Looking at the Christmas Palin family pic her daughter is the one who looks 5 months pregnant:

Weve got a woman holding a shotgun, mixing up a batch of moose stew, defending her sick-- baby against the predatory demon democrats from the wilds of alaska, with her regular-joe, blue-collar husband who works in the oil fields and supplements the family income with fishing, all of her children clustering around except the brave young man just out of high school who has volunteered to join bushs war on terra.

Is this a weird dream?

Don't be a jerk AU--

From the article--

EARLY ARRIVAL

Palin was in Texas last week for an energy conference of the National Governors Association when she experienced signs of early labor. She wasn't due for another month.

Early Thursday -- she thinks it was around 4 a.m. Texas time -- she consulted with her doctor, family physician Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, who is based in the Valley and has delivered lots of babies, including Piper, Palin's 7-year-old.

Palin said she felt fine but had leaked amniotic fluid and also felt some contractions that seemed different from the false labor she had been having for months.

"I said I am going to stay for the day. I have a speech I was determined to give," Palin said. She gave the luncheon keynote address for the energy conference.

Palin kept in close contact with Baldwin-Johnson. The contractions slowed to one or two an hour, "which is not active labor," the doctor said.

"Things were already settling down when she talked to me," Baldwin-Johnson said. Palin did not ask for a medical OK to fly, the doctor said.

"I don't think it was unreasonable for her to continue to travel back," Baldwin-Johnson said.

So the Palins flew on Alaska Airlines from Dallas to Anchorage, stopping in Seattle and checking with the doctor along the way.

"I am not a glutton for pain and punishment. I would have never wanted to travel had I been fully engaged in labor," Palin said. After four kids, the governor said, she knew what labor felt like, and she wasn't in labor.

She consulted with her doctor. She had prior false labor during the preganancy.

This is a non issue--next--

Reread what you quoted, Murphy. She did not ask her doctor for the OK to fly.

The more stories like this come out, the more it will help her.

Most Americans don't know how the Vice President spends his day. What is Dick Cheney doing today? How did Al Gore spend his time when Clinton was president, and the week didn't feature other heads of state keeling over dead? How did Dan Quayle spend his time? I thought it was a good answer, an outside-the-beltway answer. Did anyone outside of a few policy wonks even understand douchebag Biden's lame joke about "The Vice President's office is on the line?"

I doubt it. So she got on a plane when she was pregnant, and wanted to deliver her child by her doctor, in her hospital, with family around.

Keep stories like this coming, along with stories about McCain's war service, and how he was in six plane crashes while serving in the Navy. Go ahead.

preganancy.

3 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-08-30 01:29 PM
who the hell is preganancy and why should we care?

"Looking at the Christmas Palin family pic her daughter is the one who looks 5 months pregnant:"

Ok now fellas. You can't have it BOTH ways. If it is her daughter's baby then we have to get off all this flyin' pregnant stuff. If it IS her baby, then she must be a pretty tough gal. When I was a teenager, I worked in a supermarket owned by Chinese immigrants. The family matriarch gave birth in a back room and was back out on the floor after about four hours. I always respected her for her grit.

"Weve got a woman holding a shotgun, mixing up a batch of moose stew, defending her sick-- baby against the predatory demon democrats from the wilds of alaska, with her regular-joe, blue-collar husband who works in the oil fields and supplements the family income with fishing, all of her children clustering around except the brave young man just out of high school who has volunteered to join bushs war on terra."

I thought all of our little leftist-socialist friends on the DR LIKED "regular-joe" kinda people? I know they've spent many, many hours talking about how the Obamessiah is just a regular-joe. I mean, he only owns one house and all...right?
OK, let's get it straight now:
Her baby...or the daughter's?
Obamessiah a regular joe....or not a regular-joe?

Damn, y'all have a really confusing double standard.

"I don't think it was unreasonable for her to continue to travel back," Baldwin-Johnson said.

This is pointless.

RiR

You all keep up your false bravado.

America isn't stupid. 85% of us think the country is headed in the wrong direction and McCain has promised more of the same.

Sorry, Charlie, but this is a blip in the radar.

BTW:

Gallup - August 30, 2008

Obama maintains national lead 49% - 41% (and he has a nice advantage in electoral votes. 30 more Virginia offices to open in addition to the 30 there. His ground game is massive. Party registration is weighed DEM over REP in all the swing states)

And GUSTAV will suck the news cycles for a few days.

A reminder of the tragic failures of Katrina

Rasmussen Reports is more accurate than Gallup, as Gore and Kerry found out.

Palin said she felt fine but had leaked amniotic fluid and also felt some contractions that seemed different from the false labor she had been having for months.

"I am not a glutton for pain and punishment. I would have never wanted to travel had I been fully engaged in labor," Palin said. After four kids, the governor said, she knew what labor felt like, and she wasn't in labor.

Ok, she knows she's having a DS baby and she starts leaking amniotic fluid, and she's not alarmed?

She is not due for another month and she's been having false labor for months and it changes and she's not alarmed?

She's had 4 children before and most of the time the more children you have the less time you're in labor, but she flies to Alaska from Texas?

One of the first things you do when you're leaking amniotic fluid is to go get checked out, have a doctor examine you to make sure there are no problems with the baby. Fetal heart monitor, maybe even a sonogram, but those weren't done. Why?

Sounds to me like she really didn't care about this child. She only spoke to her doctor. Her actions speak louder than words to me.

Yes Katrina--

And there is penty of blame to go around for that one isn't there AU?

Who gives a fuck? Is this really a story?

I had (4) beers at a Pittsburgh Steeler / Jets football game and had to pee so bad I could taste it. But waited till after the game to take a leak. Are you all proud of me?

Sounds to me like she really didn't care about this child. She only spoke to her doctor. Her actions speak louder than words to me.

#12 | Posted by Dragnlady

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I know!! What we really need are more good little liberals like you, to run things. We can't have women actually EXERCISING their so-called reproductive freedom, don't you know? Silly retards like me and the governor think that such decisions are between a woman and her doctor--but you know best!!

What a douchebag. You, I mean.
Keep the stories and comments coming. Nice to see that so many of the tough broads are Republicans.

MURPHY

So you say. The American public's perception is that Bush didn't care.

Of course, if the LA National Guard hadn't had to send it's heavy equipment to Iraq and half it's soldiers maybe the people of N.O. would have been helped sooner, or the levees strengthened beforehand.

You do know Bush cut funding for levee construction for N.O. don't you, or didn't that news make it to your suburb in SD?

So the Palins flew on Alaska Airlines from Dallas to Anchorage, stopping in Seattle and checking with the doctor along the way.

The doctor knew she was flying and approved. They checked "with the doctor along the way".

Urgency is on the freeway flying to the hospital, which is 30 minutes away, with your second and the labor is 4 minutes apart.

Luckily we got there with 45 minutes to spare when Dylan was born.

RiR

Palin is against abortion even in cases of rape and when the mother's life is in jeopardy.

Keep spinning

I had (4) beers at a Pittsburgh Steeler / Jets football game and had to pee so bad I could taste it. But waited till after the game to take a leak. Are you all proud of me?

#14 | Posted by USATrueandBlue7 at 2008-08-30 01:57 PM
depends. you a steeler or jets jets jets fan?

AND birth control and condoms - EVEN for married women.

How stupid is that?

More GOP nonsense.

Another levee construction talking point.

The levee budget that the administration cut was for construction to have been started in 2010. But I agree--so much disinformation has been put out by the libtards hoping to give Nagin and Blanco a pass, that they just look stupid by people who are actually down here. And just because a third of the National Guard was in Iraq, doesn't mean that the inept governor--now voted out, by the way--didn't have the other 2/3 available.

Quick question, then: why isn't Louisiana going for Barack? After all--they know best. Why didn't they re-elect Blanco?

LOL. Too funny. Think for yourself, for a change.

Luckily we got there with 45 minutes to spare when Dylan was born.

#17 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-08-30 02:01 PM |

and people say we have no heros!

AU--you are pathetic-

Bush cared so did Naggin and so did Blanchard--and all three levels of govt failed.

When the NG did get there--they were shot at by the populace.

NO has been getting money from the govt to make their own decisions about beefing up the levees.

No one felt it necessary--No one --all three levels of gov't could have imagined the levees failing.

Were there other people who warned this could happen? Yes. Did anyone care in New Orleans or LA for that matter? No.

AND birth control and condoms - EVEN for married women.
* * * *

Are you telling me you can't buy birth control and condoms in Alaska? Or get an abortion? Or is it just another talking point you've picked up off the web, and are regurgitating here?

I love the way the debate is already going. LOVE IT. The Dems don't know enough about her; Obama and Biden are still waiting for their focus groups to come back, and tell them what they should say. Hysterical.

Quick question, then: why isn't Louisiana going for Barack?

Because dumbasses in places like LA and AL will consistently vote against their own best interests

It's her body and her baby and she can do what she likes with both. Might call her judgement into question though.

Most airlines have restrictions on flying pregnant but Alaska Airlines has none.

I just watched McCain making the announcement. It went like this:

"....very privileged to introduce to you, the next Vice-President of the United States, Governor Sarah Palin of the great state of Alaska...."

All very routine, except that he read all of it from a script and took a quick peek down just before he said her name. This pick says more about McCain than it does about Palin.

Hilly--

You have no idea--Hubby is driving and our good friend Dar--with Paige who was just five at the time.

Paige is yelling, "Breathe Mom Breathe!!!!!"

It's hysterical now but at the time--it was urgency.

Ya, OK MURPHY

Murphy,

Was Dylan a DS baby? Had you been having false labor for a couple of months? Was Dylan premature?

I had my sons before the monthly sonograms and baby heart monitors. I also had an old fashioned doctor who believed that a child would arrive when it was time (I was in hard labor 36 hours). That being said if I had started leaking amniotic fluid with any of my children I know my doctor would have insisted I go to the hospital to be checked. I had false labor with my 2nd son, and I spent several hours in the hospital being checked each time.

I know what my daughters-in-law have gone through having my grandchildren. One of whom had a miscarraige about 9 months ago. She's now pregnant with a healthy child and due in a couple of months. Another daughter-in-law had to be bedridden for early labor until my grandaughters lungs were developed enough for her to survive. I remember the rush to get her to the hospital which is only 15 minutes away.

Your own quote of "It's hysterical now but at the time--it was urgency" says it all. Where was her urgency to be checked out by a doctor? Even a Texas doctor?

I think this is going to come back to her again and again.

GOP has really outdone themselves with this one!
Even by their bottom feeding standards.
They have a female "FOREST GUMP" for a VP!

STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES!

This will go down as biggest joke in American Politics
Way to put your Country first MR. McRove!

"They have a female "FOREST GUMP" for a VP!"

Or a female Chauncey Gardiner.

ron paul it is.

sigh.

Where was her urgency to be checked out by a doctor? Even a Texas doctor?

I think this is going to come back to her again and again.

#29 | Posted by Dragnlady at 2008-08-30 02:31 PM |

Well--we can agree on one thing--all pregnancies are different.
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She conferred with her doctor--all along the way.

She talked with her doctor. She and her husband talked with her doctor. Her doctor was consulted.

How many different ways do you want the same comment?

I thought all libs were for the woman and doctor making decisions about the womans' body, blah blah blah...

"but a lot of it makes you wonder how well anybody in the GOP vetted her."

They must have vetted her but it's the GOP and they can screw anything up. Ask 77% of America. They pick people like W, McCain, Dole, Dan Quayle, Spiro Agnew and Dick Cheney. Wait a minute, he picked himself while W was clearing brush or something. Maybe they'll get lucky this time. law of averages says they will occasionally.

I thought all libs were for the woman and doctor making decisions about the womans' body, blah blah blah...

#33 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-08-30 02:48 PM

no sir. most libruls are for the woman making decisions about her body. blah...blah...blahhh..blah

Maybe they'll get lucky this time. law of averages says they will occasionally.

#34 | Posted by BlueInBushland at 2008-08-30 03:03 PM |

Really? How many dems have won the WH in the last 28 years? Can you say one? Comical. Get ready to change your name to blueinmccainland.

I heard this rumor yesterday. The rumor also goes the daughter missed a LOT of school due to mono. Someone is going to dig those school records up soon.

By the end of the Repubs Convention, the Republicians would have America believe that, Gov. Palin would have walked 20 miles from her one room log cabin home thru the snow to get to her one room log cabin school. In Asia after a woman gives birth shes expected in the fields in the afternoon, Americans are so easily swayed, does the Repubs think this story will really get her some votes?????

When Obama and many other Democrats state that 85% of Americans believe America is heading in the wrong direction, there is an assumption that those 85% of Americans must believe that we must want a more liberal socialist type of nation. I and many others beleive America is heading in the worng direction, but the Obama direction is not where I want to this country to go. I want it to head away from the Obama/Biden/Kennedy/Gore/
Clinton - Democrat/Socialist plan - way away from it.

What you guys haved missed about this story is this---Palin risked the life of her child in large part to prevent him being born a Texan.

Now, the peculiarity of Texan pride is sometimes exaggerated but in this case I can tell you she's already lost votes for McCain down here.

That could be a problem in a State that isn't solidly Red this year.

Two other reasons for heightened concern were Palin's age, 43, and the fact that prenatal testing indicated the child had Down syndrome.

Nothing like a altitude and distance from care after your water breaks to help heighten chances of survival.

Sometimes god needs a little help sorting things out.

"Really? How many dems have won the WH in the last 28 years? Can you say one? Comical."

8 years out of 28 or 12 out of 32 is not very impressive, you're quite right about that. Look at it this way, though. Politics is cyclical and being in power too long leads to staleness and corruption. That gave and gives the Democrats an edge or are you ignoring the 2006 Congress results?

Then there's the question about the relative quality of the candidates for office. You and I are too partisan to address that question with any credibility although I have to say that even though I've always tended left of center I have voted for right wingers and that until Bush and Cheney I never had the contempt and disdain for the GOP that I do now.

Others are more objective than you and I though and I may be surprised come November but it seems to me that an honest evaluation of the relative merits of all four candidates leaves not the slightest doubt about who will and who should win.

"Get ready to change your name to blueinmccainland."

The BlueInBushland name will be gratefully discarded come January 20th whoever wins. I intend never to even think of that useless, worthless, sorry excuse for a man come that happy day.

I's the right pick just by the reaction of the left. It's fun watching all the lefty commentators shitting their pants. Even if McCain loses, this pick will show the world that the left only believes in personal choice if you are on their side.

BLUEINBUSHLAND gets to a central point. Republicans went too many years without attempting to restrain George W. Bush. They can't be rewarded for their bloodyminded lack of stewardship with another presidency.

"Left commentators shitting their pants...."

I actually woke up this morning thinking "Eagleton". From other posts I've seen, I'm not alone.

When Obama and many other Democrats state that 85% of Americans believe America is heading in the wrong direction....

Obama nor the Democrats write the polls.

Try again....

That gave and gives the Democrats an edge or are you ignoring the 2006 Congress results?

I was pointing out the irony of your post regarding who the repubs picked in the past. Yes I agree with your assesment regarding party lines. I have yet to ever vote for a dem since I cast my first vote in 1979. So anything I post should be looked at as partisan and anti left. I do try and post what I think is accurate and have been caught being lazy not checking facts. In regards to the candidates merits... Being honest I put much of my emphasis on someone who has proudly served and has shown their commitment to America first. I would rather support someone who would rather talk about what is good about America as opposed to those who would rather talk about what is bad.

This insightful analysis from Mike Allen:

"At the end of the day, McCain is still McCain. People may find him a refreshing maverick, or an erratic egotist. In either event, he marches to his own beat.

"On the upside, his team did manage to play to the medias love of drama, fanning speculation about his possible choices and maximizing coverage of the decision.

"On the potential downside, the drama was evidently entirely genuine. The fact that McCain only spoke with Palin about the vice presidency for the first time on Sunday, and that he was seriously considering Lieberman until days ago, suggests just how hectic and improvisational his process was.

"In the end, this selection gives him a chance to reclaim the mantle of a different kind of politician intent on changing Washington. He once had a legitimate claim to this: after all, he took on his own party over campaign finance reform and immigration. He jeopardized this claim in recent months by embracing ideas he once opposed (Bush tax cuts) and ideas that appeared politically motivated (gas tax holiday).

"Spontaneity, with a touch of impulsiveness, is one of the traits that attract some of McCains admirers. Whether its a good calling card for a potential president will depend on the reaction in coming days to what looks for the moment like the most daring vice presidential selection in generations"

Even if McCain loses, this pick will show the world that the left only believes in personal choice if you are on their side.

Posted by JLBEXACTO416

Which was the whole point of Roe vs Wade -

To GIVE WOMEN A CHOICE

McCain does not believe in pandering to identity politics. He was looking for someone who was well prepared to fight against international Islamic extremism, the transcendent issue of our time. And in the end he decided that in good conscience, he was not going to settle for anyone who had not been commander of a state national guard for at least a year and a half. He put down his foot!

The obvious choice was Palin, the governor of Alaska, whose guard stands as our last best defense against possible attack by the resurgent Russian menace across the Bering Strait.

McCain does not believe in pandering to identity politics. He was looking for someone who was well prepared to fight against international Islamic extremism, the transcendent issue of our time. And in the end he decided that in good conscience, he was not going to settle for anyone who had not been commander of a state national guard for at least a year and a half. He put down his foot!

The obvious choice was Palin, the governor of Alaska, whose guard stands as our last best defense against possible attack by the resurgent Russian menace across the Bering Strait.

Bud - you really need to attribute your sources when you lift direct quotes like this one. this is the thrid time i've read this one today.

"Being honest I put much of my emphasis on someone who has proudly served and has shown their commitment to America first. I would rather support someone who would rather talk about what is good about America as opposed to those who would rather talk about what is bad."

Before I get partisan again I'd like to say that this helps me understand a little better why a lot of Republicans are, well, Republicans. I do volunteer work with seniors here in Texas and the vast majority are Republicans or at least vote that way and although of course I try to change their minds I've met with little success. 2004 was hopeless, 2006 was better. Using Crispee's analysis I'll emphasize a deeds not words argument and see how that goes.

Back to partisan. I cannot for the life of me see how you associate your first point with Bush and Cheney. You should leave out the word "proudly" to improve the Bush position. There is no improving Cheney's.

Second point is more difficult to argue against because there is a lot of truth to it. That's where deeds not words applies but I agree that there have been and still are some on the left who can fairly be accused of always wanting to emphasize what is wrong with America to the exclusion of what is right. Possibly I have even less time for them than you do, I don't have any time for the Limbaughs and Hannitys either and I think we would diverge there. I don't see Obama or Biden as naysayers about America and I don't think any fairminded person would although the Limbaughs and Hannitys will never tire of saying that they are.

Back to partisan. I cannot for the life of me see how you associate your first point with Bush and Cheney. You should leave out the word "proudly" to improve the Bush position. There is no improving Cheney's.

Bush wasn't my first choice and neither was McCain in 2000. As for Cheney... I have to admit I supported him based on his record from the youngest speech writer, Chief of Staff, Minority Whip, Sec. of Defense etc. I was naive about his neocon ways but again I think the ends justify the means and accept the criticism and attacks about being partisan.

What you guys haved missed about this story is this---Palin risked the life of her child in large part to prevent him being born a Texan.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2008-08-30 03:49 PM

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Zed, that will turn out not to be a problem when it's discovered it's her daughter's baby and not hers.

It is hilarious to watch AU and tony roma and the rest of the obamanites grasp at ANYTHING to try and steal the limelight from the announcement or demean the vip candidate..

Obama fucked up.. he should have chosen hillary and this would have been a non issue. as it stands.. i see an L in the column for him in november and it has nothing to do with race.

Too much, TooMuch. Leave young daughters out of it. Who do you think you are? Limbaugh or McCain

This has got to be the most back-asswards thing I've heard in a long time. That baby's LIFE was at risk and so was hers! When I was pregnant with our second child my water broke a week before my due date. My doctor gave me *6 HOURS* to start having labor pains and then induced labor. The reason? Once the water breaks, infection can get into the uterus and the placenta, causing all kinds of life-threatening complications. I was confined to bed and then, when labor failed to start, sent directly to the hospital. I cannot THINK what that woman was doing or THOUGHT she was doing! That was just reckless behavior and as far as I am concerned, a real indicator of the kind of person she is in an emergency situation. She fails to understand all the ramifications of her actions.

And all so that baby would not be born in TEXAS??? What a great compliment to all Texans! Geesh!

"One of the first things you do when you're leaking amniotic fluid is to go get checked out, have a doctor examine you to make sure there are no problems with the baby. Fetal heart monitor, maybe even a sonogram, but those weren't done. Why?

Sounds to me like she really didn't care about this child. She only spoke to her doctor. Her actions speak louder than words to me."

Exactly, drgnlady! I have three children and each labor was different! I didn't even KNOW I was in labor with the third because I never had a labor pain, just felt nauseated every few minutes! If a woman is at ANY stage in a pregnancy and leaks amniotic fluid it IS an emergency situation! She talked to her doctor on the phone - what, there were no obstetricians in all of Texas she could have seen? Not likely! And what was her doctor suppose to do? Reach through the phone and force her to see a local doctor? Not likely! This whole episode sounds very, very odd to me and that is putting it mildly!

"Bush wasn't my first choice and neither was McCain in 2000. As for Cheney..."

As a matter of interest Crispee, who was your first choice in 2000? It's just possible I would have voted for him.

Cheney? None of us, I think, had ANY idea of what the true agenda of the Bush/Cheney clique really was. If we had then it would never have been close and the Florida fiasco would have been moot. There is no way, NO WAY, that New Hampshire, yet alone several other states, would have voted for THAT agenda and that was all it would have taken.

Fascism today comes to America not wrapped in a flag; but in a dress. AN empty dress; with 2 years of local experience; no national experience.

#46 | Posted by townncountry at 2008-08-30 04:07 PM

Maybe not a empty dress----maybe a Empty Polar Bear Parka

Sounds to me like she really didn't care about this child. She only spoke to her doctor. Her actions speak louder than words to me."
Exactly, drgnlady! I have three children and each labor was different! I didn't even KNOW I was in labor with the third because I never had a labor pain, just felt nauseated every few minutes! If a woman is at ANY stage in a pregnancy and leaks amniotic fluid it IS an emergency situation! She talked to her doctor on the phone - what, there were no obstetricians in all of Texas she could have seen? Not likely! And what was her doctor suppose to do? Reach through the phone and force her to see a local doctor? Not likely! This whole episode sounds very, very odd to me and that is putting it mildly!
~#59 DAWNGLO

and the fact that prenatal testing indicated the child had Down syndrome.

Palin Flew 12 Hours While in Labor

At least she didn't take out an American aircraft carrier like her running mate.

Palin looks like Gidget. Seriously.

Quit with the Sara "Boone" stories already! Killing me!

In labor for 12 hours on airplane,rides rain-deer,eats
moose-burgers,jogs in the freezing rain,hates brother-in-laws, hunts Caribou,wants to fire state troopers,loves oil

Be much more impressed if she would have stayed in Texas and rode giant Armadillo's, ate rattlesnake, jog in Sandstorms, wrestled Tornadoes, fired Texas Rangers,loves tobacco. Maybe could have went out with Tom Delay being that he has some ethic issues as well.

"Palin looks like Gidget. Seriously."

As a matter of interest Crispee, who was your first choice in 2000? It's just possible I would have voted for him.

Steve Forbes was my first pick. I vote for Keyes back in the 80's. I would have supported him accept for the reperations thing. Great orator though.

"Palin looks like Gidget. Seriously."

More Sally Field with glasses

I've been saying for a long time that this election has the depth of a beauty contest. With Cindy in one arm and Sarah in the other, McCain proved he knows how to pick women. Hugh Hefner, move over.

With her 'credentials' a perfect match.

Kudos Zed she did play Gidgit!

The new montra for the Far Right is that Gov. Palin really has International experience because after all Alaska is very close to Russia. Do you dumb Fuck on the right ever listen to your selves?????

I heard this on two right wing talk shows today plus one of those clowns on Fox News said the same thing. Got to give you fucks credit you get the talking points an stick with it no matter ......

The new montra for the Far Right is that Gov. Palin really has International experience because after all Alaska is very close to Russia. Do you dumb Fuck on the right ever listen to your selves?????

Northy,
Not sure what to make of this.Is she calling you a uh uh uh righty????

The obvious choice was Palin, the governor of Alaska, whose guard stands as our last best defense against possible attack by the resurgent Russian menace across the Bering Strait.

#51 | Posted by northguy3 at 2008-08-30 04:39 PM

Palin really not a bad choice for a VP.

If you went to WestPoint and graduated 894 out of 899!

I know, its OK you finised near last cause you were a POW

Sarah Palin did not advise the airline or its inflight crew she was flying so far in her pregnancy and her water had broken. If she had, she would not have been allowed to fly. What kind of judgment does someone have to fly all the way from Dallas to Seattle then to Anchorage in that kind of condition? Also, I know from talking to the crew that she was seated in the exit row from Dallas to Seattle, and when asked if she was able to be responsible and capable to open the exit and help in an emergency she said yes. I find it selfish that someone would place an entire plane in the position of possibly having a medical emergency onboard or having to make an emergency landing due to her labor. She had the baby the next day. Especially since her child was known to be somewhat high risk with Down's syndrome, wouldn't she want to be more aware of making a good decision and NOT FLY after her water broke?

If those quotes are verified one has to conclude that she is a bone-headed incompetent! Then again, so was Dan Quayle and GWB.

#46 | Posted by townncountry
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The only thing you can say about those quotes is that they were written by people with only fourth-grade English. Liberals, no doubt.

She doesn't believe in abortion. It would not be a stretch to wonder if at least subconsciously she was hoping for a 'negative outcome' to the Downs Syndrome pregnancy.

Republicans are really impressive at spinning completely meaningless stuff into attacks that reinforce whatever BS message they're trying to reinforce on a given day. You'd think they were sending out talking points that were parroted word-for-word by pliant right-wingers in the media, talk radio and blogs, or something.

--RCade

Yup. It's just the Republicans. Guess it's the lower road taken till the election, huh?

Any abortion stories while you're at it?

Yup. It's just the Republicans. Guess it's the lower road taken till the election, huh?

#78 | POSTED BY COOKFISH AT 2008-08-30 07:33 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Have you seen the stories you've posted?

Have you seen the stories you've posted?

They were windows into the soul of mankind, one and all, thank you.

Republicans are really impressive at spinning completely meaningless stuff into attacks that reinforce whatever BS message they're trying to reinforce on a given day. You'd think they were sending out talking points that were parroted word-for-word by pliant right-wingers in the media, talk radio and blogs, or something.

--RCade

No dis-respect Rcade but you have four negative threads on her.

No dis-respect Rcade but you have four negative threads on her.

That's what happens when you don't vet someone.

That's what happens when you don't vet someone.

So you think Rcade and Company know more than the RNC about her? Don't forget she was third choice in some betting lines out some time ago. I have a good feeling they ahve done their homework. It should be interesting when she exposes all that baggage Biden has been carrying around for years. Good luck finding something on her.

Yav,
You don't see the irony in psoting spinning meaningless stuff into attacks? Check out this threads headline.

Yup. It's just the Republicans. Guess it's the lower road taken till the election, huh?

#78 | Posted by cookfish

Now, that's some funny shit.

Stop trying to call her a shitty mother RCade that's fucking low. Yeah, typically after water breaking you'd want to get to a Hospital, but it doesn't mean birth is going to happen in the next few minutes. My wifes water broke a week and a half before our due date, and the hospital told us to come in but not to rush because when the water breaks before actual labor that typically means the labor is going to be a little longer then normal. Our daughter wasn't born for another 15 hours... Except for the DS the child was fine, but that had nothing to do with her actions.

From the moment she was announced as the VP candidate you liberals have been trying to call her a shitty mother because she wanted a family and a career... Low... real fucking low.

How often does Barack see his two daughters? How often will he see them as President... does that make him a shitty Father. I'm sure you'll have a reason why it doesn't.

"The only thing you can say about those quotes(#46) is that they were written by people with only fourth-grade English...#76

My favorite was:

"She supported giving 600 million dollars to a State Run Diary Farm..."

Sounds more like the kind of cheesy way that Senator Stevens would have creamed off money by milking the system on a daily basis.

Palin flew 12 hours in labor.
Bush flew 12 hours in TANG.

McSame picked Bush in a skirt to appease the talibaptists who run the GOP. That's change the right can pretend to believe in.

Hell, she already corrupted the Alaska administration to help her family, and she barely knows where the washroom is...

ROB

This was Palin's 5th child, not her first.

That means labor would be very short compared to a first birth, such as your wife had.

Palin had no idea how soon labor would begin, and once it did it wouldn't last long for a 5th child.

ROB

This was Palin's 5th child, not her first.

That means labor would be very short compared to a first birth, such as your wife had.

Palin had no idea how soon labor would begin, and once it did it wouldn't last long for a 5th child.

#90 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-08-30 08:48 PM |

Are you going to say you know more than a woman having her fifth child? Are there any limits to the gall of a lib?

That means labor would be very short compared to a first birth, such as your wife had.

Uh well AU that's not exactly true is it since she was able to continue the talk, fly for 12 hours and then still had to have labor induced.

I really didn't expect the Left to attack her as a bad mother... that's pretty shocking.

Are there any limits to the gall of a lib?

#91 | Posted by crispee_oc

It certainly wouldn't seem so in this case. She shouldn't be our VP because according to Liberal bloggers she's a shitty mother... wow

She shouldn't be our VP because according to Liberal bloggers she's a shitty mother... wow

I would bet most of them don't look like her and can understand their contempt.

Will McCain be able to simply un-nominate her ala Harriet Miers or will the GOP have to participate in some way if it happens after the convention?

Why would he un-nominate her? She has united the GOP behind McCain, and she is already viewed more favorably by Americans then Joe Biden is according to the latest Rasmussen Poll.

"Will McCain be able to simply un-nominate her ala Harriet Miers or will the GOP have to participate in some way if it happens after the convention?"

He can dump her before the convention, of course. Afterwards, the RNC would have to approve, which they would, so, no problem, other than they are screwed either way.

Here's that Rasmussen poll:

Why would he un-nominate her? She has united the GOP behind McCain,

Because the GOP has shrunk in numbers and needs major crossover. The choir won't get McCain elected. The moderate and liberal women vote just abandoned McCain.

The moderate and liberal women vote just abandoned McCain.

Don't under estimate the power of a succesful mother. This lady is no pushover and will give Biden all he can handle. Biden has a bad habit of shooting his mouth off and looking like a know it all. There is a reason he couldn't garner more than 1% in his own party.

ROB

In hindsight that all sound well and good.

But, how did she know she wouldn't go into labor? Usually when a woman's water breaks they go to the doctor, they don't call one 3000 miles away on the phone.

Her actions are under scrutiny. Blame it on McCain for being so rash and picking someone he'd talked to once for an hour 6 months before who was poorly vetted.

It may sound harsh, and only Sarah Palin knows what was really in her mind at the time, but is some "energy conference" in Texas so important for her to attend it was worth risking not only the life of her unborn baby but possibly even endanger her own life and risk leaving her four other children without a mother?

Or did she really care what would happen to her unborn baby? That is not an unrealistic or insulting question to ask of her. She's having the baby at the risky age of 43, the baby was already diagnosed as a special needs baby because of Down Syndrome, her water breaks FOUR weeks early and she doesn't even attempt to leave the energy conference and seek immediate medical care? To me, even though I'm no doctor, it showed selfishness and the height of arrogance on her part and intentional endangering of the life of her yet unborn baby in the womb.

from the article --

...As the Alaskan media reported, Palin was attending an energy conference in Texas on April 18 when her water broke four weeks before her due date. After this happened, Palin didn't head to a hospital or even leave the conference, even though the premature rupture of fetal membrances is normally a cause for an immediate examination by an obstetrician, who will observe the fetus on a monitor to guard against infection and other life-threatening complications.

Two other reasons for heightened concern were Palin's age, 43, and the fact that prenatal testing indicated the child had Down syndrome....

Crispee,

How will she look when it comes to questions of national security in the VP debates? Your party has framed it as the primo issue and she recently stated she doesn't know much about the Iraq war.

Two other reasons for heightened concern were Palin's age, 43, and the fact that prenatal testing indicated the child had Down syndrome....

So much for a womans right to choose.

The most important thing McCain, as potentially the oldest pres, needed to do in his veep pick was make sure that that person was ready to be Pres.

Can you honestly say you think Palin is?

How will she look when it comes to questions of national security in the VP debates? Your party has framed it as the primo issue and she recently stated she doesn't know much about the Iraq war.

Probably not to good. But then again McCain didn't pick her for national security experience. She will probably put it back on Biden and ask him how well the US has faired while he has been a ranking member of Foreign Affairs the last 20 years.

So now she's the candidate of change?

Gallup: Obama up by 8% for the second day in a row.

Gustav should add another couple as people are reminded that McCain and Bush were yucking it up and eating McCain's birthday cake at the moment Katrina was leveling N.O.

Can you honestly say you think Palin is?

No I don't. If something happens to McCain his advisors are in place and will instruct accordingly. But do the Dems really want to bring up experience regarding National Security and Obama?

And the guy leading was unknown while McCain is better known. He should be well ahead, right?

Gustav should add another couple as people are reminded that McCain and Bush were yucking it up and eating McCain's birthday cake at the moment Katrina was leveling N.O.

I almost wish you lived there and are riding it out.

Saturday, August 30, 2008

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday is the first to include reaction to both Barack Obamas acceptance speech and John McCains selection of Sarah Palin to be his running mate. The numbers are little changed since yesterday and show Barack Obama attracting 47% of the vote nationwide while John McCain earns 43%. When "leaners" are included, its Obama 49% and McCain 45%.

Advisers, Obama's Senate experience and proven good judgment and temperament are why he's ready for the Oval Office.

You say Palin will be OK because of them. What's good for the goose is good for the brilliant gander.

.No I don't. If something happens to McCain his advisors are in place and will instruct accordingly.

Huh, we'll just shift to an appointed committee form of government. You really are the party of change.

Look who McCain is surrounding himself with.

Phil "we're in a mental recession - America is a nation of whiners - I wrote the banking laws that brought on this mess" Gramm, lobbists. Wow, what a great staff. Even lobbying against America's interest to build fuel tankers for American military.

Uh huh.

Oh, and freshmen governors of a state that has the population of the 17th largest American city (she left Wissila $20,000,000 in debt). Who McCain had only met in person once for an hour 6 months before, and apparently not vetted.

Wow. What judgment!

If he'd picked, say Sen. Susan Collins, we wouldn't be having this conversation....

The guy's off his rocker.

.No I don't. If something happens to McCain his advisors are in place and will instruct accordingly.

Huh, we'll just shift to an appointed committee form of government. You really are the party of change.

#114 | Posted by tigerbalm at 2008-08-30 09:25 PM

Sorry I thought you wanted an honest answer. I guess I should deflect and spin from now on. I notice you had no comment on Obamas experience in a debate.

AXE

'Advisers' ran America when Reagan's mind faded. That didn't turn out so well....

I want a President who's brilliant and calls the shots in concert with his advisers, not one like W who can't even pronounce nuclear...

Funny, neither can Palin.

"Reagan's mind faded."

Disappeared is more like it.
That imbecile started at "faded."

Crtispee,

Your honest answer is we'll let advisors run the country. Not so much of a constitutionalist huh?

Do we really want to bring up national security and Obama.

Yes, we do. And will. I think we'll be talking about the Bush/McCain foreign policy doctrine quite a bit actually.

The media have already uncovered 45 problems for Palin - in 35 hours:

Americanunity,

I think the 'advisors' knew exactly what they were doing when they picked Palin. She is the perfect Evangelical Woman. This by definition means that she will bend to the will of a man. They are trained to think that way.

When McLame shuffles of the mortal coil, they will have GWB in a skirt to do their bidding, only better. They won't have to worry about her having anything resembling a spine.

Funny thing, though. The hard core bible thumpers don't believe a woman should be in ANY position of power