Senator Craig in a bathroom stall with a wide stance?
Pastor Hagee getting a blowjob from a male prostitute?
Sarah Palin having a pregnant 17 year old daughter?
Representative Foley seeking out male pages?
Representative Cunningham in prison?
Senator Stevens on his way to prison?
Representative Ney whining from prison?

The GOP truly is the Party of hypocrisy. So why are so many Americans still falling for their lies?

Why is it that the Democrats say they are for privacy and respecting women, and they can't shut the fuck up about Bristol Palin?

Bad time to mention hypocrisy there, mod.

I realize that most Germans of the time would have claimed to be outraged at the policies of the National Socialists. Yet they overwhelmingly supported them. To a far lesser degree, the same phenomena is present in America when we look at the type of American who still supports the GOP even after eight years of criminal incompetence and war.

When it comes to picking one party over another, People have always chosen the lesser of two evils.

Soheifox: The reason Bristol Palin is a legitimate big issue is that her mother has been tapped to be McCain's running mate. If elected, she will be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
She advocates Christian values and family values, and all that Republican double speak. Yet she doesn't even have time to teach those values to her own daughter. A girl who was maybe sixteen when she got pregnant. A girl who was out fucking while her mother was simultaneously spouting a bunch of hypocritical lies about morality.
Though it disturbs you (and it disturbs me as well), the parenting skills of Sarah Palin tell us a lot about her.

MODER8

I've invented an imaginary place where staunch GOPer's live: "Conservadonia".

There, all sense of reality is suspended for empty rhetoric. They can talk about how they'll decrease spending and then raise the federal budget 40%. They can talk about moral values while having their own affairs and act on fetishes without a glimmer of guilt. They can talk about 'compassionate conservatism' and then be uncompassionate to the least of our citizens.

It's a magical world full of rainbow filled mornings in America where the sound of "THEM! IT'S THEM!" coming from their heros scream from the speakers.

All is well in Conservadonia all the time.

Heaven will be achieved when pragmatism is completely replaced by empty rhetoric and those that dare call them on their blatant bullshit cease to exist.

AU: LOL. If my computer were compatible with FFs you would have just gotten one.

RWD: You are just another loud mouth big talking right winger who does not know how to respond to the truth, so he threatens the messenger. Guys like you reinforce my entire view of the GOP.

was out fucking while her mother was simultaneously spouting a bunch of hypocritical lies about morality....

#5 | Posted by moder8

What in that sentence was a lie, RWD?

Righties are always spouting about "Personal Responsibility", well where's Palin's? Has she come out yet and said "This is my fault, I'm a crappy mother"?

The rightwingers only like to speak truth when it does not have to reflect their actions.

She has come out and said she loves her daughter, unconditionally.

She has come out and said she loves her daughter, unconditionally.

#13 | Posted by 51773

Good.

Then she can leave the race, take care of her kids, and teach Bristol how to be a proper mother.

Why is everyone spouting so much about Palin, what about Cindy McCain the family wrecker. I'm sure she knew John boy was married to a disabled woman when she went out on that first date.
What happened to her family values they were young children involved in this breakup. Any woman that interfers with a marriage and causes children to suffer the loss of their father is a "SLUT".
Please you Evangelical hypocrites please please give me your excuse for Cindy.

Well, of course. What else is she gonna say at this point? Damn.
If instead parroting a bunch of nice sound bytes she had taken the time to teach her daughter any moral values and basic birth control, they wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.

She has come out and said she loves her daughter, unconditionally.

#13 | Posted by 51773 at 2008-09-01 09:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good enough for you TFDNihilist?

Thanks 51773, i was looking for that.

rwd

RWD,like a typical sheeple GOPher was looking for words. Overlooking the obvious failures represented by the behavior.

Leaving the race, or staying in the race does not reflect any degree of love she has for her kids. You cannot equate the two. You can assume there is a connection all day long, but there is no evidence that her love, is based on the race or not. She is taking care of her kids as far as anyone can tell, as well as any American family can. Her daughter made a mistake, and I could be wrong, but I would think she has talked to her about that. Besides, didn't you listen to Nobama? He said that subject was off limits.

"Righties are always spouting about "Personal Responsibility", well where's Palin's?"

In all fairness, choosing to have the baby and marry the father and live with her "mistake" and not simply sweep it under the rug for political convenience IS taking personal responsibility.

It would be nice, however, if those conservative fuckwads who act all pious and self rightous would drop the charade and admit they're just like everyone else so we can get beyond voting over "values" and "morals" and actually attack issues.

I agree

"In all fairness, choosing to have the baby and marry the father and live with her "mistake" and not simply sweep it under the rug for political convenience IS taking personal responsibility."

Sorry, kind of rolled both Palins into the same statement.

and I could be wrong, but I would think she has talked to her about that. Besides, didn't you listen to Nobama? He said that subject was off limits.

#20 | Posted by 51773 at 2008-09-01 10:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Makes no difference to moder, he is an equal opportunity hater.
If sucker punching someones daughter is what he thinks he needs to do,he does it.
What a man.

rwd

Bristol is having her second child. She would have been better off being raised by people with San Francisco Values.

If Sarah Palin had any integrity or class she would drop out of the race right now. Putting family first means just that. Something rightwingers hate to acknowledge.

If Sarah Palin had any integrity or class she would drop out of the race right now. Putting family first means just that. Something rightwingers hate to acknowledge.

With that line o logic, a lot of people would not go to work.

Actually, working parents all the time teach their children the basics about birth control and moral responsibility.

...the parenting skills of Sarah Palin tell us a lot about her -- Moder8

Your condemnation of Bristol and Sarah Palin tells us much more about you, Moder8.

???? you are proving my point.
Palin is a working Mom, but you say she must quit her job? Do you not think the subject of birth control and morals has never come up in her family?
Why would she want to get rid of her job? (her current job being this campaign)

Firstly, I don't condemn Bristol Palin. Many girls her age enjoy sex.
But I do condemn Sarah Palin for spouting christian and family values on the one hand, while on the other she is such poor mother that she had never taught Bristol about birth control. Further, the fact that the daughter of a woman is out having premarital sex at the age 16 implies that Sarah's family value shpliel is just a bunch of opportunistic bullshit.
I have an 18 year old daughter who just went off to college. A moral, upstanding, intelligent girl.
Oh yeah, and when she turned 15, I had my older sister sit down with her and explain about the different types of birth control.

I suspect it is people with rightwing mindset who just don't get it.

People with the rightwing mindset seem to be totally against sex, but then somehow they get pregnant. I have never understood that. Is it God doing it?

damn you're (..)
you are saying because she is pregnant, that is proof she was never taught by her mother about birth control?
Also, you are saying that her pregnancy is proof, the Palin family has no values?
Wow.
Pissst. the world is full of kids who have been taught right and wrong, and choose wrong. It is part of being kids. I wish your daughter well.
(was the rightwing jab, necessary?)

People with the rightwing mindset seem to be totally against sex, but then somehow they get pregnant. I have never understood that. Is it God doing it?

People in both parties fail. Everyone does. Everyone. Some rightwings hold to no sex before marriage. And, some fail. It is one of the things about people. We fail.
As far as God doing it? No comment.

51773: Of course the rightwing jab is necessary. That was the whole reason I started this ridiculous thread in the first place.

that made me laugh

Good enough for you TFDNihilist?

#17 | Posted by rightwingdon

No, I'm waiting for her to admit she is a bad mother. The proof is in the pudding. I tend to agree with CaliChris who says Bristol was looking for attention, well she got it.

you are saying because she is pregnant, that is proof she was never taught by her mother about birth control?

#33 | Posted by 51773

That, and the fact that her mom is an outspoken opponent of birth control.

Would you like her if she did admitt it? Would that cause you to change your mind?

Whats so hypocritical about the publican's here is how for months they have whinned about Senator Obama's inexperience and then John Idiot McCain goes out and picks Sara Whathername, who has no knowlege of foreign policy and doesnt even know what the VP does (her quote) does. And should your
smear tactics win you the white house this weather girl turned VP is a heartbeat away from deciding how to react to a Russian attack or an attack on Israel by Iran. I dont know about you pubs but I am shaking in my boots.

He then said he kept a "black book" on all the times he let the other boys suck his dick.

Semper Fi motherfucker.

rwd

you are more understanding than I anticipated

Would you like her if she did admitt it? Would that cause you to change your mind?

#39 | Posted by 51773

That would be a start. But it always seems to be the Pubs who want to legislate away their humanity.

#42 | Posted by rastaninja at 2008-09-02 12:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

Your post makes no sense.
You might want to talk to the dumperman though.
I'm sure he'll help you out.

rwd

#37 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2008-09-01 11:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Palins don't give a shit about what you think ,get a life.

rwd

#38 That, and the fact that her mom is an outspoken opponent of birth control.
Those two things, she is pregnant, and her mother is an outspoken opponent of birth control, is PROOF she has never been taught about birth control. Am I reading this correctly? Do you consider abstinence a birth control, and do you think they never have talked about it?

"Do you consider abstinence a birth control, and do you think they never have talked about it?"

Obviously not enough, and obviously not enough...in that order.

so you think she is pregnant because not enough words were spoken? is this dumbforth?

you kinda jumped right in between. how ya been?

"so you think she is pregnant because not enough words were spoken?"

Feel free to posit your own opinion.

gee thanks

Who gives a shit about birth control when you have real problems like home forclosures at there highest since the great depression, the credit card crunch, health care, jobs being shipped overseas, people losing good jobs to overseas and then having to work at walmart, get real you Publicans. Thats why you arent gona win most americans know the truth.

That is the whole core of the left and the liberals.

They are going to "bork" Sarah just like they do everyone they hate.

The list is long.

And I bet some of you would just love for Sarah to drop out--or admit that SHE did something wrong.

She like all parents teach their kids morals and cross their fingers hoping they did right.

Not only do none of you blowhards knows whats going on in their house--it's none of your business!

Then we have Mary who wants to imply that Bristol birthed Trig and is now pregnant again--too much koolaid from Daily.

51773,

Have you ever posted on the Drudge Retort under any other name(s)?

who gives a sh..t about owning a home, bad credit, band aids, jobs (insert anything you want here) when babies are being murdered each and every day.

uhh.. maybe

I'll take that as a "yes". What were those names?

g'night

Running away? Typical.

I'll be sure to ask next time you're on.

ax me what?

The infanticide smear was uncovered as just that a lie.............check factcheck.org.

Hey Elliot,

You seem to be an actual Christian rather than the typical Rtard hate-based-ministry type we usually get here on the Retort.

I have a serious question that I think deserves a serious answer: Given that the Palins (and McCain's inner circle) obviously knew about the child's pregnancy before the nod was given to Palin for the VP spot, what kind of people would put a 17 year old girl thru the unprecedented public embarrassment of a very public outing just to score a very questionable political gain in a moment of obvious desperation? Was ANY consideration given to what this would do to the girl? Is this the best that Christian Family Values has to offer?

Axe-
re: "Given that the Palins (and McCain's inner circle) obviously knew about the child's pregnancy before the nod was given to Palin for the VP spot"

I don't think that it's a "given" that the McCain camp knew about it before thay picked Palin. If you can illustrate otherwise, I'd be glad to hear it.

It was reported earlier this evening on CNN and MSNBC and even FauxNews that McCain's spokesman stated that they knew about the child's pregnancy and that they checked into statutory rape laws in Alaska and determined that this would not be a problem.

And to quote KeithO, "I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP!!!" Honest. I about shit when I first heard it and had to check out the other cable talking heads to see if I was hearing things.

Why is it that the Democrats say they are for privacy and respecting women, and they can't shut the fuck up about Bristol Palin? -- Sohe

Yep. A few of these guys probably had sex before they were married, too. But they're guys, so it was okay. Bristol Palin, otoh, is immoral.

Wait... I forgot... if they had sex before marriage, it was because they had lousy mothers.

The McCain people are saying they where aware of her daughters pregnancy beforehand just to save their face. Not even John McCain would have been that stupid to hold onto her. She has been his running mate for 4 days now and she already has become the biggest VP liability since Dan "Potato"
Qualyle.

Axe-
Which, of course, is why the McCain campaign leaped in front of the story with their own spin instead of reacting to it, as they are doing now.

LOL.

"John McCain was aware of Bristol Palin's pregnancy before he chose her mother for his running mate, a top adviser to the Republican presidential candidate said."

That really cracks me up.

What did you expect a "top advisor" to say?

"Duh....abub ah...it blindsided us, which is why we've sent a team of lawyers up to figure out what the fuck else is going to surprise us"

LOL.

The McCain camp chose Palin for obvious superficial and desperate reasons without knowing much about her, and it's biting them in the ass.

It could be worse, though. McCain could start a war in the same way - before you had a chance to vote against him.

As for Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlentey and the real people who had the experience and temperment to be VP I wonder what they think of John McCain. Word has it Romney had made the comment , he used us. I spoke to Pawlentey this afternoon and he's going to vote for Obama now as he feels the same way.

hey Joel Gimme a Scotch wants your dog.

The DNC is just as hypocritical.

Is was Pastor Ted Haggard, not Pastor Hagee.

Haggard's the perv, Hagee's the end-times conspiracy theorist. Big difference, even if I don't want to be around either one.

"what kind of people would put a 17 year old girl thru the unprecedented public embarrassment of a very public outing just to score a very questionable political gain in a moment of obvious desperation?"

Very good and reasonable question. As I have said before, Palin is just your average, garden variety selfish and power hungry politician. Nothing special about this woman.

Here's another thing to consider.

Christians (anyone can readily admit a huge portion of the modern GOP) believe:
(1). Man is born sinful. Children don't have to be *taught* to lie, their little heathen hearts do it naturally.
(2). Man must have a *major* heart change in order to act morally and in the interest of others.
(3). "Religious" people are always saying the right thing but acting in *very wrong ways.* Look at the life of Jesus compared to the religious leaders.
(4). As we've screwed up in the past, and others have shown mercy and compassion to us, we must show compassion on others.

Secular humanists (anyone can admit a huge portion of the Dems) believe:
(1). Man is basically good.
(2). No heart change is required. Bad people are *taught* to be bad.
(3). Religious people are stupid. Moral standards are usually lax and there is little "finger pointing.". The only time personal judgements are made are when someone who believes differently than them violates *their* standards (I.e. Homosexual behavior is acceptable UNLESS it's committed by someone who claims it's immoral).
(4). we don't need to have compassion or mercy on people who are hypocrites.

And what does it say about Americans that half (give or take) supported them in the last elections, when far more qualified alternatives were an option.

Posted by moder8

It says that no matter what the "left" does, the right will keep moving right, so you better resign yourself to a lifetime of politicians slowly and not so slowly moving right, or you can start standing up for your core principles and dig in for a generational battle.

I know quite a few Baptists.

And d-bags like moder8 and americanunity are FAR more arrogant, condescending, preachy and judgmental than ANY of them.
And you guys were/are ready to crucify anybody who said Bill Clinton's OWN actions might affect his ability to govern.

On a thread about hypocrites no less...

"As we've screwed up in the past, and others have shown mercy and compassion to us, we must show compassion on others."

And the best way to express such compassion is with guns.

What a great thread this is.

Why do people draw so many caricatures?

**** Why does the GOP lure so many hypocrites? ****

......birds of a feather...flock together......

You know --NO ONE brings this up with the left's heroine Nancy Pelosi.
Pelosi has 5 kids.
And not a peep from the media --or anyone here for that matter.

#81 | POSTED BY MURPHY AT 2008-09-02 06:14 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Four threads that I've seen where you've posted the SAME thing without any relevance.

You know --NO ONE brings this up with the left's heroine Nancy Pelosi.

Pelosi has 5 kids.

And not a peep from the media --or anyone here for that matter.

#81 | POSTED BY MURPHY

Okay, I'll make "a peep" --

There was no need to bring it up because there is no comparison. Unlike Sarah Palin who has held political office since all her children were (and still are) VERY young, Nancy Pelosi did not run for political office until 1987, after her youngest child became a high school senior.

Source - Wikipedia

Okay, I'll make "a peep" --

Nancy Pelosi did not run for political office until 1987, after her youngest child became a high school senior.

~CChris.

Nice post, Chris.

Spud was pretty sure that was the case and was just about to go wiki it before reading yer post.

CChris 1
Murphy 0

*whistle noise*

Game on.

Be Well.

Running an election against a Republican is like playing a game with a five year old. When the Republican/five year old start to lose they make up new rules. If that does not work expect them to start crying.

****** Religious people are stupid.
......#73 | Posted by kirk *******

........even a broken clock is right twice a day....

"As we've screwed up in the past, and others have shown mercy and compassion to us, we must show compassion on others."And the best way to express such compassion is with guns.#76 | Posted by Sully at 2008-09-02 10:05 AM | Reply

No, the best way to stop assholes using deadly force is with guns.

I knew I'd have my work cut out for me trying to educate some of you Democrats.

The GOP truly is the Party of hypocrisy. So why are so many Americans still falling for their lies?

#1 | Posted by moder8 at 2008-09-01 09:20 PM

You have a point.
By having a credo and standards it sets the bar.
Some scoundrels or just weak individuals use the party to advance themselves.They can't live the charade for long.

Dems don't have that problem.

To quote Forrest Gump - Stupid is as stupid does.

This is to me kind of a strange question.

We are, regardless of party affiliation, dealing with politicians(sorry).

In the dictionary under politician(sorry) one of the defining terms is hypocrite. While there are a considerable number of other defining titles, all seem to be similar. Not the least of which is commonly "criminal".

Dig into any party and you find the same breed of human. Nasty, self serving sons of bitches.