I wonder how they'll enforce the requirement that you keep your gun disassembled unless there is a threat of immediate harm in your home. Seems to be an impractical rule.

"hey mr rapist, can you hold on while i put my firing pin back in?"

"mr murderer, do you mind helping me look for the key to this gun lock?"

Come on, this is legislation based on spite, a childish retribution.

I wonder how they'll enforce the requirement that you keep your gun disassembled unless there is a threat of immediate harm in your home. Seems to be an impractical rule.

Posted by JOE at 2008-07-23 05:24 PM | Reply | Flag

If you are raped or killed and your gun is locked or partially assembled you are ok.
If on the other hand, you blow the shitbag away you obviously broke the law so they will get you for manslaughter.

rwd

"If you blow the shitbag away you obviously broke the law so they will get you for manslaughter."

Sounds about right. Where is the ACLU on this one? I thought they defended peoples' constitutional rights? I guess their lawyers are too busy trying to get voting rights for felons down in Alabama.

Morons.

They haven't come to grips with the fact, the constitution won and they lost.

Chicago should give up before they waste the taxpayers money.

So where do you guys keep your loaded weapons? By the door, on the nightstand or both? Got kids?

Just living in Washington D.C. is enough of a "reasonably perceived threat of immediate harm" in one's home.

Whew... that's good... problems solved right? No more gun violence should be expected in DC. That rules.

"I wonder how they'll enforce the requirement that you keep your gun disassembled unless there is a threat of immediate harm in your home. Seems to be an impractical rule."

By invading your house whenever they want. Go Big Brother!!!

must be kept unloaded and disassembled or equipped with trigger locks

Yep and my response to the officer responding to the dead intruder would be.....

It WAS unloaded, disassembled and had a trigger lock. I guess that I was lucky.

"By invading your house whenever they want."

And if you're ready for them...you're guilty.

I am just asking because I know next to nothing about guns but how long does it take to remove a trigger lock? Shouldn't these requirments just be in homes where there are kids?? Sounds sort of stupid to me and I'm a lib.

"If you are raped or killed and your gun is locked or partially assembled you are ok.
If on the other hand, you blow the shitbag away you obviously broke the law so they will get you for manslaughter."

rwd

Posted by rightwingdon at 2008-07-23 06:47 PM

YEAH!

You do know you can always move somewhere else dont you?! I mean, if I was under the eminent threat of being murdered or raped as apparently you are ---- I would move.

If you dont live there ---- go whine somewhere else about how a republic works.

"So where do you guys keep your loaded weapons? By the door, on the nightstand or both?"

Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Left side of the hood, near the windshield.

"I know next to nothing about guns ..."

Posted by danni

Perhaps you should then take the time and educate yourself. Go to a gun shop. Pick up a Lady Smith and Wesson. Go to the gun range. Get some instruction. Pop-off a few hundred rounds. Then you will be able to converse knowledgeably and intelligently about handguns.

"but how long does it take to remove a trigger lock?"

Irrelevant when the Bad Guy is kicking your door in. Though it may take only a few seconds to remove the trigger lock, you still need to go fetch the key from wherever you stashed it. Then it is too late.

Left side of the hood, near the windshield.
Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2008-07-24 10:37 AM

YEAH!

What I want to know is why you live in a place that in order to feel safe --- you need a gun in the car!

Sounds ridiculous!

I lived on the east side of San Jose all the way to Baltimore MD and NEVER felt as though I need to carry anything!

Maybe youre hangin with the wrong type of people! Maybe you just need to change your economic standings and stop living in the slums with the gangbangers!

Makes me sad! Maybe we should pass the hat around for you liveordie!

Redneckcocosamville once again shows a complete lack of understanding.
He's talking about a car antenna you fool.

This law is as meaningless as the prior one. The murder and mayhem will continue unabated in Wasington DC and all the inner cities. Libs have all the answers - WHY?

It is a good thing these people are not in charge of our first amendment rights.

What would that look like? Hey, put this tape over your mouth. Count to 10 before you take it off to say anything.

The murder and mayhem will continue unabated in Washington DC and all the inner cities. Libs have all the answers - WHY?--

YEAH!

I seem to remember a time in American history where murder and mayhem was just fine and dandy when everyman was caring a sidearm!

I also know of some places in the world right now where murder and mayhem reign supreme ----- when every house is allowed an automatic rifle and grenades can be bought from street vendors!

Its just asinine to pretend that murder and mayhem will be abated in anyway by putting a gun in every man woman and childs hands ------ murder and mayhem will be the same, just with a boatload of accidental and mistaken shootings on top!

Just more evidence of how the Wingdings fail to think things thru to the end! Shit, most Bush Wingdings complain that a majority of Americans arent even qualified to vote ---- however they want to arm these very same people they say are morons!

On second thought --- what the fuck am I railing about!

GIVE THEM ALL A GUN!

"GIVE THEM ALL A GUN!"

Posted by Redneckville

Who is advocating that everyone is handed a gun?

"On second thought --- what the fuck am I railing about!"
--REDNECKVILLE

Good question!

"What I want to know is why you live in a place that in order to feel safe --- you need a gun in the car!

Sounds ridiculous!

I lived on the east side of San Jose all the way to Baltimore MD and NEVER felt as though I need to carry anything!

Maybe youre hangin with the wrong type of people! Maybe you just need to change your economic standings and stop living in the slums with the gangbangers!"

Posted by Redneckville

You're right. What was I thinking? I don't need a gun taped to my car's hood. (which isn't inside the car btw)

I'm just thankful that someone with your kind of San Jose street cred is here to show me the way.

"On second thought --- what the fuck am I railing about!"
--REDNECKVILLE

Sounds about right. Where is the ACLU on this one? I thought they defended peoples' constitutional rights? I guess their lawyers are too busy trying to get voting rights for felons down in Alabama.

Posted by JOE at 2008-07-23 08:21 PM | Reply | Flag

...yeah, give them a few days. They'll stop this one also.

Redneckcocosamville once again shows a complete lack of understanding.
He's talking about a car antenna you fool.

Posted by 101Chairborne

I don't know what shitbox you drive, but mine is inside the windscreen.

If we all actually lived in a free market where everyone's life had value and at liberty to pursue their own happiness, guns would be just another sporting tool, which like cars would surrender a few lives to accidents.

Nothing even remotely close to this is in place in this country anymore. And nowhere is that more obvious than Washington DC, with the highest murder rate in our Nation. The need for lotsa police, guardsman, Courts and prisons is a consequence of legilated inequity, which the masses are keenly aware of in their daily lives, yet unable to define and organize in order to correct. Instead they just act rashly and foolishly targeting other innocent people instead of the root of the problem.

Meanwhile, thieves that have legalized their selfish schemes, build bigger walls and weapons, so that they can continue to rape pillage and plunder.

I'm just thankful that someone with your kind of San Jose street cred is here to show me the way.

Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2008-07-24 11:28 AM | Reply

YEAH!

Now thats fucking Funny!

FF for you!

They haven't come to grips with the fact, the constitution won and they lost.

I thought SCOTUS said gun lock laws weren't constitutional, dumb as that decision was. Like Scalia said, SCOTUS' ruling wouldn't end the debate.

So where do you guys keep your loaded weapons? By the door, on the nightstand or both? Got kids?

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-07-23 11:07 PM |

Well, my kid is too young for a gun, so he has a loaded slingshot in his room.

As for my cousin, you wouldn't dare break into his house. All his kids hunt with dad. They all have rifles of their own and they know how to load them.

Now, I don't know if they ARE loaded in their rooms, but they know how to fire a gun and they are responsible with them.

It's matter of how you raise your kids around guns and where the bad guy is.

The article has it wrong.

Having the gun unloaded and disassembled or locked, was the OLD law.

The SCOTUS sided with Heller, and found this to be un-constitutional.

My 6 year old has his own gun, knows how to load it and knows how to use it. We keep loaded, ready to shoot guns all over the house, and we don't worry about intruders. BTW - my husband builds guns, so our family is well versed in how and when to use them.

"The article has it wrong.

Having the gun unloaded and disassembled or locked, was the OLD law.

The SCOTUS sided with Heller, and found this to be un-constitutional."

Wrong.

You do know you can always move somewhere else dont you?! I mean, if I was under the eminent threat of being murdered or raped as apparently you are ---- I would move.

If you dont live there ---- go whine somewhere else about how a republic works.

Posted by Redneckville at 2008-07-24 10:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

I can move to wherever the fuck I want fuckstick but I am happy to live right where I am.
I don't live in a crime zone so don't make any of your idiotic assumptions.
I have used my gun exactly twice,once to kill two dogs attacking and once for some assholes who thought they could help themselves to my equipment.
The sight of my 12 gage and a 290lb 6'2 telling them to get the fuck down and wait for the cops was all they needed to live.
If they didn't at least one of them would have recieved a full load of buckshot.
You yourself have stated you own guns you fucking pussy hypocrit, and don't lecture me about how a republic works.
Fucking retard.
Watch out or i will get Goatman on your stupid sorry ass and watch you drop your YEAH and whine like the little fucking know nothing bitch you are.
You pathetic arrogant fuck, I always wonder how douche bags like you manage to live so long.

rwd

"The sight of my 12 gage and a 290lb 6'2 telling them to get the fuck down and wait for the cops was all they needed to live."
--RIGHTWINGDON

Could they even see the 12 gauge?

I'm big, but make no mistake, they see'd.

rwd

I am just asking because I know next to nothing about guns.......

Posted by danni

Right, there's a plethora of more painful methods of execution that spark your interest.

Joe: Sounds like DC is working within the SCOTUS ruling.

Lesson to us all-read the article before posting.

I know it is a fallacy to make a judgement based on personal experience, or something...

But I've been in a lot of places in my life.. and the ones where you can't legally carry a gun.. you had damned well BETTER.. and the places you CAN carry a gun? You don't have to.

"The sight of my 12 gage and a 290lb 6'2 telling them to get the fuck down and wait for the cops was all they needed to live."
--RIGHTWINGDON

Could they even see the 12 gauge?

Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

Typical big guy having to provide the size of his gage.

It's no wonder they were afraid you'd shoot.

The bad guy always makes the first move. It is always their decision when to attack. You rgun is worthless if someome want you, or what you have.

You are walking down the street--with your loaded weapon with you. Someone pulls a gun on you and says--give me your weapon--what do you do--what do you do.

You answer the door of your home with your gun in your hand. You open the door to find someone has their gun already pointed at your head. They say "drop your gun"--what do you do--what do you do.

Your gun is only good for defense if you know what the offense is going to do. As long as bad guys have the first move, your gun is worthless, and an incentive for break ins--and guess what--bad guys always have the first move. Chances are they will steal your gun and use it against you or in another crime. Only unthnking pussies think a gun is good for defense. I guess they forgot about Waco and Ruby Ridge. Having those guns for protection was a big help. Ever wonder how it would have turned out if there weren't any guns there?

"Your gun is only good for defense if you know what the offense is going to do."

Awww, gee, Boob. Even children can figure it all out better than you. You need to stick to analyzing moon landing videos.

"Butte, Montana November 5, 2007.

Two illegal aliens, Ralphael Resindez, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two-story home.

It seems the two would-be crooks never learned two things. They were in Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine.

Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed his 12-gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun.

Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buckshot from the 11-year-old's knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals.

When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive."

" Chances are they will steal your gun and use it against you or in another crime. "

Or, you shoot the sucker before they do. Then, you pick up their gun and empty into them.

"Ever wonder how it would have turned out if there weren't any guns there?"

If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will own guns.
Guns exist. If they aren't made legally, outlaws will make them illegally.

" Chances are they will steal your gun and use it against you or in another crime. "

Or, you shoot the sucker before they do. Then, you pick up their gun and empty into them.

I guess you missed the part about the bad guys making the first move. I bet yuou miss a lot.

"Ever wonder how it would have turned out if there weren't any guns there?"

I guess that was too tough for you.

If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will own guns.
Guns exist. If they aren't made legally, outlaws will make them illegally.

If they make bank robbing illegal--only outlaws will rob banks. The thousands that die every year in this country will keep on dying for thousands upon thousands of years in the future if humans survive that long. You can take all the guns off the streets. It might take a hundred years, but sooner or later, the problem will be solved. But doing nothing will have us in the same boat we are then as we are now.

The sight of my 12 gage and a 290lb 6'2 telling them to get the fuck down and wait for the cops was all they needed to live.

rwd

Err, say, did I ever apologize to you for our little flamewar the other week, or, or, or anything else I may ever have done to upset you? Mea culpa there, big guy. (grin)

"Butte, Montana November 5, 2007.

Two illegal aliens, Ralphael Resindez, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two-story home.

It seems the two would-be crooks never learned two things. They were in Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine.

Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed his 12-gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun.

Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buckshot from the 11-year-old's knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals.

When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive."

Posted by jestgettinalong at 2008-07-25 01:00 PM |

Link? Your scenario is a lie. Seems like you don't know what you are talking about. Here--educate yourself about your bullshit story.

BuffaloBob

So what if the Butte, Montana story above happened to be an internet myth, there are more than enough stories like it that are true. Here's one you don't need to go back into the archives to pull out. It happened only last month.

Three innocent people in San Francisco, California are dead because of the slimy far left liberal Mayor of San Francisco -- who declared SF an illegal alien 'sanctuary city" -- is directly responsible for the cold blooded murders of 3 American citizens -- a father and his two young sons who were driving home from a picnic. They were shot down in their car in a road rage dispute with an illegal alien MS-13 gangmember -- who had been brought up on other charges before but because 'sanctuary cities' protect these thugs nothing was done and he, AGAIN, was set free to prey on innocent people.

Do you know what the father (driver of the car) did to upset the illegal alien thug who murdered him and his family? The father accidentally blocked the illegal alien's car from being able to make a left hand turn. Even though the father backed up his car to allow the illegal's car to make the left that wasn't good enough for this gangbanger because he got out of his car and went up to them and killed them all anyway. This is an illegal that shouldn't even have been driving on our streets in the first place. (And to think Obama wants to give all illlegals -- including hardcore gangbangers -- a driver's license if he gets elected.)

Do you think if there was a gun in the glove compartment of the family's car that maybe one of the three murdered people may have been able to kill this MS-13 gangbanger before he was able to finish off the entire family? Most likely. But they weren't carrying any gun for protection and were slaughtered as they sat in their car.

BuffaloBob

Here is a more complete full editorial of the same story I spoke about above. Where are all the bleeding heart liberals to speak on behalf of these three murder victims?

Calfchris

Maybe you are missing the point if this thread. Your story is more on my side. If there weren't any guns there--what would have happened?

If it weren't for the gun nuts, the gang member couldn't have picked up his gun so cheap and easy.

You seem to think that more guns makes you safer--you are mistaken.

Guns are for cowards and stupid people. Gun rights people are more responsible for those deaths than anyone else. They put the gun in the punks hands, and they'll fight to keep the guns in the hand of gang members and terrorists.