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The International Criminal Court filed genocide charges Monday against Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir. "Genocide is a crime of intention -- we don't need to wait until these 2.5 million die," Prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo told The Associated Press.

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"Dar-who?"- GW Bush

Sudan bids for UN to block Darfur prosecution


UNITED NATIONS - Sudan's ambassador says his nation will try to persuade the U.N. Security Council to block a prosecutor from pursuing genocide charges against the Sudanese president.

Abdalmahmood Abdalhaleem Mohamed, in an interview with The Associated Press, says Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir is weighing all options, including an undefined military response.

On Monday, the prosecutor asked the International Criminal Court for an arrest warrant for al-Bashir, charging him with orchestrating the deaths of people in Darfur.

Mohamed also says al-Bashir likely will visit the U.N. General Assembly in September, and that Sudan would consider any attempt to arrest him a declaration of war.

news.yahoo.com


Bring it on.

I wonder if the WH will even issue a statement on this considering I don't think they want to acknowledge the International Criminal Court as they may be called up next.


"Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir talks on a cell phone as he leaves a ceremony celebrating the approval of an election law that sets the guidelines for a key vote next year, in the capital Khartoum, Sudan, Monday, July 14, 2008. The prosecutor of the International Criminal Court filed genocide charges Monday against the Sudanese President, accusing him of masterminding attempts to wipe out African tribes in Darfur with a campaign of murder, rape and deportation, but Sudan rejected the charges and the court's jurisdiction,

>>> and one top lawmaker said his government could no longer guarantee the safety of United Nations staff in the troubled region."

news.yahoo.com

Perhaps he would like to visit sunny Florida while he's in the states?

Be glad to stuff his panties down his throat and feed him to the gators.

Another pronouncement by the UN jerkoff circle.

They should not be receiving any media coverage any more. The main function of the UN is to provide support and then pensions for representatives from third world countries, who are rewarded for thie domestic political efforts by appointment to these plush posts. All the rest is commentary.

"The genocide is ongoing," he added, saying systematic rape was a key element of the campaign. "Seventy-year-old women, 6-year-old girls are raped," he said.

Rape of 70 year olds? So there is a following for Tempest Storm, the superannuated stripper.


Another pronouncement by the UN jerkoff circle.


Posted by Johnson

Yes, it is much better to ignore the genocide because they are a certain color.

Five years after this became common knowledge the UN does something about it. And by something I mean they decide the problem exists.

***** They should not be receiving any media coverage any more.
Posted by Johnson ******

.........Jawhol!! Herr Johnson.......

......I know that you're on the White House payroll.....

.......but are the Chinese chipping in on your spiff now .?.....


If only Darfur had oil, we would be more than happy to invade them and give them what they really want...

Democracy and liberty, just like the US has .

"If only Darfur had oil, we would be more than happy to invade them and give them what they really want...


Democracy and liberty, just like the US has ."

Sudan does have oil.

I smell a precedent.

If the International Criminal Court succeeds with al-Bashir, can Bush be far behind?

Yum.

Mohamed also says al-Bashir likely will visit the U.N. General Assembly in September, and that Sudan would consider any attempt to arrest him a declaration of war.


Bring it on.


Posted by Corky


Corky, with President other than Dubya, I'd agree, but do we really need to lose a war with Sudan, too?


FF fer Northy

Posted by 726 at 2008-07-15 08:10 AM

Yes, it is much better to ignore the genocide because they are a certain color.

Got it. It's whitey's fault. All the perps are blue-eyed blond Aryans.

Do you want there to be "a white man's burden" mentality with the West patronizing the Africans, or do you think a local response by black Africans might just be more appropriate.

The continent is "liberated" from "the yoke" of colonialism and colonial exploitation of the black masses. Where is the Eden that the manual said would ensue after "freedom" was obtained.

How about some African solutions ot African problems. The entire continent seems to have gone to hell in a handbasket. But is there any reason that the indigenous peoples can't work it out free from white domination and interference in their domestic affairs? Isn't this a reasonable expectation?

The whites ceded Africa back to the Africans. Now the whites are dissatisfied with the way Africans are governing themselves and again want to interpose their own values and solutions on the native Africans. Let the Africans be free and relish the benefits conferred by liberty. Free. Free at last. And now some heirs of the white colonialists want to become paternalistic again and reimpose white standards and white domination.

Aren't the Africans with African standards and African performance sufficiently advanced to be left alone without your paternalistic meddling? There's that white racist mindset trying to impose its own value system on others. You white racists just consider yourselves "better" than Africans, and believe that your superior abilities are required for resolution of Africa's problems. Forget about it. Let freedom ring and Africans be Africans - resolving their own problems their own way.

Genocide in Darfur has meant nothing to libs because they haven't been able to blame Bush.

"Genocide in Darfur has meant nothing to libs because they haven't been able to blame Bush."

Another wingnut who needs to get up to speed with the reality train, which, in this particular case, done left the station a long, long time ago.

"Dar-who?"- GW Bush

Posted by Corky

If you are going to criticize the Republicans, could you, at least, come up with a legitimate issue?

Corky, with President other than Dubya, I'd agree, but do we really need to lose a war with Sudan, too?


Posted by northguy3


uh... Clinton went in to Somalia. Remember that disaster?

see if your history can go back more than eight years, hmmm?


I can see where someone with his same mentality would be reluctant to criticize Shrubby.



"uh... Clinton went in to Somalia. Remember that disaster?

see if your history can go back more than eight years, hmmm?

Posted by Eddie"

Remind us again, who was President in December of 1992?

"When this proved inadequate to stop the massive death and displacement of the Somali people (500,000 dead and 1.5 million refugees or displaced), the U.S., in December 1992, launched a major coalition operation to assist and protect humanitarian activities, Operation Restore Hope, under which the United States would assume the unified command of the new operation, in accordance with Resolution 794 (1992). The U.S. Marine Corps landed with the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit in Mogadishu and secured nearly one-third of the city, the port, and airport facilities, to facilitate airlifted humanitarian supplies in two weeks time. Elements of the 2nd Battalion, 9th Marines quickly secured routes to Baidoa, Balidogle and Kismayo, then were reinforced by 3rd Assault Amphibian Battalion and the US Army's 10th Mountain Division."

**** Aren't the Africans with African standards and African performance sufficiently advanced to be left alone without your paternalistic meddling?
Posted by Johnson *****

......does this logic apply to Iraq ?......

**** Mohamed also says al-Bashir likely will visit the U.N. General Assembly in September, and that Sudan would consider any attempt to arrest him a declaration of war. *****

......so Al-Bashir is going to declare war on the U.N. ........

......this guys sounds smart enough to be a Republican........( I know, I know...but is he queer ?? )......

"Let Africans come up with African solutions"

Isn't that what they are doing?

SKIZZIKS

Touche at 3:24.

Couldn't have said it better.

BTW, if they arrest Al-Bashir who could declare war anyway? Wouldn't he have to sign the declaration. Just keep pens away when visitors come to his cell and it'll be alright.

In some posters minds it's perfectly OK to start a genocide that didn't exist before, but not OK to try to end one.

Even John McCain can't get himself straight on that one. Somalia-one take. Iraq-the complete opposite view. Guess it's all about oil. He was adamant in his 1993 speech in the Senate over Somalia that our troops be pulled out of harms way, and in Iraq he's willing to leave them there in hostile surroundings for 100 years while we wait for the Iraqis to 'stand up'. I could walk at least by the time I was 2. What's their problem?

McCain Argues for U.S. Troop Withdrawl from Somalia = 1993

"Mr. President (Clinton, who didn't send the troops. Bush 41 did, promising to have them out by Clinton's term) I'll tell you what CAN hurt our viability as a superpower, and that's if we enmesh ourselves in a drawn out situation which entails the loss of American lives...using American forces, and THAT then will be what hurts our prestige"

John McCain before Congress 1993 (video linked above)

Lots of stuff about not wanting "Nation Building", wanting a precipitous withdrawal, etc....

His about face vis a vis Iraq is astounding

I smell a precedent.
Posted by MaryTylerWhore


You're right - this guy's dirty - I smell him too.

Maybe those rapist ass-fuckers from the African Union military can help out in Darfur.

Posted by skizziks at 2008-07-15 03:24 PM

**** Aren't the Africans with African standards and African performance sufficiently advanced to be left alone without your paternalistic meddling?
Posted by Johnson *****

......does this logic apply to Iraq ?......

The proposition in Iraq is different. Energy from oil is the lifeblood of modern civilization. We need to project power and influence distribution of oil as the production does not match increasing demand. We need a geopolitical platform as a base of operations. A "success" would be establishment of huge permanent bases in Iraq, so that we would not be beholden to the transitory goodwill of states in the area based on a conjunction of interests at a particular point in time, so as to be able to station our forces so that we can influence events.


Posted by skizziks at 2008-07-15 03:26 PM

**** Mohamed also says al-Bashir likely will visit the U.N. General Assembly in September, and that Sudan would consider any attempt to arrest him a declaration of war. *****

......so Al-Bashir is going to declare war on the U.N. ........


For all practical purposes he has done so as forces that rely on his support if not acting under his direction, periodically are attacking the forces stationed there to protect the tribesmen.

With a formal breach, the charade of non-intervention by the Central Sudanese government would be abandoned, and the ragtag protective force attacked, and probably routed.

China and Russia are not influenced by "moral" considerations. They continue to protect Sudan from sanctions. They probably are also influenced by the possiblility of the slippery slope such as UN condemnation and intervention in Tibet if "internal affairs" of a country are subject to UN monitoring. The application of the same standards to China as to Sudan seem remote as the practical aspects of sanctioning China render that option an inanity.

I wonder that there seems to be no hue and cry raised by the black Congressional delegations, the black local politicians, and the black activist organizations regarding this tragedy in Africa. It's almost akin to misprision.



Posted by SlowSVT at 2008-07-15 03:30 PM

"Let Africans come up with African solutions"

Isn't that what they are doing?

Accurate observation.

Different strokes for different folks seems to be unacceptable to many as cultural imperialism seems to be an imperative. The situation in Africa has caused great disquiet in the West. But apparently the impetus is insufficient to translate into effective action.

It isn't just the Sudan - Darfur situation. Over the years, murders, mutilations, rapes, and massacres accompanied by starvation and other disruptions have typified situations all over Africa. So far, the world has not acted, possibly deterred by the specter of the perception of a colonial redux. Whatever it is, humans on that continent have suffered grievously because of actions of other humans with the suffering intensifying markedly since "liberation."

The situation in Africa has caused great disquiet in the West. But apparently the impetus is insufficient to translate into effective action.

JOHNSON

Clinton and the U.N. stepped in in Sudan, albeit late. Why? He got a ton of flak over Somalia, where Bush 41 sent 25,000 peacekeeping troops in December 1992 promising to have them out before Clinton's term. He reneged on that and Clinton was left with the problem. John McCain complained loudly and publicly "they need to come home now!!!!". Bin Laden was in Somalia at the time and bragged Al Qaeda participated in the Mogadishu incident. Clinton got flak over bombing Afghanistan as the GOP cried "WAG THE DOG!!". The GOP tied Clinton's hands in all kinds of ways that came back to haunt us.

For some unknown reason, the right hates the U.N. Thank God for the U.N. They've done and continue to do marvelous works in the poorest, desperate places on the planet.

We could have had them in Iraq, but after their headquarters was bombed in 2003 they pulled out because we couldn't provide security. Meanwhile 2 million Iraqi refugees live in tents short of food and medical care.

Bush and Co. didn't make any friends there. The WH's clear intent was to diminish the U.N.

So, as far as humanitarian crisis's go, no one has been a bigger enemy to the U.N. in American history than Bush. Withholding payments, sending John Bolten against U.N. wishes, you name it. They're the best at dealing with crisis's. Always have been. But, without funding, and an enemy in the WH their job has been made that much harder.

The genocide in Sudan has been raging on the last 7 1/2 years with nary a peep or assistance from the WH. No oil. No care.

Bashir is a Islamo Fachist leader. Are there any Muslim countries without such a leader?

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