Let me be the first to say it must be Bush's fault.

"War is hell"

Let me be the first to say it must be Bush's fault.

Posted by anamerican

wrong!..Clinton's bj is the culprit!

Clinton the draft dodger never took his military duty seriously even as Commander in Chief.

Maybe we don't really wear a white hat. The part that matters more then is that we may not be perfect, we are one hell of a lot better than "them".

This massacre was done by South Koreans to South Koreans. No Americans pulled the trigger.
The U.S. also authorized the release of this report.

At that time, very early in the war, Korea was a soverign nation and their government had authorized the killing of thousands of South Korean political prisoners and Communist sympathizers on their own. Word had come down the advancing North Korean Army was releasing captured political prisoners in South Korean prisons who then joined with the North Koreans in the fight.

The U.S. probably could not have stopped these ordered killings anyway as thousands of South Koreans (in and out of the prisons) were being killed at hundreds of different locations within South Korea -- and not at the hands of the U.S. military either. The U.S. military didn't give their approval or encourage the massacre. They said nothing because they could do nothing. They did not control the Korean government nor did they have ground control over the entire region of South Korea.

The South Korean government, right or wrong, did have reason for concern about additional enemy forces being added as we saw how the Communist Chinese by the thousands joined forces with the North Korean military after the war started and killed thousands of our own U.S. military guys not to mention thousands of South Koreans.

AP story, too:>)

The AP Dumps Pretense; Shills for McCain
Steven Benen----At this point, it goes beyond just the AP giving John McCain donuts and McCain giving the AP barbecue. First there was the slam-job on Obama that read like an RNC oppo dump, followed by a scathing, 900-word reprimand of Obamas decision to bypass the public financing system in the general election, filled with errors of fact and judgment.

Posted by tonyroma at 12:44 AM | 3 COMMENTS

Where's McCain when we need him?

St Olaf became a Saint the same way? he only killed 3000 or so in cold blood:>)

"Hey, war ain't pretty, war ain't nice.
BAD THINGS HAPPENED on both sides in the Korean War." CC

neither is religious warfare...

VICTIMS OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH

"WONDERFUL EVENTS THAT TESTIFY TO GOD'S DIVINE GLORY"

Listed are only events that solely occurred on command of church
Authorities or were committed in the name of Christianity. (List
incomplete)

1. Ancient Pagans

As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples
were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed. Between
315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.

Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea,
the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.

Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis
were famous as "temple destroyer." [DA468] Pagan services became
punishable by death in 356. [DA468]

Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed,
because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]

According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all
Christian teachings..." In 6th century pagans were declared void of
all rights. In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was
executed on demand of Christian authorities. [DA466]

The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to
pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a
Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.[DO19-25]

Bani,

We all know that terrible things were done, a thousand years ago, in the name of Christianity. But that was people misusing the term, not the faith itself.

If I go out and rob a 7/11 and say it's in the name of Bani, does that make you complicit? Even a closed-minded bigot like you knows the diff.
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Here's a Bible verse just for you:

Matthew 23:24 -- You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

"neither is religious warfare..."

I realized you would not understand that Bible verse, so I'll put it in context.

This thread is about bashing America for something that may have happened 58 years ago. Revisionists on the Left are always trying to re-write history.

Then the anger in your heart and the hatred in your soul can only lead you into bashing the Christian faith. From a long time ago. Completely off topic, except in the seething pit of darkness that you live in.

Straining at gnats, Bani. Straining at gnats.

Clinton the draft dodger never took his military duty seriously even as Commander in Chief.

Posted by fwthom

Whatever that means.

Then the anger in your heart and the hatred in your soul can only lead you into bashing the Christian faith. From a long time ago.

Vernon

How many has "Christian GW" killed in Iraq in the name of oil ~ dear one:>)

Wednesday, July 02, 2008

It's true, bad things happen in wars and this example is probably not the worst war crime ever covered up by our government. What this case does show though is that our government has far too many classified documents, spanning a length of time that no one could concievably still believes is in any way protecting our security. Supposedly America is a free society but when our government regularly classifies so much information which we have a right to know about it call in to question whethere we really are free or if, more likely, our freedom is just a patriotic slogan which really is a lie.
Free countries don't classify information unless there is a clear and present danger caused by releasing it.

This country once stood for human rights. Today Human rights are a propaganda tool used by our Government for promotion of itself and allies while screaming loudly against enemies real and imaginary similar crimes.

Long live the Corporation, fuck the people.

America never stood for human rights. Ever. It's just that the corporate *ssholes in power are losing thier media control, or this would never have been known to us is all.

ROOK OUT!

Maybe we don't really wear a white hat. The part that matters more then is that we may not be perfect, we are one hell of a lot better than "them".

Posted by keith204 at 2008-07-05 10:55 PM | Reply |

No offense, but to many, you ARE "them".

Shouldn't the murderers themselves get most the blame?

Shouldn't the murderers themselves get most the blame?

Posted by Sully at 2008-07-06 04:15 PM | Reply

If I hand You a Gun and You kill someone or if I turn a blind eye to Your killing of others. Aren't I just as culpable for their deaths as You are who commited the acts?? Seems to Me I am just as responsible or even more responsible because I chose not to prevent it from happening in the first place.

Larry Mohr

"If I hand You a Gun and You kill someone or if I turn a blind eye to Your killing of others. Aren't I just as culpable for their deaths as You are who commited the acts?? Seems to Me I am just as responsible or even more responsible because I chose not to prevent it from happening in the first place"

No you, aren't. You obviously don't give a shit that the murder happened so you are a scumbag, but you're not the murderer.

More responsible? That's just fucking ridiculous unless you think of Koreans as animals rather than human beings just like we are.

Bah. If a mafia don orders someone dead, he's just as guilty as the button man...

Revision:Gen.McArthur from War Hero to War Criminal!

Now if a massacre like this happened in Sicily or Ireland,the victims families would have paid back most of the perpetrators by now.My question is if South Korea was reviled or even upset by these mass-murders why did it take nearly 60 years for them to express any outrage?

As for Gen.McArthur and the US Military who passively monitored these massacres words of Martin Luther King Jr.come to mind "if you are not actively fighting against an evil then you are actually an accomplice to it!" Or words from the Nuremberg Nazi trials of '47 that "citizens have international duties to respect and protect human rights that go beyond any loyalty to their own governments!"

Googling not's your strong suit, is it Caddy?