Why not dump it in one of the volcanos! That lava is might hot, ya know!!! POOF gone problem solved!

With 80-85% of a green garbage bag's content that can either be recycled or composted, I don't understand why most people still even talk about landfilling.

Or you could just...

Obama's been here for years...

You're right, Pancho. There's no reason other than laziness for not composting and recycling our garbage. Stupidity doesn't even cut it anymore, since the problem is glaringly apparent.

Every city should have easily reachable centers where you, me, or the neighborhood kid looking to make a buck, can dump our boidegradables.

Hell, I used to compost a lot of my garbage in my own kitchen in the East Village for years. No big deal. My plants loved it.

Until we change the way we think about "the other person's problems", we'll continue to screw ourselves.

Dump it in the ocean. Fuck, it ain't that difficult.

Landfilling always incurs risks to drinking water quality, particularly for future generations. It is more ethical for people to assume the environmental cost of our modern life as they consume and discard. That's why garbage burning should be part of our alternative energy mix. The small amount of air pollution virtually eliminates future groundwater pollution. Garbage burning is particularly well suited to an isolated location such as Hawaii. Much more pleasant and efficient to tranship ash instead of raw garbage if it still came down to that.

The US environmental movement has been successfully fighting garbage burning for decades. They envision some kind of impossible risk free existence. Its a common practice in Japan and Europe.

"Why not dump it in one of the volcanos!"

Posted by ls738

Pele would not be pleased.

"Why not dump it in one of the volcanos!"

That was my first thought, too.

Just have reich-wingers vent their hatred of Libs at it-that'd pulverize anything....

In this day and age, it shocks me that a state would incur such costs to transport waste all that distance. Technoogical improvements in recylcing and methane capturing in landfills should be achievable. A state that prides itself on its natural beauty, could easily take the lead in developing programs to improve the environment and reduce our need of foreign oil at the same time improving their own economic outlook.

That's why garbage burning should be part of our alternative energy mix.

Posted by nutcase at 2008-07-15 01:08 PM | Reply |

Did a business case for one of my clients a while back which presented a direct comparison of landfilling (including methane recuperation for electric production), incineration and composting. Not surprisingly, compost came out way ahead. Incineration was excellent for hazardous materials (bios, medical-industrial waste, etc.) but only if the incineration was at ultra-high temperatures. The technology became very harmful when used to manage large volumes of household waste from air pollution (particles, gases, etc.) to the fact that you are diverting materials that could either have been recycled or composted. Add to that the energy required to burn the stuff and the sludge that is left over after the burn and all of a sudden, the option became non-sustainable. Landfilling was an embarrassing method explained by years of cheap land and cheaper officials: in 20 of the municipalities we studied, we found trails in 8 of them in terms of bribes and scandals between elected officials and waste management companies.

Send it to the Asian mainland. That's where most of it comes from anyway.

Garbage burning is particularly well suited to an isolated location such as Hawaii.

Given the large amounts of plastic that is in the garbage, there are serious dioxin and furan concerns with burning it, as well as the risk of other hazardous materials that people toss in it.

Make bricks out of it and build another island.

Apparently Starbucks isn't using the ABC Store model.

Just have reich-wingers vent their hatred of Libs at it-that'd pulverize anything....

Posted by frankf55 at 2008-07-15 01:47 PM |

Or you can bore it to dust with your glaring stupidity.

rwd

If Hawaii is shipping their trash to that mainland can't we ship our trash (republicans) to China?

"Hawaii is shipping their trash to that mainland"

Barack's from Hawaii.
So's Don Ho.
Coincidence?

Probably 80% Spam cans. That shit's recyclable, ain't it? Love Spam, btw (the meat[?] variety).

Tiny bubbles (tiny bubbles)
In the wine (in the wine)
Make me happy (make me happy)
Make me feel fine (make me feel fine)

Tiny bubbles (tiny bubbles)
Make me warm all over
With a feeling that I'm gonna
Love you till the end of time

So here's to the golden moon
And here's to the silver sea
And mostly here's a toast
To you and me

So here's to the ginger lei
I give to you today
And here's a kiss
That will not fade away

by Leon Pober.

PV,

I'd rather breath slightly contaminated air than eat vegetables grown in landfill compost.

Barack's from Hawaii.
So's Don Ho.
Coincidence?

We get dope from panama.
Mcsame's from Panama.

Coincidence?

I don't think so...