I thought everyone was poor and bankrupted by the last 8-10 years of Bush.

I thought everyone was poor and bankrupted by the last 8-10 years of Bush.

~Shitzu Eric.

There you go again, using the "T" word.

Wot has Spud told you about that, eh?

In point of fact the vast majority are less well off after 8 years of BushCo.

The rich 5% at the top end of the payscale, otoh, have made out like bandits, just like BigOil and other corporate entities.

Do you Righty Tighty ass-munches not pay attention EVAR?

/No need to answer that as it were a rhetorical question.

Be Well.

Why can't McCain supporters talk about their candidate?

Spud chooses to deflect rather than comment on the story? No surprise as the koolaide flows strong in this one.

Why can't McCain supporters talk about their candidate?

Because there's no "there" there?

Why can't McCain supporters talk about their candidate?

Posted by Manypaths

Ask away MP!

Spud chooses to deflect rather than comment on the story? No surprise as the koolaide flows strong in this one.

~El Squid

Wot's to comment on? It's a positive story fer Obama, ya meathead.

Senator Barack Obama often highlights the campaign contributions of $200 or less that have amounted to fully half of the $340 million he has collected so far

So not only is Obama far more popular, well spoken, thoughtful, believable and trustworthy than John McCain, he is also a great fundraiser.

He's recieved the largest nummber of individual donations in small amounts and he's also recieved larger contributions as well.

Bundlers?

Quelle shock! Quelle suprise!!

You do know that DC is a open sewerpipe of a city where corruption and over-influence by bigmoney is the rule and not the exception?

Yer at least that aware Spud hopes.

All politicians are corporate biatches.

All of Them.

The best you can realistically hope for is to get one who's smart enuff and experienced enuff to do the job but one who's not so overly inculcated into the ways of DC that he (or she) pulls a Dumbya and turns the reins of power over to his corporate taskmasters enriching those who need it least by screwing over that need it the most.

Meet Barack Obama.

08ama '08.

G08ama!

Be Well.

PS: Thanx fer askin'.

Be Well.

Wot's to comment on? It's a positive story fer Obama, ya meathead. Dudspud

Yeah good for the money, bad for the people on the DR who are always talking about where hussein's getting his contributions from - politics of change right.

The best you can realistically hope for is to get one who's smart enuff and experienced enuff to do the job but one who's not so overly inculcated into the ways of DC that he (or she) pulls a Dumbya and turns the reins of power over to his corporate taskmasters enriching those who need it least by screwing over that need it the most.

Spud - same old drivel (sorry DANNI). Hussein has no experience and "Many of the bundlers come from industries with critical interests in Washington."

Keep drinking the koolaide spud. You are as blind as the rest. Isn't it time for recess?

Hussein has no experience and "Many of the bundlers come from industries with critical interests in Washington.

Hussein as you like to call him has exactly the same amount of experience being POTUS as John SIDNEY McCain III.

You seem to think that Spud has to prove that Obama is perfect or sommat.

You sirrah, are a tardbot.

All Spud has to prove is that Obama is better than Sidney III.

The fact that Obama is miles and days more competent, less corrupted and more capable of doing the job than Sidney III is patently obvious to anyone not on the reichwing Kool-aid.

Keep drinking the koolaide spud

By the way, there's no E on the end of Kool-aid.

It was originally called Kool-ade but the makers were forced to change it because "Ade" usually indicated the presence of actual fruit juice ergo it became "Kool-aid" and remains so to this day.

No need to thank Spud.

Spud is only too happy to help.

^_^

Spud's good like that.

Be Well.

Spud you sound all too familiar with Kool-Aid but that surprises no one as you have been on it since you were a wee small potato. Unfortuneately it has kept your mind small all these years.

Spud, explain to us again why a shithead Kanadian Kool Aid drinker is dabbling in American politics instead of tending his tree squirrel farm?

Yes I know the tree squirrels need the relief but we don't need the mindless dribble. Don't go away mad Spud just go away.

By the way, there's no E on the end of Kool-aid. -spelling nazi

Sorry. It's been a long time since I was in the third grade. Not so long for you though. Make sure you drink your milk at lunch spud.

Hussein as you like to call him has exactly the same amount of experience being POTUS as John SIDNEY McCain III. - spudandian

Where did I say presidential experience? He has no experience at all - doing anything. Tell me spud, what are his accomplishments in life? Book writing?

Tell me spud, what are his accomplishments in life? Book writing?

Obama's accomplishments?

Are you daft or are you seriously that ignorant?

Oops, Spud fergot who he was talking to fer a second.

We'll go with ignorant fer the nonce.

Graduated first black president of Harvard Law Review.
Passed up over 600 Big Money offers after graduation.
Worked fer 13 K a year in inner city Chicago.
10 years Senate experience both state and national.
100% approval from Planned Parenthood.
100% approval from the NEA.
100% approval from the League of Conservation Voters.
While State Senator he got health care fer 20,000 kids.
Made it a law that police videotape the entirety of a confession.
Publically opposed Iraq War before the invasion.
Called "the point man on ethics" by Harry Reid.
Worked with Russ Feingold to limit influence of lobbyist on pols and to make the entire process more transparent.
Worked to get rid of, limit and force into the light of day congressional earmarks.
Told Hamas that America would never recopgnise them till they renounce their mission to destroy Israel.
Called fer increased fuel efficiency standards.

Oh yeah and he wrote a coupla wildly successful books.

And that's just fer starters.

Now... Wot do you have?

A washed up bum pilot and elitist military brat who abandoned his wife and kids to marry fer money.

A rage fueled ignoramus who doesn't even know the difference between Sunni and Shia, where Iran is, who thinks Putin is the president of Germany, and is not sure whether or not Czechoslovakia even exists.

Good luck with all that in November.

S'rsly.

08ama/Biden '08.

Be Well.

It takes a special kind of stupid to list "Passed up over 600 Big Money offers after graduation" and "Worked fer 13 K a year in inner city Chicago" as accomplishments for a guy running for President.
Not to mention using a favorable quote from Harry Reid, a fellow Dem as an accomplishment. Oh yeah, he also asked thatcars get better gas mileage...

Fuck, you know things are bad when the clown (literally) at the childrens birthday parties touts those things as accomplishments.

I'll bet other Obama supporters are mortified in regards to Dethpuds post.

Graduated first black president of Harvard Law Review.

OK, a nice accomplishment. I don't know how it's analogous to POTUS, but it's a reasonable accomplishment.

Passed up over 600 Big Money offers after graduation.

It's a nice sentiment, but how this pertains to POTUS is beyond me.

Worked fer 13 K a year in inner city Chicago.

Again, nice sentiment but I don't know that I'd call this an accomplishment.

10 years Senate experience both state and national.

NOw this is definitely an accomplishment, but far less so than his competitor.

100% approval from Planned Parenthood.
100% approval from the NEA.
100% approval from the League of Conservation Voters.

All this tells me is that 3 different organizations like his liberal advocacies. This is hardly an accomplishment.

While State Senator he got health care fer 20,000 kids.
Made it a law that police videotape the entirety of a confession.

OK, so as a state senator he passed some legislation. An accomplishment? Yes, but this is hardly what I'd call big-ticket items.

Publically opposed Iraq War before the invasion.

First off, this operates under the assumption that going into Iraq was a terrible decision, which is debatable. Secondly, while this is noteworthy, he didn't actually have to vote NO. It's pretty easy to be a naysayer when one doesn't have to put their name to a vote.

Called "the point man on ethics" by Harry Reid.

Somehow I suspect a similar commendation of McCain from a fellow Repub. senator won't impress you nearly as much.

Worked with Russ Feingold to limit influence of lobbyist on pols and to make the entire process more transparent.

What did he actually accomplish here?

Worked to get rid of, limit and force into the light of day congressional earmarks.

This is nice enough, but McCain has been even more hawkish on this issue and has a much more proven track-record on this.

Told Hamas that America would never recopgnise them till they renounce their mission to destroy Israel.

Wow. He's real tough on Hamas, that Obama.

Called fer increased fuel efficiency standards.

So, he stood on a soapbox and yelled, "Burn less gas!" Color me unimpressed.

Oh yeah and he wrote a coupla wildly successful books.

A nice accomplishment to be sure. Again, not sure how writing a book translates to the minutia of POTUS, but it's a nice accomplishment nonetheless.

Bomb bomb bomb, let's bomb Iran....

If that is the voice of "experience" then puhleeeez give me some good judgement instead.

Obama was saying what his liberal south side Chicago constituents wanted him to say.

Spud forgot to mention Obama's mentors of Frank Marshall Davis and Rev Wright and Ayres and Rezko--there is another--a couple in college--check back later. It's out of his book.

143 days in the US Senate and started running for POTUS--yawn...

He was against the surge and still says it did nothing to bring about the peace in Iraq.

There were 10 Senators to do the ethics bill--this is the only time he crossed the aisle.

Spud: Graduated first black president of Harvard Law Review.

Jeff J: OK, a nice accomplishment. I don't know how it's analogous to POTUS, but it's a reasonable accomplishment.

Well, that's mighty white of you to say so, Jeff!

Spud: Passed up over 600 Big Money offers after graduation.

Jeff: It's a nice sentiment, but how this pertains to POTUS is beyond me.

Speaks to motivations and character.

Spud: Worked fer 13 K a year in inner city Chicago.

Jeff: Again, nice sentiment but I don't know that I'd call this an accomplishment.

Again, see previous answer.

Spud: 10 years Senate experience both state and national.

Now this is definitely an accomplishment, but far less so than his competitor.

McCain's longevity in DC is not a point in his favour, Jeff. Yer argument that Obama aint been there ong enuff is trumped by Spud's argument that he's been there too long. He's proven himself, again and again, to be a pandering, lying, flip flopping, corporately corrupted hack and after eight years of BushCo America cannot afford another such mistake.

Spud: 100% approval from Planned Parenthood.
100% approval from the NEA.
100% approval from the League of Conservation Voters.

Jeff: All this tells me is that 3 different organizations like his liberal advocacies. This is hardly an accomplishment.

He appeals to enviromentalists, teachers and those who think every life should be a wanted life.

That counts in Spud's book if not in yours.

Spud: While State Senator he got health care fer 20,000 kids.
Made it a law that police videotape the entirety of a confession.

Jeff; OK, so as a state senator he passed some legislation. An accomplishment? Yes, but this is hardly what I'd call big-ticket items.

Maybe Justice and children health aint high up on yer priority list but they are on Spud's.

Spud: Publically opposed Iraq War before the invasion.

Jeff: First off, this operates under the assumption that going into Iraq was a terrible decision, which is debatable. Secondly, while this is noteworthy, he didn't actually have to vote NO. It's pretty easy to be a naysayer when one doesn't have to put their name to a vote.

First off, there is doubt in Spud's mind that the Iraq invasion/occupation was a terrible decision.

Secondly, despite not having to vote No at the time, his position still puts him head and shoulders above the MIC/BigOil whore called Sidney III. Besides, at the time he opposed the war he did so not because it was politically popular but because it was the right thing to do. America needs that kind of judgement and bravery and obviously won't be getting it from McTaint.

Be Well.

PS: Yer turn. Why should America vote fer McCain.
PPS: If you say "Because he's not Obama" you FAIL.

Who owns Obama?? Who is running him and his campaign? The Daley machine?

"Nearly three dozen of the bundlers have raised more than $500,000, including more than a half-dozen who have passed the $1 million mark and one or two who have exceeded $2 million, according to interviews with fund-raisers."

This is the part we are not allowed to view--who is doing the gathering and bundling??

Nothing wrong with collecting money--just like to know who is doing it for him.

He was against the surge and still says it did nothing to bring about the peace in Iraq.

The entire point to the surge was to set the stage fer the political reconcilliation neccessary fer Iraq to avoid devolving into civil war.

That political reconciliation hasn't happened.

Ergo the surge is a failure.

Obama is correct.

If you wanna try doing the GOPher thing where you point to a decline in violence levels then Spud'll just tell you that people dying at a slightly lesser rate in Iraq is not progress and not peace.

Try another crayon, Murphy.

Yer last one broke.

Be Well.

Nothing wrong with collecting money--just like to know who is doing it for him.

You are one stupid bitch Murphy.

Why can't you figure out this shit on your own?

Or do you just like to bitch because you are one?

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Spud--the Iraqis have now completed 15 out of 18 political issues!!!

Where have you been?

Why should America vote fer McCain?

McCain was not not my first choice--but here are a few positions--

He will appoint SCOTUS like Roberts (Obama voted no)
He won't raise taxes
His energy policy is do everything now and he understands this--energy runs this country and without we will die--economically and on down the line.
He is a stingy SOB and will veto pork spending
He wants to secure the borders first
He is pro-life
He is right on Iraq and the views on islamo-fascists.
He does cross the aisle to compromise and get things done. (may not agree with all of it--but he walks the walk)
He is a war hero
He has a health care plan for tax credits to working folks--not just employers.
He cares about the environment

Those are the highlights.

McCain's longevity in DC is not a point in his favour,

Any long time senator has a hard time. Look at the past few elections.

Kerry
Gore
McCain(I think he will lose)
Kennedy
Kennedy
Dole
Dole

It is easy to trash a long standing senator versus a governor. It just is.

Spud, you are too funny. I guess you must not understand what I meant - ACCOMPLISHMENTS - off of your list bammy has:

Oh yeah and he wrote a coupla wildly successful books.

Thats it. Well ask a third grader a question - get a third grader response. Too funny. You are now my second favorite bitch behind HERMIE! Keep up the good work spud - glad you can't vote though. Guess you don't get to vote up there either - well in a meaningful way that is.

And Murph - I return the earlier compliment and tip my hat to your response.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS

Where's McSame's ACCOMPLISMENTS?

Destroying five planes?
Fucking around on the mother of his kids?
Flip-flopping in order to rake in campaign dough?
A campaign finance reform that had his name on it that he walked away from when he wanted to break the rules?
Mistaking Sunni fer Shia?
Calling his second wife a cunt?
Being born into a well off family?

El Cid is being less than Lucid here.

^_^

Be Well.

Spud--I listed Mccain's accomplishments and instead of commenting yea or nay you come back with a list of BS that is not relevant.

Notice (this time anyway) there is no list of Obama's shortcomings--the issues were addressed.

And as has been pointed out--Senators do not normally win over governors.

You have to go back to Kennedy over Nixon. (Big debate over that election as well).

We have two senators to choose from this time around.

One who has served since 1982 in the House and Senate.

And another who served 7 years in the Ill Senate and 143 days in the US Senate.

"I listed Mccain's accomplishments"

You sure set off the Bullshit Alert with that one.
Actually, you didn't list Jurassic John's accomplishments.
You listed what you perceive to be his views.
But I don't see any accomplishments there.
They're not the same thing.
Please feel free to try again.
But give it some thought first, okay?

Hey Doc--Obama has done nothing. He was in the US Senate for 143 days and started running for POTUS.

McCain has

Campaign Finance

Gang of 14 for SCOTUS--that worked!

Immigration

He has crossed the aisle to work with Dems--

When has Obama done that?

McCain promoted the surge against everyone--and he was right.

And the question was Why vote fer McCain?

So it was answered.

McCain has Campaign Finance

You mean the Campaign Finance reform he put his name on and then walked away from when he wanted to bend the rules fer himself?

McCain promoted the surge against everyone--and he was right

~The surge has failed to reach it's stated goals.

He's so wrong on Iraq it's crazy.

SCOTUS?

That may well be the best reason to NOT vote fer McSame.

He won't raise taxes

No instead he'll wreck the economy on behalf of his 5%er friends and the subsequent inflation will end up making the average Americans lifestyle worse, just like we've seen with Bush's so-called tax cuts which have only benifitted the hyper rich and multinational corps at the expense of everyone else.

His energy policy is do everything now and he understands this--energy runs this country and without we will die--economically and on down the line.

His energy policies, like BushCo's, will be written to benefit BigOil and not the American people.

When will you learn, Murphy?

He is a stingy SOB and will veto pork spending

So he sez but he's not particularily believable in this regard. Obama has worked to bring transparency to the out of control process in his short time in office. McCain hasn't.

He wants to secure the borders first

Has Bush secured the borders?

McCain has flip flopped on this issue so many times he has no credibility left.

He is pro-life

He is pro forced birth another flip flop from his previously held position in order to make himself more palatable to the extremists on the right.

Just another reason NOT to vote fer him far as Spud can see.

He is right on Iraq and the views on islamo-fascists.

He is wrong on Iraq and Islamo-fascist is a stupid word used largely by fear-driven fools.

He does cross the aisle to compromise and get things done. (may not agree with all of it--but he walks the walk)

May have been true in the past but now the New McCain is a total rethug shill who toes the party line completely.

He is a war hero

Dropping bombs on civilians in an unneccessary and unjust war, crashing five planes and ending up in a PoW camp makes one a hero?

He has a health care plan for tax credits to working folks--not just employers.

Obama's plan is better and it concentrates on the people who need health care not the for-profit HMOs and insurers.

He cares about the environment.

Like Bush who put some of the worst polluters and their lobbyists in charge over at the EPA?

Neep! ALL Wrong answers, thanx fer playin'.

At least ya tried.

G08ama!

Be Well.