Interesting note on Newsweek's Stumper.

Conclusion: There is no way Obama will choose Hillary Clinton as his running mate.
Line of Reasoning: A scheduling conflict. As the Democratic Party announced Sunday, Clinton--"a champion for working families and one of the most effective and empathetic voices in the country today," according to the DNC--will be the "headline prime-time speaker on Tuesday, August 26th." The following night's "headline prime-time speaker"? "Barack Obamas Vice Presidential nominee." The laws of time and space would suggest that the Dems are referring to two different people.
Credibility Rating (out of 10): A perfect 10. It's long been hard to believe that Obama would overcome his personal doubts about the Clintons and pick Hillary as his veep. Now he's asked her to speak on a night explicitly not reserved for the No. 2. In other words, the dream is over.

Now she's just one step away from her destiny as president! You fools! Bwahahahahaahahohohuhcuogh..co ugh...hach..ha..wheeze..haha!

--Corky

Nice, Cookie! You do imitations for living?

I hope you are ready for all the paranoid pants wetting this thread will cause.

Then again, had her name not been placed into nomination, it would be the first time since 1964, and that was because Johnson ran unopposed.

Now she's just one step away from her destiny as president! You fools! Bwahahahahaahahohohuhcuogh..co ugh...hach..ha..wheeze..haha!

--Corky

Posted by cookfish

FF

Corky, I know that I just picked your name outta the blue like that, but I couldn't help it, and yes, it was unfair. You're one of the few people on this site that truly understand the vipers in the Obama camp, because you experienced their venom when you dared to take a different position and back some one else. I personally hope that Obama gets embarrasssed by the Hillabots at the convention, though I'm not sure what your position is on this. You gotta admit there's some scary people in Bammyworld, though.

Corky sings his campaign song for Hillary;

I'm polishing a turd its true
To make it look good for me and you
She's dried up and neurotic
her husband is psychotic
What more can an ignorant fool do?

Minced Pieces

It would be embarrassing for Obama had Clinton really pursued the nomination into the convention like Ted Kennedy did, but since she has backed way off and shown great support for him, it's really just a curiosity now.

I prefer Obama's policies over McCain's, mainly because I prefer the Dem platform from 1972 over the Repub platform from the Industrial Revolution.

Obama is a sufficient flag bearer for Dem policies, despite his forked tongue, but it's not like he has ever proposed any original policies unique to himself.

As a longtime Lib, I'm not immune to what I consider the historic leap forward of having a minority President. I just failed to be persuaded by Obama that he was any different than any other consummately cynical opportunist/politician.

His ability to attack Hillary from the get-go while claiming innocence was at once amazing and disturbing.

Idiots!

The GOP nomination sheet will read:
For President:
1) John McCain
2) Please God, somebody else!
3) In the name of all that is Holy, ANYBODY!

Obama would bring down the house if after he let's the dem convention count hill's nominations...he names her as VP!!!!

An African-American AND a woman-American rounds it out very nicely.

All diverse, all caring and all inclusive.
All Obama!

Be Well.

That should be an interesting convention. It will open some old wounds.

All you who still have your hopes up for Hillary (who, btw, was not a bad choice for President) can forget it if they are still praying Hillary might have a small chance of being the Dems' presidential nomination pick.

The main thing to remember is Hillary is not the keynote speaker at the Dem convention. I think if there were plans for Hillary to be VP or by some remote chance to enough nomination votes she would have been given the keynote speaker slot at the convention.

from the article -

Clinton's name will be placed into nomination at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, a move intended to recognize her status as the first woman to compete in every presidential primary.

Hillary does deserve that recognition whether you like her or not. She ran a hell of a campaign and did make history as the first woman presidential candidate who ran in all the primaries -- and WON many of them. The Dems better hope that in the general election Obama will carry -- and win -- all of the primary states Hillary did.

BuffaloBob done a very good analysis (on a number of threads) on the way our primary elections are set up (he said it needs change and I agree with him). He also made a valid argument on the subject of comparing Hillary's primary state wins to Obama's chances on winning those same states' electoral votes in the general election. As BBob stated, winning the electorals is where it could get real dicey for Obama and Hilllary winning the primary in a particular state does not guarantee a win in that same state for Obama come November.

Should be interesting...

GREAT............... Hillary ROCKS

........ambition without shame......Hillary has lost her mind........

2012

Some have suggested that this shows how weak Obama is. He is in control, yet he caves to the Clintons. Any thoughts?

A "symbolic" effort to recognise the Historical importance of Hillary's run fer POTUS?

If that's all it is, then it's a good thing.

It WAS a good run.

If she can use that moment along with her prime time speech in order to heal divisions in the Dem party then she's a star.

G08ama.

Be Well.

Clinton's name will be placed into nomination at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, a move intended to recognize her status as the first woman to compete in every presidential primary.

indeed! it's a good thing!

now will SHE do the HONORABLE thing?

"Some have suggested that this shows how weak Obama is. He is in control, yet he caves to the Clintons. Any thoughts?"

He barely won the primary, even though her strategy was horrible. The Clintons have been a Democratic fixture since 1994. He really has to include her, whether he wants to or not. If he were to exclude her, he would be be seen as being vengeful, angry, etc.

It is interesting that neither Presidential candidate really has the full support of their respective parties. It appears that many Dems can't bring themselves to support Barack while many Reps disdain McCaine because of his voting record.

The general election may be decided by who stays home, rather than who votes. I can not remember this ever happening in my lifetime.

Sorry to pontifacate, but you asked for my thoughts.

throw the dog a bone

look for repubs to stay home in droves. like pissed off sheep

Martinx, I would agree. I also believe that the pols are skewed by people who will not vote for Obama, but say they will because they do not want to be percieved as racist. That may be the "November Surprise".

In one sense this is kind of like the NFL with all their parity. No one team can dominate. While there are no *great* teams, it makes for an interesting season.

Perhaps this will mollify some of the angry Hilary supporters but actually I doubt it. It will not do any great good or harm but it will make the convention watchable.

Recreate 68 has some fodder now.

It would be good if Obama could pick a VP that would bring 18 million votes his way. He needs them. The race is tightening up and Obama seems to be way behind Kerry in 2004.

This is turning into the Clinton Convention.

Hillary and her daughter on Tuesday and Bill on Wednesday.

This is how conventions work. She had to be named into the nomination.

Did Obama cave in? Yes--but he really had no choice. If he had realized the history of conventions--he would have offered it up first as his idea.

Another flip flop..

Really the nomination of the VP isn't up to the candidate, the VP nominee has to be voted on by the delegates just like the President. They could end up nominating her even if Obama didn't pick her.
I don't think they would ignore the presidential candidate's choice but I'm just saying....

"Another flip flop..."

If you actually believe that, you don't know the definition of the phrase. You have to actively come out on one side of an issue first, and then, favor the other side.

In a classic example, McCain was against the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest before he was for tax cuts for the wealthiest.

I have no problem with this---it is a symbolic changing of the guard. Out with the old, in with the new.

Dan--you missed the joke--but since you provided the definition...

Obama said he did not want or think it necessary to have Hillary's name in the nomination process of the convention.

Then when it became obvious-- he changed his mind--if only to go along with the process.

We can probably agree that both candidates flip flop, change their minds, whatever...

"Obama said he did not want or think it necessary to have Hillary's name in the nomination process of the convention.
Then when it became obvious-- he changed his mind--if only to go along with the process"

Again, you seemingly don't know the definition. Obama could still not want or think it necessary, despite still going along with it for the sake of party unity. That's not a flip-flop.

Now, Obama's stance on telecom immunity...that's a flip-flop.

I have a sinking feeling that Hillary will try to take the nomination away from Obama. She will whip her supporters into a frenzy and they will demand that she win. Her supporters were very angry at losing, but if she beats out Obama at the convention, you will really see mad.
I have been a lifelong Democrat voting in every election since I became of age. I am 78 and will not vote for her if she takes it away from Obama. I think we have much to fear from this arrogant demanding Bush-like character. I was for her at first but the longer she stayed in the race when it was obvious that she lost, the angrier I became.
I really believe that her and her supporters have big plans to take over the convention and the party.