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The choice of Sarah Palin as John McCain's running mate might finally rip the mask off those who've now exposed themselves to public ridicule for being so nakedly partisan in pushing political narratives proving they put agenda over even a modicum of common sense. There is already enough documented and anecdotal evidence showing Palin might be the most unqualified person ever chosen for VPOTUS.

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I'm making this known before the shit hits the proverbial fan. The day of reckoning is nigh.

After witnessing perhaps the greatest political speech in our lifetime on Thursday night; a call to reclaim the virtues and honor that have defined this nation since its inception; we have seen one of the most crass political miscalculations in the history of American presidential politics occurring within hours after that zenith.

Watch, look, and listen. Etch the names to your memory banks: Kristol, Barnes, Watkins, and all the others trying to sell the absurd notion that Sarah Palin is the pinnacle of John McCain's presidential judgment, once and for all proving he puts "country first" as his campaign states.

Sarah Palin, within the next 5 days, will become the new standard for miserable failure and mistaken judgment that our culture will echo for years to come. Her name will resonate like "Katrina" does now. Her name is likely to become the biggest symbol of American derision, namely a verb. "Palined" is a likely candidate for eternal status as something which looks pretty but goes tragically and horribly wrong. Barring a catastrophic unforeseen turn, John McCain just paved the way for a Barack Obama landslide victory come November 4th.

Here's why I say this: Not everyone in the GOP is insane. Many are going to recoil at the story of her both continuing a scheduled speech and flying after her water broke, potentially endangering both her and her child. They will question her emerging problems in Alaska and her connection to its disfunctional government. They will see she has little intellectual heft going up against two men who worked their way through higher education and who have rubbed shoulders with this planet's leaders, both political and cultural. They will tire of trying to explain just why McCain's snap-judgment was an example of "putting nation first" when even a person with no nose can smell the sheer political desperation involved in tapping her from obscurity.

Romney and Pawlenty won't stay quite forever, because McCain used their names for publicity sake, then threw them overboard at the 11th hour. Wanna see their ringing endorsements of Palin next week during the convention? Seen Joe Lieberman in the last 36 hours? Think he's going to declare Palin more qualified than Joe Biden for taking over the Presidency at a moment's notice? Think Traitor Joe is looking to be institutionalized if he does make such an idiotic claim?

Here's the bottom line: While McCain might be willing to place his entire political career on the line by placing his blind trust in Palin, just how many other GOPers are going to fall in line when the tragedy of her pick is merely hours from being exposed? They, unlike McCain, have far too much to lose, namely everything. John will just retire to one of his 12 houses.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Republican party elders are thinking of trying to talk McCain out of this madness. They have 4 days to prevent this fiasco.

This selection screams out, "Desperation!". And why not. Obama is already looking at a landslide this November.

There is something very fishy here in Alaska, as they say.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Republican party elders are thinking of trying to talk McCain out of this madness. They have 4 days to prevent this fiasco.

The convention is going to be one wild ride, I guarantee it! I wasn't even planning to watch, but now, I can't possibly miss it. I want to watch which one's sell their country, party and soul to the lunacy that Palin represents. McCain has so screwed the GOP it might take 2 decades for them to recover from his "tragic success". I never thought he might try to reach Boy Dunder, but for the non-war categories, this one's pretty impressive!

Serves 'em right for how much they're screwed us "non-base" citizens over the last 8 years.

"Fish picker from Texas....?"

We Texans have a saying---You can pick your friends, you can pick your fish, but you can't pick your friend's fish.


Wouldn't surprise me if the Republican party elders are thinking of trying to talk McCain out of this madness. They have 4 days to prevent this fiasco.
~NULLIFIDIAN


Wouldn't help, then he's a documented ass in his first big decision.

Wouldn't help, then he's a documented ass in his first big decision.

That's why McCain has so screwed the GOP. A veto-proof majority is guaranteed after this this fiasco.

Not only all the stupidity over her pregnancy, but she left Wissilla $20,000,000 in debt - all her doing.

McCain's out of his mind. Met her for an hour 6 months ago and makes a snap decision to 'shake up the race'.

How about making a decision based on all his 'experience' that would have been the best one for America in the event of his death in office - which I doubt will happen, and which I further think he just insured won't happen.

And this guy is supposed to possess the "experience" to lead us? After it's been so well pointed out that he wants to lead us in the same direction 85% of Americans no longer wish to pursue, he's doomed himself from ever reaching the WH.

"Wouldn't help, then he's a documented ass in his first big decision."

Exactly. They're screwed no matter what they do. You gotta love it. Hahahahaha.

We Texans have a saying---You can pick your friends, you can pick your fish, but you can't pick your friend's fish.

#6 | Posted by Zed

You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you cant pick your friends nose.

Palin, huh? What a stupid pick. I read somewhere she was already under investigation for something. Anything to this?

This pick illustrates mcsames depth of intellect.

But let's not lose focus of those "knowing fools" that shovel this shit like its shinola. After Thursday night when Obama recaptured the lexicon from the lemming-right, its time to put sanity back into political reporting. Its not okay to merely report lies foisted by either party and then let them lay there for the public to choose which they like better for the sake of "balance".

Balance is another way of saying "I'm going to tell you bullshit and the other side might tell you the truth, but I want you to consider each of them as having equal merit but for political side they come from. And by the way, those guys can't be trusted."

These servants of ignorance must be called to atone for their mounting sins against the virtues of truth, justice, and honesty. None of those forcefully making the case for Palin should be forgotten, nor should they be let off the hook for their complete disregard for this nation's well-being. They are the anti-patriots because they seek to undermine the people's ability to get to the things which really matter by continually hijacking the search to focus on their carefully parsed talking points.

This is the opportunity gang and we better seize it while it lays so nakedly bare.

Conversely, we must acknowledge those conservatives daring to speak truth when confronted by head-scratching incompetence. Ponnuru, Frum, and Buchanan, to name a few, have doubted the wisdom of McCain picking Palin. Their doubts will become manifest in the coming days, just like the great hurricane bearing down on our shores. It is a perfect storm. I only pray innocent people manage to survive them both.

I can't wait for an updated version of '3AM Phone Call' ad.

It will feature president Palin 2 months after McBush is 'retired' for Alzheimer's. The phone rings and rings and rings.....no answer......the prez is out spotlighting Moose.

For you non-hunters, spotlighting is one of the most unsportsmanlike way of hunting game possible. The miscreants drive around in a pickup truck using powerful spotlights to look for an animal to kill, shine the spotlight in its eyes thereby blinding it temporarily making it impossible for the animal to get away and the blast away from the comfort of the truck.

This is what Palin's shiteating shills gleefully boasted about her, Moose hunting at 3AM.

What a bunch of 'tards.

Former House Speaker Gail Phillips, a Republican political leader who has clashed with Palin in the past, was shocked when she heard the news Friday morning with her husband, Walt.

"I said to Walt, 'This can't be happening, because his advance team didn't come to Alaska to check her out," Phillips said.

Phillips has been active in the Ted Stevens re-election steering committee and remains in close touch with Sen. Lisa Murkowski and other party leaders, and she said nobody had heard anything about McCain's people doing research on his prospective running mate.

"We're not a very big state. People I talk to would have heard something."

www.adn.com

Today's Washington Post already is printing a story of how thorough their vetting process was and Dan Balz buys it hook line and sinker. I'm telling you, all the home-team players are being exposed for what they are and they don't even realize it yet.

rappin ronnie raygun has gotta be spinning at warp speed in his grave!

TR, as soon as I saw McSame intro Palin on TV, I had the same gut reaction as the author of your article had:

"I have a gut feeling that we're headed for another Thomas Eagleton situation where a vice presidential nominee is dropped before Election Day."

And unlike the Eagleton situation, where Eagleton was actually well-qualified and a deep thinker about issues, Palin is (a) not realistically qualified to be a fully functioning VP and certainly not a fully functioning POTUS should that be necessary, and (b) an ideologue who is in the pocket of big oil and hardly a brain on any subject that required insight and analysis.

Correction: "requires", not "required".

Throughout all this [the DNC], the McCain campaign remained hyperactive, almost succumbing at times to attention deficit disorder. They kept making somewhat crude appeals to the Clinton camp; they kept threatening to announce the vice-presidential pick before Obamas speech; they went overboard on the Greek temple foofaraw. And then they unveiled their counterstroke: Sarah Palin as vice-president, a woman whose educational experience is limited to a journalism degree at the University of Idaho, who has no experience or even interest in foreign policy, and who has less than two years of experience as the 44-year-old governor of Alaska, a state with a mere 700,000 residents.

It was a brilliant, attention-grabbing move. It dominated the news cycle in the wake of Obamas well received speech on Thursday night; it appealed to women and to the Hillary voters; it rallied the pro-life base, as Palin is firmly against abortion rights and has just given birth to a Downs syndrome child; it offered a fresh face to rail against corruption in Washington; it helped McCains maverick image; and it enabled McCain to present himself as the candidate of change, rather than following the Clinton strategy against Obama of representing experience.

It was another tactic guerrilla-style, clever, nimble, deft. But, one senses, also a little desperate, a little too risky, a little unserious. America is at war with lethal enemies, its economy is teetering, its people are unsettled. And McCain gave us a 44-year-old former beauty queen as the person who could be asked to take over the White House in an emergency if anything happened to the oldest first-term president in American history. Tactically: daring. Strategically: potentially disastrous.

Game on. And, advantage: Obama.
~Andrew Sullivan
www.timesonline.co.uk

> she left Wasilla $20,000,000 in
> debt - all her doing.

Source, please? I haven't seen anything about this.

Geez, Tony, you sound dowright scared about Palin.

If she's really such a terrible choice you would be celebrating it. Instead there's a tone of anger and desperation in your ranting.

There is anger to be sure. The anger belongs to every voter who would like to have the candidates take the process seriously.


Desperation belongs to McCain and his campaign.

If she's really such a terrible choice you would be celebrating it. Instead there's a tone of anger and desperation in your ranting.

For once I wish the lemmings would break formation and take a look into the TRUTH the way people who REALLY love this nation always try to. This has never been personal nor merely an opposing political rant.

This has been about the fact that one major party's candidate, the very same one claiming to put "America First", is the same person who made the most stupid, non-vetted, non-debated, pull-it-from-his-gut decision on whom his running mate should be and the usual chorus of sycophants immediately break into hosanna refrains without first looking into precisely who and what the choice says about the man they want to become President.

I said all these things even before more damning information has been forthcoming during the media concentration on Gustav, yet the real tidal wave of truth about Palin's sheer lack of integrity and honesty, along with the defacto smoking guns of her complete unsuitability for being tapped as anyone's Number 2, is going to explode through America and the GOP with a force that makes Gustav look like a puff of wind.

See for yourselves, and it isn't pretty:

www.dailykos.com

mudflats.wordpress.com

talkingpointsmemo.com

John McCain's otherworldly lack of good judgment in choosing absolutely, positively the WORST nominee in the history of American electoral politics will cement his legacy as a person unserious enough to put himself, his party, and most of all this nation's well-being at severe risk on the basis of his whims and sheer political calculations.

Its simply appalling. And for those who disagree, please look up information on Palin like the links above. Its gets even WORSE!

With a push from the McCain camp, the conservative blogs are suddenly aflutter with claims about Sarah Palin's "executive experience" and readiness for the presidency based on her six years as Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska ...

talkingpointsmemo.com

Sarah Palin's Mother-In-Law: "I'm Not Sure What She Brings To The Ticket Other Than She's A Woman And A Conservative"

www.nydailynews.com

Republican bloggers are already gushing about how she has more executive experience than Obama does! Above is a picture of lovely downtown Wasilla, for those of you unfamiliar with the area. Behind the Mug-Shot Saloon (the first bar I visited when I moved to Alaska long ago) is a little strip mall. There are street signs in Wasilla with bullet holes in them. Wasilla has a population of about 5500 people, and 1979 occupied housing units. This is where your potential Vice President was two short years ago. Can you imagine her negotiating a nuclear non-proliferation treaty? Discussing foreign policy? Understanding non-Alaskan issues? Frankly, I don't even know if shes ever been out of the country. She may get Alaska, but there are only a half a million people here. Don't get me wrong.I love Alaska with all my heart. I'm just saying.

I, and all Alaskans will be interested to see how this whole process unfolds. This is definitely a gamble for McCain, and in my humble opinion, a gift to Obama and to Joe Biden who just got thrown a big hunk of red meat for the vice presidential debate.

This is the wedge-issue, desperate Hail Sarah pass of the McCain campaign.

mudflats.wordpress.com

Before everyone jumps to defend Sarah Palin all I'm saying is do a little investigating on your own. Look and see what the people who know her best are saying.

Stop and read what the top Republicans in Alaska are saying about not being contacted or asked their opinions on Sarah Palin's fitness for VPOTUS.

Check out her ongoing ethics investigation which with near ironclad certainty proves she's abused the power of her office for personal reasons and these facts were reported even in the national media long before McCain got a feeling in his gut. If the stories about only AFTER THE FACT has McCain sent researchers into Alaska to check Palin out, behind all the calm concern over the coming victims of Gustav is yet another crass political calculation of a candidate on the precipice of tossing his entire Party overboard in likely his last act of mindless political pandeering.

My only hope is this entire incident becomes the coming focal point of an entire cottage industry that openly exists to rot away the core of responsible journalism and reasoned investigation trying to replace it with naked partisanship and invented truth's sold to obscure the fact few even attempt to put objectivity into their message because to them the zero-sum game of win-at-all-costs trumps what's objectively best for this nation.

The truth about Palin will rip the mask off these intentional traitors to America and hopefully remove them from their perches of influence once and for all.

Vernon

If you were the presumptive Republican nominee for President of the United States of America, would you choose Sarah Palin as the wisest choice to be Vice president of the United States of America?

If you were the presumptive Republican nominee for President of the United States of America, would you choose Sarah Palin as the wisest choice to be Vice president of the United States of America?

They don't stop and think Ted, they just take it for granted every single moment in American politics is a zero-sum game and all they care about is winning the day's popularity contest which consists of determining which side of the echo chamber shouts louder and longer than the other. Then its on to the next battlefield without ever accessing what was the actual truth of the battle just fought.

This one is too big for even the most partisan soul to ignore. McCain has walked himself, his Party, and all those who faithfully tout the Party line without ever engaging their own skepticism unless its an opponent trying to make a case, to the edge of a cliff called "brash impetuous insanity" and begun to have them jump at the behest of his command.

This will devastate any notions of impartiality from those who've already walked off the cliff based on John McCain's personal judgment without even realizing there is no floor of basic rationality for having done so beneath them.

The chickens aren't coming home to roost, they're coming home to burn the entire coop down!

Vernon

Check out Tony's link from above


mudflats.wordpress.com


and then get back to us about the quals and experience of Madam Mayor.

That's why the important point about Palin's lack of experience isn't about Palin. It's about McCain. And the question is not how his choice of Palin might complicate his ability to use the "experience" issue, or whether he will have to drop experience as an issue. It's not even about the proper role of experience as an issue. In fact, it's not about experience at all. It's about honesty. The question should be whether McCain and all the other Republicans who have been going on for months about Obama's dangerous lack of foreign policy experience ever meant a word of it. And the answer is apparently not. Many conservative pundits woke up this very morning fully prepared to harp on Obama's alleged lack of experience for months more. Now they face the choice of either executing a Communist-style U-turn ("Experience? Feh! Who needs it?") or trying to keep a straight face while touting the importance of having been mayor of a town of 9,000 if you later find yourself president of a nation of 300 million.

We all know that modern political campaigns choose their issues from the cafeteria line, after market-testing them, and then having them professionally framed. Rarely, though, are we offered such a clear and unarguable example. How could anyone truly believe that Barack Obama's background and job history are inadequate experience for a president, and simultaneously believe that Sarah Palin's background and job history are perfectly adequate? It's possible to believe one or the other. But both? Simply not possible. John McCain has been what's the word? lying. And so have all the pundits who rushed to defend McCain's choice.

This is especially damning to McCain because his case for himself (besides not being Barack Obama, a standard under which many of us might qualify) has rested on his honor and integrity. The North Vietnamese couldn't break him, and neither could the Brahmins of his own party in the Senate. He was a maverick who always told it straight. So much for that.---Michael Kinsley

www.slate.com

Ha!

Pure projection from the party whose PRESIDENTIAL nominee is 2.5x LESS QUALIFIED and 8x MORE CORRUPT than the Governor of Alaska!

If anybody needs and are going to pay, it's the NETROOTS idiots at MOVEON.ORG, HUFFINGTON POST and DAILY KOS who put their prejudices into high gear and nominated the most INEXPERIENCED bomb-throwing left-wing radical they could find... Barack Hussein Obama.

Talk about a lack of judgement. The guy doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected.

PS...

I see a lot of smoke. But where's the beef? Politics runs on the code of honor-among-thieves. They don't get exposed unless they step out line.

Democrats could have made a big deal out of McCain's connection with the Keating 5, but they haven't. Why? Another case, Eliot Spitzer sexual infidelities weren't exposed until he threatened to send some Wall Street big shots to jail. The current AG, Mario Cuomo knows better, so he fines the companies instead.

The other Alaskan, Ted Stevens, famous for the bridge to nowhere who was recently indicted, was known as a prick among his peers.

This ain't Boy Scouts, Tony.

"And for those who disagree, please look up information on Palin like the links above. Its gets even WORSE!"


Tony! You don't REALLY expect anyone other than your little leftist-socialist butt buddies to link to DailyKos for accurate information on Palin, do you? Talk about poor judgment! I'm surprised you had the brass to post that link.
You and your little pals just don't understand. No matter who McCain picked, no matter how much y'all piss and moan about McCain, Palin, Bush, Cheney and whoever else, there are many of us who will never vote for a leftist-socialist who has mentors and confidants like Davis, Ayers, Rezko, Wright, et al. Here we have a candidate whom YOU endorse, along with the Communist Party of the USA and you believe WE should vote for him. Not in THIS lifetime!

cpusa.org

"The CPUSA used to take money from the Soviet Union to advance the objective of overthrowing the American government and replacing it with a totalitarian police state allied with the USSR against remaining democracies. In those days, Frank Marshall Davis was an active member. He was also mentor and father figure to a racist, drug-addled, left-wing punk who grew up (sort of) to be the presumptive Democrat nominee for president. So the endorsement isn't much of a surprise.

With Putin apparently trying to resurrect the Soviet empire, CPUSA's funding might pick up again. No doubt this would be good news for the Obama campaign."

What's McSame's next "snap decision"? An invasion of Russia?

I know he served his country; his country thanks him.

But he scares the hell outa me--and a lot of Conservative Republicans.

But he scares the hell outa me--and a lot of Conservative Republicans.

As he does most conscious Americans not immersed in the idiocy of non-analytical blather, otherwise known as rightwing talking points bereft of any personal knowledge counter to the published and repeated mantra.

They don't understand how his judgment and temperment aren't remotely suited for this nation's needs as its CIC.

He shoots first, aims second, and identifies the target third. Then, he might get around to determining whether or not the shot needed to be fired at all. Lastly, he'll never admit that he fired mistakenly because that might "encourage" our enemies to doubt his unshakable resolve.

He gets the logic completely wrong.

It likely encourages our enemies and friends to doubt his SANITY, not his resolve!

"With Putin apparently trying to resurrect the Soviet empire"

And killing Tigers...
www.timesonline.co.uk

TR as usual, your off, but this time by a factor of 10...

The cost of running the growing city, apart from capital projects and debt, rose from $3.9 million in fiscal 1996 to $5.8 million in fiscal 2002. Excess sales tax revenues went to paying for capital improvements such as roads and government buildings, says city finance director Ted Leonard.

Palin had priorities. She shrank the local museum's budget and deterred talk of a new library and city hall. But she also put in bike paths and obtained funds for storm-water treatment to protect the area's many lakes. She successfully pushed a half-percent sales tax increase to build a $15 million multi-use indoor ice arena. The popular sports complex is not breaking even, as its advocates projected, but the city's subsidy has been cut from $600,000 to $125,000 a year.
dwb.adn.com

Wasilla, Alaska

General - Interest on Debt: $1,210,000
Local Intergovernmental - All Other: $416,000
Highways: $34,000
Long Term Debt Beginning Outstanding - Water Utilities: $3,920,000
Long Term Debt Beginning Outstanding, NEC: $20,167,000
Long Term Debt Issue, Unspecified - Water Utilities: $3,314,000
Other NEC: $5,000
Long Term Debt Outstanding - Full Faith & Credit - Other, NEC: $17,410,000
Long Term Debt Outstanding Nonguaranteed - Water Utilities: $4,188,000
Other, NEC: $1,103,000
Long Term Debt Retired Unspecified - Water Utilities: $3,046,000
Other, NEC: $1,659,000

www.city-data.com

Gee, since Palin get's all the blames for Wasilla's balances sheet, does she get credit for Alaska's?

The Alaska Permanent Fund Corporation manages the assets of both the Permanent Fund and other state investments, but spending Fund income is up to the Legislature. The Corporation is to manage for maximum prudent return, and not--as some Alaskans at first wanted--as a development bank for in-state projects. The Fund grew from an initial investment of $734,000 in 1977 to the current sum of approximately forty billion dollars as of July 13, 2007

btw - Have you seen this year's per-resident dividend calculation? Woo-Hoo!

he Fund grew from an initial investment of $734,000 in 1977 to the current sum of approximately forty billion dollars as of July 13, 2007

Farmer John-are you SERIOUSLY stating that Palin created the APFC when she was 11?

Wow....

Maybe you should check out how she fucked up with Wasilla's land grab for the arena.

Gotta love these rightwingers praising the socialist Alaska Permanent Fund.

Farmer John-are you SERIOUSLY stating that Palin created the APFC when she was 11?

Yav...and Wasilla Alaska was founded in 1917. Are you SERIOUSLY implying that Sarah Palin personally signed for and ran up the towns entire debt while on the town council (since the mayor would only execute those programs budgetted for and approved, like a US president would)???

Wasilla, Alaska

General - Interest on Debt: $1,210,000
Local Intergovernmental - All Other: $416,000
Highways: $34,000
Long Term Debt Beginning Outstanding - Water Utilities: $3,920,000
Long Term Debt Beginning Outstanding, NEC: $20,167,000
Long Term Debt Issue, Unspecified - Water Utilities: $3,314,000
Other NEC: $5,000
Long Term Debt Outstanding - Full Faith & Credit - Other, NEC: $17,410,000
Long Term Debt Outstanding Nonguaranteed - Water Utilities: $4,188,000
Other, NEC: $1,103,000
Long Term Debt Retired Unspecified - Water Utilities: $3,046,000
Other, NEC: $1,659,000

Whatza madda, Yaz... you don't like it when your arguments turn up stupid?

You ought to try and argue on the basis of what you opponent says, not some strawman of your own construction.

Gotta love these rightwingers praising the socialist Alaska Permanent Fund.

...you mean a state-level program that actually has assets that weren't looted by corrupt Democratic legislators like the US Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid Funds were? Sure, I'll praise them. Now start drilling in MY state, asswipe! I could use a tax break!

...just don't let the "idiot/Pelosi" wing of Congress near them. Nancy doesn't need yet ANOTHER larger jet.

FARMER

You know very well the point of the larger jet was to have one that could fly nonstop for security reasons.

Facts in Conservadonia(TM) aren't allowed I suspect.

you don't like it when your arguments turn up stupid?

I haven't seen anything from you that refutes the point. You won't find anything either. The city of Wasilla, under Palin, ran up an additional 20,000,000 in debt. You'll find a lot of the folks in town are fine with it, since roads were improved, infrastructure in general was improved. You'll find a few people that don't agree with the sports complex (still isn't paying for itself).

Knock yourself out, though. Prove me wrong. I've been wrong before. Just don't say I'm wrong without any evidence.

You ought to try and argue on the basis of what you opponent says, not some strawman of your own construction.

#42 | POSTED BY FARMER_JOHN AT 2008-09-01 07:56 PM | REPLY | FLAG: Enormous Hypocrite

You know very well the point of the larger jet was to have one that could fly nonstop for security reasons.

Sorry, but since when is it in the Speaker's job description to negotiate treaties with foreign governments... and a jet with legs long enough to cross oceans? Security my ass.

I haven't seen anything from you that refutes the point.

In that case, she ran up $20 million in debts in Wasilla and in 2007 distributed $999,000,000 in royalty checks to Alaska residents from the Permanent Fund...

I'd say on the balance, Alaskan's did pretty well by her.

Enormous Hypocrite thy name is Yav

I'd say on the balance, Alaskan's did pretty well by her.

Then why is all that debt still on the books?

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