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The state of Texas defied an international court and executed Mexican citizen Jose Ernesto Medellin Tuesday for the rape and murder of two Houston teens in 1993 Houston gang rape-murders of two teenage girls.

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Thank you Texas for winning a "legal Alamo"

Thank you Texas for standing up and saving U.S. sovereignty.

Before the anti-death penalty folks come on here, read the background of how this one case could have destroyed our soveignty and our rule of law.

The traitor Bush and the Mexican government wanted this case to be decided by an international court. The Texans, God love 'em, stood firm and said no foreign courts have rule over U.S. court decisions. Our U.S. Supreme Court backed up Texas.

The killer is total scum. He deserved to die 11 years ago. He and his gang murdered two young Houston girls (14 and 16) who were walking through the park on their way home and inadvertently walked into their gang initiation. These scum raped and tortured them for an hour. The murdered girls had been brutually kicked and beaten until Medellin and his gang strangled them with a shoelace and stomped on their throats until they died. This killer even took one of the murdered girl's Mickey Mouse watch off her dead body and displayed it when bragging about these two murders to his friends.

There was never a single doubt Medellin was the murderer.

This case is important because of all the legal implications and threat to U.S. sovereignty involved.

To think President George W. Bush came down on the side of this murderer and the Mexican government instead of the American people should make us all hang our head in shame and embarrassment.

Before the usual knee-jerk reactions about Texans liking the death penalty pop up on this thread first READ the article. This very important case was being watched nationwide. Our legal sovereignty as a country depended on its outcome. You all should thank the Texans for this one.

I am against the death penalty, but they could have given this guy consular access and still exocuted him, couldn't they?

Texans do love the death penalty, though.

Texans do love the death penalty, though.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine

Tis true, and as an honorary Texan, I can say, I am happy about it. Of course I do not plan on murdering anyone. I am from Alabama, another state that loves the death penalty.

My advice to anyone is, don't go to texas or alabama with the intent of killing, unless you would like to take a dirt nap.

didn't know you were so bloddthirsty, lipz. ;-)

incidentally, I have more close friends from Alabama than from any other state. And even crazier is that texas comes in second in that respect.

ally'all make for some interesting dissidents (dissidents being my kind of people).

I am against the death penalty, but they could have given this guy consular access and still exocuted him, couldn't they?

Texans do love the death penalty, though.

The issue here is that Medellin said he was refused access to a consular but that was a lie. The killer never asked for a Mexican consular until years after the trial was over. The killer, his family and friends, his lawyers -- no one ever told the Texas authorities he was a Mexican national until he wanted to use it to stop his execution.

He was born in Mexico but lived here for years. Everyone assumed he was born here and the killer himself never said otherwise. He had lawyers. Any one of them could have brought out the fact he was a Mexican national years ago -- expecially before trial.

Also, just for your own info, Mexico and the international courts do not believe in the death penalty.


didn't know you were so bloddthirsty, lipz. ;-)
Posted by Hagbard_Celine

Not bloodthirsty, but at some point, society has to act for the benefit of the greater good. And that greater good is not some bullshit religious concept.

The Bhuddists have a saying, that goes something like this, 'Who must do the difficult thing - he who can'. It is morally difficult for a compassionate person to cause the death of anyone, but when that person rapes, tortures and kills 2 helpless teenage girls, the decision becomes much easier and ... fun.....

besides

outside consul is granted for travelers

illegal IMMIGRANTS are not travelers

at some point, society has to act for the benefit of the greater good. And that greater good is not some bullshit religious concept.
Lipzoidial

Agreed 100%.

glad to see there isn't too much disagreement on this one (so far). as the story reads, the gang raped these teenage girls for at least an hour, strangled them, and even STOMPED on their throats to finish them off. medellin was never denied consular access...he never asked for it..until years later when lawyers realized they may have a loophole. he deserved to be put to death in a much more vicious way, but lethal injection will do. before anyone says that this will only endanger US citizens overseas...let me just say....if a US citizen commits murder and rape in another country...i for one will not be pleading for leniency.

I liked my original headline better, it said it all --

- "Killer executed for rape/murder of 2 Houston teens"

My history teacher in HS had a daughter that was thrown out of a moving car by her Mexican boyfriend.

It killed her.

The guy ended up getting 364 days in jail. We were told that had his sentence been any longer than a year, they would have to deport him instead of incarcerating him.

It still doesn't make a lot of sense to me today....

"
Thank you Texas for winning a "legal Alamo"

Thank you Texas for standing up and saving U.S. sovereignty."

Chris is just upset because a dirty starving illegal Mexican wouldn't even fuck her for $100.

Whew, that troll stool is mighty funky.

i would disagree that "Texans love the death penalty". We don't, but we recognize that some criminals deserve it. It's really easy to avoid the death penalty if you don't like it.

"Whew, that troll stool is mighty funky."

I'm sure Chris would love to have some of her stinky stool on the cock of some strong Mexican migrant work fresh from an illegal harvest.

this posting is basically on small part of Chris's typical trolling against Mexicans.

Yikes! I'm outta here.

Furio--dont be a POS!

This guy deserved death.

It is secondary that he is was an illegal. Although there will be debates that it would not have happened if he wasn't here in the first place.

Thank God for George Bush--I hear you CC about Bush wanting the courts to look at this case.

And it is great that they did--because now they have definitive case law that will apply forever.

This guy and the other 8 (?) deserve death for the torture and death of the girls they killed.

All but three are getting death--two were under 17 and we saw what the SCOTUS did for death penalty and those under 17--now they have to serve life in prison. One other got 40 years.

Unbelievable crime.

Just for the record--the guy didn't even bring up the consulate BS until 4 years after the trial.

I don't like the death penalty, but Texas had the right to carry out the due process which was correct.

Who cares about some stupid international court. But why did it take so long to execute this guy?

Proud Texan Thom

Murphy,

I'll make one commentary on this. The US needs to follow international law and procedure otherwise it looks like a fucking joke especially in cases of the death penalty which has been effectively banned in every western democracy except the US. It was entirely unneccesary to execute this guy until every appeal has been heard. additionally regardless of his legal status in the US he does not lose his ability to full access and support by the legal system.

I'm against the death penalty not out of sympathy to the convicted but because it is a flawed process, unnecessary and is not effective.

I am also a US citizen living abroad and every time I see the US acting like compete fucktards in regards to international law and human rights I cringe since I worry about lashbacks occurring. Luckily immigration officials and people in many other countries aren't the useless cunts we seem to employ at our borders. Of course being White helps a lot too.

Furo,

If you are so in love with Europe why don't you grow a set of balls and renounce your U.S. citizenship and become a French Fag.

"Furo,
If you are so in love with Europe why don't you grow a set of balls and renounce your U.S. citizenship and become a French Fag."

Fwthom,

Even if did I still won't fuck you in the ass you desperate bitch.

"French Fag.
Posted by fwthom"

It's a small wish.
I'm sure the tooth fairy will reward you with what your heart desires.

The funniest shit is most french guys train for several years in martial arts and could bitch slap fwthom all over the place before fucking him in the ass unlubed.

"My advice to anyone is, don't go to texas or alabama with the intent of killing, unless you would like to take a dirt nap."

Capitol punishment is a great deterrent.

The issue here is that Medellin said he was refused access to a consular but that was a lie. The killer never asked for a Mexican consular until years after the trial was over. The killer, his family and friends, his lawyers -- no one ever told the Texas authorities he was a Mexican national until he wanted to use it to stop his execution.


He was born in Mexico but lived here for years. Everyone assumed he was born here and the killer himself never said otherwise. He had lawyers. Any one of them could have brought out the fact he was a Mexican national years ago -- expecially before trial.


Also, just for your own info, Mexico and the international courts do not believe in the death penalty.

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-08-06 03:43 PM | Reply |

And despite all this a treaty we agreed to abide by was violated was it not? And further doesn't this make our "word" worth that much less?

And soverignty? Thats almost like saying you having to pay back your mortgage was an assault on your dignity... Tell me how adhereing to a treaty we agreed to was an attack on our soverignty, simply not the case. Now the US in iraq, thats an invasion of a nations soverignty.

Capitol punishment is a great deterrent.

Posted by KBM at 2008-08-06 07:16 PM | Reply |

By the numbers the states that do the most executing, have the highest incidence of murder.


"For 2006, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty States was 5.9, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 4.22
"

The idea that its a great detrrent, is not supported by any fact. And only really makes sense to those of us that wouldn't kill another human being in the first place. If your a half cracked out bastard in the first place, I doubt you care, or even posess the capacity to understand the ramifications of it in the first place. And if you did, your probably not going to end up on death row for any number of reasons. Courts do tend to give points for remorse.

Maybe if you could kill someone, respawn them then maybe they would see it as a deterrent.

Thank God for George Bush--I hear you CC about Bush wanting the courts to look at this case.

Thank God for George Bush???? WTF are you talking about?

Unless you mean that if Bush hadn't demanded Texas abide by the international courts instead of following opur U.S. court decisions like they should this issue would not have been resolved -- well, then ,okay.

Bush did NOT want to abide by our Supreme Court decision.

All the traitor Bush wanted was to cater to the killer, the government of Mexico and his precious globalist world courts. Bush's action was disgraceful and I'm glad Texans got to see what Bush is really like.

"All the traitor Bush wanted was to cater to the killer, the government of Mexico and his precious globalist world courts"

Chris, you must be getting hot flashes from menopause because this is so fucking stupid. Tell one of our nearest neighbors and largest trade partners to go fuck themselves will do wonders in having them help out on that near and dear goal of your s to throw all Mexicans out of the US.

And I guess you are okay if the rest of the world disagrees with US laws they should simply tell us to fuck off as well?

Crazy bitch.

Bottom Line:

This guy (along with other pieces of shit) did evil
things to those girls - he deserves to give up his life.

ALSO:

Memo to the liberal pussies: HAPPY HIROSHIMA, BITCHES!

Thank God Truman had balls enough to kill hundreds
of thousands with one fell swoop in order to end a war.

FOOLIO

Crazy bitch.

Save your anti-American, drunken rants for someone who gives a shit
and that sure ain't me, Euroqueen. You scream "bitch" at everyone so often you put the drama queens in the SF gay pride parade to shame.

Don't you have some Belgrade blog where you can spew your America-hating bile? Your crap sure isn't welcome here in this country. .

Should have been 15 years earlier... But HOOOORAAAA Texas!

Dunno about you, but I'm glad Texas is one of our neighbors. Nice to have a friendly country living so close to you.

"Don't you have some Belgrade blog where you can spew your America-hating bile? "

Get a map first. Second of all everything you stand for is anti-american. Just because you are an underachieving waste of oxygen you have no right to be against immigration eswpecially considering your immigrant ancesters were obviously gutter trash from Europe who could not advance even in "The Land of Opportunity". Can't you just move to Mexico and leave America to the best and brightest of the world?

May we count those who can spell "ancestors" correctly among the best and the brightest?

Or was that just a typo you made because your pussy hurt?

Hey Pinch,

I really don't spend the effort on proof reading to shitbags like yourself because I'm not sure you have the reading comprehension anyway.

Of course you would only reply to spelling error since you can't argue worth a fuck.

When was the last time a lame shit like you ever got near pussy? your dog doesn't count.

oh damn, well that makes a lot of difference , he being a mexican national should have excused him from the death penalty after raping and murdering 2 young girls.1 down,37,999,999 to go. You libs surely are brain fucked !

And as far as the mexican military causing violence on the border, if they are armed , they are enemies of the U.S., bringing foreign military weapons and intent into my country, that is considered an attack on U.S. soil, wipe em out !

Nothing's sadder than an ignorant flaming Euroqueenie who can't handle her booze.

Memo to the liberal pussies: HAPPY HIROSHIMA, BITCHES!

Thank God Truman had balls enough to kill hundreds
of thousands with one fell swoop in order to end a war.

Posted by dean_blovia

I showed this post to my Dad. He's a lifelong Democrat and he was on a ship headed for mainland Japan when Truman dropped the bomb.
He asked me if you're retarded. I told him I didn't know.

"Thank God for George Bush!"

Considering the hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children killed in Iraq for Bush's Folly (TM), maybe you want to re-prhase that;

"Hail Satan for George Bush!"

Nothing's sadder than an ignorant shrill cow who can't get a gland in her cooze.

I really don't spend the effort on proof reading

Except it kinda looks to me like you can't spell the word.

And if you can't spell the word, proofreading ain't gonna do much for you, is it?

Of course you would only reply to spelling error since you can't argue worth a fuck.

But I don't see any particular instance where you've actually produced an argument.

I just see some humorous and bombastic ranting from some wanna-be Eurpo-pussy whose french boyfriend probably just left him for his martial arts instructor.

But I'm glad you're branching out and choosing to vent your frustration on the Drudge Retort rather than some 14 year-old Laotian boy's sphincter, as I imagine is often the case with you.

"Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me."

-some liberal pussy

"But I'm glad you're branching out and choosing to vent your frustration on the Drudge Retort rather than some 14 year-old Laotian boy's sphincter, as I imagine is often the case with you. "

Hey Pinch are you so racist that instead of going Asian you prefer to keep it in the family?

I've just got one thing to say to the international courts: You want Medellin?

"Come and Take It"
en.wikipedia.org

"Hey Pinch are you so racist that instead of going Asian you prefer to keep it in the family? "

Pinochet has a hankering for cattle.

hey Pinch,

you know what the funniest (or saddest) thing is you equate all of Europe to France although I'd put money on it you've never been to France let alone Europe nor have you ever met a Frenchman. You are just an ignorant shit who is proud of your ignorance.

what sort of shitty background are you from? Obviously Europe. Come on what ethnic group shat you out into texas? Or did your family not consider keeping track of parentage important?

Bartimus

Here's some more ammo for ya - a later version. (grin)

"Come and Take It"

Foolio

Come on what ethnic group shat you out into texas?.... Or did your family not consider keeping track of parentage important?

If you plan to mess with Texas (and Texans) you better make sure to spell it with a capital "T" or next time you'll get your whiny Eurobutt handed to you on a platter.

"If you plan to mess with Texas (and Texans) you better make sure to spell it with a capital "T" or next time you'll get your whiny Eurobutt handed to you on a platter."

Ah the myth that someone who is against the death penalty and for immigration but has little tolerance for ignorant shits is somehow non-violent themselves.

Why don't you go run down some Mexicans in your SUV and feel better about your sad situation in life?

I was in Houston a few ago. People were friendly, but they sure seem dumb. And insecure. Kind of seem threatened by outsiders. Seemed like they felt the need to tout their State any chance they got.

well i'm sure the 4-5 texans you met represents the entire population. i don't know how companies like Exxon Mobil and Dell stay in business with them there dumbasses. but hey, thanks for taking the time out of your important life to visit.

and what's with you guys who go way off the deep end and always end up talking about young boy sphincters and beyond weird shit like that??

"I was in Houston a few ago. People were friendly, but they sure seem dumb. And insecure. Kind of seem threatened by outsiders. Seemed like they felt the need to tout their State any chance they got."

Yeah Moder8 I got the same impression. Always talking about some shit that happened 150 years ago and had nothing to do with them because they personally have not shit in their lives to impress. Really out of shape. I'm supposed to be impressed because someone went into debt on a rapidly depreciating pickup truck?

The best Texans I met were the ones who moved away, friendly and intelligent. I've met a surprising amount in Europe.

"Thank you Texas for winning a "legal Alamo"

Thank you Texas for standing up and saving U.S. sovereignty.

Posted by CalifChris"

You're more than welcome. It was our pleasure.

Danved, the Texan, a Houstonian, in exile.

"I was in Houston a few ago. People were friendly, but they sure seem dumb. And insecure. Kind of seem threatened by outsiders. Seemed like they felt the need to tout their State any chance they got.

Posted by moder8"

I guess you were hanging out at the world-renowned Houston Medical center, or perhaps NASA?

BTW, I was in your neighborhood the other day and that's exactly what I thought about you.

BWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHA AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

"Always talking about some shit that happened 150 years ago and had nothing to do with them because they personally have not shit in their lives to impress"

Agreed, but you libbys won't let us kick the illegals out, and god knows you wouldn't want them to actually live in your town. please describe the mental utopia in which you live?

Coincidentally I was at HMC while in Houston. Lots of brilliant people there. Ironically, they all seemed to be from New York, Boston or Chicago. LOL

you should explore outside of the titty bars. places like NASA would blow you away, if you weren't a psuedo intellect.

"Agreed, but you libbys won't let us kick the illegals out,"

When you do get rid of the illegals who are you going to find to replace them in their jobs?

Again talking big, thinking little just like in Texas.

I'm for illegals staying not for humanitarian reasons but because they are critical to the labor pool and they do not cause more problems than the general population.

also all of the illegal cries are really tied into opposition to immigration. It's just a thin cover by slackers who are scared of the competition.

"you should explore outside of the titty bars. places like NASA would blow you away, if you weren't a psuedo intellect."

you should check out the women in central and eastern Europe and after that you wouldn't give two shits about a bunch of geeks trying to patch up 30yo styrofoam.

Hocico: Mexican Style

after a brief reorganization of the workforce, we would be just fine.

why is it that i've asked Texas bashers at least 10 times where they live that is so great, and i think i got a response once. enjoy your stinky "women"...i'll take a southern girl every time.

as usual, my wit is no match for yours. i guess i'll go back to the rest of my enjoyable life while you spend another 12 hours bravely attacking people...ONLINE! you're pathetic chump.

"why is it that i've asked Texas bashers at least 10 times where they live that is so great, and i think i got a response once. enjoy your stinky "women"...i'll take a southern girl every time.

as usual, my wit is no match for yours. i guess i'll go back to the rest of my enjoyable life while you spend another 12 hours bravely attacking people...ONLINE! you're pathetic chump."

Spoken from a position of ignorance and from someone who has tapped very little tail in his life as well.

"To think President George W. Bush came down on the side of this murderer and ...blah blah .... American people should make us all hang our head in shame and embarrassment."

Thanks for that, Calif...

Yet, I am sure, the THOUSANDS (*100's) of Iraqis, or Afghanis, murdered in Presi Bush's ILLEGAL wars against said nations should be quite happy.

And yes, you should ALL hang your heads in shame. Because an illegal war is ILLEGAL.

And what the US has done since 2001 is, in my opinion, the capital offense.

bragging about how much tail you've tapped is a sure sign that you have the mentality of a very young man. why don't you take it a step further and tell us all how many beers you can pound and the incredible amount you can bench press. tool. why don't you go shave your back and leave the important conversatoins to the grown up.

Medellin should have been executed within a year of his conviction.

I'm all for listening to world opinion but the rest of the world should NEVER dictate want we in the U.S. believe and do - especially domestically.

As for Mexico WTF should we listen to them about anything until they start cooperating with the U.S. to keep THEIR undesirables out of OUR country? It would help too if THEY got their OWN shit together before they even begin thinking about telling us what to do.

Thank God and it took too long, And really has anyone brought up just annexing Mexico, Do you think they would really put up a fight? If a bunch of Ranchers could defeat them in 1850's ..what chance would they stand now. I am so sick of hearing about Mexico's F***ing problems like somehow it's our fault, if so..then annex that third world narco-state and then we can accept blame

Chris and all the others expressing their bloodlust today.

You are right in that the executed guy did some appalling things. And now by doing some appalling things to him, We the People (especially the honorary Texans) have sunk to his level. Now we ALL - not just Senor Medellin - have blood on our hands. herm

I hate what this guy did, but Texas and Texans need to stop having an attitude that they own the place and can skip out on any obligation they want to. And nobody better accuse me of being anti-texas or not knowing enough. If it means anything to you, Sam Houston was a direct uncle in my maternal line. I know Texas, and I also know that Texas has become something that Houston never wanted it to be.

"The government of Mexico sent the U. S. Department of State a diplomatic note of protest for this violation of international law, expressing its concern for the precedent that it may create for the rights of Mexican nationals who may be detained in that country," the Mexican government said in a written statement.
Has US sent the Mexico department of state a diplomatic note of protest for the illegal border crossings by it "citizens". Didn't think so.

And it feels good. I'm supporting democrats this go-around with the Presidential election, but I'm definitely for the death penalty when it's as verifiable they committed the crime as possible. Otherwise this son of a bitch would be living on the government's tab for the next however many decades.

And it feels good. I'm supporting democrats this go-around with the Presidential election, but I'm definitely for the death penalty when it's as verifiable they committed the crime as possible. Otherwise this son of a bitch would be living on the government's tab for the next however many decades.

Posted by ignorancesucks

Ironically, your nick is IGNORANCESUCKS. Now I;m not for a second defending this scum, or anyone else who commits crimes as sick as this. But I need to get this out there: It costs more to execute someone than it is to jail them for life. Plus, if you keep them in jail for life you can study them and try to understand why committed did the heinous crimes they did, thereby possibly learning something productive about human psychology. You can also put them to WORK for the rest of their lives, actually helping the society they have harmed in the process of committing their crimes.

Ignorance does suck. Allow me to educate you:

Financial Costs
It is sometimes suggested that abolishing capital punishment is unfair to the taxpayer, as though life imprisonment were obviously more expensive than executions. If one takes into account all the relevant costs, the reverse is true. "The death penalty is not now, nor has it ever been, a more economical alternative to life imprisonment."(49)
A murder trial normally takes much longer when the death penalty is at issue than when it is not. Litigation costsincluding the time of judges, prosecutors, public defenders, and court reporters, and the high costs of briefsare all borne by the taxpayer.

A 1982 study showed that were the death penalty to be reintroduced in New York, the cost of the capital trial alone would be more than double the cost of a life term in prison.(50)

In Maryland, a comparison of capital trial costs with and without the death penalty for the years 1979-1984 concluded that a death penalty case costs "approximately 42 percent more than a case resulting in a non-death sentence."(51) In 1988 and 1989 the Kansas legislature voted against reinstating the death penalty after it was informed that reintroduction would involve a first-year cost of "more than $ 11 million."(52) Florida, with one of the nations largest death rows, has estimated that the true cost of each execution is approximately $3.2 million, or approximately six times the cost of a life-imprisonment sentence.(53)

The only way to make the death penalty a "better buy" than imprisonment is to weaken due process and curtail appellate review, which are the defendants (and societys) only protections against the grossest miscarriages of justice. The savings in dollars would be at the cost of justice: In nearly half of the death-penalty cases given review under federal habeas corpus, the conviction is overturned.(54)

Chris and all the others expressing their bloodlust today....

Herm, you're missing the most important factor in this case. The killer got what he deserved but if the t=Texas courts had given him a life sentence then so be it. What was so important, and had lawyers and judges across our nation watching the outcome of this case, was whether or not the U.S. would have to turn our legal authority over to some international court.

This matter was tried in the highest court in our land -- the U.S. Supreme Court -- which upheld the decision of the Texas Court of Appeals. NO international court should ever be allowed to overturn any decision made under our laws for a crime committed in our country. The murderer was given his full round of appeals and he decided not to bring up the fact he was here illegally and ask for a Mexican counsular until years after the trial and sentencing were over. He never said a word, his family never said a word, nor did his lawyers.

If this killer had asked when he first went to trial he would been given a Mexican counsular but he himself chose not to. It would not have made a difference anyway as he bragged to many people about killing the two girls and there was never any doubt as to his guilt. His brother is doing 40 years for his part in the murders.

You should thank Texas for fighting and preventing a takeover of our legal system by some globalist international court. I hope the Texans see just where their homeboy President Bush stood in this case -- on the side of the murderer and the Mexican government and against the laws of Texas and our U.S. Supreme court. I hope they remember it too.

"I hope the Texans see just where their homeboy President Bush stood in this case -- on the side of the murderer and the Mexican government and against the laws of Texas and our U.S. Supreme court. I hope they remember it too.

Posted by CalifChris"

BELIEVE ME, we do... and the outrage has not stopped in Texas nor anywhere else that respects LAW and ORDER.


Always talking about some shit that happened 150 years ago and had nothing to do with them because they personally have not shit in their lives to impress.

You're treading onto dangerously thin ice. Slavery was ended almost 140 years ago and we're still seeing apologies made for it in congress and in state houses across the country.

It was ended 140 years ago. Why do those black people always bring it up?



Just because you are an underachieving waste of oxygen you have no right to be against immigration eswpecially considering your immigrant ancesters were obviously gutter trash from Europe who could not advance even in "The Land of Opportunity".

Law of the Land.

When they start crossing the border through legal means, then I won't have an issue with it. There's two Guatamalans at work who have moved up from general labor to welders. They're full time, with benefits (the people I work for pay employee health insurance). Both are here legally and both are on the path to become citizens.

If they had jumped a fence and swam across a river to get to the United States, that's not immigration. What do the French or the Spanish or the Swedes do with people who are found to be in country illegally? I can tell you what the Mexicans do, when they find someone in their country illegally.

They send them right back where they came from.

NEXT, will the next scumbag in the death penalty line please step forward.

But when you shoot a Mexican in Texas, the case won't even get past the grand jury.

....if a US citizen commits murder and rape in another country...i for one will not be pleading for leniency.

Posted by Monster

I also agree with the Medellin's fate, however as to the above statement, it has happened and is happening in Iraq. There are always bad apples, even in the military, and these people cannot be given a free pass only because "they were serving their country" or because the victims were foreign.

"
....if a US citizen commits murder and rape in another country...i for one will not be pleading for leniency.


Posted by Monster"

well Monsterfucktard will you be pleading that they get full support of international law and a right to all appeals?

Fucking rightwing coward. So scared of criminals you are willing to give up all of your civil liberties. Too much of a pussy to live abroad and experience life.


So many beaners, so little time.

At least the animal showed remorse.

deathpenaltyyes.blogspot.com


HE...got off easy!

Ahh furio give it a rest. Just ask all your buddies over there what the french did to pass time as Hitler killed all those people in concentration camps! Enjoy

Davethewave- I guess you never heard of the french maquis, partisans, or resistance.

Didn't cover them on foxnews?

Dave-
re: "Just ask all your buddies over there what the french did to pass time as Hitler killed all those people in concentration camps! Enjoy"

They'd probably point you to something like this to relieve the most glaring symptoms of your flagrant and clueless ignorance:

en.wikipedia.org

Alexandrite-
Great minds...

; )

Is DaveTheProvenLiar spreading lies on this thread as well?

Just his ignorance. There's a lot to go around.

I have mixed feelings on this one.

The death penalty aside (as I have no use for it as a part of our criminal justice system), the legal ramifications of the decision worry me some.

We travel abroad under the very thin veneer of civility codified into international law. An international law with no real teeth.

If I travel to China and get charged with some kind of political crime, I hope that they will honor that law and give me access to my consular, but I have no real guarantees that they will. Setting precedent like this makes that unlikely scenario a bit more daunting.

On the other hand, I do see the disconnect between that scenario, and the guy here who didn't claim his citizenship till after the trial and conviction.

Like I said, mixed feelings.

Oh Furio. Your namecalling pierces me so deeply...I can hardly stand it. Such a child. I'm not giving up anything but the presence of this trash who coldbloodedly raped and murdered two young girls. I wonder how you would feel if that was your sister. Maybe you would feel the same sympathy for Medellin, maybe not. I don't really care. What I do care about is the idea that another country is going to dictate how we handle murderers here. The guy is 100% guilty. He wasn't prevented from doing anything to defend himself. It's as open and closed of a case as you will find. I don't fear criminals not do I sympathize with them. I've been around the world and I don't see any reason to live elsewhere. Especially not because you "think" that I need to. Look what it has (or hasn't) done for you. An immature anonymous blogger who talks tough on the internet. We both know good and well that if you tried that shit in person, many of the people here would have you swallowing your own teeth. Isn't it mandatory prayer time there? Better hurry along.

Two things: 1) By executing the perpetrator of this heinous crime, We The People (including "honorary" Texans) have sunk to his level, and OUR hands are now equally bloody. 2) If Mexico decides to execute a gringo for slipping ten pesos to the PRD or spitting on the Calle Insurgentes sidewalk, we won't really have a leg to stand on, will we? Luckily Mexico doesn't execute. herm

"This matter was tried in the highest court in our land -- the U.S. Supreme Court -- which upheld the decision of the Texas Court of Appeals."

Chrissie, those two tribunals fail to make ME feel any more secure. You expect Scalia to give a hoot about justice OR essential human decency?

"NO international court should ever be allowed to overturn any decision made under our laws for a crime committed in our country."

Why not? We try people in other countries (Iraq, Afghanistan). And we're Very Big for the World Court until it comes Reagan's or Bush's turn to stand before it.

The murderer was given his full round of appeals and he decided not to bring up the fact he was here illegally and ask for a Mexican counsular."

No doubt spooked by visions of deportation to Tijuana. Sad! herm

There they go again!

Those blood thirsty Texans...

So intent on revenge and killing that they are blind to the consequences of their actions.

Nice going Texas!


Apocalypto - you are spot on! If only the Texans would stop using their LIZARD brains they would realize that it is cheaper to NOT execute and that killing them is the EASY way out.

I gave you a newsworthy flag because that information is so important.

Why can they see the logic of just making them rot in a jail cell?

Violating International treaties just to get revenge and so to FEEL BETTER?

WE are only a Nation of Laws when it suits the powers that be I guess...

If anyone of these girls would have been my daughter, those guys would have never made it to trial. , and yes Herm.. our hands are bloody, but then nxt moron illegal mexican that thinks about doing something like this to two young girls, well maybe they will think and decide to just let them pass, its until we start holding people accountable for their actions and making the result costly , they will continue to act in these kind of ways. simple cause and affect, they cause a rape/murder they die. trust me, if they execute a gringo for spitting on the sidewalk, i bet no one spits on the side walk again.

but then nxt moron illegal mexican that thinks about doing something like this to two young girls, well maybe they will think and decide to just let them pass, its until we start holding people accountable for their actions and making the result costly , they will continue to act in these kind of ways. simple cause and affect, they cause a rape/murder they die. trust me, if they execute a gringo for spitting on the sidewalk, i bet no one spits on the side walk again.


ahhh the Lizard Brain in action.

Capital Punishment has no effect on whether these "morons" will think about doing these crimes. It is not about simple cause and effect and the world is NOT black and white... the world is complex.

And the mind is a terrible thing to waste.

I wonder if KC101 is the bogus paratrooper's illegitimate offspring. Nah! THAT 101 isn't into women. KC, if bloody hands don't make you feel a bit - well - dirty, I can't say much to you. herm

KC, if bloody hands don't make you feel a bit - well - dirty, I can't say much to you. herm

Herm is throwing out indictments about "bloody hands".

what a joke.

Destroying the life of a vermin such as this villain is well worth the extra cost. The process does not lend itself to cost-benefit analysis.

Furio, the expatriate, certainly lacks "a satisfied mind." I'm certainly glad that you're living among the Europeans, people whom you feel are more congenial to your persona. The distress you might experience living in the U.S. heartland is not additional disturbance you should endure, amplifying your despair and belligerency.

It seems that some of you feel a goal is to render yourself devoid of emotional response, which is denying your own humanity. The apologists for the beast, who beat these girls, knocked the two front teeth out of one, fractured ribs, and what have you, then strangled them - first with a belt that broke and then with shoe laces - and then "bragged" that he had virgin blood on his clothes, seem to ignore the harm done these innocent victimized girls.

This creature has forfeited his status as someone fit to live in our society.

The lachrymose response, the apologetics, the lamentation that no one has "the right" to deprive another person of life, is a rather novel formulation, which has recently gained currency among decadent people, based on the ruminations of people, who somehow think that they can deny their humanity. The emotional response that demands "justice," revenge, extermination of the scumbag who engaged in such behavior, is a marker of humanity, and supporting this malevolent creature remaining alive is a marker of absolute depravity.

The shame of it all is the length of time these ba$tards get to breathe air after they have been found guilty.

Some people would have been more productive as miscarriages.

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