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The wife of renowned evangelical pastor Joel Osteen is fighting a lawsuit that accuses her of shoving a Continental Airlines flight attendant against a bathroom door and elbowing the woman in the chest during an outburst over a stained seat.

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Reminds me of Robert Schuller...only meaner.

"Punitive damages amounting to ten percent of Osteen's net worth...."

Maybe I can be assaulted one day.

The photo of the two of them somehow reminds me of Annette Bening and Peter Gallagher in "American Beauty".

Buddy Kane: [Carolyn is having sex in a motel room with the Real Estate King] Do you like getting nailed by the King?
Carolyn Burnham: Yes, your majesty!

"Brown says she suffers from anxiety and hemarhoids over the incident...."

I know many persons who go through more than that lady did on a daily basis. Why is she entitled to wealth because she has discomfort passing waste?

Mrs Osteen is pissed that they don't have their own plane yet?

The photo of the two of them somehow reminds me of Annette Bening and Peter Gallagher in "American Beauty".

Good movie, Blue.

Joel Osteen must be a very strong man indeed! You'd have to be to keep a toxic smile like that pasted on your face 24/7!!!

According to an FAA report, Victoria Osteen pushed and elbowed Brown in an attempt to get to the plane's cockpit after two other attendants had not cleaned a liquid on her armrest.

Since she wasn't trying to put a bumper sticker on anything, I guess the TSA and a body cavity search weren't needed.

Ir've been to Joel Osteen's church. He's an amazing preacher and always has an easy to understand, uplifting message. I don't hold him resposible for everything his wife does.

" I don't hold him resposible for everything his wife does."

What a partisan hack.

"Here is a place you can move to if you hate America as much as Obama and his wife do. "

"(Obama) goes to Europe and bad mouths the USA and his wife says that she is ashamed of America."

Hypocrisy, thy name is FWThom.

I'm sure she did it for Jesus.

Sounds like Mrs Osteen has a bit of growing up to do. Perhaps she is in need of a "time out" in the corner?

Ir've been to Joel Osteen's church.

I am not surprised.

The "Prosperity Gospel" in all it's true glory.

I wonder, If the church lady inflated her tires properly would the law suit amount decrease?

Classic money grab! C'mon 10% of their net worth! LOL!


Ir've been to Joel Osteen's church. He's an amazing preacher and always has an easy to understand, uplifting message. I don't hold him resposible for everything his wife does.

Posted by fwthom at 2008-08-07 09:37 PM


Now there's a ringing endorsement for religion. Spend eternity with people like fwthom. No thanks.


Classic money grab! C'mon 10% of their net worth! LOL!

Posted by Unclesam at 2008-08-07 10:09 PM


Not a problem. They can always scam more old people out of their money.

Now there's a ringing endorsement for religion. Spend eternity with people like fwthom. No thanks.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob

lol

WEWJHU?

Which Elbow Would Jesus Have Used?

Ir've been to Joel Osteen's church. He's an amazing preacher and always has an easy to understand, uplifting message. I don't hold him resposible for everything his wife does.

Posted by fwthom at 2008-08-07 09:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Joels Church?

It says she's also co-pastor as this place.

I wonder, If the church lady inflated her tires properly would the law suit amount decrease?

Posted by TheOneBS at 2008-08-07 09:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

I want to nominate this post as the 'dumbest of the day'.

Because she's already been fined by the FAA, is why. This is just a civil suit, she's been found criminally guilty. Reading is fundamental.

Why would any of you assume this is true especially when the plaintiff is trying to get a bunch of money from them?

Because its like a sermon? "yada yada yada you're bad, give me money"

.. what part of "Sit down and shut the fuck up when you're on an airplane" can't people understand? She's very lucky they didn't decide to check her for hidden weapons, because they sure could have. This lady actually attempted to rush the cabin. They take that stuff VERY seriously.. and bravo for doing so.

She won't win. A criminal conviction almost always assures that the civil penalties will apply as well. She should be a good girl and pay her penance for what she did.

She's very lucky they didn't decide to check her for hidden weapons, because they sure could have. This lady actually attempted to rush the cabin.

Posted by soheifox

Yea, good thing she's a rich white Christian, they're pretty low on the cavity search list.

"Ir've been to Joel Osteen's church."

Well, that explains a lot.

Yea, good thing she's a rich white Christian, they're pretty low on the cavity search list.

Posted by TFDNihilist

You ever seen their cavities? Whew. No one wants to search them.

This woman represents billions of Christians worldwide because her behavior justifies my personal prejudices.

next sundays sermon;

Joel; Now, brothers and sisters, the good lord has blessed us. He has provided for us. We are important to him.

Just last night I had a vision. Jesus cam down and told me that he didn't want us flying coach anymore. And he said that stewardess was wrong for hitting my wife in the elbow with her titty.

So I stand before you today, humble and with much appreciation if we could just buy this church a private plane.

There is no doubt in my mind that Osteen's wife did exactly what the flight attendant said she did. Accordingly, she was fined by the FAA for her actions.

However, I also agree this is a money grab. The flight attendant is suing her for "loss of faith?" If her faith was so weak that the actions of one spoiled woman could shake it; sounds like she didn't have much faith to lose (therefore how could it be worth very much).

That is usually the issue with these "super churches", it has much less to do with worshiping God and much more to do with worshiping the rock star Pastor.

This woman represents billions of Christians worldwide because her behavior justifies my personal prejudices.

Posted by sully

I just looked over all the posts here and I don't see anyone saying anything like that. All the comments are specifically aimed. The only one I find that shows a generalized prejuduce is this one...

I guess you hatred of everyone and everything Christian has a lot to do with it.

Posted by dirtbagobama

So it seems to me that it's the pro-Christians that you should be deriding.

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You ever seen their cavities? Whew. No one wants to search them.

Posted by Lipzoidial

I dunno, she's kinda hot, looks like she might have a few cavities I might want to probe.


Classic money grab! C'mon 10% of their net worth! LOL!

Posted by Unclesam at 2008-08-07 10:09 PM | Reply

Actually, Joel Osteen should be happy with the offer. According to Joel, if you give your money away (to him, usually) God will reward you tenfold. Joel ought to pay up and watch God return the filthy lucre, with heavenly interest, to him in wheel barrows.

TFDN - you must have missed the text for this article - let me repeat it:

"Not very Christian. What is it with you people?"

YOU PEOPLE - Sounds like a generalization to me! Also, BBob's statement ("Now there's a ringing endorsement for religion") and NG3's statement ("Because its like a sermon? 'yada yada yada you're bad, give me money'") could also be construed to show generalized prejudice. C'mon, it's no secret that these fellas and several others are well known religious bashers! If any thread that shows religion (and Christianity specifically) in a bad light is posted, you can bet that these guys will be here, bashing away.

C'mon, it's no secret that these fellas and several others are well known religious bashers! If any thread that shows religion (and Christianity specifically) in a bad light is posted, you can bet that these guys will be here, bashing away.


Posted by bartimus


I'll fess up. I am a religion basher. And I can explain why. When I was a child, I thought as a child, but when I became a man I put away childish things.

I am so severly pissed at religion for what they have done to the greatest set of moralistic writings ever captured on papyrus.

Jesus was one cool motherfucker if you read his writings separate from religion (and you need to read the other books written by other men too - especially the ones that churches decided didn't bode well for their purpose - which is to scare the hell out of the perishioners and get their money).

Religion has killed and raped and plundered for centuries and the torture continues to this day, only now, it has become a business and a social government and it should be about personal enlightenment. I can fit every enlightned christian I have ever met in my desk drawer.

Time to lance this boil off the ass of our world once and for all.

Time for the new enlightenment.

Nice to see that you loony libs have convcted this lady just because she is religious. Amazing....

Ret, I doubt that. The article says Ms. Osteen was found criminally liable and fined; therefore, she's probably civilly guilty as well. As to the amount she's being sued for, I also doubt she'll have to pay even close to that. I'm surprised that the Osteens haven't tried to settle out of court - better to avoid all the negative press and lose a mil or 2 than have the press and potentially lose more!


Nice to see that you loony libs have convcted this lady just because she is religious. Amazing....

Posted by retnluvnit

No, what pisses me off, is that if she had been poor, black and worse of all, fat or atheistic, no one would care about the fact that she would currently be rotting in jail somewhere.

But since everyone in america knows that jesus was the only caucasian ever born to non-caucasian parents, then all white religious people are not to be questioned, ever, for any reason.

"Jesus was one cool motherfucker if you read his writings"

Posted by Lipzoidial

Which book did Jesus write?

Turning Water in to Wine for drunks and Dummies

"I know many persons who go through more than that lady did on a daily basis. Why is she entitled to wealth because she has discomfort passing waste?"

First of all, the claim itself seems a bit of stretch to me.

But for the sake of arguement, let's say the assault did result in the victim not being able to poo without pain.... Your defense would that since other people in the world suffer more, the victim has no claim? So if I cut off someone's arms and he sues me, I can show up to court with a picture of someone who doesn't have any arms OR legs and say "See this, what is this baby complaining about?"

Lip, thanks for at least being honest. Question for you: With the whole PC movement going forward the past decade or so, why is it still "PC" to make fun of religous people? The only other group that gets made fun of like that are fate people.

I ask not to be snarky but because I've never understood any of the "explanations" I've heard so far.

As for religion as a business or social gov't, I think we've found some common ground. As a religious person, I feel your beliefs are between you and God. No amount of $$$ sent to the TV Evangelist will save me or anyone else in the end.

fate people? I meant FAT...


Lip, thanks for at least being honest. Question for you: With the whole PC movement going forward the past decade or so, why is it still "PC" to make fun of religous people? The only other group that gets made fun of like that are fat people.

Posted by bartimus


Well, let's dissect it.

Fat people, by most peoples estimation (not the fat persons estimation, to be sure), are fat and it is preventable and has no upside. therefore, open game. Arguing in favor of fatness is kinda like trying to argue against executing a mass murderer.

If you don't buy into the basic premise of a spiritual world and creationism, then no religion is going to provide any meaning to you. So you could say religion, to non-religious people, is evil, mis-leading and 'preventable'. And what's worse is that they are 'in-my-face' all the time. So, to non-believers, there is no upside to being religious. Open Game.

What is destroying you mind is that you feel however you feel about your religion (even probably have emotional feelings for it) at a time when all religions are dying and being replaced with an egalitarian group philosophy. (I am well aware of the fact that this is the battle of the next century to get rid of this egalitarian system)

I used to be very religious too. The hardest thing I ever did was listen to what my own mind was telling me, which was that this fairy tale called religion was not only wrong, but destructive to an enlightened society. You have the same doubts or you wouldn't be asking the question.

In any event, I wish you peace and happiness, and if you get that from religion, more power to you. I will fight for your right to do so, but i will also try to persuade you to look within.

"Turning Water in to Wine for drunks and Dummies"

Posted by 101Chairborne

Damnit, why is that not in the Bible?!?

To all our friends who enjoy a glass of wine...and those who don't-- As Ben Franklin said, in wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in water there is bacteria. In a number of carefully controlled trials, scientists have demonstrated that if we drink one liter of water each day, at the end of the year we would have absorbed more than one kilo of Escherichia coli, (E. coli), the bacteria found in feces. In other words, we are consuming one kilo of poop. However, we do NOT run that risk when drinking wine and beer (or tequila, rum, whiskey, or other
liquor) because alcohol has to go through a purification process of boiling, filtering and/or fermenting. Remember: Water equals poop, and wine equals health. Therefore, it's better to drink wine and talk stupid, than to drink water and be full of shit. There is no need to thank me for this valuable information. I'm doing it as a public service for all my friends......

Nice to see that you loony libs have convcted this lady just because she is religious. Amazing....

Posted by retnluvnit

Yes, I'm sure the "loony libs" at the FAA convicted her merely because she's religious.

And BTW, weren't you one of those berating the sticker guy? What trial has he had?

And BTW, weren't you one of those berating the sticker guy? What trial has he had?

Posted by TFDNihilist at 2008-08-08 11:39 AM

How come they didn't do a cavity search? She was interfering with the crew! She charged the cockpit!

Terrorist! Terrorist! Rawwwwk!

You know, I miss that little guy.

The flight attendant is engaging in quite a bit of hyperbole, and some conjecture in attributing the hemmorhoids to consequential damages resulting from being elbowed in the chest.

Hearing the fictional story that a shrink concocts to explain the relationship between the incident and the damages claimed,
would be amusing. Are we still so susceptible to believing these recitations. Or is it time to disenfranchise these shamans, and prevent them from testifying as to their bilge in courts.

The flight attendant is an opportunist trying to find a quick pay day. Justice would require that she and her attorney be required to pay the costs of the litigation.

You learn that in law school?

Yea, good thing she's a rich white Christian, they're pretty low on the cavity search list.

Given white Chrisian's track record, she was probably hoping for a cavity search, especially if it was by a college freshman.

Or is it time to disenfranchise these shamans, and prevent them from testifying as to their bilge in courts.

You want talibaptists banned form Court? works for me.

You can look in her eyes and see she is a special kind of crazy. But Brown, the victim, says she is suing because "she suffers from anxiety and hemorrhoids". WTF. Did I miss the part in the story where she was sodomized by the preacher's wife?

Yea, good thing she's a rich white Christian, they're pretty low on the cavity search list.

Given white Chrisian's track record, she was probably hoping for a cavity search, especially if it was by a college freshman.

Posted by northguy3 at 2008-08-08 01:40 PM

yes but but she violated the rights of everyone else on the plane (it was delayed 2 1/2 hours!) and needed to be taught a lesson!

A good cavity search and holding her in detention and harassing her for several hours should do the trick and teach her a good lesson about being a whiney bitch and violating the rights of every one else on that plane right?

right SULLY?

right SOHEIFOX?

Lakewood "church" is not a church at all. Joel Olsteen is a motivational speaker - not a minister. Real Christian ministers do not fleece their congregations to the point of owning a helicopter and buying the building where the houston rockets used to play (The Summit).

If you don't buy into the basic premise of a spiritual world and creationism, then no religion is going to provide any meaning to you. So you could say religion, to non-religious people, is evil, mis-leading and 'preventable'. And what's worse is that they are 'in-my-face' all the time. So, to non-believers, there is no upside to being religious. Open Game. LIP

The same could be said of homosexuality LIP.

"right SULLY?"

Well, Dishonestboy, being a whiney bitch isn't a crime. Lucky for you.

She actually assaulted a member of the flight crew, which is the problem here. She should have been arrested and charged with assault and whatever other extra penalties come with assaulting the flight crew on a plane. She should have been put through whatever processes any other criminal arrested at the airport is put through for however many hours it took. I don't consider having to face the consequences of a crime you've committed to be harrassment.


Don't know about a cavity search, but if this woman was creating a scene then she should have been detained for questioning. Same for that guy with the 9/11 sticker.

An airplane is simply not the place to cop an attitude or try to prove some point.

She's lucky she didn't get tackled by some passengers. If I had been seated next to the situation and thought the flight attendant was in over her head, I think I might help her out.

If she had been married to an imam, she'd be tanning herself in sunny Cuba, between deep cleansing hair washings.

She should have been arrested and charged with assault and whatever other extra penalties come with assaulting the flight crew on a plane. She should have been put through whatever processes any other criminal arrested at the airport is put through for however many hours it took. I don't consider having to face the consequences of a crime you've committed to be harrassment.

so let me get this straight...do you think she should have gotten a good cavity search and so be taught a good lesson on how to act on an airplane and be treated like the whiny bitch she was...you know just like the evil whiny terrorist STICKERMAN?

"do you think she should have gotten a good cavity search and so be taught a good lesson on how to act on an airplane and be treated like the whiny bitch she was...you know just like the evil whiny terrorist STICKERMAN?"

I don't know why you have to continually obscure the issue.....It has nothig to do with teaching her a lesson about being a whiney bitch.

She assaulted someone. So yeah, she should have been searched just like anyone else arrested for disrupting a flight. I'm not sure why you think she wasn't.

Nice to see that you loony libs have convcted this lady just because she is religious. Amazing....

Posted by retnluvnit at 2008-08-08 10:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

Convicted?

Retarded&LuvnIt, It was actually the FAA. Ya know, those commie, hippies that oversee aviation.

p.s. Nice to see you defending her actions, simply because she's religious. Amazing......

The same could be said of homosexuality LIP.


Posted by ELCIDCE90

Good point. as long as they don't prosyletize, i can ignore them.

its even easier if you happen to belong to the side with the most people.

She assaulted someone. So yeah, she should have been searched just like anyone else arrested for disrupting a flight. I'm not sure why you think she wasn't.

Posted by Sully at 2008-08-08 04:08 PM

according to the article:

Brown's suit says the flight attendants asked to have Victoria Osteen removed from the plane. Victoria Osteen's lawyer, Rusty Hardin, says his client and her family left voluntarily. The incident delayed the flight about 2 hours.

nowhere does it say she was arrested and searched.

But, it does say that the flight was delayed for 2 1/2 hours.

Rights were violated!

Cavities must be searched!

Rawwwwk!

Donnerboy:

You're a goddamned idiot. I'm still waiting to hear back from you on why you think the airline's property rights are somehow magically less important then rights that the dumbass sticker kid willingly surrendered in order to board the plane.

And I think I said above that she's lucky she didn't get searched, because she deserved it.

You're just a counterculture moron, can't think anything through. You have no mind of your own, Donnerboy, you just despise authority.

It's always hilarious to see a herd of black sheep pointing at the larger herd of white sheep and saying "They are sheep, they are morons! We all hold identical opinions that stop a half an inch below the surface, dress the same, and call THEM the sheep. Hah ha ha look at the normals! Whenever anyone calls on us to think for ourselves for a change, let's just call them stupid!"

Whenever I see a crowd of people wearing the "Hay guyz I iz a rebel!" uniform, I always snicker and say to my wife, "Episode 2".

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