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For those hung up on the phrase 'flip-flopper' here are some REAL flip-flops on key issues by John McCain. Spin away.

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National Security Policy

1. McCain thought Bushs warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

2. McCain insisted that everyone, even terrible killers,-- the worst kind of scum of humanity,-- and detainees at Guantanamo Bay, deserve to have some adjudication of their cases,-- even if that means releasing some of them.-- McCain now believes the opposite.

3. He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.--

4. In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

5. McCain was for closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay before he was against it.

6. When Barack Obama talked about going after terrorists in Pakistani mountains with predators, McCain criticized him for it. Hes since come to the opposite conclusion.

Foreign Policy

7. McCain was for kicking Russia out of the G8 before he was against it.

8. McCain supported moving towards normalization of relations-- with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

9. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

10. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

11. McCain is both for and against a rogue state rollback-- as a focus of his foreign policy vision.

12. McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treatys behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.

13. McCain was against divestment from South Africa before he was for it.

Military Policy

Military Policy

14. McCain recently claimed that he was the greatest critic-- of Rumsfelds failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as a mission accomplished.-- In March 2004, he said, Im confident were on the right course.-- In December 2005, he said, Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.--

15. McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions, concluding, on multiple occasions, that a Korea-like presence is both a good and a bad idea.

16. McCain said before the war in Iraq, We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.-- Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was probably going to be long and hard and tough.--

17. McCain has repeatedly said its a dangerous mistake to tell the enemy-- when U.S. troops would be out of Iraq. In May, McCain announced that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.

18. McCain was against expanding the GI Bill before he was for it.

Domestic Policy

19. McCain defended privatizing-- Social Security. Now he says hes against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)

20. McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesnt.

21. McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

22. He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Partys policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

23. In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, wont commit to supporting a regulation bill hes co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.

24. McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.

25. McCains first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldnt be rewarded-- for acting irresponsibly.-- His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.

26. McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldnt be allowed.

27. McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.

28. McCain was anti-ethanol. Now hes pro-ethanol.

29. McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

30. In 2005, McCain endorsed intelligent design creationism, a year later he said the opposite, and a few months after that, he was both for and against creationism at the same time.

Economic Policy

31. McCain was against Bushs tax cuts for the very wealthy before he was for them.

32. John McCain initially argued that economics is not an area of expertise for him, saying, Im going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues; I still need to be educated,-- and The issue of economics is not something Ive understood as well as I should.-- He now falsely denies ever having made these remarks and insists that he has a very strong-- understanding of economics.

33. McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal. And soon after that, McCain abandoned his second position and went back to his first.

34. McCain said in 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were too tilted to the wealthy.-- By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and falsely argued that he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.

35. McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

36. McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a read my lips candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?-- referring to George H.W. Bushs 1988 pledge. No new taxes,-- McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, Im not making a read my lips statement, in that I will not raise taxes.--

37. McCain has changed his entire economic worldview on multiple occasions.

38. McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off economically than they were before Bush took office.

Energy Policy

39. McCain supported the moratorium on coastal drilling ; now hes against it.

40. McCain recently announced his strong opposition to a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.

41. McCain endorsed a cap-and-trade policy with a mandatory emissions cap. In mid-June, McCain announced he wants the caps to voluntary.

42. McCain explained his belief that a temporary suspension of the federal gas tax would provide an immediate economic stimulus. Shortly thereafter, he argued the exact opposite.

43. McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesnt.

Immigration Policy

44. McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants kids who graduate from high school. Now hes against it.

45. On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own bill.

46. In April, McCain promised voters that he would secure the borders before proceeding to other reform measures.-- Two months later, he abandoned his public pledge, pretended that hed never made the promise in the first place, and vowed that a comprehensive immigration reform policy has always been, and would always be, his top priority.--

Judicial Policy and the Rule of Law

47. McCain said he would not impose a litmus test on any nominee.-- He used to promise the opposite.

48. McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administrations warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.

49. McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.

Campaign, Ethics, and Lobbying Reform

50. McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesnt.

51. In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving feedback-- on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.

52. McCain supported a campaign-finance bill, which bore his name, on strengthening the public-financing system. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.

Politics and Associations

53. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist John Hagee. Now he doesnt. (He also believes his endorsement from Hagee was both a good and bad idea.)

54. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist Rod Parsley. Now he doesnt.

55. McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerrys Democratic ticket in 2004.

56. McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.

57. McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as an agent of intolerance-- in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans deserved-- the 9/11 attacks.

58. In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending dirty money-- to help finance Bushs presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

59. McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

60. McCain decided in 2000 that he didnt want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he would taint the image of the Straight Talk Express.-- Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.

61. McCain believed powerful right-wing activist/lobbyist Grover Norquist was corrupt, a shill for dictators, and (with just a dose of sarcasm) Jack Abramoffs gay lover.-- McCain now considers Norquist a key political ally.

And while I realize there are some who believe these constant flip-flops are irrelevant, I respectfully disagree.

Now THERE'S a ROYAL Flip-Flopper if I've ever seen one.

Spin that Rushbots. Let's hear you defend someone who doesn't seem to have a stand on anything.

Not presidential material.

More McBullshit in action!

Yet the librul media continue to gives him a free pass.

Give 'im a break.

He's old.

He was never that smart to begin with.

He won't be elected.

He won't be elected.


Posted by Dave


well, gallup polls are doing their darnest to make him seem electable...

"well, gallup polls are doing their darnest to make him seem electable..."

I'm just tryin' to maintain a less negative outlook.

Gosh, is McCain gaining on Obama in the flip-flop race, or is Obama demonstrating his superiority in this activity? Flip-flop away Obama. I've got confidence in you. Grandma, and dad, and stepdad, and Rev. Wright 20 year plus mentor in being a committed racist and anti-Semite, and Minister Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam, all under the bus - so far.

Ohb wait a second. How do we count? Do we count just issues, or cumulate dumping people and changing positions on issues?

Well, Jimmy's flippin' unbelievable!

JIMMY CARTER SPEAKS OUT FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN GAZA
The world must stop standing idle while the people of Gaza are treated with such cruelty

desertpeace.wordpress.com

While the litmus test is still out there for Obama...we know where McCain stands on genocide, don't we:>)

Ohb wait a second. How do we count?

You don't count at all Johnson. Most of the time we ignore you.

Gosh, is Johnson bloviating again? Gosh, does anybody read him?

how many times has ombaaabaaa reversed himself on? (hint...every stand he has taken...)

how many times has ombaaabaaa reversed himself on? (hint...every stand he has taken...)

Posted by cindy199

NO one beats your hero, McCain. See the Back Page thread.

You right wing nuts take the cake.

CINDY

You obviously can't or don't read you idiot.

Gosh, is Johnson bloviating again? Gosh, does anybody read him?

Posted by nullifidian

Only when I have an extra 10 minutes per post to read them.

Which I don't

61 times in 24 years. Thats about 2 a year. By my count Obama has that beat by at least ten fold.


Magic Negro

Speaking of assholes that create new handles after being suspended, Crackpipejenkem shows up right on cue using his latest moniker, Magic Negro.

www.msnbc.msn.com

Obama supporters on the far left cry foul
They perceive a shift in positions, and they don't like it

updated 10:24 p.m. ET, Sat., July. 12, 2008
PORTLAND, Ore. - In the breathless weeks before the Oregon presidential primary in May, Martha Shade did what thousands of other people here did: she registered as a Democrat so she could vote for Senator Barack Obama.

Now, however, after critics have accused Mr. Obama of shifting positions on issues like the war in Iraq, the Bush administrations program of wiretapping without warrants, gun control and the death penalty all in what some view as a shameless play to a general election audience Ms. Shade said she planned to switch back to the Green Party.

Im disgusted with him,-- said Ms. Shade, an artist. I cant even listen to him anymore. He had such an opportunity, but all this audacity of hope stuff, its blah, blah, blah. For all the independents hes going to gain, hes going to lose a lot of progressives.--

Ana,

I am starting to agree with Ms. Shade, as time goes on and we see the stands obama is taking he is turning off my vote.

I am now up in the air between him and mccain, if we are going to get another do nothing same same crap I am not going to reward the democrats. Fuck em.

MONEYWAR

And yet a candidate like McCain who's changed positions on virtually EVERY issue there is is still in the running in your mind?

If he picks Romney you'll have a VP candidate who doesn't even resemble the moderate governor he proclaimed himself to be.

Whatever. If we get 4 more years of Bush and gridlock it won't be my fault.

Uh, oh.

The Rushbots are avoiding this thread like the plague.

The truth hurts too much.

Sidney's doing a Romney

Add in his fantasies about Iraq, and its beginning to sound like Dubya was right when he said McCain was Insane.
I wonder if Joementum has clued Johnnyboy into the fact the Iraqi PM and security Minister both did say the "t" word? And meant it.

*** MC CAIN'S Reversed Himself 61 Times On Key Issues ***

......it's hard to stay on message when you are polishing a turd......

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