sure she is

the feminists are going berserk because it was HILLARys right TO BE THE FIRST WOMEN IN A POSIITION like that........and they cant stand that she actually stands up for life in the womb instead of just getting rid of that "punishment'...( obamas words)........

and the left is furious because she is a conservative and they KNOW that this country no matter what cnn or msnbc tries to tell you.......is still aimed to the right and they know that with how we have been energized and jumpstarted with this pick that they could be in trouble

and obama, in my opinion, understands that he COULD LOSE THIS ELECTION and it has the left in a real tizzy

here is the main reason for me:
At a time when we need science and technology to help us create jobs for the next century, republicans have nominated an anti science VP that thinks Flintstones is a documentary, she believes in a 6000 yr old earth and would love to kill science (teach creationism), a heavy believer in end times-- being close to the red button is a bit ridiculous. By the way, ask her how many ribs a man then a woman has. You dont need 3 guesses to know who I will vote for.

so my point is that articles like this one will be coming more and more as we get closer and all this bullshit about did she try and get her exbrother in law fired or what will be a tick on a hog.....
that means it will be shown to be nothing to worry about

she also has shown corruption in government and had them THROWN OUT and that is another worry for the left.......and HELL probably for some from the left as well

rape and incest is a joy and the child of that lovely relationship is not an emotional punishment on the mother

and again we have someone like onna who thinks that a person who believes in the bible and creationism is anti science and technology.......couldnt be further from the truth.........I havent heard the specifics yet.....does she want creationism taught along with evolution? if thats the case then I know you are all wet because they can be taught at the same time you know.

The Republician Party truly believe that the American people are dopes. The Nomination of Gov. Palin is another attempt by this corrupt group to fool us into believing that this was the most qualified person to be Vice President. A person qualified to be President of the United States. Even the most ardent Republician cannot be that stupid.....

Kind of reminds one of the Senior BUSH telling the American people that Clarence Thomas at 42 years old was the most qualified person to replace Thurgood Marshall on the Supreme Court. Thurgood Marshall was a Giant, an to replace him with an Uncle Tom, was the Republicians way to poke the eye of the American people, to replace one Black man with another, so they found the Whitest black man they could find....

Now they think that if they Nominate a woman to replace Hillary Clinton, this will give them an advantage, how insulting is that....Is Gov. more qualified than Sen. Hutchinson, Sen. Stowe I think not, they picked a cutie thinking that will get them over, what CRAP!!!!!

"...and all this bullshit about did she try and get her exbrother in law fired or what..."

So what? I know if I was governor, I have some in-laws that would be history too.

the 6000 year old earth version of creationism is a joke.

who's religious view is used when creationism is talked about in class?

when they talk about their being a higher life that might have intelligently created the universe. does it also teach that maybe there might be more intelligent life then man in the universe that is less intelligent then the creator?

creationism isn't anti science
its just NOT science.
if its taught it should be taught as a philosophy course.

"So what? I know if I was governor, I have some in-laws that would be history too."

and now your quoted

say good bye to any plans on running for higher office.

After Palin was introduced, timed to deflate Obama's surge, both Obama and Biden were smiling less --- as is they had a bad dream.

The conservatives are going gaga and the liberals are partially in denial and saying Palin will not increase the chance of McCain.

White women: those who are not rabid liberals and discovered some race vestige in the bottom of their hearts, they will abandon Obama --- sorry to say, but some race feelings will get in the mix.

Again, if Obama loses, come back eight years later. He is still young and can do with more experience before entering the White House.

Normally I don't listen to Kristol over at weekly standard... I just stopped over there today to see what the die hard conservatives were saying. Have to say his prediction of what would be said about Palin is spot on. Interesting...

"they can be taught at the same time you know"

check the Dover ruling, there are many more rulings than that!
Teaching creationism as religion is fine!
Teaching it as science is ___________________!

not in a science class, me and the courts agree on that!

After Palin was introduced, timed to deflate Obama's surge, both Obama and Biden were smiling less

You bet... And today Palin is already viewed more favorably than Biden.

Huh flop. She is the first real choice McCain has made. She is more of a constitutionalists than he. She speaks from her heart not her ass like hillary.

This country needs a reset button. Everyone thinks our country owes them something.

Go look at the welfare people with their cell phones, cable TV, expensive clothes and bling. Some weigh 400 pounds and smoke and drink and NOT WORK! Milk the system....

We have borders open and hospitals going bankrupt from all the FREE health care for illegals.

The fact is we don't owe them sh%^!

Freeloaders of America need to find somewhere else to live. Someday this train wreck of our socialist system will hit bottom and then we are all in trouble.

Palin is one of the first real people I have heard speak.

hey Rob, I clicked on your link and while there I clicked on presidential tracking poll Obama 47 McCain 43 (was tied a few days ago)

hey Rob, I clicked on your link and while there I clicked on presidential tracking poll Obama 47 McCain 43 (was tied a few days ago)

#15 | Posted by onna

So Obama's Convention bounce was to get barely out of the Margin of Error? That's not good...

BL2 wrote:
"the feminists are going berserk because it was HILLARys right TO BE THE FIRST WOMEN IN A POSIITION like that."
God-a'mighty, Ferraro was the first female VP nominee in 1984, wasn't she?

Also golden from Texas' finest Conservative band director:
"she also has shown corruption in government and had them THROWN OUT and that is another worry for the left"
yes, except for that little ethics investigation focused on her right now.

sam.............be real........she was reponsible for throwing out some real movers and shakers in alaska and even some republicans.......that HAS To make you happy, doesnt it?
and with that comes things like this.
I have listened to reports on cnn.........SO THEY HAVE TO BE CORRECT that said that she had nothing to do with that........what they are looking into is did the husband have something to do which YES I KNOW WOULD be the same thing..........

so here is the left AGAIN as alWAYS..........someone is guilty because they saw it on cnn or msnbc........BUT ONLY IF ITS A REPUBLICAN.............

and BY THE WAY>........tom delay, MY CONGRESSMAN, is about to have more charges thrown out.........
I will be sure and keep all of you updated on that BREAKING NEWS..........hee hee

the feminists are going berserk because it was HILLARys right TO BE THE FIRST WOMEN IN A POSIITION like that........and they cant stand that she actually stands up for life in the womb instead of just getting rid of that "punishment'.

Well, what a two faced stance she takes:

She is also against birth control and condoms - the two best unwanted pregnancy preventatives - EVEN for married people. How stupid and short sighted is THAT?

This will all be short lived once all the facts surrounding this hasty and irresponsible pick come out. Besides, it's not national polls that count - it's 18 swing states. McCain's gonna pretty much have to run the table, and if the GOP thinks women are just going to flock to Palin they have another thing coming.

And then there's Gustav, which will suck all the coverage of the GOP convention and remind Americans how inept the GOP administration was 3 years ago today.

except for that little ethics investigation focused on her right now.

You got to love the desperation by dems. Like she was chosen out of the blue and the repubs didn't know or care about this investigation. It is comical they think this wasn't a calculated move and McCain is worried about the outcome in Alaska.

Mccain handlers should drill this idea into voters' heads....

McCain has more experience to lead and that Obama is not running for Vice President.

McCain can use this line often when he is asked about Palin's experience: "I have more experience to lead and Obama is not running for Vice President".

(To deflect Palin's thin experience, as liberals are trying to milk this issue).

her selection makes conservatives and the religious right quite happy but brings no new voters to the table, watch the daily polls (if it confirms or not confirms this)

She is also against birth control and condoms

AU.........again a liberal not giving the WHOLE STORY. I have read that she is against schools GIVING CONDOMS to students without parental knowledge.......so to just say she is against condoms is narrow slanted and just plain wrong.

yes about gustave...........but AGAIN JUST LIKE A GOOD LIBERAL you dont say one FUCKING WORD About mayor chocolate town and the INEPT DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR............

and now we see how republicans all along the coast are going to do and SURE they have the benifits of lessons learned but our republican governor would have done better even before..

AS LONG AS IT DIDNT MESS UP HIS HAIR>>>>>>>>>>LOL

McCain can use this line often when he is asked about Palin's experience: "I have more experience to lead and Obama is not running for Vice President".

(To deflect Palin's thin experience, as liberals are trying to milk this issue).

#22 | Posted by takitez at 2008-08-30

they already have and then people like the mean and nasty baguyla and "RHODOM" gergen are telling everyone how scared they are if mccain dies.......its the only point they have made in two days of this issue and sure its a concern, but she is NOT AN INSIDE and biden could have taken a train all the way across the country every night to get home and he would still be an ENTRENCHED POLITICIANAS USUAL...
and by the way.......sARAH WAS NINE YEARS OLD WHEN biden first got his JOB FOR LIFE........

her selection makes conservatives and the religious right quite happy but brings no new voters to the table, watch the daily polls (if it confirms or not confirms this)

#23 | Posted by onna at

yeah you are right to a point but remember there are a TON of republicans who have been disasitfied with mccain for a long time and were not going to vote at all that now may have been persuaded to vote because there is a CONSERVATIVE ON THe ticket and SHE IS THE BABE AND SHE is not a DEMOCRAT

ha ha ha ha h.............I just love that shit

"...TON of republicans"
yah, I checked on new voter registration records
one example for my state

Oregon Democrats, who began the year with about 70,000 more registered voters than Republicans, have doubled that advantage, which stood Friday at 826,984 Democrats to 685,344 Republicans.

onna..........I have some news for you. I wouldnt use OREGON as an example. my brother lives there and I know a little about it,.
you could say it was a whole state of austin texas...
but it was a HELL of a good shot anyway.............all them there numbers and everythin.........lol

Like she was chosen out of the blue and the repubs didn't know or care about this investigation. It is comical they think this wasn't a calculated move and McCain is worried about the outcome in Alaska.

Again you show how little you know about your own party. Its obvious that little vetting was done on Palin. Within the first hours enough damaging information was revealed that most campaigns wouldn't have touched her with a 10-foot pole.

Have any of you thought of just how many GOP tenets her selection as VP violates? Let me count the ways.

1. John McCain keeps preaching that he puts "Country First". Can anyone keep a straight face while saying that they believe Sarah Palin is the most qualified individual of all Republicans on this day to be that "heartbeat away from the Presidency"?

2. Reports have surfaced already that both Romney and Pawlenty aides are pissed because McCain indicated to them privately his choice was limited to the two of them. That was until McCain went on TILT after Obama's acceptance speech and launched at Defcon 3. Some people will understand that analogy.

3. The GOP always touts the value of the nuclear family and the values derived from parenting roles. Palin has 5 children, 4 of which still reside in her home. One child is a special needs baby as well. If Palin is to be engaged as the VPOTUS, who is to raise her children on that intimate, personal level? I know women work all the time while juggling family duties, but isn't the GOP mantra that family should take precedence over career in general? Didn't they mock Hillary for not wanting to "bake cookies"? Small point, but relevant nonetheless to those same women who do stay at home and raise families.

4. Obama fired a shot directly across McCain's bow, challenging him to engage the debate over both judgment and temperament. Almost everyone knows of McCain's quick and volcanic temper, but what does the fact he chose Palin over all over possibilities say about his judgment? Does anyone want her representing this nation before heads of state as she appears on our tv screens today? And please, this is not a personal indictment of her or her character. She' likely a fine person with true intellect, but how do we know this? Are we just to trust McCain and his feelings? Until yesterday he had met with her (I believe) ONE TIME! Doesn't it matter that so far McCain's feelings have compelled him to back Bush 90% of the time since 2001, yet we the people disagree with that direction in a super-majority of 85%? Anyone outside of me see a disconnect here?

5. The reports are also rampant that McCain DIDN'T do the requisite vetting of Palin. How could he? He didn't decide on her until after Obama's speech Thursday night so just how comprehensive was their research? While the investigation surrounding her involvement in having lied in Alaska isn't career threatening, is this what the GOP wants the press corps reporting, along with all the other less than impressive resume points of Palin's short political career which started by being elected to the PTA in Alaska? Even her own quotes as Governor about not paying attention to nor being well-versed on her own state's National Guard being deployed to Iraq offers a glimpse into a person who seems better suited for the much smaller stages of rural Alaska than the supernova of national stoplight and intense scrutiny.

McCain's pick speaks more to his repeated examples of putting politics first moreso than what's truly objectively best for the people of this nation. And that's an argument I'm willing to have with anyone if its based on the facts, not on character judgments and character assassinations.

They say in politics that a vice president is useful or helpful on exactly three occasions- at the moment day he or she is picked, at the debate, and in the event of the president's death.

I am an Obama supporter who thinks that she has a very good chance of helping McCain win, because voters react to these surface issues and "feelings" instead of actual issues, and the voters on the right are champions of being able to do 180 flips in their arguments without even slowing down. No serious person believes that she is the most qualified out of all those on McCain's short list.

I wonder if there is a repub honest enough to admit that if she were a man, she would not have been considered for 5 seconds, and if such a person were the democrats' choice, they would be HOWLING about her thin resume and the fact that she is not a stay at home mom with young kids. Most wouldn't really believe that last part, but they'd say it anyway, and you all know it.

Gotta love your admission BLT that millions of rethugs are dissatisfied with McSame and will come flocking to a pretty creationist.

McCain's pick speaks more to his repeated examples of putting politics first moreso than what's truly objectively best for the people of this nation. And that's an argument I'm willing to have with anyone if its based on the facts, not on character judgments and character assassinations.

#29 | Posted by tonyroma at 2008-08-30 12:28 PM

So how does Joe Biden fit into the change in Washington theme? Have you even looked at their voting records as a US Senator? They are almost identical. Please tell me how this fits into change you can believe in? A career Senator who couldn't even garner 1% as a candidate for POTUS is the best he can do?

but you see.....mid........she is a conservative and that trumps all the arguments you just made.
I cant disagree with everything you said just I cant disagree with everything tony said just above that but her conservatism is what makes me a fan and an ARDENT SUPPORTER who will walk streets at the proper time in order to get her to that 'heartbeat' away

and again..........she might be a heartbeat away but what you are asking is that someone with EVEN LESS EXPERIENCE IN MANY MATTERS IS THE FUCKIN HEARTBEAT...............

Watching Mcsame watching Palin talk should worry the Righties. He was constantly fiddling with his wedding ring. Body language says he's more interested in her knockers than whether she could knock heads with Amandapajamas.

And the use of government office to deal with "enemies" is standard Nixon/Cheney GOP politics.

"I wouldnt use OREGON as an example"

OK
G.O.P. Drops in Voting Rolls in Many States!
In only three states Kentucky, Louisiana and Oklahoma did Republican registration rise while Democratic registration fell, but the Republican increase was less than a percentage point in these states. Overall Democrat registrations are almost double of Republican registrations nationwide, see you in November!

The mother of a special needs child that supports a presidential who voted against funding special education?

McCain Opposed Efforts to Increase Funding for Special Education and Education and Health Programs. McCain voted against allowing an amendment to increase funding for special education and against $7.1 billion for education and health programs. (S.Amdt. 2292 to H.R. 3010, Vote 273, 10/26/05; S.Amdt. 3048 to S.C.R. 83, Vote 58, 3/16/06)

Of course, when you're going to have a baby after being elected governor you can just hire a nanny.

Watching Mcsame watching Palin talk should worry the Righties. He was constantly fiddling with his wedding ring. Body language says he's more interested in her knockers than whether she could knock heads with Amandapajamas.

And the use of government office to deal with "enemies" is standard Nixon/Cheney GOP politics.

#34 | Posted by northguy3 at 2008

DID you see leno last night.........they had her talking at the mic and then cut to blowjob billy at the dems mouthing I LOVE YOU.........it was funny as shit...

So how does Joe Biden fit into the change in Washington theme?

It does no good to preach change unless you have someone that knows how to make it happen procedurally in Congress. Biden has been a good Democrat, as he should, but he's also been the Dem's version of the old McCain. He often bucked the party and said so openly. But the biggest part about Biden is that he isn't insecure so he's capable of admitting when he's WRONG as he did over his support on Iraq. And he also articulates precisely WHY he was wrong, showing that he learns from errors and tries not to repeat them. These are important traits and looking at Biden's lack of wealth, we know he hasn't been corrupted like so many who go to DC humble and then become flush through their connections made through the halls of Congress and K Street.

It works for me.

thats true AU

sort of like obama blasting mccain for voting with bush so much and then we realize that when mccain voted AGAINST THE energy bill that obama VOTED FOR IT...............

Change to WHAT? Obama's another fucking Zionist Marxist. Welfare and warfare. Same old shit in a new package.

come on tony.......surely you can believe that when it comes to biden.......who I cant help but like by the way.......could have changed his tune when it became politically expediant to do that?????????

he has been in the senate almost as long as sarah has been alive........THATS NOT CHANGE.........

but a working mother who has removed fraudulent republicans and oil people who has values.
NOW THATS CHANGE

It is conceivable that some people will think John McCain picked Sarah Palin to be his running mate because she is a woman. I know you find this shocking, but I swear I have heard it mentioned.

McCain does not believe in pandering to identity politics. He was looking for someone who was well prepared to fight against international Islamic extremism, the transcendent issue of our time. And in the end he decided that in good conscience, he was not going to settle for anyone who had not been commander of a state national guard for at least a year and a half. He put down his foot!

The obvious choice was Palin, the governor of Alaska, whose guard stands as our last best defense against possible attack by the resurgent Russian menace across the Bering Strait.

Also a woman, but thats totally beside the point.

We are in the 21 Century aren't we? Please tell me what will happen if roe is overturned. How will women get punished what will the crime be? Abortion is ugly, but it is a moral question. How can a government order morality? We will be turning into a Saudi Arabia, or even worse a counrty being directed by the Jeffs of the world which say "do as I say not as I do". McCain left his injured wife hanging in the wind in order to follow his erection. Attn: all you hypocrital Evangelicals was that "Family Values"? Once an adulturer always an adulturer, isn't that what you say about Bill Clinton and now John Edwards. If you so called Christian really follow Christ you would be for healing the sick helping the poor and visiting the imprisoned, and stop worrying about what happens in a private lifes of American Citiznes. "Jesus Christ is a Liberal Democrat"

Let's elect McCain/Palin and let's wave as the rest of the world, not caught up in this Biblical interpertation as policy idiocy marches right past us, laughing all the way and wondering how a nation as smart and as full of potential as the U.S. can be so fucking stupid. McCain/Palin. Because hitting rock bottom is probably our last chance at salvation.

well the governor IS the commander in chief of a state guard.......thats more than community organizers do in chicago.
and sure that may be stretching it a bit but I really believe that she is capable of being the commander in chief even if sexists liberals dont.

and with that state guard duty she has been in charge of tHOUSANDS more soldiers than hillary ever did

mccain voted AGAINST THE energy bill that obama VOTED FOR IT...............

You're an idiot BLT just like all the lemmings who keep forwarding this misleading fact without an inkling of knowledge as to why its true.

The 2005 Energy Bill had the greatest expenditure for new and renewable energy technology in the history of this nation! While it did have concessions for the oil companies as a part of the comprehensive package, it was the ONLY WAY the alternative energy package would be passed by the REPUBLICAN Congress.

Obama wasn't voting FOR Big Oil subsidies, he was voting FOR,/b> new technologies. McCain voted AGAINST new technologies by naying this bill.

Palin is likely to flop because she's on the ticket with McCain.

This contest is being waged in 18 swing states. Obama leads in all but 1. McCain would have to sweep the board to win, and he won't.

(said that just to rile up BL2 LOL )

"Jesus Christ is a Liberal Democrat"
I went back and checked his words and pronouncements and yes, you would have to classify Jesus as a liberal! No question there!

and with that state guard duty she has been in charge of tHOUSANDS more soldiers than hillary ever did

Please tell us what she's personally done while being "in charge" as you say. Does she make sure they're supplied as needed? Do the military leadership brief her on strategy and tactics being used by her troops in Iraq? Is she intimately involved in aftercare for wounded soldiers returning to Alaska? Just what is she in "charge" of?

Do you even realize her "command" is limited to using the Guard during times of state emergency and can you even sight one which she's commanded over since being elected?

You make a mockery of common sense and intelligence when you babble such idiocy without a morsel of connection to any real-world talents needed to lead this nation during a time of crisis, and believe me, if the President needs to be replaced, it IS a time of severe CRISIS!

It can't be good for Obama to debate whether or not McCain's #2 is as good as the Dems' #1. They're the same age. But while Obama's been busy organizing bus trips to the polls in South Chicago, she busied herself with running companies, running a town, then running the state. She's actually been to ANWR, and supports drilling there, along with most Americans. She knows that the internal combustion engine can't be powered with windmills, or floating oratory.

It's likely she knows the difference between a brigade and a battalion, which puts her ahead of Biden, and she has a vested interest in the success of Iraq.

And best of all, she only has to pull about 15% of Hillary voters away from Obama, and the election is over. Or she has to pull disaffected conservatives back into the fold, and the election is over.

We'll see. I wonder if Alter was right about the elections in 2000, and 2004? I might look it up, if I actually gave a damn.

tony you can unchraracteritcally call me any name you fuckin want and spin that vote all you want
mccain voted AGAINST BUSH and obama voted WITH bush and that cannot be denied or sluffed away

and as far as the guard stuff.,.......if you would look carefully I used the phrase....might be stretching it a bit but AGAIN...........the charge of inexperince is a lOSING one for the left when you look at obama
a community organizer and a senator who has DONT NOTHING isnt ready either

must go
times up and storms acoming

later

It's likely she knows the difference between a brigade and a battalion, which puts her ahead of Biden, and she has a vested interest in the success of Iraq.

RiR

Are you friggin' kidding?

Biden's been to Iraq 13 times. His son will leave for his 3rd deployment to Iraq as a Captain in the Delaware National Guard.

Unless Palin is the most naturally gifted politician since Barack Obama, she's going to look foolish and out of her depth as she faces massive media scrutiny for the first time in her life. McCain's taking an enormous risk by foisting this noob on the world as his vice president. No one who put country first would have picked her.

Biden's been to Iraq 13 times. His son will leave for his 3rd deployment to Iraq as a Captain in the Delaware National Guard.

Which is why he foolishly voted against the surge? Why he wanted to break Iraq up into three sects?

"Jesus Christ is a Liberal Democrat"
I went back and checked his words and pronouncements and yes, you would have to classify Jesus as a liberal! No question there!"

Liberal, yes. Not a progressive. Today's Republicans are yesterdays liberals and today's liberals are progressives. Progressives do not resemble liberal ideals in any way.

You're right about one thing Rcade--Obama is a most naturally gifted politician. Look at all the people he's managed to fool into thinking he's the answer to all our problems.

When the Democrats manage to nominate someone who has unquestionable depth of experience and talent to go along with bring-tears-to-Oprah's-eyes oratorical talent, then you might have the basis on which to attack others. But Obama's just another Wheaties box of talking points and platitudes--a different face on the cover, Carl Lewis instead of Mary Lou--but just another windbag who believes in nothing except his own indispensability.

He's up 4 points. Even if he managed to fool all the Democrats, he'd be up 24. He's pathetic. And it's only when up against such a person, that the choice of Palin looks so attractive. In an election of empty suits, she fills hers out better than Obama does. Substantially better. She's already ahead of Biden--no big trick, that, even HE only attracted 1% of the Democrats during the primary. Godalmighty.

No one who put country first would have picked her.

Maybe someone can explain the top three dem nominees? Think about their qualifications. No military, no City, County or State run experience. All Junior Senators. The list goes on and on. Yet Howard Dean said this was the best group of candidates the dems have ever nominated. Tough to swallow who is putting Country first.

Senators Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden are all extremely well-qualified to serve as president of the United States. I know some people contend that they would be better seasoned if they had served a few years as mayor of Alaska's fifth-largest city, but those people are out of their damn minds.

Palin and McCain are likely to flop because of the huge mess the GOP has gotten us in.

Should I mention she left Wissila $20,000,000 in debt?

mccain voted AGAINST BUSH and obama voted WITH bush and that cannot be denied or sluffed away

Since I already admitted this to be true in my own words, why the need to repeat it? If you want to ignore the reasons why they voted as they did, as you obviously do, then go ahead. But don't think everyone is so blind as you. It was a huge bill with many complex issues dealing with thousands of components. Read it yourself and see. I provided you the link right above.

Only an idiot would try and imply that ONLY ONE SINGLE ISSUE was behind the reason any person voted as they did. My contention is that McCain voted against the bill because it didn't give MORE incentives to Big Oil. Prove me wrong!

If she's only on the ticket to try to get disaffected Clinton supporters to cross over, its a bad choice. Joe Biden may already be practicing his drop-dead line for the vice-presidential debate:

I know Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is a friend of mine, and governor, you're no Hillary Clinton.--

It's one thing to discuss how unqualified Sarah Palin is. That's a national matter and huge. But on a grassroots political level, her nomination takes away the Republicans' ONLY weapon in the campaign - calling Barack Obama inexperienced. They haven't even been trying to run on the issues, or on the eight-year record of George Bush, which John McCain has supported almost 90% of the time. They've only been running on the faux-issue of Barack Obama's experience of 14 years in federal and state government.

Yes, Sarah Palin is merely running for VP, not president, but with a 72 year-old candidate with a history of serious medical issues, this is who they're saying is able to step in as president in a heart-beat. She has so little experience that she makes Sen. Obama look like FDR, Winston Churchill and Julius Caesar combined. So, the Republicans pulled the rug out from under themselves. They have no issues. The economy? Housing? The national debt? Education? The Environment? Iraq? Afghanistan? Nothing. All they have is "Dear Democratic women: please pretend our VP candidate is Hillary Clinton. Just forget that she's pro-life. And against most things Democrats stand for."

What this does in the most profound and grandiose way possible is give lie to John McCain's pompous posturing that he Always Puts America First. And that undercuts the most prominent campaign issue of his entire career, that everything he does is for reasons of honor. There is nothing honorable about making Sarah Palin your vice presidential nominee. Nothing. Unless you define honor as "blatantly pandering."

I know some people contend that they would be better seasoned if they had served a few years as mayor of Alaska's fifth-largest city, but those people are out of their damn minds.

#58 | Posted by rcade
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I know people who think they would have been better seasoned had they run the night shift at McDonald's, instead of running off to Congress, or marrying a promising Southerner. At least you would know something about meeting a payroll, paying taxes, meeting deadlines, balancing a budget, etc. That kind of stuff is far beneath the Barack Obama's and Joe Biden's of the world, though. No doubt. Their aspirations have always been much, much higher.

Keep those attacks coming. Anytime you Dems open your pieholes about small-town America, Obama's numbers move down.

Well, America elected and then reelected a failed businessman, and look where that got us

BTW Palin left Wisilla $20,000,000 in debt. A town of 8000.

You only care about lower taxes for your clients. The rest of America cares about so much more.

She has so little experience that she makes Sen. Obama look like FDR, Winston Churchill and Julius Caesar combined.
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Wow. Good thing for Obama "The Huffington Post" is so widely read, for their scathing commentary. I wonder how many Obama voters can put Winston Churchill in the right decade? Or the right country? For that matter, I wonder how many of them know the definition of the word "blatantly"?

Keep 'em coming. I realize that nothing can be allowed to stand in the way of The Anointed One, ascending to the highest terrestrial throne. Still funny, though.

The rest of America cares about so much more.

#65 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY
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Maybe. But America only has Obama up 4. Maybe America realizes, as I do, that there's more to the election than taxes. Like he's wrong about Iraq, Iran, energy, health care, the budget--and sending the Senate's two most liberal members to the White House might not be the best idea.

We'll see. In the meantime, I'm sure Obama's happy his disciples are doing so much of the heavy lifting here in this little corner of the blogosphere. Congratulations.

excerpt from a column by Mike Doogan.
Mike Doogan is a third generation Alaskan. He is 59. He was born in Fairbanks and has lived in Anchorage since 1964.

John McCain looked all over the United States to find the single Republican who is qualified to be, as the saying goes, a heartbeat away from the presidency, and he came up with Sarah Palin.
Really?
Sure, I suppose that many Alaskans are feeling a surge of pride that someone from our state has gotten a spot on the big stage. And most Alaskans like Palin. I know I do.

But let's be honest here. Her resume is as thin as the meat in a vending machine sandwich. I'm thinking being mayor of Wasilla doesn't qualify her. And she's less than two years into her first term as governor. Except for her high-profile gas pipeline legislation -- which I like a lot -- she doesn't have much to show. Oil taxes? Most of that work was done by the legislature. Ethics? Ditto. And her role in killing the much-touted Bridge to Nowhere? Talk about coming in after the battle is over and bayoneting the wounded.

And there's a growing sense that the government isn't running all that well, that all that's keeping the wheels from coming off is that 25,000 state employees show up for work every day.

The long and short of it is this: We're not sure she's a competent governor of Alaska. And yet McCain, who is no spring chicken, has decided she's the best choice to replace him as president if he should win and then fall afoul of the Grim Reaper.

good one - 25,000 state employees

Maybe. But America only has Obama up 4

Rasumssen consistently underpolls by at least 2%

Of course you completely ignored today's Gallup Poll which showed Obama maintaining an 8% lead:

Gallup Daily: Obama continues to lead by 8%

"--and sending the Senate's two most liberal members to the White House might not be the best idea."

Blasphemy! The Obamessiah can do no wrong! You must overlook the fact that he is a lawyer/politician and a socialist. I must admit, however, that having two lawyer/politicians, one of them a socialist (not sure about the other,) at the helm gives me a little heartburn. I guess I'll have to vote for the non-lawyer pilot and the non-lawyer moose hunter. They'll surely do less harm.

RIR...

Would you pass that whacky around so the rest of us can have some? Obama moved up 10 points this week in Gallup BEFORE his speech. http:// www.realclearpolitics.com/ epolls/2008/president/us/ general_election_mccain_vs_oba ma-225.html

And I guess you haven't seen this little buzzkill either, have you:

Surprise? First National Poll Finds Palin Gains LESS Support from Women

From Tony's link:

NEW YORK The first national poll on John McCain's pick of Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mater yesterday came out today from Rasmussen Reports -- and contrary to what the GOP probably hoped, she scored less well with women than men.

Some 38% of men said they were more likely to vote for McCain now, but only 32% of women.

By a narrow 41% to 35% margin, men said she was not ready to be president -- but women soundly rejected her in those grounds, 48% to 25%.

Only 9% of Obama supporters said they might be more likely to vote for McCain.

Overall, voters expressed a favorable first impression of her by a 53/26 margin, but there was a severe gender gap on this: Men embraced her at 58% to 23%, while for women it was 48/30.

I see. So 38% of men, and 32% of women are MORE LIKELY TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN NOW, including 9% of Obama voters! On the FIRST DAY!! And that's supposed to be BAD for McCain?

ROTFLMAO. Desperation. It's all slipping away. A tiny four-point lead despite a massive advantage in fundraising, an enormous ground operation, the most expensive movie-set-stadium-size-
convention speech, up against a 72-year-old man that doesn't even have the support of many conservatives. Four points. With the Republican convention yet to start.

I know people who think they would have been better seasoned had they run the night shift at McDonald's, instead of running off to Congress, or marrying a promising Southerner. At least you would know something about meeting a payroll, paying taxes, meeting deadlines, balancing a budget, etc. That kind of stuff is far beneath the Barack Obama's and Joe Biden's of the world, though.

Before you sneer any more at the expertise of senators, RightIsRight, you might want to look up John McCain in Wikipedia.

Even neocon Charles Krauthammer thinks this is stupid!

"The McCain campaign is reveling in the fact that Palin is a game changer. But why a game changer when youve been gaining? To gratuitously undercut the remarkably successful "Is he ready to lead" line of attack seems near suicidal."

"The expertise of Senators" is exactly why I don't like McCain, and why legislators don't win elections to the White House. JFK was the only exception this rule in the past--what? 150 years?--so this election will be yet another reason to regret our choices. Neither candidate has any experience running anything more than a small staff of secretaries and poseurs.

Hahahahaha. She couldn't even run Wasilla AKA Cicely, Alaska

"Sarah Palin left the finances of her town Wasilla in tatters when she moved on in 2002 (h/t xgz). She wanted a legacy as mayor, it seems, and pushed hard for the town to build a hyper-expensive sports complex. But Palin screwed the process up badly. Instead of buying the land for the complex when it was offered, her administration allowed a developer named Gary Lundgren to snap it up. Then Wasilla tried to seize the land from Lundgren through eminent domain. In the end, what with court costs Wasilla paid at least $ 1.7 million for land it could have bought for less than one tenth that sum - if the purchase had been handled properly. For this incompetence, Wasilla is still paying a steep price: higher taxes and cutbacks in services. In other words Palin is about as efficient as Michael Brown, onetime head of FEMA.

RiR

EIGHT point lead. EIGHT point lead.

And this against a well known national figure like McCain.

Keep dreaming. But, I think your clients will just have to do with a tad less wealth.

Gallup Daily: Obama Continues to Lead 49% to 41%

PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama maintains an eight percentage point lead over John McCain when registered voters nationwide are asked whom they would vote for in the presidential election if it were held today, according to the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking figures.

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She left Wisilla $20,000,000 in debt. GOP 'fiscal conservatism' at it's best.

Sound familiar? LOL

BL2,

That creationism charge against Palin is a smokescreen to try to scare people.
FACT: She NEVER said she wanted creationism taught in schools, contrary to what ultra lefty Jonnieboy Alter said.
FACT: She DID say that it was a proper discussion point in science classes to discuss the alternative since there are people who do believe in it.
FACT: She SPECIFICALLY stated that she would not want creationism added to the CURRICULUM of public schools.

Myself, I am a true believer in science and don't believe man and dinosaurs were on the earth at the same time (except if it is ultimately proven that some dinosaurs evolved into today's birds) or anywhere within 2-300 million years of each other.
I also don't accept that the earth was created in seven days no matter how you interpret the length of those seven days.

I also believe in evolution and know that man did not descend from APES, as those who attack Charles Darwin contend he has said. Of course, he NEVER said that man descended from APES. Perhaps it would have been better if we had, since maybe we would have turned out better than we did. But then again we still are evolving and maybe we will ultimately get it right. I also don't believe we were created in God's image, since that would be an insult to God, if there is one.

But I do believe that it is valid and right to study other creation theories since by doing so you will learn why they don't stand up to any logical examination.

Sarah Palin says this is what she would like to see but ultra left wingers don't want to have anything but what THEY believe in studied.

We all know how many times THEY have been right, don't we?

They don't believe in science since true science looks at EVERY possibility to explain any phenomenon, no matter how remote.

Once again, I don't believe in creationism but I'm not afraid of it being discussed in school since it teaches kids that there is more than one way to view anything.

If Sarah actually DID do the things that this Alter clown said, I would be absolutely against her but I didn't find anything in his article that was true. He couldn't even get the population of the town she was mayor of correct. How sloppy can a "reporter" or "commentator" be. That is why I don't read Newsweek. Its title should be Newsweak.

I'll make a lot more money under an Obama presidency, than under a McCain administration. Your concern is touching, though. You've even got the Obamonomics class warfare rhetoric down. Good for you.

Palin is going to end up being an anchor. The strongest message of the Dem convention is that Jowls is more of the same. The fact that Jowls is trying to paint her as some reformer or agent of change is ludicrous. She is Cheney's wet dream come true. And once her "accomplishments" are scrutinized a bit the right is going to go into a loooong state of depression.

No one tells me how to speak. Never have.

I'm just a man who knows what's going on and will acknowledge it.

The GOP has been horrible. Time for them to go....

Rasmussen and SurveyUSA are just more effective and accurate than Gallup. Sorry. That's why the political pollsters prefer Rasmussen, whereas the consumer pollsters like Gallup. MOE is about half; the responses are better culled for likely voters versus registered ones--they're just better.

If Gallup helps you feel better though, go ahead. Feelings are important.

RiR

Spin Spin Spin

No matter how you spin it an "empty suit' (as the right is fond of calling Obama) is beating a nationally known figure.

Not everyone in the GOP is insane. Many are going to recoil at the story of her both continuing a scheduled speech and then flying after her water broke, potentially endangering both her and her child. They will question her emerging problems in Alaska and her connection to its dysfunctional government. They will see she has little intellectual heft going up against two men who worked their way through higher education as achievers who later rubbed shoulders with many of this planet's leaders, both political and cultural. They will tire of trying to explain just why McCain's snap-judgment was an example of "putting nation first" when even a person with no nose can smell the sheer political desperation involved in tapping her from obscurity at a time when all acknowledge the circumstances are dire. We're at war and threatening more, the economy teeters, energy problems explode, workers struggle, and McCain deems her the most ready to tackle these issues at a moment's notice? Not Hutchinson, not Dole, not Whittman-Todd, not Fiorina, not Rice? WTF?????

Romney and Pawlenty won't stay quite forever, because McCain used their names for publicity sake, then threw them overboard at the 11th hour. Wanna see their ringing endorsements of Palin next week during the convention? Seen Joe Lieberman in the last 36 hours? Think he's going to declare Palin more qualified than Joe Biden for taking over the Presidency at a moment's notice? Think Traitor Joe is looking to be institutionalized if he does make such an idiotic claim?

Here's the bottom line: While McCain might be willing to place his entire political career on the line by placing his blind trust in Palin, just how many other GOPers are going to fall in line when the tragedy of her pick is merely hours from being exposed? They, unlike McCain, have far too much to lose, namely everything. John will just retire to one of his 12 houses while calling his wife demeaning epithets.

What happens to the pollster comparisons if we switch to the spread method? Both of the automated pollsters still beat Gallup. Head to head, SurveyUSA missed the spreads by an average of 2.3 points; Gallup missed by an average of 5.4. Rasmussen cleaned Gallup's clock, missing the spreads by an average of 1.6 points compared to Gallup's 6.2.
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And so on. This is why Rasmussen is able to charge so much, even for only being able to VIEW the results. They're the best in the biz.

The abject desperation the selection of Palin represents is staggering. I am stunned (and as a Democrat elated.) I expect to see all but the most partisan rightwingers begin to serious question the wisdom of this choice within four weeks. Currently most of us are just trying to figure out what in hell McCain was thinking when he made this choice.
As I said on another thread, Quayle must be dancing. He is no longer the least qualified running mate in the history of presidential elections.

TONY

And then there's Gustav coming to remind America how inept the Bush administration is.

Pics of partying Republicans followed by or preceded by pictures of devastation because of Gustav will be a nice pair of twins. How appropriate.

Dobson prayed for Obama's event to be rained out. Be careful what you pray for, eh?

God really does have a sense of humor!!

There is a difference between Liberal and Liberator.

Jesus is the Liberator!

That's why I see myself as a liberated conservative.

He is no longer the least qualified running mate in the history of presidential elections.

#92 | Posted by moder8
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He never was. That was a tie between Ferraro and Eagleton. Who lost, by the way.

Quayle must be dancing. He is no longer the least qualified running mate in the history of presidential elections.

#92 | Posted by moder8

LMAO !!

'Mr. Potatoe' replaced by "Mrs. Bear".

They don't believe in science since true science looks at EVERY possibility to explain any phenomenon, no matter how remote.

TheShyGuy

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No Shyguy, true science does NOT look at every possibility. Science starts with an OBSERVATION in the physical world. Then a hypothesis is formed about why that observation occured. Then predictions are made that would support the hypothesis. Then tests are done to see if the predictions are correct. The data now becomes part of the observation and you repeat the process over and over and over. Eventually, after many, many iterations you have a theory.

LMAO !!

'Mr. Potatoe' replaced by "Mrs. Bear".

#97 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-08-30 03:03 PM

You should be laughing. What fool laughs at people ten times smarter and more succesful than themselves? Other than libs here of course.

CrispeeOC you keep drinking that KoolAid. Makes the rest of us that much more certain of the impending Obama landslide.

CrispeeOC you keep drinking that KoolAid. Makes the rest of us that much more certain of the impending Obama landslide.

What Kool-Aid is that Moder? Pointing out clowns like AU?

Not everyone in the GOP is insane....We're at war and threatening more, the economy teeters, energy problems explode, workers struggle, and McCain deems Palin the most ready to tackle these issues at a moment's notice? Not Hutchinson, not Dole, not Whittman-Todd, not Fiorina, not Rice? WTF?????

Well, I guess Crispee doesn't fall in to that first category, does he?

Crispee, I'm going to remind you in the future just how blind you are to the objective truth. Palin is bad on so many levels and she's the antithesis of McCain's chief political message, namely experience matters. If he picks Palin, then why wouldn't people choose Obama since McCain doesn't believe in his own metric in practice? The pick makes no sense and it has nothing to do with the talents or qualities Palin possesses. McCain cut the legs off the GOP argument against Obama, and comparing what America knows about the two, just how is Palin going to compete with what we saw 2 nights ago?

Wait a sec, libbies....

This is GREAT NEWS!!!! What are we thinking.

You righties are dead on, McCain/Palin '08 is da BOMB!

Its gonna blow your party to smithereens right in the middle of your oblivious cheerleading....

I wonder if there is a website or a bookmaker dedicated to calculating the odds of Palin actually remaining the VP candidate through Election Day. I'm not a handicapper, but I would like to handicap this one. You have to figure that she has all the will she can muster to hang in there. She won't back down easily. But she simply isn't qualified to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Her only asset is her ideology. Not her smarts or knowledge of the world. Just as No one expected War hero William Henry Harrison not to croak as soon as he took office, no one expects McCain to pass on. But it could happen, and then what -- We get President Sara Born-Again Ideologue from the oil fields of Alaska as POTUS. Oh, great. And let's bet that Dick Cheney won't be on her staff advising her all the way, right??? Ol' Mr. Halliburton will probably set himself on some million a year contract to advise Ms. Palin.

In the long run, I suspect with 2 to 1 odds that Palin will drop out of consideration before Election Day. Just a hunch.

Its gonna blow your party to smithereens right in the middle of your oblivious cheerleading....

#103 | Posted by tonyroma

And so will pics on TV of partying Republicans as tragedy strikes the Gulf

from the article --

"What is it exactly that the vice president does all day?" Palin offhandedly asked CNBC anchor Larry Kudlow in July. Kudlow explained that the job has become more important in recent years.

Crispee, I'm going to remind you in the future just how blind you are to the objective truth. Palin is bad on so many levels and she's the antithesis of McCain's chief political message, namely experience matters. If he picks Palin, then why wouldn't people choose Obama since McCain doesn't believe in his own metric in practice?

It is almost laughable you can sit there and post this as though Obama doesn't have the same problem. It is almost as funny as you spewing objective truth.