show. I just hope none of the Palins or the boyfriend start throwing chairs.

Can mommies with small children be vice president of the most powerful country in the world? Sure. If they have help taking care of the kids. Can they be president? Sure. If they have help taking care of the kids. Will they be the same kind of hands-on mothers that they would have been if they weren't president? No. If one of the kids is up sick in the middle of the night and that dreaded 3 am call comes, mommy will have to take off her mommy hat and put on her CiC hat. Daddy will have to tend to the sick child.

Is a mother with 4 children under 18, one who is a special needs infant and the other who is pregnant, the best candidate to be president, or in this case, a heartbeat away from the presidency, the best person for the job? That's for the American voters to decide.

I repeat: Women can have it all but not all at the same time. There are days when mommy, the VP, will have to chose between being a mother and doing her job. To pretend otherwise is foolish.

This is Dan Quayle all over again!

from the article --

Should a 44-year-old mother of five, including a newborn with special needs and a pregnant teenager, take on a job that will keep her away from her home for much of the next two months to eight years?

NO

Sincerely,
95% of the Women in America

"What kind of care do you think the children of the Vice President of the United States of America would get? "

Yeah, this is a total non-issue and a waste of time. There are dozens of real issues with the book-banning burgermeister of Bumpkinsville, Alaska. This isn't one of them.

The question is, will Todd Palin help out. When Mrs Palin ran for governor, the statement at the time was that Mr Palin would be spending more time at home. Instead, Mr Palin joined on with the oil companies, and has gone to numerous oil conferences (banking on his access to the governor). The later statement after that... not kidding... it was "the older ones are looking after the younger ones". Turns out the older ones were making younger ones, too.

It's going to resemble the Jerry Springer show. I just hope none of the Palins or the boyfriend start throwing chairs.

Posted by danni

Hell finally froze over!!! Danni said something funny.

"This is Dan Quayle all over again!"

Good Gawd, I hope not...that potatoe-head ended up Vice-President.

With a new born, Palon should be used to get up at 3 a.m. The only thing is, how can she make an appropriate national security decision while her baby is crying in the background?

No offense to women but what we should be asking is, do we want a woman to lead the country that has so many other responsibilities and priorities. And, if her family, at least right now, is not her priority, then do we want a women in such a high office that is willing to put her career, or some people will say country, first.

I simply don't think she has the qualifications. Maybe if McCain would not have railed so against Obama's experience, then Palin would be up there. However, McCain brought to our attention that we need a specific type, and I don't think Palin or Obama would be good choices, at least accordig to McCain.

So if you can bring yourself to answering the question of Palin's priorities, answering the phone at 3 a.m. while the baby is crying, or putting the baby in his own room, ignoring the crying and answer the phone anyway? Her husband has his own career so you can forget about him being a stay home dad.

To summarize, McCain really screwed this first big decision up.

In most cases, I don't see why either a mother or father should have to give up their job to take care of pregnant/special needs kids.

However, both a mother and father should give VERY serious consideration as to whether or not they should take on a much larger job, under the circumstances.

This is Dan Quayle all over again!

James Danforth Quayle had a degree in PoliSci, and earned a Law Degree (while serving in the National Guard). He worked for four years in state government, four years as a US Representative, and eight as a US Senator. His JTPA bill was as substantive as anything John McCain has ever passed.

Sarah Palin has a sportscasting journalism degree from Idaho. She was mayor of a four-digit town, and has been governor of a state with a population smaller than 75 US counties for under two years.

Sarah Palin is no Dan Quayle.

PALIN V OBAMA

NO MATTER HOW CAPABLE HE WAS TWO YEARS AGO OBAMA WAS NOT READY TO BE ON A PRESIDENTIAL TICKET BECAUSE HE WASN'T KNOWN AND TRUSTED WELL ENOUGH BY AMERICA.

HE CHOSE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT THOUGH.

AND NOW AFTER TWO YEARS OF MICROSCOPIC SCRUTINY AND WINNING HIS PARTY'S NOMINATION HE'S PROVEN THAT HE IS READY.

WE ONLY HAVE TWO MONTHS TO EVALUATE PALIN AND THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THE GAUNTLET OF PRIMARIES TO TEST HER WITH.

JOHN MCCAIN HAD NO BUSINESS PUTTING US IN THIS IMPOSSIBLE SITUATION.

FORGET PALIN, MCCAIN HAS DISQUALIFIED HIMSELF WITH THIS IDIOTIC AND MANIPULATIVE NOMINATION!

james why are you screaming?

NO

Sincerely,
95% of the Women in America

#25 | Posted by CalifChris

That's not what I'm hearing. They are pissed at the way Sarah is being treated.

Sarah Palin is no Dan Quayle.

now THAT is a campaign slogan!

I repeat: Women can have it all but not all at the same time. There are days when mommy, the VP, will have to chose between being a mother and doing her job. To pretend otherwise is foolish.

And I might add: there will be many days when mommy, the President, will be forced to do so. Is that good or bad? Palin has decided that for her, personally, it will fiine. Now we have to wait and see if the American people agree.

NO

Sincerely,
95% of the Women in America

#25 | Posted by CalifC

Something tells me every doctor, lawyer, judge, soldier, etc that also happens to be a woman and a mother disagrees with this line.

Like I said to AmericanUnity on another thread, my 10 month old daughter and I haven't seen my wife (her mom) since Monday night... should she have quit her job because she had a kid?

Didn't women go through a lot of protesting and fighting to be treated the same way as a man? I don't hear anyone saying Obama shouldn't run because he has two daughters that need raising.

I can see it at the VP Debate

Biden: Govenor, I served with Dan Quayle: I knew Dan Quayle; Dan Quayle was a friend of mine. Govenor, you're no Dan Quayle.

FF for Truthhurts.

Don't Barack and Michelle both work full-time? Didn't Joe Biden famously commute via three hours on a train to Washington and back, even though his two young children were toddlers? I wonder when Hillary possibly found the time to work at the Rose Law Firm--you know, seeing how her husband Bill was very, very busy as governor, and she had young Chelsea at home.

I guess it's only okay for mothers to work outside the home if they're Democrats. Otherwise, the liberals want you to stay home. They always know what's best.

I love the way this debate is going. Please, PLEASE keep it up through election day.

Does this mean that we won't see Michelle doing any First Lady Duties? After all, she should focus twice as hard on her 2 Daughters. We all know how those people like to bump.

Yeah, this is a total non-issue and a waste of time. There are dozens of real issues with the book-banning burgermeister of Bumpkinsville, Alaska. This isn't one of them.

#26 | Posted by nullifidian at 2008-09-03 04:09

So true. It's taking the time and spotlight away from Biden who should be pounding away at McCain right now instead of everyone fawning over Bunny Boots Palin. I sure hope on October 5 -- the date of the only VP debate -- that Biden doesn't feel he has to be "too gentlemanly" and is afraid to really come out swinging hard at her on the issues. The last thing we need now is to have Joe Biden muzzled. He's a great attack dog and he needs to be unleashed. woof! sic 'em. Go get her, boy

"Like I said to AmericanUnity on another thread, my 10 month old daughter and I haven't seen my wife (her mom) since Monday night... should she have quit her job because she had a kid?"

No, she has you which is great but apparently the Palin kids aren't so lucky.

Stop the ride, I want to get off.

The ONLY reason Sarah Palin was annointed was to pander to the religious right that has taken ownership of the GOP. No Righty has even attempted to offer a serious explanation why she was chosen over Romney, Ridge or even Guiliani.

It's hilarious to see the supposed "economic conservatives", "security Republicans" and "Paulie libertarians" here rally around their surrender to the religious right.

Obama sends his attack squad out to attack Palin's Down Syndrome daughter, her pregnant daughter, accuses Palin of burning books and living in a trailer, and now attacks her for being a MOTHER!

OBAMA IS A CHARACTER ASSASSIN AND A SCUMBAG AND IS AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT ISSUES>

CHRIS remember this week is the RNC convention. The attention was going to be focused on them regardless, however the type of attention they are getting is not what they wanted. There will be plenty of time to debate issues but right now the focus is on McCain's poor judgement. If you think the things said here are harsh can you imagine what is being said by other Republicans behind closed doors at the convention?

In most cases, I don't see why either a mother or father should have to give up their job to take care of pregnant/special needs kids.

However, both a mother and father should give VERY serious consideration as to whether or not they should take on a much larger job, under the circumstances.

My friend recently gave up her job to stay at home with her Down's Syndrome baby. She also has a 7 year old at home and another older child in college. It really depends on the family I think. How much thought did the Palins give to the fact that she could have the second highest job in the land, with the possiblity of having the highest job as a very real potential? As Bush has said, "Being president is hard work."

Let the American people decide.

No, she has you which is great but apparently the Palin kids aren't so lucky.

#44 | Posted by danni

I love that just a couple weeks ago, no one knew who Sarah Palin was but no we know so much about her that we know her husband is a shitty father...

As Vice President both her kids and her grandchild will get phenominal care...

What's the DNC's next talking point going to be? We can't elect a woman, she'll bleed all over the Oval Office!!

I think a young mother could be president or vice president, assuming there was a spouse or other relative around to be the primary caretaker. Gender shouldn't be an issue. The Obamas have leaned on relatives during the long campaign to raise their young kids. Biden did too after his wife was tragically killed.

No Righty has even attempted to offer a serious explanation why she was chosen over Romney, Ridge or even Guiliani.

Because she's a woman. McCain selecting another rich white guy adds no spark to a campaign that desperately needed one.

"As Vice President both her kids and her grandchild will get phenominal care..."

Vote for Palin so her kids can get good child care!!! Yay!!!

Something tells me every doctor, lawyer, judge, soldier, etc that also happens to be a woman and a mother disagrees with this line.

Hellooooo????

If anyone thinks raising and caring for one (or even two) infants and children is the equivalent in time and care needed to raising FOUR children under 17 years of age (I didn't count the 18 year old soon to go to Iraq), and one of the four being a NEWBORN special needs infant with Down Syndrome -- PLUS another soon to be newborn of her 17 year old daughter -- is the same thing, then you're loco.

If you think the things said here are harsh can you imagine what is being said by other Republicans behind closed doors at the convention?

#48 | Posted by danni

I'll bet there hasn't been a good racial joke told yet this week.

"Because she's a woman."

So do you honestly think she is the best qualified woman in the GOP for this office?

fwthom your an idiot

obama did nothing of the sort so stfu

you sound like a moron blabbering away
just as bad as the uberlibs you hate

and wisgod

about britol and her bf is going to be there

:) i hope they make him cut his mullet.
cause mullets are change i don't believe in.

"Because she's a woman. McCain selecting another rich white guy adds no spark to a campaign that desperately needed one."

So you admit this was McPandering to women???

What ever happened to "Country First"?
Sounds more like (Republican) Politics as Usual.

I have no problem with her being a mommy and being VP etc. the kids will get the care they need. Far better care than regular joes and janes can get for their kids, especially given republican policies (anyone see the irony there).

What gets me is what her life choices say about who she would be as PMILFOTUS or VPMILFOTUS.

"I'll bet there hasn't been a good racial joke told yet this week."

FF for WISGOD.

So you admit this was McPandering to women???

In the same way that you should admit that Biden was pandering when he picked Biden to ease fears and add Washington exerpience to his campaign...

Obama: Vote for change... pay no attention to the rich old white senator behind him who has been part of the problem that I want for decades.

If anyone thinks raising and caring for one (or even two) infants and children is the equivalent in time and care needed to raising FOUR children under 17 years of age (I didn't count the 18 year old soon to go to Iraq), and one of the four being a NEWBORN special needs infant with Down Syndrome -- PLUS another soon to be newborn of her 17 year old daughter -- is the same thing, then you're loco.

#54 | Posted by CalifChris

CC there is no way if she is elected VPILFOTUS that she will be taking care of her kids, nor should she. SHe will have a great deal more responsibilities.

So do you honestly think she is the best qualified woman in the GOP for this office?

#56 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

No... but I think she seems to have the potential... I don't really know enough about her yet.

Do you really think Obama is the best qualified man in the DNC for the office he seeks?

CChris... Obama will rarely see his two girls over the next 4-8 years. Should he drop out?

maybe we should make a law that only single sterile men can run for office...

The Obamas have leaned on relatives during the long campaign to raise their young kids. Biden did too after his wife was tragically killed.

During their respective campaigns the Obamas and Biden had TWO children each -- not FIVE children (with one of them being a newborn special needs infant). Big difference. And is Palin breastfeeding her special needs newborn? That was not a concern with Biden nor the Obamas due to the older age of their own children during the campaign. And don't forget Palin's 17 year old who now needs her mother around more than ever because she's going to have a baby of her own.

Sorry, you all can pc this till doomsday but you are not going to change the opinion (whether or not it
s voiced out loud) of what a majority of women really think about it.

Because she's a woman. McCain selecting another rich white guy adds no spark to a campaign that desperately needed one. #52 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

There were still other more logically qualified candidates by that measure. Olympia Snowe? Condi Rice? Susan Collins? Susan Schwab? Elizabeth Dole? Kay Hutchison? Linda Lingle? Jodi Rell? Christie Whitman? Deborah Price? Kay Granger? Olene Walker?

But, you are right, Palin is more of a spark than any of the above would be. Couldn't have gotten a more attention-grabbing pick if he had tried.

"Do you really think Obama is the best qualified man in the DNC for the office he seeks?"

No. However he was selected by the voters and vetted over a year and a half. She was chosen at the last minute, poorly vetted, and likely selected under some duress. There is a difference, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

CC there is no way if she is elected VPILFOTUS that she will be taking care of her kids, nor should she. SHe will have a great deal more responsibilities.

#62 | Posted by truthhurts

* * * * *

Uh huh. All those meetings every morning from 9:30 to 11:00, and waiting for heads of state to die.

Something tells me every doctor, lawyer, judge, soldier, etc that also happens to be a woman and a mother disagrees with this line.

I think most women who work outside the home will tell you, if they are honest, that they can't always be the best mommy and the best employee. Or at least, that they can't always do everything they want to in both capacities unless there are people at home and at work who occasionally have to pick up the slack for them. If Palin ever becomes president, it would probably be incumbent upon her to pick a strong, knowledgeable person to be her VP. Man or woman, I don't care, but I doubt she'd pick someone just like herself with little foreign or domestic policy experience. I really doubt she'd pick another woman who fell into that category, especially if that woman had 4 children under 18 at home, one of whom was a special needs infant.

Please don't tell me I'm being sexist. I am a feminist, yes, but I am also a realist.

"But you don't want to lie, not to the young." Cohen

And is Palin breastfeeding her special needs newborn?

Now its just getting silly... I'm out.

Gotta pick the kid up from daycare... I know, I know... my wife is a total bitch for not quitting her job as a surgeon to raise her.

CC
there is no way if she is elected VPILFOTUS that she will be taking care of her kids, nor should she. SHe will have a great deal more responsibilities.

#62 | Posted by truthhurts

Res ispa loquitur.

Fact is, during her early days as governor, and during her campaign, she did just that - took on, and defeated, the old boy network--

YEAH!

Is that Code for what the Wingdings used to refer to as Slept her Way to the Top--?

#26 | Posted by Redneckville at 2008-09-02 03:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

NOPE! That's your f'd up code for....women can't make it on their own talent. You're a fucking asshole.

Posted by ride_on at 2008-09-03 12:15 PM | Reply

I Posted the above in response to the attitude of some of you. Redneckville and many of you seem to certainly have a different standard for women (with 5 children) who pursue a career vs. a man (with 5 children). Very telling.......

Rob

Gotta pick the kid up from daycare... I know, I know... my wife is a total bitch for not quitting her job as a surgeon to raise her.

No comparison. Your situation is temporary and involves you caring for only one child -- not five -- with one a special needs infant. You can see all the time and care involved in just taking care of Ladybug. Could you do that adding on four more kids?

NO TO HILLARY....NO TO PALIN.

Signed,

The DR Left (and the majority of the Democratic Party)

CChris... Obama will rarely see his two girls over the next 4-8 years. Should he drop out?
maybe we should make a law that only single sterile men can run for office...

#64 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-09-03 04:34 PM | Reply

Who has been watching the kids while Barack and Michelle have been out campaigning for 1 1/2 years?

then you're loco.

As my 90 year old friend, who is a Christian and a Republican and like a second mother to me, said of Palin's decision to run as VP while she has a special needs infant at home: "She's nuts. She needs to be with that child. That child needs her." This from a woman who did work outside the home while she was also caring for several of her grandchildren when their mother got sick. My friend only worked part-time, and admitted she couldn't have done all that if it hadn't been for her husband and two teenage children who often cared for their nieces and nephew.

Sarah is the reformer with integrity and experience to take out corruption.

She vetoed 300 pork bills.

She has a surplus in AK.

As an executive, Sarah makes hundred of decisions as the mayor and Gov of AK, which is more than Mac, Obama and Biden put together.

____________

#51 | Posted by rcade at 2008-09-03 04:25 PM

Thank you Rcade--alas the voice of reason amidst the gutter of sexism.

It's none of anyone's business.

"Who has been watching the kids while Barack and Michelle have been out campaigning for 1 1/2 years?"

Grandma.

But that won't work out for the Palins.

Gal--exactly!

There are other members in the family that help along the way.

Could it be more perfect and less hectic--sure.

But this is their house. They had two teenagers and the husband helps out too. Appears they also had help from the grandparents.

NO TO HILLARY....NO TO PALIN.

Signed,

The DR Left (and the majority of the Democratic Party)

#74 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-09-03 04:42 PM | Reply

If this primary season has revealed anything, it is that the Democratic party is full of latent racism and sexism.

Remember when Gov. Rendell worried that a black man couldn't win a primary in Pennsylvania?

Now, all of a sudden, a woman's place is in the home.

With Democrats like this, who needs Republicans?

But this is their house. They had two teenagers and the husband helps out too. Appears they also had help from the grandparents.

I agree, it is their house, Murphy. But the WH is the people's house, which is why I keep saying, "Let the people decide."

Grandma.

But that won't work out for the Palins.

#78 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2008-09-03 04:44 PM | Reply

Oh, I thought they were staying with Grandpa Obama.

Yes--Gal--

The People will decide.

But the left and others are going bonkers--Sarah is a threat to them and they want her to withdraw from the ticket.

Which is laughable. But they are serious and they will do anything to smear her and her family.

They are demanding that there be a paternity test on Trig to prove it is not the daughter's baby.

How outrageous is that?!!!!

Back to work--;o)

Actually, I think this whole debate about working mothers is a good one for the country to have. I am a feminist, but I also think that they lie when they claim a woman can be all things to all people, all the time. There are only 24 hours in a day, and people do the best they can. I'm sure Sarah Palin will do her best if she becomes VP and even president. Will her best be good enough? Only time will tell.

"They are demanding that there be a paternity test on Trig to prove it is not the daughter's baby.

How outrageous is that?!!!!

Posted by MURPHY"

Who - the Obama campaign? Obama surrogates?

Or some characters in the blog world, just like our very own DR denizens?

(PS: Yes, it IS outrageous, but put the blame where it is due)

"But the left and others are going bonkers--Sarah is a threat to them and they want her to withdraw from the ticket."

murph
we're not scurred :)

we're laughing our asses off

YEAH!

My wife is an accountant and was passed over because she had recently become pregnant!

Now why should Palin be any different than any other American woman?

Women have been held hostage over their reproduction schedule ever since they were permitted into the workplace!

For you Fake Plastic Sons of a Bitchs to piss and moan now about this one "cunt" (john mcsames words) just makes you look even MORE disingenuous than Usual!

"But the left and others are going bonkers--Sarah is a threat to them and they want her to withdraw from the ticket."

No Murphy I and Gal both posted earlier that we fear she might be replaced with a real candidate.
I say keep Sarah. She will be a continuous reminder that John McCain has no judgement and shoots from the hip.

-With Democrats like this, who needs Republicans?

People say NO! to Ride On all the time.

He thought it was his name until age 12.

My wife is an accountant and was passed over because she had recently become pregnant!

#89 | Posted by Redneckville at 2008-09-03 04:59 PM | Reply

Your wife needs to call John Edwards quickly, because she has a meritorious lawsuit.

Sure they can. But why not pick someone who is qualified to do so?

This is the best 'Mommy' the GOP could come up with?

Freaking hilarious!!!!! And now you guys are stuck with her.

Even funnier!!!!

What Klifferd said!

But the left and others are going bonkers--Sarah is a threat to them and they want her to withdraw from the ticket.

Which is laughable. But they are serious and they will do anything to smear her and her family.

They are demanding that there be a paternity test on Trig to prove it is not the daughter's baby.

How outrageous is that?!!!!

I don't want Palin thrown off the ticket. Nor do I want a paternity test done on Trig. And, yes, that is outrageous. I don't want the Palins smeared. I want her record to be on the record for voters. To be honest, if Obama had picked someone just like Palin but on the left, I'd be concerned. I would question both of their judgments. Does that mean I wouldn't vote for the ticket? Probably not in the end given the alternative, but I would be concerned. It surprises me that more Republicans aren't.

Actually, I think this whole debate about working mothers is a good one for the country to have. I am a feminist, but I also think that they lie when they claim a woman can be all things to all people, all the time. There are only 24 hours in a day, and people do the best they can. I'm sure Sarah Palin will do her best if she becomes VP and even president. Will her best be good enough? Only time will tell.

#86 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2008-09-03 04:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

So why do you all assume this responsibility falls to the woman. This woman is married, has a husband. How dare she pursue a career! (Some of you "feminists" are a joke). Let woman and men be individualists....many of you simply make it about sex, race, etc. which categorizes and is pre-judgemental (or in other words stupidity). Plus, Redneckville, you are nothing but a bag full of anger. Hmmm, your wife got passed over. Probably the least of her problems as she is married to angry you.

Gee Corky...great line and comment (whine on sucker).

Obama is a DADDY with two young girls, but nobody questions if being busy raising young kids disqualifies him from being president because he is black and most black guys take off when their kids are born, then MOMMY can get that big check from the MAN every month.

#90 | Posted by fwthom

You know, some people are on one side of issues and other people are on the opposite side of issues. On the other hand you, and maybe a few others although I can't think of anyone else who is as consistent as you, are always on the retarded side of the issue, whatever the issue is. I will say that if you are posting this crap just to have a virtual idiotic identity, to try to write like someone with an IQ of 37, you are doing an excellent job..

Palin will help McCain solidify the white-trash vote in the South.

I wonder if this will be the excuse they use if they end up having to dump her.

Dump her or not, I don't care. The damamge for the GOP has been done. McCain's poor judgement has now been highlighted.

Like I said to AmericanUnity on another thread, my 10 month old daughter and I haven't seen my wife (her mom) since Monday night... should she have quit her job because she had a kid?

Didn't women go through a lot of protesting and fighting to be treated the same way as a man?

Right on the money Rob.

So you admit this was McPandering to women???
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In the same way that you should admit that Biden was pandering when he picked Biden to ease fears and add Washington exerpience to his campaign...

Obama: Vote for change... pay no attention to the rich old white senator behind him who has been part of the problem that I want for decades.

Another home run for Rob. (Did I actually say that?)

Obama: Vote for change... pay no attention to the rich old white senator behind him who has been part of the problem that I want for decades.

Another home run for Rob. (Did I actually say that?)

#103 | Posted by IraqiBukkake

maybe, if it made any sense..

Biden was a solid VP pick.

Who is this woman again?

The differences are HUGE, but I and others do understand that they escape you.

CHEEZER,

Maybe you had another "senior moment", but why are you outraged by my post and not by Obama's attack on Palin's daughters and attack on Palin for being a Mother? Is that selective outrage, low IQ, or dementia?

My IQ is certified at 158 and I am a member of Mensa. AND I DESPISE LIBS!!!!!

Who really cares what the VP does? We have Cheney now and before that we had Gore. Can anyone tell me what either of those two have done, other than to set themselves up for their own future? And how many old presidents have died in office? I'd bet the under on that one anyday. At any rate, it's just awesome watching you libs get all twisted over this. So please, keep it going. Makes my boring compiles fly by...

So why do you all assume this responsibility falls to the woman. This woman is married, has a husband. How dare she pursue a career! (Some of you "feminists" are a joke). Let woman and men be individualists....many of you simply make it about sex, race, etc. which categorizes and is pre-judgemental (or in other words stupidity)

I was referring to Palin's ability to perform her tasks as VP if she gets the job: "I'm sure Sarah Palin will do her best if she becomes VP and even president. Will her best be good enough? Only time will tell."

Sure, her husband will be involved in helping her at home with raising the children, but he won't be helping her on the job as VP if she gets the position. Rob helps his wife by caring for their daughter; he doesn't go to the hospital to perform surgery for her.

Can anyone tell me what either of those two have done

I need to tell you what Cheney has done?

Really?

"I am a feminist..."

All women are feminists.

And how many old presidents have died in office? I'd bet the under on that one anyday.

I heard someone say that 1 in 3 presidents are replaced by their VPs. Anyone know the stat?

"My IQ is certified at 158 and I am a member of Mensa. AND I DESPISE LIBS!!!!!"

Oh yeah, we all believe that.

Actually, I think this whole debate about working mothers is a good one for the country to have. I am a feminist, but I also think that they lie when they claim a woman can be all things to all people, all the time. There are only 24 hours in a day, and people do the best they can. I'm sure Sarah Palin will do her best if she becomes VP and even president. Will her best be good enough? Only time will tell.

#86 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2008-09-03 04:56 PM
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I've been a single dad for nine years, and my day has the same number of hours in it that yours does. Personally, I roll my eyes when someone tells me, "I'm a full-time mother." Well, good for you. We live in the days of the diswasher, the vacuum cleaner, the SUV, the school bus, the garbage disposal, washers and dryers, and the 24-hour supermarket. It's not like things were a hundred years ago, when women had to wake up to milk the cows, sew, cook, bake, and pack their kids' lunches in a pail. Now the Dems want to roll back a century of progress for women, just because the Repubs' VP is a mother with young children?

I think that's a great strategy. I would be surprised if Joe Biden won't have something to say about it, that the Obama campaign would have to spend most of October trying to explain away.

All women are feminists.

Tell that to all the folks who believe a woman's place is in the home and that a woman should let her husband make all the decisions in the family.

" pay no attention to the rich old white senator"

ONe problem, he ain't rich. Nice try though Rob.

Sure, Mommies can be Vice President or President.

To choose to run for that office while your kid is in a crisis and subject her to the white hot glare of international media is not in my book.

" It surprises me that more Republicans aren't."

Many are but they won't admit it for the same reason we wouldn't want to if Obama had chosen someone like Palin. Thankfully he has better judgement.

"My IQ is certified at 158"

this isn't the sat's dude
you don't get to add 100 for writing your name.

"I am a feminist..."

All women are feminists.

#110 | Posted by happyending
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LOL. Actually, there's no such thing as a feminist. Even Gloria Steinem was careful to marry someone who made a lot of money. Where would Hillary Clinton be, if not for Bill? Nancy and Diane married into huge fortunes.

Whenever a woman tells another woman that she's seeing someone, or about to get married, one question will come up immediately: "what does he do for a living?" Not, is he nice? is he handsome? is he well-mannered? is he a religious person? Nope--what's important is how much money he makes.

What was left of feminism was destroyed by their obeissance to the Clintonites. I remember when feminists believed that ANY relationship between a superior and subordinate was sexual harassment. But Bill Clinton was a Dem, so they had to twist themselves into knots to excuse a relationship between the president of the United States, and an unpaid White House intern. It was hysterical, especially with Hillary looking on. Too funny for words.

Here we have the closest thing to a self-made woman that there is. She didn't marry into it. She wasn't born into it. But because she's a Republican, the so-called feminists will run away, and throw the lever for two liberal Ivy League guys. Like always.

So why do you all assume this responsibility falls to the woman. This woman is married, has a husband. How dare she pursue a career!

Save your righteous indignation crap! This issue is not about women in general and whether they have a right to pursue a career. It is about a woman whose family is in crisis and has a very real need for parental attention. She has a pregnant teen daughter and an infant with Downs Syndrome. She made the decision to accept the nomination for VP. She knew that by accepting that role her personal life was going to be made public. Her parental decision making, given her family situation(s), is justly being questioned.

I don't think most people are objecting to the fact that she is a woman. In fact, some of them, if not most of them, provided ardent support to Hillary Clinton. If John McCain had chosen a woman whose family was not in crisis, this would not even be an issue.

I look at her and think, she just doesn't get it or she just doesn't care that her family needs her and her husband, more than the country does. Somehow, this country could survive without Sarah Palin.

Sure, her husband will be involved in helping her at home with raising the children, but he won't be helping her on the job as VP if she gets the position. Rob helps his wife by caring for their daughter; he doesn't go to the hospital to perform surgery for her.

#108 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2008-09-03 05:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Your comment is sexist as can be.

Simply turn it around. "Sure, his wife will be involved in helping him at home with raising the children, but she won't be helping him on the job as VP if he gets the position. Gal helps her husband by caring for their son; she doesn't go to the hospital to perform surgery for him.

You just don't get it....but, you obviously know that a woman's primary place is in the home and NOT with her career. "Feminists" turn against fellow woman and are their sisters own worst enemy. Your mindset is NOT for a woman right to have a strong career (even when there is a husband that could be at home). Pathetic and you don't even realize it.

ONe problem, he ain't rich. Nice try though Rob.

#115 | Posted by danni
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That's sure true. He makes over $150,000 a year, but has a negative financial net worth.

Obviously, then, this is someone who really understands markets, investments, the time value of money. Hell--no wonder he's been in the Senate his whole life. He'd be bankrupt if he ever left.

#120 | Posted by realpatriot at 2008-09-03 05:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh, I get it. That woman with a Downs kid and pregnant 17 year old......"STAY AT HOME....DROP THAT POLITICAL CAREER". How many men (and women) in very important jobs should also quit their careers? Dig boy, keep on digging.

I've been a single dad for nine years,

Kudos to you, RiR. I don't think men can be all things to all people all the time either, which is why I said: "There are only 24 hours in a day, and people do the best they can."

Now the Dems want to roll back a century of progress for women, just because the Repubs' VP is a mother with young children?

Not at all. I don't think that questioning whether Palin is ready to be VP equates to rolling back gender equality for women with young children.

According to fresh data from Rasmussen Reports, Sarah Palin's selection is a mixed bag. Voters have a favorable impression of her by a 53/26 margin; however, by a 29/44 margin, they do not believe that she is ready to be President. Needless to say, the PR battle over the next couple of weeks will involve the McCain campaign playing up her biography, and the Obama campaign playing down her readiness.

What's interesting, however, is that while there is a gender gap in these numbers, it's not the one many observers were anticipating. Rather, along a variety of metrics, men like the Palin choice better than women: