He lives in a big inefficient house, therefore what he says isn't true.
- Conservative Logic

Who is Al Gore(MAX HEADROOM) ....and....who cares what he says. He has made a cool $100 Million+ on his carbon thing.

I am for alt energy.....kick the grid to the curb.

Gore is using his political influance and pushing very hard to promote his carbon credit investment firm. I think he's taking his cues from Chaney.

I don't know which one is worse?

THAT Lousy MF was in the senate How Long? and Vice-President How long? and now...Now that he can make 100 million dollars spouting off about something he did nothing about when he had the power too!!!! F YOU AL GORE YOU BIG TUB OF HYPOCRITICAL LARD

YOU AL GORE YOU BIG TUB OF HYPOCRITICAL LARD

Posted by HillBillyJihad

ff

Mamalo pinche

A recent Conversation at the Gore house-hold;

Al; bbzzzzz, bzzzzzz, zzzzzzz, mmmmmmmm, mzmzmzzzzzzz

Tipper; Al, it's my turn to use it now.

the end.

Don't waste your time waiting for Gore to lead the way by making his home carbon free.

He lives in a big inefficient house, therefore what he says isn't true.
- Conservative Logic

Wrong, rasta. Conservatives (well, any thinking person's) logic is:

"He lives in a big inefficient house, therefore he is a hypocrite."

I've never once heard anyone say what he says is wrong simply because of where he lives. They may say he is wrong but it is for other reasons -- mainly we scarcely have a clue about climatology and what makes it work.

"I've never once heard anyone say what he says is wrong simply because of where he lives."

Of course not. They simply skip the whole factual bit and attack Gore personally in place of an actual argument.

"mainly we scarcely have a clue about climatology and what makes it work."

Posted by goatman

Speak for your tiny little self, IT boy.
When you go to your rig, the average IQ of Texas doubles.

It's such fun watching a pretentious technician pretend he has a brain.

See you on Aldeberon

Goatman-
Do you also agree with W that the "jury's still out" on natural selection?

BetelG,

Your right, I don't have an argument...

I will do as he suggested, follow his example of a carbon neutral lifestyle....

Of course not. They simply skip the whole factual bit and attack Gore personally in place of an actual argument.

Well, since Gore refuses to debate the issue, I guess that's the best they can do.

I know that's the best they can do. It seems to be the best you can do as well.

BTW, whom should he debate?

Speak for your tiny little self, IT boy

You yourself have said that we have about 400,000 years of data. The earth is 4.5 g yrs old. If the earth was 1 day old that represents a few seconds of data.

I think we need more data.

When you go to your rig, the average IQ of Texas doubles

Wow. what a witty retort. I don't think I've ever heard that one before. Dazzle us some more, zat with your witticisms.

Andrea-
Now, don't get carried away...

Do you also agree with W that the "jury's still out" on natural selection?

???

Why did this questin pop out of the blue and specifically addressed to me? How bizarre.

I believe in natural selection, but I am amazed your ancestors somehow made it through the gauntlet.

Do you also agree with W that the "jury's still out" on natural selection?

Posted by BetelG

There is no natural selection in the human in the western world. We protect the stupid and weak, not let the wolves get them.

If I put a whirlybird wind turbine thing in my backyard and hook it up to the house--will the lights come on?

Goatman-
Mine are yours, Goatman.....but I'm glad to hear that you're not nutty across the board.

It's such fun watching a pretentious technician pretend he has a brain.

next up: the sun goes away when god gets tired...

Mine are yours, Goatman.....

Really? Where did you get my genealogical charts?

Sniper-
re: "There is no natural selection in the human in the western world. We protect the stupid and weak, not let the wolves get them."

You should convince those in your community to fire the police and stop enforcing the law.

Al Gore doesn't live like a hermit or pauper therefore he is unqualified to talk about climate change.

Sincerely,

The Right Wing Moonbats.

"Really? Where did you get my genealogical charts?"

Don't be an idiot for a few posts, okay?

"You yourself have said that we have about 400,000 years of data. The earth is 4.5 g yrs old. If the earth was 1 day old that represents a few seconds of data.

I think we need more data. "

By that logic we should settle for nothing less than another 400,000 years of data. After all, it's just a few seconds.

Al Gore doesn't live like a hermit or pauper therefore he is unqualified to talk about climate change.

Sincerely,

The Right Wing Moonbats.

Posted by 726

You raise a good point regarding shooting the messenger, 726. At the same time though, don't you see the guy's hypocrisy of bemoaning carbon consumption while at the very same time having an almost unfathomable carbon footprint? The whole do as I say not as I do thing.

Just showing my ignorance here, but what does "4.5 g yrs old" mean?

Al Gore doesn't live like a hermit or pauper therefore he is unqualified to talk about climate change.

Sincerely,

The Right Wing Moonbats.

Gee there seems to be a lot of Gore apologists out tonight. And they all need correcting.

Al Gore's extravagant lifestyle which includes a private jet leaves a carbon footprint hundreds of times the average American, but he wants us, not himself to cutback.

I don't know about you, 726, but I don't have a private jet, a 10,000 ft^2 house and a power bill 10x the average and I don't live like a pauper either.

what does "4.5 g yrs old" mean?

My guess is that it means a typo of some sort.

JeffJ-
I see hypocrisy in Gore's life, but then again when we go green there will still be rich people. We capitalists are just going to have to get used to it, alas.

Goat,

I beat ya to it!

Look, I don't buy anything a fucking commie like algore says. I do however, believe in not giving the power company and gas station any more money than I have to. Therefo , I buy piggly wiggly light bulbs, not those fucking blue light pieces of shit that strain your eyes, just about converted my whole casa over to the general purpose style, I like em, if they save me a buck at the end of the night, then great.I am keeping my air conditioner set at 80 degrees. Only use the air in my vehicle when it gets unbearable. It is just a matter of time before the power companies start raping Americans for their dollars, we know the playbook, subtle brownouts, hours long power failures, longer brownouts , blackouts , then the power companies start whining about needing more money, then they tell us to drop our drawers and grab our ankles, it's a liberal textbook play, coming to an outlet near you.

g = giga = 10^9 = 1 billion

4.5 g yrs = four and a half billion years

Hey...thought it might be somethin' new I wasn't aware of. Just to clear things up entirely, though. What letter did you intend to type...

FTA: Were borrowing money from China to buy oil from the Persian Gulf to burn it in ways that destroy the planet,-- Mr. Gore said. Every bit of thats got to change.--

He's right.

Ten Years is a little bit optimistic but the goal of working towards cleaner, renewable energy while weaning the US of of non-renewable foreign-owned oil addiction is laudable, doable and ultimately inevitable if sustainability in the long term is gonna happen.

Otherwise it's gonna be a hand-lettered invitation to a shitstorm of global proportions.

Chaos au go go.

Do. Not. Want.

Be Well.

I always just called then billions. I'm also always the last to hear about this stuff.

By that logic we should settle for nothing less than another 400,000 years of data

When making bold statements about global climatology on this planet, I agree

but then again when we go green there will still be rich people. We capitalists are just going to have to get used to it,

Hopefully, we won't go green any time soon.

For the time being, oil is by far the most cost-effective source of energy available to us, nuclear notwithstanding. Even with current fuel prices, this is still the case. Those who will be hurt the most by 'going green' are the poor. The rich can absorb the added costs of 'going green'. The poor, not so much.

g =1 billion?

I did not know that.

Learn something new every day.

When making bold statements about global climatology on this planet, I agree

One of global warming alarmism's biggest cheerleaders, NASA, is predicting a 20-30 year cooling trend due to solar inactivity. It may have already started. In the last year we saw an unprecedented drop in global temps.

g =1 billion?

As in 'gigabyte', e.g.

For what it's worth, I've been noticing that the summer here in Jersey is not as hot as last year. That may bear on reports that earth has been cooling for the past four years or so.

If I put a whirlybird wind turbine thing in my backyard and hook it up to the house--will the lights come on?

It makes sense, Goat.

I'd just never seen a billion abbreviated in that manner before.

Discovery had the program that predicts we are in for cooling and possible mini ice age.

The ice caps melting into the oceans mess with the salt content and then comes the glaciers.

Ray,

We had a very long, cold, snow-filled winter here in Michigan last year. The one bonus was with all of that snow, lake levels rose a bit - they had been dropping steadily for about 20 years.

I get it, Goatman. The customary usage with years is to use "billions", anything else is nerdy and pretentious.

OK. Nerdy isn't bad.

So I just killed a black widow with the Windex!

I get it, Goatman. The customary usage with years is to use "billions", anything else is nerdy and pretentious.

Posted by BetelG

You can always rely on Beteljuice to hone in on something irrelevant in lieu of addressing the points at hand.

Murphy-
You'd be amazed to learn that most people who kill a "black widow" with Windex don't really kill a black widow.

Trust me Betel--it's dead..

So I just killed a black widow with the Windex!

"Now I am not knocking your black widow. It's just that the funnel web spider can kill a man in six seconds, just by looking at him." - Crocodile Dundee

FF for Jeff

JeffJ-
OK. Here was a point at hand a moment ago: Who should Gore debate (if he's not chicken)?

Goatman wouldn't say.

Murphy-
I'm sure it's dead. Whatever it is.

The customary usage with years is to use "billions", anything else is nerdy and pretentious.

I do it because '1g' takes fewer keystrokes than '1,000,000,000' or 'one billion'.

But if want to turn my shorthand into a denigration, go for it betelg. I don't give a fuck.

Damn!

You southerners have all sorts of nasty and treacherous critters to deal with.

Here in Michigan the most venomous animal we have is the Water Moccasin (snake) and they are far from lethal.

We do have a shitload of mosquitos, though. The mosquito is our state bird.

Gore's dream car?

An Air Car You Could See in 2009: ZPMs 106 MPG Compressed-Air Hybrid

Snakes are much better than mosquitos.

Who should Gore debate (if he's not chicken)?

Any scientist who supports the theory that man-made carbon emmissions have a negligible effect on climate change.

Used to live in Descanso--rural--

We had every kind of critter--couldn't stand it.

A turantula in the cupboard, a friggin lizard in the shower (a real lizard), attacked by a gazillion caterpillars--they were everywhere--coming down the chimney! Went on vacation and came home after four days and there were freakin a million Daddy Long Leg spiders--in the house!!

Snakes are much better than mosquitos.

For the most part, yes.

The customary usage with years is to use "billions", anything else is nerdy and pretentious.

Posted by BetelG at 2008-07-17 09:16 PM

Don't be an idiot for a few posts, okay?

Posted by BetelG at 2008-07-17 08:50 PM |

Does the 'G' in betelG stand for Gore, as in do as I say, not what I do?

The phenomena of global warming is recognized world wide.

It makes me Roll On The Floor Laugh Out Loud to see that many Americans still debate this point. I believe has more to do with politics than science in America.

Lots of people in America also do not like Al Gore.

Al Gore wants to make us pay for the fact that we didn't want him for president. He wants to fuck up our cars, SUV's, and electricity. He would be happy if we became a third world country, while he flys around in his GulfStream, polishes his fleet of SUV's and has the A/C turned up full blast in his 30,000 sq. ft. mansion in Tennessee. As asshole libs go, he is the biggest.

Why do you even bother, Betel? You're just going to get one inane statement after another, like the one about genealogical charts.

The phenomena of global warming has nothing to do with Al Gore. He simply has helped make the rest of the world more aware of this problem.

I do not think his goal is to punish you and make you pay for not electing him President. I hope you would agree that sounds foolish.

Why do you even bother, Betel? You're just going to get one inane statement after another, like the one about genealogical charts.

What praytell is inane about challenging the theory of man-made global warming from a scientific standpoint?

Jeff--

Is this your mosquito in MI?

Allah,

I think, for the most part, that Al Gore believes what he is bloviating about.

the most venomous animal we have is the Water Moccasin

Most likely a Copperhead which is not a true water moccasin. They can swim (like most snakes) but can't strike under water. A Cottonmouth can and does so aggressively.

also the younger the snake the more potent its venom.

The difference is the ability to close the throat with the mouth open fangs bared blocking the water. Non-poisonous water snakes have the same ability and some can be pretty vicious.

like the one about genealogical charts.

or like this one:

, anything else is nerdy and pretentious.

Never mind. That was betelG. But null doesn't mind it when betelg's posts are asinine (which is quite frequently!). Only mine for some reason.

Oh well.

Yes of course he believes. So do I. Almost everything I read in the newspapers agrees with him.

Looking at it another way, why would Mr. Gore lie? And if he were lying, why would so many respected scientists at the U.N. agree with him so whole heartedly?

Murph,

If that thing were bigger, it would look like a mosquito in Michigan.

Ozark,

I could be wrong, but I don't think the Copperhead is indiginous to Michigan. To the best of my knowledge, the water moccasin is.

We do have a shitload of mosquitos, though. The mosquito is our state bird.

Posted by JeffJ

I thought it was ours in Minnesota...well, we got lots of Michigin ticks this year:>)

Using energy better and smarter is a good thing.

Just don't shut down the economy to get there.

And don't try and sell us the scam Carbon Credit BS--

Here give me your money and I'll plant a tree to offset your carbon.

We need CO2--guess we should stamp out humans since we exhale it.

Some country is going to tax the farmers for their cows farting!

It's a scam and people are trying to make money off it. The scientists gets gov't grants to say there is a crisis.

All bureaucratic horse manure...

Gore talks the talk but he doesn't walk the walk, he keeps telling us we are all destroying the planet by our excessive energy use and yet he has a 10K sguare foot house...., way to go Al, if you want to walk the walk, don't buy stuff, don't use energy, dry your clothes on a line in the garden, use fans, grow your own veggies, don't use pesticides, insecticides, herbicides, you name it. Gore is the hypocrit of the first order, I mean really, I will listen to him the nano-second that he moves into a 1200 square foot house powered entirely by solar panels, until then, fuck him.

Gore talks the talk but he doesn't walk the walk, he keeps telling us we are all destroying the planet by our excessive energy use and yet he has a 10K sguare foot house...., way to go Al, if you want to walk the walk, don't buy stuff, don't use energy, dry your clothes on a line in the garden, use fans, grow your own veggies, don't use pesticides, insecticides, herbicides, you name it. Gore is the hypocrit of the first order, I mean really, I will listen to him the nano-second that he moves into a 1200 square foot house powered entirely by solar panels, until then, fuck him.

Bani,

You are actually correct. Those buggers are even worse in Minnesota than in Michigan, and that's really saying something.

So it is Mr. Gores hypocrisy which irritates? Yes. That I can understand.

I heard the mosquito was Alaska's State Bird..

That sucker (ar ar) really gets around..

Looking at it another way, why would Mr. Gore lie?

He and his buddies (green technology peddlers) benefit from global warming alarmism. Follow the money.

Difference is that Betelg doesn't get into marathon posting contests over hair-splitting, semantic, or just plain trivial arguments. But if see a good reason to trash him I will.

The phenomena of global warming is recognized world wide.

Posted by allahakbar

it's the man made part that has some people bickering...

What Global Warming?
Fact: All history reveals that time after time this planet of ours has experienced periods of warming and periods of cooling. A century of slight global warming, about half a degree, ended in 1998.
Fact: In this century a global cooling has set in. In 2008 most of the northern hemisphere, except for Western Europe, is coming out of what most scientists say has been the harshest winter in decades.

Malta, Israel, China and India's New Delhi have been subjected to record low temperatures. In Afghanistan, more than 900 people and 316,000 head of cattle died as a result of bitter cold weather according to Reuters.

Allah,

I am not suggesting that Mr. Gore is lying.

I am suggesting that he is relying on what is likely bad information.

There is a difference.

right

It's a scam and people are trying to make money off it. The scientists gets gov't grants to say there is a crisis.

All bureaucratic horse manure...

I suppose it is possible that the scientists are wrong. I am not an expert on this phenomena, but it just does not seem likely.

Murphy - Regardless of whether the science is accurate or not, I have not encountered any rational scientist calling this a "Scam". It would appear you have taken so virulent a position on this issue that you feel it necessary to insult those you oppose.

"The scientists gets gov't grants to say there is a crisis."

Unlike those poor wraiths who labor for the pleasure of mere servitude under the cash starved global oil corporations and states.

GLOBAL WARMING - "The Greatest Scam in History"

Posted By: ChristopherBollyn
Date: Tuesday, 13 November 2007

I'm truly glad to be informed of the great pay inequities between scientists in college labs and those employed by the oil industry. You'd think everyone one would be just flocking to a career in academia for the dough you rake in....

Greenland Melting: The End of the End of the World
A Report From the Ground Zero of Global Warming

MARK BINELLIPosted Jul 10, 2008 11:51

GLOBAL WARMING - "The Greatest Scam in History"

I think the people who rail against its existence are just as idiotic as the people who insist it is here.

"In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend. "

Well, goatie, I sure a greater scam will be in the works by that time for sure as you & I go to our retirement vacation homes in Greenland perhaps:>)

Unlike those poor wraiths who labor for the pleasure of mere servitude under the cash starved global oil corporations and states.....
I'm truly glad to be informed of the great pay inequities between scientists in college labs and those employed by the oil industry. You'd think everyone one would be just flocking to a career in academia for the dough you rake in....

Solid premise (I am serious) - follow the money. However, you seem to only apply said premise to those who are harmed by global warming alarmism. Let's broaden that and apply it to those who benefit from global warming alarmism.

Fact is grant money is reflexively given to just about any "study" of global warming.

Going further - Green energy gets a huge boon from global warming hysteria. These are technologies that currently can't compete with oil in terms of energy efficiency. In the marketplace their sole form of existence is global warming alarmism. Tilt public opinion, vie for government handouts and seek punitive measures against oil producers via the gunpoint of government policy.

Then we have the creation of carbon credits (very much like the Catholic Church selling indulgences back in the day). Who benefits from carbon credits? Yup, Al Gore. What about the production of a movie hyping man-made global warming? Yup, once again, Al Gore.

We also have ethanol mandates. Who benefits here? "Big" agriculture - an industry that already sucks off the government teet. Now, ethanol produces CO2 just as petrol, but the public predominantly associates CO2 production with the burning of fossil fuels. So, "big" agriculture gets a HUGE boon from our government 'reacting' to global warming hysteria.

When we play the game of follow the money, the ones who can't compete on their own are typically the ones looking to government for help. That being the case, following the money does not bode well in support of global warming alarmism. Not at all.

I believe it gets warmer between 6:00 AM and 4:00 PM. I believe it gets warmer between March and August in the northern hemisphere. I believe it gets warmer every 26,000 years during certain phases of the precession of the equinoxes. I believe it gets warmer during certain phases of our solar system's bobbing above and below the galactic equator every ~3.7 million years. I also believe there are things we don't have a clue about that make this planet warmer.

Therefore it is outrageous to sit and listen to so called experts say there is or isn't global warming happening right now. How in the hell can they make that statement without all the facts?

When we play the game of follow the money, the ones who can't compete on their own are typically the ones looking to government for help. That being the case, following the money does not bode well in support of global warming alarmism. Not at all.

Posted by JeffJ

how are you doing with Lucky Larry Silverstein 'follow the money' routine?

Cheap shot?:>)

I see there is much skepticism. But if the scientists are correct, and global warming is advancing, do we not place our civilization in danger by not seeking to change our behaviors? I do not see the disadvantage of heeding the warnings.

do we not place our civilization in danger by not seeking to change our behaviors?

We place civilization in danger by making decisions and changes based on emotion and not fact.

What if we all gave up all technology, reverted to a pre-industrial lifestyle just to find out we had read the data wrong, or didn't have enough of it. We find out we were wrong all along and that the earth was actually cooling. We are fucked.

Facts, not emotions are what is needed here.

But if the scientists are correct,

That is one helluva caveat. Ignore the science, or lack of, and formulate policy based upon gut-instinct?

do we not place our civilization in danger by not seeking to change our behaviors? I do not see the disadvantage of heeding the warnings.

I do. Those warnings were largely responsible for ethanol mandates. Ethanol mandates have dramatically driving up the cost of food globally. We now have food riots as a result of this lunacy.

It is dangerous to invoke the power of government to intervene with the economy on a whim.

great minds and all that, jeff

That's twice in the same night, Goat.

Gotta run.

Later all.

Do great minds concede that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

Do great minds concede that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

It has been proven in controlled laboratory experiments that it is. I don't think anyone denies that.

Do great minds concede that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

Yes, but much less so than methane or water vapor. Also, what percentage of global CO2 production is man-made? Not much, by memory, less than 10%.

Also, greenhouse gases are far from the only variable affecting climate change.

Solar activity and inactivity seem to be more powerful variables that greenhouse gases.

It's kinda like building a big fire and at the last minute throwing some wood chips into the fire and then blaming said wood chips for the heat generated by the fire.

Fact is, global warming theory is predicated predominantly on computer modeling - it's only as good as the data fed in. In addition, global temperatures have only been measured for a little over 100 years.

Any more questions?

Well, if you do have them, Goat will have to answer, I've got to run.

JeffJ-
You think that heat from the sun is not considered? If so, then you only attribute your own careless stupidity to others, unfairly I should add.

Does the 'follow the money' rule apply to all potential scams?

Bani-
No.

except obvious ones, of course...like 911 & carbon credits, ethan~holy:>)lol

You think that heat from the sun is not considered? If so, then you only attribute your own careless stupidity to others, unfairly I should add.

I would certainly hope that solar heat is considered.

Do you have any other sharp rejoinders? I've made an awful lot of declarative statements on this thread. Certainly you can do better than parse scientific consideration of solar heat.

Or, maybe not.

the same time though, don't you see the guy's hypocrisy of bemoaning carbon consumption while at the very same time having an almost unfathomable carbon footprint? The whole do as I say not as I do thing.

Posted by JeffJ

Jeff,

I have to admit that when I see that Al Gore's mansion consumes 20x the energy of the average American home I am appalled.

But comparing a mansion to a average home is disingenous at best.

Hell why not compare the amount of energy usage of his mansion to the amount used by my tool shed? I am sure that it would be a lot more.

Now, that being said, Al and Tipper use the home for their offices as well as residence. I have to believe that they have some staff that work with them as well. Until the right compares his energy usage with what it would take to power an office and a mansion the size of his then the comparisons are just plain deceitful.

But then again the right has never been one to be honest in its "facts".

"Until the right compares his energy usage with what it would take to power an office and a mansion the size of his then the comparisons are just plain deceitful."

Exactly.

Do great minds concede that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

Yes, but much less so than methane or water vapor. Also, what percentage of global CO2 production is man-made? Not much, by memory, less than 10%

Gore is a wacko idiot moron. anyone that listens to this idiot is a bigger loser than he is..

"This goal is achievable, affordable and transformative"

Affordable for who?

"Until the right compares his energy usage with what it would take to power an office and a mansion the size of his then the comparisons are just plain deceitful."

???

Wouldn't it be more accurate to replace 'the right' in the above retort with 'global warming deniers'?

Oh. I forget. 100% of all democrats believe in global warming and 100% of republicans don't.

Goddam you sheeple sure have your mind in a rut that you just can't escape from, don't you? Here, have some Kool-aide and get back to your flock.

Until the right compares his energy usage ...

But then again the right has never been one to be honest in its "facts".

My irony meter just pegged

Until the right compares his energy usage with what it would take to power an office and a mansion the size of his then the comparisons are just plain deceitful."

How about if I compare my energy usage per passenger/mile when I fly with his? Is that a valid comparison?

Hey all you Texas bashers read this:

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - Texas, headquarters of America's oil industry, is about to stake a fortune on wind power.

In what experts say is the biggest investment in the clean and renewable energy in U.S. history, utility officials in the Lone Star State gave preliminary approval Thursday to a $4.9 billion plan to build new transmission lines to carry wind-generated electricity from gusty West Texas to urban areas like Dallas.

Texas is already the national leader in wind power, generating about 5,000 megawatts. But wind-energy advocates say the lack of transmission lines has kept a lot of that power from being put to use and has hindered the building of more turbines.

'Wouldn't it be more accurate to replace 'the right' in the above retort with 'global warming deniers'?'

Not really. From what I've seen very few people deny that global warming is occuring. Its a measurable fact. Not everyone agrees on the causes of global warming.

I personally believe that human activity is a strong contributing factor but I don't pretend to know for sure.

GOAT, I was not born here but my 3 boys were. I have lived in the PA, SC, FL and TX. All great states in their own way. All great people in their own way. Every state has something outstanding to offer and something to be ashamed of. TX has a great sense of rugged individualism and that suits me just fine.

"Until the right compares his energy usage with what it would take to power an office and a mansion the size of his then the comparisons are just plain deceitful."

Exactly.

Posted by Danforth at 2008-07-18 09:01 AM

I'll go along with that.
BUT
When he goes around forecasting DOOM...shouldn't he have the strength of his own convictions and...DOWNSIZE his own lifestyle?

If all the libs who gave lip service to Al Gore and his silly movie lived their lives in accordance with the Gorespel that spew out of their mouths, gasoline would be south of $3 a gallon, and you couldn't build public transportation fast enough. A third of the seats on passenger aircraft would be empty, and tens of millions of air conditioning units wouldn't run.

So, a quick survey of Gorebots on the DR: how many of you have adopted a lifestyle of "carbon-free power"? When we point out that Gore's own lifestyle choices are hypocritical, why is it wrong to bring it up? He is a decamillionaire who can more easily afford the carbon-free idiocy than, say, some guy who works in a bowling alley or a bottling plant. So why doesn't he?

Could it be that maybe he doesn't really believe it himself? Or, that what he thinks is good for you, shouldn't apply to him?

You libs love to point out religious and conservative leaders who get caught not practicing what they preach but you fail to apply the same standards to Gore.

Fuck Gore and the private jet he rode in on. Fucking hypocrite.

"When he goes around forecasting DOOM...shouldn't he have the strength of his own convictions and...DOWNSIZE his own lifestyle?"

Umm... No. He's rich. He should have 2 mansions and fly around in private jets.

The plebs should do with less.

There is no reconciling Gore's lifestyle with his rhetoric. His apologists are very silly little people.

"mainly we scarcely have a clue about climatology and what makes it work."

Posted by goatman

Speak for your tiny little self, IT boy.
When you go to your rig, the average IQ of Texas doubles.

Posted by Zatoichi

I guess you think you know just exactly how the climate for the earth works. I'll bet you even think you can change it.

With that thought in mind, your IQ must be at least 1.5

"your IQ must be at least 1.5"

Posted by Sniper

Missed by a couple of orders of magnitude, imbecile.

The Discovery of Global Warming

A hypertext history of how scientists came to (partly) understand what people are doing to cause climate change.

Gore lets his mask slip : Tax the poor more than the rich

Gore has let his mask slip. When Gore advocates that the single most important policy change would be to "tax what we burn - not what we earn", he really means we should shift the burden of taxation away from the rich capitalist towards the rest of society since a person earning ten million dollars doesn't burn one thousand times as much fuel as a person earning ten thousand.

World cooling but scientists insist that warming is real

Date: 05 April 2008
By Craig Brown
CLIMATOLOGISTS may insist the world is getting warmer and that climate change is here to stay.

But the meteorological phenomenon called La Nia, in which the central and eastern Pacific Ocean is getting cooler, means global temperatures will drop slightly this year.

But this year's temperatures would still be way above the average - and we would soon exceed the record year of 1998 because of global warming induced by greenhouse gases.

The phenomenon is sister to the better known El Nio, or the Little Boy, which appears when too little cold water rises to the ocean's surface, causing the planet's temperature to rise and bringing major disruption to weather systems.

La Nia has caused floods in Mozambique, and freezing temperatures in China.