Apparently Uribe gets legal advice from those in the United States who believe the Geneva Conventions are "quaint." And this is the guy that want to change the constitution (again) to be re elected (again) ?

Well, time to belly up folks.

Either you want strict adherence to the Geneva Conventions or to let some things slide.

Careful which road you choose. It's a slippery slow.

Sorry Ms. Bentancourt we will have to return you to your captors.

the end justifies the means.

We need to know more about the story.

Until then, I'm not wearing my Red Cross t-shirt when traveling through FARC-controlled territory.

the end justifies the means. Posted by 08r4ever

What a good little Marxist.

What a good little Marxist.

Posted by OzarkAggie

Ironic comment since it is the FARC who are lefties. They use that same logic "the ends justifies the mean" when they kidnap people to get money for keep fueling their campaign of terror.

the end justifies the means.

Posted by 08r4ever

That type of short sighted vision will get red cross workers murdered.

War crime?????????

Impersonating the Red Cross is like torture or wanton killing????????

Give me a fucking break.

All I know is that when a Marine finally does walk out of the mountains of Afghanistan with Bin Laden's head on a metal Pike, (which by the way they all want to do, because they know 95 percent of Americans will carry them around on their shoulders, some of them have even talked about shooting each other in the knee, so the one with good knees gets the glory)which one of you whiney , anti-american, government teet sucking, dope smoking, child-molesting, Lefties are going to want them tired as a "war-criminal" and by the way, isn't it You weirdos that say it is not a war..So how could it be a "war-crime"..Hey Pelosi......Drill you stupid..Bitch

well, that bribe of $20 million to Farc while McCain was there suggests he was the bag man:>)

Yes. Now people in hot zones will shoot the red cross for fear that someone may be using it to gain a military advantage.

Congratulations @ssholes.

That type of short sighted vision will get red cross workers murdered.

Exactly. You can't conduct military operations in the guise of a relief organization. It's a terrible precedent to break, no matter how worthy the cause.

"That type of short sighted vision will get red cross workers murdered."

This needs to be repeated every time some bonehead defends this foolishly limited strategy.

Does no one wonder why FARC would assume noting unusual about the Red Cross flying their hostages around? Uribe has claimed repeatedly that so-called humanitarian groups operating in the area are little more than fronts for the rebels.

I'd like to see someone investigate the Red Cross's actions in Colombia, to see if perhaps they've brought the rain down on themselves, as it were.

" Uribe has claimed repeatedly that so-called humanitarian groups operating in the area are little more than fronts for the rebels."

Who would believe him? He's a terrorist himself.

All I know is that when a Marine finally does walk out of the mountains of Afghanistan with Bin Laden's head on a metal Pike,

Given that bin laden is in Pakistan, don't hold your breath. Then again, please hold your breath. It's considered a WMD.

Wearing a red cros emblem on a shirt during the course of a rescue operation is morally equivalent to cutting off the heads of captives.

Warmest regards, Liberal assholes.

"Careful which road you choose. It's a slippery slow."

Slope? No, probably slow. Goddam spelling Nazis...

"...the end justifies the means" ... "What a good little Marxist."

More nitpicking, I guess, but Repubs and Bushies seeking the world's oil put ends ahead of means. Not Marxists. Marxists mostly have morals.

"Impersonating the Red Cross is like torture or wanton killing?"

No. But it will get you executed for espionage.

"which one of you whiney , anti-american, government teet sucking, dope smoking, child-molesting, Lefties are going to want them tired as a "war-criminal" and by the way, isn't it You weirdos that say it is not a war..So how could it be a "war-crime"..

Whatever the hell THAT means: No comment. I'm tried (sic). herm

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

The world is getting so dumb it's actually entertaining now.

Given that bin laden is in Pakistan, don't hold your breath.
Posted by northguy3

all the fake ones, right?:>)

We need to know more about the story.

Until then, I'm not wearing my Red Cross t-shirt when traveling through FARC-controlled territory

~Doc Sarvis

Spud's with Doc on this one.

Hell, Spud'll even go one step further.

Spud won't wear his FARC t-shirt when he goes to give blood either!

The misuse of the Red Cross fer cover in the operation to retrieve Ms Betancourt from the bat shiat crazy fookers of FARC must, of course, be decried as not playing by the Marquis of Queensbury's rules and all that.

That sed, the fact that this poor woman that they got back has largely been tied to a tree fer the last few years makes Spud not want to criticise them too badly.

After all the Columbian government did apologise.

"NUTCASE".... You dumb fuck, the use of the RED CROSS symbol, means something in this World. The Columbians have put Thousands of Red Cross workers in danger. If you can't see that you are to Fucking dumb to be on the WEB so get the fuck out.............

WTF? More rules in war! They got them from terrorists! Who cares how they did it? I am positive the terrorist play by the rules too!

Sorry madam, but you have to go back, it will only be for a few more short years, at least until the libruls try getting your release through diplomacy, or talking greatly out their asses.
And the asshole with the red cross on his shirt will have to go to.

"...I am positive the terrorist play by the rules too!...Posted by Unclesam"

Someone MUST play by rules. Otherwise there are no rules. But I must guess that you are another right-wing bat-shitter who thinks the Constitution is 'Just a Goddamn Piece of Paper'

Send her back. Return to the status quo ante.

Don't trick terrorists or "insurgents."

How can the criminal violators of the Geneva Conventions be properly punished? Got it. Let's use some lefties as surrogates, let the lefties be the whipping boys and flog them. That will demonstrate to the insurgents how distressed the rescuers are concerning this violation.

What do you lefties suggest? That Betancourt be returned? After all, there are "rules." These are all "games." Where is the Marquess of Queensbery when you need him?

There are no rules in love or war. Get with the program.

Apparently Uribe gets legal advice from those in the United States who believe the Geneva Conventions are "quaint." And this is the guy that want to change the constitution (again) to be re elected (again) ?

Posted by member2586 at 2008-07-18 09:22 AM

And that would include Pineapple head in Venazuela..

I am waiting for Herm to name one Marxist that was moral and didn't kill the populace?

So why is the Red Cross working with FARC?

We should use this same tactic to get close to OBL and kill his ass!

Great IDEA!!

The leftists want Saddam returned to power--oh wait--he's dead.

We should use this same tactic to get close to OBL and kill his ass!

Great IDEA!!

The leftists want Saddam returned to power--oh wait--he's dead.

Posted by MURPHY

yep, lets...Now which Saddam look alike is being brought back to power?

Osama bin Laden:
A dead nemesis perpetuated by the US government

"The leftists want Saddam returned to power--oh wait--he's dead.

Posted by MURPHY "

Is it possible for you to make a single post without saying something utterly stupid?

Ransom claim in Ingrid Betancourt release
The Colombian government said that she was freed in an audacious operation after the military tricked Farc into handing the French-Colombian politician over without a shot being fired.
But quoting "reliable sources", Swiss Radio reported that a ransom was paid of around $20m (10m).

"Was McCain (down there when this all happened) the bag man? - M. R."

Key word..."TERRORIST."... or insurgent, or "freedom fighter" or anything else.

Last I checked, FARC is not a sovereign nation, they are a criminal organization. This is a retarded concept and it has nothing to do with the Geneva Convention. Unless Uribe, the legitimate leader of a sovereign nation believes that the US illegally invaded Columbia to help pull off the rescue, which is ridiculous, no war crimes were committed.

"The ends justify the means" eh? Guess that excuses hundreds of years of slavery so slave owners could wallow in prosperity. Inhumane labor conditions at the turn of the century? Justifiable! It brought great rewards to robber barons! Nazis experimenting on Jews in the guise of "research?" Guess that's justifiable too.

"I am waiting for Herm to name one Marxist that was moral and didn't kill the populace?"

Murph, I hardly know where to start. Maybe Stalin and Mao led regimes that killed people, but gulags and re-education camps were also their weapons of choice. I don't know if Pol Pot was technically a Marxist or not, but he felt he had a lot of wrongs to avenge. I'm not sure about Marxist underlings like Beria, but I guess you must include him. I might suggest that the other billions killed no one, but I'd say that the ball is in Murph's court. Name me some homicidal commies, Murph. herm

".....posed as members of a fictitious aid group...."

Exactly Valis. I also wonder why FARC trusted a charity to move their prisoners for them.

That the rebels would be trusting an "aid group" to move their hostages for them means that they are working together.

I mean, these terrorists were used to having aid groups help them. I wonder if any United Nations 'aid group' has ever done anything like this.

These FARC terrorists weren't at all surprised that members of an aid group were flying their hostages around and many of the leftists on this page are simply upset that the Red Cross symbol was used to free hostages.

Wow.

Probably just upset that their comrades lost their hostages.

Maybe Stalin and Mao led regimes that killed people, but gulags and re-education camps were also their weapons of choice. I don't know if Pol Pot was technically a Marxist or not, but he felt he had a lot of wrongs to avenge. I'm not sure about Marxist underlings like Beria, but I guess you must include him. I might suggest that the other billions killed no one, but I'd say that the ball is in Murph's court. Name me some homicidal commies, Murph. herm

It would be much quicker and easier to name Communist regimes that weren't murderous, as opposed to those that were/are.

Also, murder is only part of the equation. Countless people enslaved into a fucked up system. Hell, Cubans are willing to affix makeshift pontoons to 20-year old rusted-out shells of automobiles to try and float 90 miles of treacherous ocean just to reach US soil.

"I am waiting for Herm to name one Marxist that was moral and didn't kill the populace?"

KARL MARX

:>)

LOL Bani. That was good.

thxs!

Marx Brothers Mirror Scene

I just got back to the rig today. No youtube.com for me for 2 weeks.

rcade didn't agree that "the end justifies the means," "You can't conduct military operations in the guise of a relief organization. It's a terrible precedent to break, no matter how worthy the cause."

The real Red Cross learned that lesson the hard way in Baghdad about five years ago.

NUTCASE".... You dumb fuck, the use of the RED CROSS symbol, means something in this World. The Columbians have put Thousands of Red Cross workers in danger. If you can't see that you are to Fucking dumb to be on the WEB so get the fuck out.............

Posted by celisary

Can you feel the love (not to mention the "change" we can believe in) from your typical Barry supporter????

The leftists want Saddam returned to power--oh wait--he's dead.

Posted by MURPHY

You get two ankles up for that post.

Irrelevant stupid kneejerk flag.

Hell, Cubans are willing to affix makeshift pontoons to 20-year old rusted-out shells of automobiles to try and float 90 miles of treacherous ocean just to reach US soil.

Posted by JeffJ

And Chinese are willing to suffocate in filth strewn cargo containers to get here.

Your point being?

Considering FARC does not belong to any recognized government, doesn't follow the Geneva Conventions themselves and doesn't represent anyone aside from drug dealers it seems like a broad interpretation of the Geneva Conventions to say these rules apply when dealing with them.

'CLINTONISKING'...His name is Barack Obama I know that you RACISCT PRICKS find that hard to swallow but ASSHOLE get used to it!!! That will be President to you DICKHEAD, yes PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA, sounds good doesn't it??????

BARACK OBAMA, sounds good doesn't it??????

Posted by celisary

that would be Barack HUSSEIN Obama