I think this writer has it right.

"Stalking horse" comes from hunting. To avoid scaring the prey, say a group of wild ducks, the hunter lets his horse wander towards the ducks since the ducks are not startled by seeing a horse. The hunter stays carefully behind the horse until he is close enough to shoot the ducks.

McCain and his coterie of neocon, war-mongering imperialists are the hunters. Sarah Palin is the stalking horse. And you and me, we're the ducks.

I'm waiting for the evil media to come up with pix of Sarah crawling across a polar bear skin rug in a pink teddy, breathing, "Drill, Drill."

Wonder how that'd play with the Base?

Ray,

You forgot the rest of us hunter neocons behind Hunter McCain and Palin the Stalking Horse ready to mop up any stray libs...er ducks.

Well, the war-mongering imperialists may as well be Biden and Obama, who've promised us a war with Pakistan and Russia.

Palin is a Washington outsider whose gone after corrupt Republicans, whom I'll admit is a big part of the problem. She is an expert on energy---a bona fide expert---and she'll make Joe Biden look like the blubbering, blustering old fool he is in a debate.

In fact, the best things you can say about voting for McCain is that he's not Obama, and he might not survive his term.

I wonder how much it must be driving the Obamaniacs nuts, that he's tied in the polls. It makes me happy.

"He's (McCain) tied in the polls...."

Rasmussen still has Obama three points ahead. Still happy?

You forgot the rest of us hunter neocons behind Hunter McCain and Palin the Stalking Horse ready to mop up any stray libs...er ducks.

#3 | Posted by fwthom

In other words, fwthom is another totalitarian fascist.

Go Palin! We need cut BIG GOVERNMENT waste!

She gives me the impression of being much more principled than Colin Powell. So I question how long she would quit in a MCain regime. I don't see her as having any influence in policy. Most probably, she'll be relegated to ceremonial duties as a pretty face on an ugly beast.

Zogby has McCain up two, but you're right--Rasmussen is the most reliable poll.

So Obama's up within the margin of error, with the Republican convention yet to go. And if Rasmussen's electoral college numbers are right, and McCain holds onto Colorado and Nevada, he's president.

Not happy about McCain being president. Thrilled to death that Obama might not be. Still, this is an election Republicans seem determined to lose, even deserve to. May as well turn it over to a fluff like Obama, than to a true believer like Al Gore or Hillary. Obama's already flipflopped on practically everything he said he was running for; the only thing he believes in is that he should be president. And maybe he will be.

Ray---do what I plan on doing. Hope McCain wins, then hope for his demise.

Ray,

You forgot the rest of us hunter neocons behind Hunter McCain and Palin the Stalking Horse ready to mop up any stray libs...er ducks.

#3 | Posted by fwthom

I find it funny that the neocons all think they are the only ones to own firepower or the ability and stones to use it..keep on dreaming scumbag.

The more I read up on this lady the less I like her.

Margin of error in Rasmussen is two points, so---NO---No bounce for Gidget.

You bet your commie ass that many of us Republicans are fired up about Sarah Palin!

I don't care WHO you are, honestly tell me you'd RATHER have Mitt Romney as your next vice president?

Ray---do what I plan on doing. Hope McCain wins, then hope for his demise.

#10 | Posted by rightisright

Best idea yet. A side reason: McCain is old and lazy. Obama is young and energetic. Theoretically, McCain is incapable of doing as much damage.

...And then tell me whether you think McCain/Palin *won't* clean up corruption, including in the Republican party.

I think she is McCain's life insurance policy.

He thought, "If something happens to me, SHE'LL finish the job and go after the corrupt ones!"

He thought, "If something happens to me, SHE'LL finish the job and go after the corrupt ones!"

#16 | Posted by kirk

Oh Puleease! Look up McCain's connection with the Keating 5. He's on the take with all the rest of the Washington gangsters.

"Chicago slumlord's heart Obama, too."

So does the Communist party of the USA:

I was thinking about my response to someone concerning the Palin pick and it dawned on me that after having the current nincompoop in office for the last eight years how can we pan anyone?

An excerpt from Sarah Palin on Alaskan oil.

IBD: What's your best assessment of Alaska's ongoing oil and gas potential and especially how much can be gotten from ANWR?

Palin: There are billions of barrels of oil underneath the ground up there on the North Slope including ANWR. In Alaska alone we can supply seven years of complete crude-oil independence, and eight years' supply of natural gas for Americans with ANWR (and) other areas of Alaska that we want to allow for development. That's proof that Alaska can be a significant player in the world market.

IBD: How long will it take to develop these areas? Critics say five to 10 years.

Palin: ANWR would take five years to begin providing crude oil to our pipeline. But you have to consider that if we'd started this five years ago, then we wouldn't be in this position right now. And who knows where we're going to be in another five years.

There are even bigger sources of crude than ANWR . . . such as offshore areas like the Chukchi Sea and Beaufort Sea. Congress can help us with those areas right now, bringing even more energy than ANWR and bringing it quicker.

We frequently find ourselves at the mercy of those who think that we must be protected from ourselves. Shell is up here wanting to drill offshore, but they've been fighting various environmental groups through the 9th Circuit Court and are running into very fierce pushback. In this area, Congress could help us with the development and bring those sources of energy to market quicker than ANWR.

IBD: Some politicians and presidential candidates say we can't drill our way out of our energy problem and that drilling in ANWR will have no effect. What's your best guess of the impact on prices?

Palin: I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can't drill our way out of our problem or that more supply won't ultimately affect prices. Of course it will affect prices. Energy being a global market, it's impossible to venture a guess on (specific) prices. We never would have thought oil would reach $140. Only a few months ago, we thought $100 would be the peak. And here it is at $140 (with) no end in sight.

It's very difficult to determine, but we do know the demand is going to continue to increase. The demand in Asia especially is one reason why prices are going to increase. But if I could predict energy prices, I wouldn't be sitting here today.

Why do cons heart Palin?

Guns and abortion ..... AGAIN

Unbelieveable

"Dan Quayle in a Pony Tail"

Best idea yet. A side reason: McCain is old and lazy. Obama is young and energetic. Theoretically, McCain is incapable of doing as much damage.

#15 | Posted by Ray
* * * *

Plus, McCain will be facing a hostile Congress. Whereas the implication for voting against Obama's moronic policies would be the same as voting against him in the general election: if you don't play along, it must be that you're a racist.

Another aspect is that Joe Biden will be running concurrently for Vice President, and for Senator. If Obama wins the presidency, the governor will appoint his son, Bo, to his seat.

Power, power, power. Doesn't seem too confident, does he? Either in Obama's election, or in Bo's ability to make it on his own? Ah, well. Can't let silly things like elections stand in the way of another family of professional pols.

"Another family of professional pols."

Oh, you mean like the Bush family. I get it.

That's a good link Ray. And I can't be the only one really looking forward to the Palin/Biden debate.

On the Dem side, the Montana governor is a pretty bright guy too. But he's big into oil shale, which is too messy for effete libs that go to Denver.

Obama, every day for the rest of his life: "I should've picked Sebelius . . . ."

Obama should have picked Hillary.

He should have made Bill the Ambassador of Belgium and that would have been that.

If he picked Sebilius--the HC voters would have had a complete meltdown--I mean really really ugly.

Good Morning DR's!

Yes--Cons love Palin. Duh!

Now to be non partisan--if I may for a moment.

She has a different kind of experience and if she were a male--would likely not have been picked by McCain.

The same I am sure was argued for Tim Kaine for Obama--he was on the short list and with slightly less experience than Palin. But Obama wanted someone to deflect the inexperience bombs and with Biden he chose someone who fills that bill.

Are there other problems with Biden?--Yes, but I digress.

With Palin she walks the walk of a reformer, which is what McCain used to be and wants to remain.

Sarah has core values that middle class folks will relate to. I don't think she will be the same WA crap that we see with WA. I don't think she will agree on McCain down the laundry list either.

Sarah may be very to the right on abortion--but did anyone think McCain wasn't going to pick SCOTUS like Roberts? I am not sure about her global warming stance. I see she doesn't think there is global warming. But does that mean she flat doesn't think the planet is warming or that it is caused by man? Her comments on Intelligent Design has the libs flummoxed as well.

So McCain throws a Hail Mary. His pick is part reformer and part political. It has excited the base to the nth degree.

And it could fail--no doubt about it. Sarah could turn out to be a flake. (I doubt it but the libs are hoping for that)

But when folks see the Hail Mary go up and see it completed in the end zone--It's a beautiful thing.

There are two months and everyone wants to hear from Sarah--whether you agree with her or not--folks want to hear from her.

This is a historical election--something I am sure we all can agree on. Either a black man or a woman will be in the WH come November. It doesn't get any better than this.

#10 regarding # 3.

Great! We now have terrorist threats against those who question the choice of Palin.

Now I'm really convinced she's the right choice and I better vote for her or the Nazi-Cons are going to shoot me.

Gonna tell you America's best kept secret: Lib gunowners.

Gonna tell you America's best kept secret: Lib gunowners.

#30 | Posted by johnjkavanagh

The fucktards have an image in their heads of what they think a liberal is and in most cases it's about 180 degrees out of phase with reality.

It was a bunch of liberals who threw all of that tea in the water way back when in Boston, the conservatives were happily sucking on ol' king george's teat.

It doesn't get any better than this.

Yes it does, Murphy. Bristol Palin is pregnant.

Question to Palin: Are you offended by the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
Palins Answer: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.

Founding Fathers 1770s
Pledge written 1892 (100 yrs+ later)
under God appeared in pledge 1954 (200 yrs+ later)

Is this acceptable to the right, shouldn't a VP know American History better than this? just sayen'

I'm sure she's a nice lady and a great mom. I just don't see her eyeball-to-eyeball with Putin. Who has no soul to "look into", by the way.

In fact, the best things you can say about voting for McCain is that he's not Obama, and he might not survive his term.

I wonder how much it must be driving the Obamaniacs nuts, that he's tied in the polls. It makes me happy.

#4 | Posted by rightisright

It makes you happy that he's not Obama and he might not survive his term... Wow ! Great endorsement !

(His mother is about Reagan's age).

"Cons Heart Palin"

McCain obviously does.

He called a woman he'd only spoken with for under an hour before they appeared in Dayton his 'Soulmate'.

He was twirling his wedding band and staring at her ass a lot on Friday too.

AU--

I saw him do that too. But then I was watching his interview with John Sullivan of CNN (?) the Revealed program.

He did the same thing. If it's not with his finger tips it's his ring.

Body language says it is a soothing or reinforcing motion to the person.

I think he was staring at her notes and not her butt. Probably amazed she can read and speak at the same time and do it so well. ;o)

How about the Obama and Jill Biden kiss? Or was that a close one?

And yes Sit--the daughter is pregnant and getting married. Wrong order--but it happens.

Glad to see they don't see their daughter's pregnancy as a "punishment" like Obama. He would have them abort his grandchild. But to each their own.

Imagine if this had been one of Obama's kids, or Chelsea?

There'd be a right-wing lynch mob after them.

Trying to burn them at the stake for "immorality."

I do wish the kid well. She must feel terrible.

"He did the same thing. If it's not with his finger tips it's his ring."

I'm going to attempt to complete the image here, Murphy.

As he does that, he sings his favorite song---which McCain swears was his favorite when he became a POW (you've heard he was a POW, yes?), even though it wasn't written until years later---ta dum: ABBA's "Dancing Queen."

Think about it.

But get a barf bucket in place first.

I read an interview with her in Alaska magazine 6 months ago, and was impressed...though I thought she was a democrat! When i heard her acceptance speech I was flabbergasted. She's the real deal, and sounds very intelligent.

Guess Hillary is upset that another women has beat her to the punch! Also hear Peta is none to happy with her. being a hunter and a fisherman as well i like her as a dark horse with real beliefs that aren't being faked for the ticket.

My fishing club is going to ask her if she wants to be an honorary member! (Arthur Ashe was)

She has as much or more accomplished then Obama, and I can see the dem's are upset with her pick...

Go Palin! We need cut BIG GOVERNMENT waste!

#7 | Posted by Unclesam at 2008-09-01 10:00 AM |

ya mean like the bridge to nowhere?

She has as much or more accomplished then Obama, and I can see the dem's are upset with her pick...

#40 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2008-09-01 02:51 PM

yeah i can see how being the ex mayor of moose dick alaska is so much more accomplished than being a senator.

a dark horse with real beliefs that aren't being faked for the ticket.

Beliefs, maybe; practical application of same - woefully missing.

Glad to see they don't see their daughter's pregnancy as a "punishment" like Obama. He would have them abort his grandchild. But to each their own.

#37 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-09-01 02:12 PM |

do you actualy read what you type?

And yes Sit--the daughter is pregnant and getting married. Wrong order--but it happens. -Murphy

And often the wrong "solution" when you are 17 years old. But did she have any choice in the matter?

You blew it, Dems - its over for you - this is going to be a romp for McCain/Palin - take your nastiness and wallow in snatching defeat again - you need to get real and stop being maniplulated by the hard left -

Anyone notice that Palin has that "sinking feeling" lately? GOP handlers are working her over with amplified affectations and schemes to win over the last remaining neocons or hillary leftovers still not on life support.

Alaska is starting to look really good.

Sorry honey, not until they cook up some story of you needing to get back to the frozen tundra, your stuck with the political machine.

... Oh to be skinning a bear or some other worthless wildlife creature......

Deluxe can you name me ONE accomplishment of Obama's...?????

NO I DIDN'T THINK YOU COULD because he doesn't have any. He has lots of experience (twenty years) with a racist preacher and strong ties to a black panther though!

And yes i would say being an elected Governor with an 80% approval rating, being head of their national Guard, negotiated a nat gas pipeline with concessions from big oil, having a commercial fisherman and steelworker Union member husband..all counts for a lot with me!

The more we learn about the more we libs heart Palin. But for the opposite reasons than the cons. She is going to seal the deal and hand us the WH. Thank you Mr. McCain.

It was a bunch of liberals who threw all of that tea in the water way back when in Boston, the conservatives were happily sucking on ol' king george's teat.

#31 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2008-09-01 01:18 PM

Show me the proof that they were liberals.

What would you like, voter registration cards?

Here is the very first thing that the google spit out. It wastes no time at all in letting you know that Liberals started the revolution, and that if it was up to the conservatives, the tories as they called them, and still call them in Great Britian, we would still be happily living under a Monarchy.

Thank you, son, that is all. Feel free to try again when the wind hits you right, laddie. ;)

You blew it, Dems - its over for you - this is going to be a romp for McCain/Palin - take your nastiness and wallow in snatching defeat again - you need to get real and stop being maniplulated by the hard left -

#46 | Posted by notmoretax at 2008-09-01 03:42 PM

Ah yes... Mr Poopypants and a MILF...against the first black man to get the nomination for President who happens to be a negative of Abraham Lincoln .

oh yes we better run! WE better hide! It's all over now....

LMAO!

Mr Poopypants and a MILF...against the first black man to get the nomination for President who happens to be a negative of Abraham Lincoln .
* * * *

The negative of Abraham Lincoln. Now THAT'S funny.

Somehow, I don't see the State of Illinois voting to switch out their license plates just yet.

Palin, the perfect executive experience to balance the Republican Presidential ticket: the mayor of a town of 5500, with 1979 occupied housing units, who couldnt even get that right.

The legacy Mayor Sarah Palin left Wasilla, Alaska: the Wasilla Multi-Use Sports Complex, with an NHL-size ice arena, an indoor artificial turf court, and millions of dollars in debts and hundreds of thousands more in lawsuit expenses.

Mayor Sarah Palin bungled the land acquisition, had to pay legal bills for a heavy-handed attempt to eminent-domain-- the property (arent Republicans supposed to be for property rights?), and ended up paying $1.7 million for land that Wasilla could have bought for $125,000.

The $14.7 million sports facility in a town of 5500 is partally financed by a raise in sales taxes. (against taxes?)

"McCain and his coterie of neocon, war-mongering imperialists are the hunters. Sarah Palin is the stalking horse. And you and me, we're the ducks."

Who is the "we" to whom you refer? Other like minded morons?

WHO won in 2004 again?

Oh I think I remember now, George W Bush did.

McCain/Palin is lightyears better than Bush/Cheney (I'd love to hear one of you libs *admit* that--it just takes humility).

Kerry was better in many ways than Obama, but white and less charismatic.

And W won handily.

Sorry guys, Dems can keep the House and Senate...

Although the tea party was a bit controversial, even among Colonials. Ben Franklin stated the the British needed to be repaid for the destroyed tea and offered to pay for it himself.

The whole issue was the British dropping a tariff so that the East India Company could sell direct to the colonies, undercutting the prices of local merchants (/smugglers) such as John Hancock and Samuel Adams here in Boston. So you could see this battle as a struggle for the little guy small business vs a big, government supported monopoly.

They weren't really pushing for change at that time so they weren't acting neccesarily in the dictionary definition sense of liberal (seeking progress or reform) although you could say there was a sense of this, as well as standing up for the little guy vs. the rich and powerful. On the other hand, a lot of it had to do with protecting the profitability of certain people's business...and some of these guys (Hancock especially) were smuggling tea in from overseas.

"McCain/Palin is lightyears better than Bush/Cheney (I'd love to hear one of you libs *admit* that--it just takes humility)."

Certainly. McCain & Palin may be lower than the lowest whale shit in the deepest part of the deepest ocean...but they are still standing on the shoulders of Bush and Cheney.

Took no humility at all. I thought the Repubs should have nominated Mccain in 2000. They went with the village idiot with a ton of money behind him. McCain got chewed up in that machine, then he sold his soul to them.

Being "better than Bush/Cheney" is not a particularly high hurdle to jump. And, frankly, I think it is still questionable whether they really "won" or not. But I do know for a fact that this country lost and lost big time when we let those clowns into office.

And they were "deists".

(Not "Christians".)

(A very important bit of nuance fabricated by the left-wing blogosphere so things make sense.)

"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."

Thomas Jefferson

I love Sarah Palin. She guarantees my Party victory in November. And she highlights every criticism I have been making about hypocrisy and the GOP for such a long time.

Do "Cons-Heart-Palin" for her first nationally televised lie, given in her first speech as the new Republican VP candidate?

Palin backed 'bridge to nowhere' in 2006

MODER8- I think she might be doing a better job of it than the Mormon ever could have.

What's most interesting about the Palin pick is what it says about McCain. The McCain camp just sent a team to Alaska to "vet" Palin in the wake of some bad press. Seems they didn't do it before, perhaps because Palin is McCain's "soulmate".

McCain's choice tells a story about how McCain will act as President, and it's not encouraging.

"And they were "deists".

(Not "Christians".)

(A very important bit of nuance fabricated by the left-wing blogosphere so things make sense.)"

Geez, you've got us Pinche...all along we've been going along with all the historians and hiding the fact that all of our founding fathers were fundamentalist evangelical Christians. And that they were channelling Falwell, Dobson and Robertson even before they were born.

Study the biographies of the founders and you'll see that most of them were not orthodox Christians. And those that were weren't exactly thinking along the same lines as today's evangelicals and dominionists. In fact, the vast majority of them were pretty adament abot keeping religious affairs and government strictly seperated.

Or you could be like Palin and think that the founding fathers regularly recited the pledge of allegiance.

Or maybe you weren't aware that the modern evangelical movement didn't even exist in the late 1700s...and that Christianity was a lot different than it is today.

But then I guess since some of them mentioned God in their writings, that means that we need to let the country be run by the church folks .... well, the conservative militaristic types of churchfolks who want to legislate personal morality...

What's most interesting about the Palin pick is...

What's most interesting about the Palin pick is that McCain picked a #2 that's better qualified to be POTUS that the socialist party's #1.

And the socialist party's #1 hasn't even begun to be beaten about the head in a national forum regarding his associations with Communists (Gamelial, Ayers, etc.) yet.

Pinche-
You'd think that McCain would have done a little research on his pick. It seems clear he didn't.

BTW, re this kinda crap: "And the socialist party's #1 hasn't even begun to be beaten about the head in a national forum regarding his associations with Communists (Gamelial, Ayers, etc.) yet."

You sound like a drunk John Bircher. wonder why that is...

It's probably wise at this late point that Palin lawyered up in the pending "trooper-gate" case, and that the McCain camp finally vets his "soulmate".

I look forward to whatever shoes drop next.

Geez, you've got us Pinche...

Geez, you've got us liberal dipshit...

All along we've been thinking that 18th century political thought regarding church and state---what with the Anglican Church of England and all that--were perfectly applicable to the left-wing "arguments" that exist in 21st century America.

"Deism" is one of those quaint concepts that means exactly jack shit in the age of rampant, main-stream faggotry and infanticide.

But it sure is exotic sounding, isn't it?

Cons heart Palin?

The FFL and Sarah certainly seem to be BFFs.

Not that they endorse her or anything but they had this odd blurb on their site after Palin's Veep announcement was made.

[August 29, 2008] Sarah Palin, governor of Alaska, has been selected by Republican presidential nominee Senator John McCain as his running mate.

According to The Anchorage Daily News published August 6, 2006, "Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child." The article went onto say that "she's a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life." "I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,' she said."

Feminists for Life's policy is that all memberships are confidential. However, since Governor Palin has been public about her membership, we can confirm that Palin became a member in 2006.

Earlier this week Feminists for Life reacted to the inclusion of woman-centered solutions in the Democratic Party platform, and the inclusion of FFL's trademarked message, "Women deserve better than abortion," in the Republican Party platform.

FFL President Serrin Foster said "It is unprecedented to see the platforms of both major U.S. political parties incorporate key pieces of FFL's unique message."

"Of course there is a certain excitement about the recent movement toward FFL's woman-centered solutions and message by the parties, and now the selection of a pro-life feminist as the Vice Presidential nominee. But as a nonpartisan organization, we cannot endorse any candidates," Foster said.

"FFL members represent a broad political as well as religious spectrum, and we remain both nonpartisan and nonsectarian. There are many issues outside Feminists for Lifes mission. Feminists for Life is dedicated to systematically eliminating the root causes that drive women to abortion - primarily lack of practical resources and support - through holistic, woman-centered solutions. We recognize that abortion is a reflection that our society has failed to meet the needs of women and that too often women have settled for less. Women deserve better than abortion," said Foster.

As each party takes steps to acknowledge and meet the needs of women, Feminists for Life is prepared to work with our elected leaders on behalf of girls and women who deserve far better than abortion. FFL has a long track record of working with both sides of the political aisle on major legislation such as the Violence Against Women Act, Child Support Enforcement Act, and much more. Many members of Congress have already stepped forward to cosponsor the FFL-inspired bill with bipartisan support, the Elizabeth Cady Stanton Pregnant and Parenting Student Services Act.

You'd think that McCain would have done a little research on his pick.

I'm sure he did.

It seems clear he didn't.

Why?

Wait.

I know.

Because you're a left-wing dumbshit that informs yourself with exactly 3 websites written by other left-wing dumbshits.

Meanwhile, in my country, she's a wonderful pick who appeals to the kind of people who go vote on election day.

You're going to be one angry, disillusioned little fucker this fall.

I can only hope you're beginning to come to terms with that.

"rampant, main-stream faggotry"

?

You seem awfully troubled by faggots, pinche. You must be quite a looker.

Not that they endorse her or anything but they had this odd blurb on their site after Palin's Veep announcement was made.

That wasn't particularly earth-shattering or controversial.

Or is the substance of a post a direct function of the amount of blockquote contained therein?

I got this guy named Tony you need to meet....

Hey pinch-my-ass-off,

How do you respond to the FACT that palin once left the USA before her little photo-op trip to Iraq? She had to get the first passport to make that trip. She apparently hasn't used it since.

Such wonderful foreign policy experience, eh?? Of course, she probably made a lot of trips to Canada to buy weed in her hippy chick days. That really gives me a warm fuzzy feeling in case Canada ever attacks.

You seem awfully troubled by faggots, pinche.

Oh, they disgust me, Boyd.

You must be quite a looker.

Oh yes.

"Meanwhile, in my country, she's a wonderful pick who appeals to the kind of people who go vote on election day."

I am totally confident that the investigation into how she tried to get her brother-in-law fired will amount to nothing (before election day, which is why she lawyered up) and that she is well prepared to be president should the 72 y.o. McCain have a stroke or something. I'm also sure everyone shares your confidence, especially in the context of our most pressing national concern - that of "rampant, main-stream faggotry and infanticide". I'm sure the lovely Palin is quite up to this task.

You'd think that McCain would have done a little research on his pick.

Yer giving McAncient waaay too much credit.

McCain never picked Palin.

She was picked for him by the same forces in the GOP he's sold his soul too.

The same ones that have made him revert to the party line and reverse all his previously held "Maverick" positions including reversing Roe v. Wade, the over-influence of the evDEVILicals and Talibaptists over the GOP core and of course the one that sed torture was bad and shouldn't be done ever by Americans.

The ones who turned him into McSameCo.

Do. Not. Want.

Be Well.

How do you respond to the FACT that palin once left the USA before her little photo-op trip to Iraq?

Um...

That she left the USA before her photo-op trip to Iraq?

I'm trying to figure out whether Ass-Off is just a Rtard kool-aid-connoisseur or a racist trying hard to justify not voting for the best qualified candidate just because his mother was a middle class white girl the had a real job and work hard instead of a rich bitch who made a living spreading her legs for the Admiral.

I'm also sure everyone shares your confidence, especially in the context of our most pressing national concern - that of "rampant, main-stream faggotry and infanticide". I'm sure the lovely Palin is quite up to this task.

I certainly hope so, Boyd.

That wasn't particularly earth-shattering or controversial

~Pinchy Tuscadero

No, it was more wot you'd call "informative".

You know, like the opposite of one of yer posts.

Be Well.

I, for one, find it encouraging that we have citizens like Pinche who are willing to ignore the harsh and complex realities of the nation at this important crossroad in a mindless quest to protect themselves from the advances of "rampant, main-stream faggotry", for which they suffer so horribly - and merely because they are so darned adorable.

No, it was more wot you'd call "informative".

I can blockquote 10 paragraphs on the breeding habits of the Cagle's Map Turtle and call it "informative".

You're just running your fucking mouth off.

Pinche,

Have you finally determined what your parameters are for "rich" and "poor"?

I, for one, find it encouraging that we have citizens like Pinche who are willing to ignore the harsh and complex realities of the nation at this important crossroad in a mindless quest to protect themselves from the advances of "rampant, main-stream faggotry", for which they suffer so horribly - and merely because they are so darned adorable.

Well that speaks well of your tolerance and understanding, Boyd.

And I'm glad you find our struggle encouraging.

Can we sing an Afro-American Spiritual together?

I think she's a fine pick for VP, Pinche, and so does everyone. You, like McCain, should pledge your heart to her as a "soulmate" and ignore all of those faggot babykillers who suggest that possibly McCain picked her on a politically motivated whim without even checking her out thoroughly solely because she was a staunch pro choice woman, without the slightest thought to what would happen if she actually had to run the country.

You go, and good luck on beating the faggots away from your doorstep.

"Meanwhile, in my country, she's a wonderful pick who appeals to the kind of people who go vote on election day."

the latest polls, taken after Palin selected, seem to show the opposite
Rasmussen Obama 49 McCain 46
Cbs Poll Obama 48 McCain 40
Gallup Obama 49 McCain 43

it would seem that her "game changing" didn't change the game

"What's most interesting about the Palin pick is that McCain picked a #2 that's better qualified to be POTUS that the socialist party's #1."

That would be true if the main task of the President was to mediate disputes between moose and bears.

Have you finally determined what your parameters are for "rich" and "poor"?

I'm still waiting for my definition of "middle class".

It's nice of you to hold his coat, though.

Correction: "pro-life"

McCain Fucked Up. He had one meeting and one phone call with his "soulmate", and now the McCain camp is scrambling around Alaska in damage control. They have no idea what they've done.

"It's nice of you to hold his coat, though."

I'm holding nothing except contempt for someone who won't answer the same type of question he demands others answer. I never entered your discussion of "middle class"; you brought up "rich" and "poor", and I asked for your definition. Since then you've danced so much I'm convinced you're wearing red shoes.

seem to show the opposite

That's not the "opposite", Onna.

Those aren't the kinds of numbers I'd be trumpeting after 8 years of the Evil Bush.

Especially pre-convention.

You're fucked, Big Guy.

People don't like bright-eyed commie fucks that are (by God) gonna "change" everything, Kamarade.

Sorry.

"That would be true if the main task of the President was to mediate disputes between moose and bears"

She would surely use the standard redneck mediation technique: kill 'em all and let god sort them out.

I can blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah your fucking mouth off

~Pinchtogrowaninch

Wow, just wow.

Very informative stuff, Moo.

Relevant, on-topic, highly informed debate.

Yer erudite wisdom continues to shine forth like a stream of bat's piss in the night.

Be Well.

/too obscure?

They don't even know the woman. She's obviously female, and she's a "pro-life" creationist. That's where the vetting stopped. She fit the political surface he was looking for, and that's it. Good luck to them on spinning it.

I bet if we push Ass-Off a little further tonight he'll be calling us all a bunch of n_gger-lovers next.....

Pinche-
Hell, I guess you can justify any sort of bullshit if you're defending yourself against the unwanted advances of rampant commie faggotry (which is you in a nutshell)

I'm holding nothing except contempt for someone who won't answer the same type of question he demands others answer

The question I asked was what one's definition of "middle class" was.

Not an unreasonable question.

Especially when the person I asked was so quick to preclude himself from being middle class.

Hell, I guess you can justify any sort of bullshit if you're defending yourself against the unwanted advances of rampant commie faggotry

Absolutely.

Yer erudite wisdom continues to shine forth like a stream of bat's piss in the night.

Mao sez thanx.

(Better?)

Damn!

It just dawned on me that I'm actually attempting to debate someone whose primary argument is that his enemy is a cabal of communist faggots.

Night y'all.

They don't even know the woman. She's obviously female, and she's a "pro-life" creationist. That's where the vetting stopped. She fit the political surface he was looking for, and that's it.

She's going to be your vice president, Felix.

And, quite possibly, your president someday.

Let's learn her together.

People don't like bright-eyed commie fucks that are (by God) gonna "change" everything, Kamarade.

Are you that fucking Rtarded, Mao, that you actually believe yer own bullshit?

Yer cold war rhetoric is years out of date.
Obama aint no communist.
He aint no revolutionary.
No Marxist.

He's a corporatist just like McSame.

Just like practically every other pol in DC and around the country at the higher levels.

Obama's just not as beholden as McBush.
Not as much of a total whore.
Not as committed to FAILed policy.

The last eight years have been a couple of turns for the worse fer America.

McAncient represents another bad turn.

One that America can ill-afford.

On several levels.

That's pretty much the long and shory of it.

08ama/Biden '08.

Be Well.

It just dawned on me that I'm actually attempting to debate

Except you're not "debating" anything, Boyd.

You're just posing a series of stupid-ass, rhetorical questions premised entirely on your stunted understanding of things.

You're not smart enough to do the Socratic thing, Boyd.

You really aren't.

And you've been told that before.

Obama aint no communist.
He aint no revolutionary.
No Marxist.

He's a corporatist just like McSame.

Just like practically every other pol in DC and around the country at the higher levels.

But that makes you a pretty crass and disingenuous son of a bitch, doesn't it?

One that America can ill-afford.

LOL.

We'll let your marginally-informed Canadian ass know what America can "ill-afford" or not.

Trust me.

"The question I asked was what one's definition of "middle class" was.
Not an unreasonable question."

But I never entered that discussion. You yourself brought up "rich" and "poor" and never answered that "reasonable question". If you actually believe it's reasonable, why won't you answer a similar query?

Which is it, Pinche? Liar, or hypocrite?

the question of "close polls" came up at an Obama campaign in Portland, the crowd was over 60,000, Obama always outdraws McCain, so local reporter tried to find someone in the crowd that particpated in a poll, he couldn't find any one, admittedly he didn't talk to all 60,000 but a representative sample. couple that with Obama's campaign gear selling 5 times more than McCain's makes you wonder what the outcome may be, huh?

Obama always outdraws McCain

So does Hannah Montana.

Luntz's session may explain to PINCHE MAO why Hannah Montana outdraws McCain! May be anyone outdraws McCain!

You yourself brought up "rich" and "poor"

Let's dumb it down for you a little.

Declaring yourself neither "rich nor poor" is a reasonable self-assessment---shared by 99% of the people who post on this blog.

Declaring yourself "not middle class" is an absurd self-assessment---and indicative of an author who is either extremely wealthy, or whose understanding of the world around him is shaped almost entirely by cliches.

But I never entered that discussion.

Of course you did.

The mean ole Mao was beating up on your little buddy for something stupid he said, so you shit us all a deflection.

"Let's dumb it down for you a little."

Let's not.

You were the one who volunteered "rich" and "poor", and then pretended you had no parameters, as if anyone with a brain would buy that crap.

I merely showed what a hypocrite you are, demanding an answer when you're unwilling to answer a similar question. The height, though, was refusing to answer after you claimed such queries were perfectly reasonable.

"you shit us all a deflection."

You were the one who brought up "rich" and "poor". Nice try, though.

"So does Hannah Montana."

Thank Gawd McCain didn't know that; the presumptive Republican VP would be Miley Cyrus.

I said nothing stupid. I stated a fact. That I wouldn't prove it by giving you my net worth doesn't even matter.

If I had, you'd just call me further names, regardless.

Your statement that no one you had ever met said they weren't middle class? Bullshit. You either live in a total bubble or you HAVE met rich/poor that made no illusions to you of their status whatsoever.

Then again, you can't even fucking define "rich" or "poor" mao. You asked danforth to go look it up on the net the other night, but expected me to do YOUR homework for you.

Declaring yourself neither "rich nor poor" is a reasonable self-assessment---shared by 99% of the people who post on this blog.

Which is probably a lie in quite a few cases. Middle class is what most poor and rich people pretend to be these days. One for status or to cover embarrassment, the other because they don't want to be asked for money or hated.

Most ridiculous of all is Pinche trying to pawn off he's neither "rich" nor "poor" while pretending he has no parameters for either.

That would not only fail a logic class, it would fail a high school debate.

Let's not.

Let's do.

You were the one who volunteered "rich" and "poor"

I just said I was neither rich nor poor-- a reasonable self-assessment probably shared by 99% of the people who post on this blog.

I merely showed what a hypocrite you are, demanding an answer when you're unwilling to answer a similar question.

Except that's not a similar question.

If you're gong to announce to the world that you're not "middle class", it seems to me that you'd better have a fairly good understanding of what "middle class" is.

Asking what that definition is is perfectly reasonable.

Making pathetic deflections to the inquisitor regarding his definitions of extremely subjective concepts like "rich" or "poor" is not.

All the anal-retentive pride on earth isn't going to win you this debate, Danforth.

I'd suggest waiting patiently and finding something else to "get me" with.

This one isn't doing much for you, buddy.

Middle class is what most poor and rich people pretend to be these days. One for status or to cover embarrassment, the other because they don't want to be asked for money or hated.

Re-posted without comment.

(Not really. I'm laughing my ass off.)

One for status or to cover embarrassment, the other because they don't want to be asked for money or hated.

Are you for real?

How old are you?

I just said I was neither rich nor poor-- a reasonable self-assessment probably shared by 99% of the people who post on this blog.

#119 | Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-09-02 01:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'm just a middle class guy that worked his ass off his whole life---but got his education.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-26 03:45 AM | Reply

There is no "class".

There are individuals who "can", and there are individuals who "can't".

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 01:44 AM | Reply

Keep moving those goalposts, "dipshit".

I really don't understand why you folks don't get the fact that the "rampant" spread of "faggotry" and "communism" are the most pressing issues of our time.

Pinche gets it.

You go pick that torch back up, Danforth. :)

Good luck.