It's the volcanoes or the sun spots or Clinton's fault!

The Flat Earth Righties.

If there are still people a century down the road, they will take their vacations in sun-drenched paradises like Greenland. herm

A great opportunity is opening up to build a beach resort at the Arctic.

This is anecdotal evidence for global warming if you ignore all anecdotes to the contrary. And what evidence is there that man has anything to do with this? The earth has been a lot warmer than it is now and a lot colder. I'll take warmer and keep the A/C on full blast.

I think global warming is a farce. Just another reason for environmentalist nuts to try to make me live like them...

Fat Zat must be getting frustrated. This is the second time he posted this article and all he gets is laughed at.

This "melting" is just a theory. Nobody can prove that this "melting" even exists. Besides, things have allegedly been "melting" since before people were around therefore people aren't causing this "melting".
Billions of automobiles and factories would have no effect on a closed environmental system.
Why bother driving more fuel efficient vehicles?
Why do I have to pay so much for gas?
Why should we use less gasoline?
Why do I have to pay so much for gas?
duh.

"This is the second time he posted this article"

You really should do a little research before you lie, Ray.

This article is July 2, 2008.

Conserving fuel and creating less pollution is a nutty environmentalist idea. Conservatives are against conservation.

Ice is Melting?? Great!!!! Now I can get a clean glass of cold clear water(Proving You don't have hard water and a God awful charcoal filter) What a refreshing idear. Thanks Zat I'll take 1000 gallons of the stuff.

Larry

You really should do a little research before you lie, Ray.

Then it's the second time you posted a similar article. I don't forget stupid stuff like this.

"Then it's the second time you posted a similar article. I don't forget stupid stuff like this."

significant proof of Ray's ignornace!

The article maybe brand new.
But it's the same old spew.
Global Warming is real they say.
They preach to it every single day.
But when You're frozen to death.
As You see Your last bitter breath.
Remind them how stupid they have become
To believe in something utterly dumb.
If global warming is real
You sure got a raw deal.

Larry

Fat Wuss Thom weighs in on climate change: "I'll take warmer and keep the A/C on full blast."

Thommie seems to thinkthat there will be an unlimited amount of electricity, and never mind that many folks around the globe still don't see running water. herm

Arctic sea ice melt 'even faster' | Drudge Retort

"Just another reason for environmentalist nuts to try to make me live like them..."

Boa Ass, this environmentalist doesn't begin to give a shit HOW you live but I care a little as to the impact of how YOu live on how I live. Aside from that, there's nothing in YOU for ME.herm

Just another reason for environmentalist nuts to try to make me live like them...

~Bo Don't Know

Enviromental nuts, as you call them, are interested in creating a sustainable future for all of mankind.

You are merely content to spout right wing talking points supplied to you by the global warming denial iundustry paid for by BigOil and other major polluters.

Good luck explaining to yer progeny why they are gonna inherit a world much diminished from the one they were born into.

There is no question, at this point, as to whether or not the Man Made Global Warming and Man Made Climate Change Crisis is real.

The only real question is "Wot to do now?"

If you can't sit down with the adults and discuss these issues rationally then just go in the corner and fling poo like the rest of yer brain dead bretheren on the right.

Shhh... Adults are speaking now.

Be Well.

just in time for the end of the mayan calendar.. nice knowing you guys.

significant proof of Ray's ignornace!

Posted by onna

Blah blah blah. Weather changes. Get used to it. This topic is a waste of time arguing over. Might as well have fun with the Chicken Littles.

ignorance, I spelled it "ignornace!" to see if Ray would notice, he didn't, he failed the test, what a dumb shit! what is your education level, as poor as most right wingers?

right wingers say, "the earth is only 6000 yrs old, evolution is a liberal lie, global warming is a hoax", they have a lot of company there in the bottom of the class!

Ray, pay attention "...If you can't sit down with the adults and discuss these issues rationally then just go in the corner and fling poo like the rest of yer brain dead bretheren on the right."

"Blah blah blah. Weather changes. Get used to it. This topic is a waste of time..."

As usual the far right weighs in with Bushy insights that eluded mere mortals. At least he calls no one a marxist sympathizer, pussy or traitor. Having a safe and sane Fourth? herm

"see if Ray would notice, he didn't, he failed the test"

Again? Shocked I am.

I bet he hasn't even read Fourier's paper yet.

And then, of course, Larry's "Who thought this up."

Aside from that, there's nothing in YOU for ME.

Typical liberal selfishness....

Shhh... Adults are speaking now.

Such childish taunts spud, now you go get into your half car (as no one else could fit in it but you) sputter along now..

No one thought this up, Larry.
It started with an OBSERVATION.
Some gases let visible light pass through but don't let infrared (heat) pass through.
Most of the sun's radiant energy is yellow visible light if you haven't noticed. That heats the Earth, which radiates in the infrared. The more greenhouse gas, the more infrared is trapped.
The big one happens to be CO2.
It's the way the world works.
If you don't like it, tough.

ROFLMMFAO too funny Zat. You are a card. Never change.

Larry

Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month 1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration

al wants you to green up your house like he did.

ignorance, I spelled it "ignornace!" to see if Ray would notice, he didn't, he failed the test, what a dumb shit! what is your education level, as poor as most right wingers?

Posted by onna at 2008-07-04 04:14 PM

I'm not petty so I don't pay attention to spelling errors like you or Fat Zat would.

Ray, pay attention "...If you can't sit down with the adults and discuss these issues rationally then just go in the corner and fling poo like the rest of yer brain dead bretheren on the right."

I tried. But when a moron insists scientific truths are decided by computer models and majority consensus, then rational debate is impossible.

"... when a moron insists scientific truths are decided by computer models and majority consensus, then rational debate is impossible."

Rational debate WITH morons is impossible ... herm

"computer models and majority consensus"

As if F=MA were a debate.
What a pathetic joke.

Talk to the ice, Ray; While you can.

And remind us what computer Arrhenius and Callendar used, "engineer."

So what does the temperature of a system do if the heat inside increases?

You've never even been near a university, Ray.

As usual the far right weighs in with Bushy insights that eluded mere mortals. At least he calls no one a marxist sympathizer, pussy or traitor. Having a safe and sane Fourth? herm
Posted by herm

Now I'm a Bush sympathizer?

right wingers say, "the earth is only 6000 yrs old, evolution is a liberal lie, global warming is a hoax", they have a lot of company there in the bottom of the class!
Posted by onna at 2008-07-04

And a religious right winger?

This thread is a Cuckoo's Nest.

You've never even been near a university, Ray.

Posted by Zatoichi

Not since I graduated in 1972. In those days we did lab experiments to prove the theories work.

Computer models can be massaged to prove anything. Too many scientists like Fat Zat are on the government dole. It's a good bet that every one who subscribes to this bullshit is dependent on government.

You mean they use computer models in declaring Global Warming is real?? My God that is about as bad as having a computer declare You're the Handsomest person on earth and no one can compete against You. No wonder global Warming fruits sound so far out there dude.

Larry

Global Warming and Climate Change is just a farce to propagate Socialist ideas. Watermelons - Green on the outside and red on the inside.

". His warehouse is located outside Tucson AZ."

His daughter invented it.

Her toenail clippings are smarter than Ray.

It's the volcanoes or the sun spots or Clinton's fault!

The Flat Earth Righties.

Posted by northguy3

and so are you saying that there is no such thing as underground volcanic activity in this area.
some of your sacred scientists are saying otherwise, arent they?

amd you are right of course.....clinton has to be behind it somewhere.......give me a minute and I will link him to it. I am good at this.....

"It's the volcanoes or the sun spots or Clinton's fault! The Flat Earth Righties."

No, it's the hot air you exhale.

The bleeding heart, 'blame me first' Lefties.

In L.A., the driving becomes electric

okay so here is my link with this melting and blowjob billy.

so if blowjob had stuck to business INSTEAD OF BEING STUCK to blue dresses, maybe he could have done something to stabalize the artic circle and then he wouldnt have laid the daughter of his cousins friend who knows the housekeeper of KEVIN BACON......

WHEW.....I knew I could get THAT IN someway

Anybody know why the antartic is having thicker ice with all this warming???

so if blowjob had stuck to business INSTEAD OF BEING STUCK to blue dresses, maybe he could have done something to stabalize the artic circle and then he wouldnt have laid the daughter of his cousins friend who knows the housekeeper of KEVIN BACON......

WHEW.....I knew I could get THAT IN someway

Posted by bushlovertwo

you missed the Monica working girl for mossad part:>)

If there are still people a century down the road, they will take their vacations in sun-drenched paradises like Greenland. herm

Posted by herm

It was that way back when the Norskies went viking.

"It was that way back when the Norskies went viking."

Posted by Sniper

horseshit

(More pathetically stupid than Ray flag)

Why don't we talk about the Anarctic? It has 90% of the worlds ice and is expanding.

"Why don't we talk about the Anarctic? It has 90% of the worlds ice and is expanding."

Posted by ozzieoswald at 2008-07-05 07:14 AM | Reply

Sure--let's talk about that--the only problem is, you don't listen.

while NASA, NOAA, all SCIENCE publications, every major UNIVERSITY, most SCIENTISTS say global warming is real, RUSH says it's a hoax. Now if you were a dumb shit, who would you listen to?

"Now if you were a dumb shit, who would you listen to?"

Uhhh...the ones raking in the money?

Sure--let's talk about that--the only problem is, you don't listen.

Your link is from Friday, March 3, 2006. Anything more current?

From Buffalo's article:

more research is needed to determine if the shrinkage is a long-term trend, because the new report is based on just three years of data.

Only three years? Wow, I wanna base my lifestyle on THIS!!!

Also from the article:

Oregon state climatologist George Taylor noted that sea ice in some areas of Antarctica is expanding and part of the region is getting colder, despite computer models that would predict otherwise.

Is that a self retorting retort?

"Uhhh...the ones raking in the money?"
you are absolutely right! Rush makes a hell of a lot more money than a NASA scientist plus the average research professor only gets around 74,000 a year. so the dumb shits certainly will listen to rich Rush.

it's easy to lie to dumb shits!

"Is that a self retorting retort?"

No, it's an outright lie.

George Taylor states his opinion, he has produced no research nor study nor peer reviewed article to support his opinion, his opinion is aimed at dumb shits that won't read the science.

"Rush makes a hell of a lot more money than a NASA scientist plus the average research professor only gets around 74,000 a year."

Is it your contention that Rush is making all that money from calling the global warming issue a scam?
Is that "research professor" relying on government funding to have a job?

"it's easy to lie to dumb shits!"

Evidently so. You and Algore have a lot of dumb shits believing your rubbish.

"You and Algore have a lot of dumb shits believing your rubbish. "

from a guy that won't look at NASA's data, at US GOV data, at any valid science, and doesn't know what "peer reviewed" means, and he call others dumb, WOW!

by the way Gore is not a scientist, his views are of no interest to me, only to dumb shits like you that are totally unaware of the science.

I agree with THIS guy....dumbshit

"Today's interpreters of the weather are what social scientists call availability entrepreneurs: the activists, journalists and publicity-savvy scientists who selectively monitor the globe looking for newsworthy evidence of a new form of sinfulness, burning fossil fuels.

A year ago, British meteorologists made headlines predicting that the buildup of greenhouse gases would help make 2007 the hottest year on record. At year's end, even though the British scientists reported the global temperature average was not a new record it was actually lower than any year since 2001 the BBC confidently proclaimed, "2007 Data Confirms Warming Trend."

When the Arctic sea ice last year hit the lowest level ever recorded by satellites, it was big news and heralded as a sign that the whole planet was warming. When the Antarctic sea ice last year reached the highest level ever recorded by satellites, it was pretty much ignored. A large part of Antarctica has been cooling recently, but most coverage of that continent has focused on one small part that has warmed."

Oh...and here's your peer review, try to read the whole thing. It has some big words so just take your time...dumbshit. LOL

your link contained no peer reviewed science supporting your view, none at all, big words yah, science no, just an oil compaany shill, check who that site is registered to and supported by.

the good news is that the dumb shit minority is getting smaller and their influence is waning!

You and Algore have a lot of dumb shits believing your rubbish.

Anyone seeing the irony?

Rush barely graduated from high school. He flunked everything in college and dropped out without completing a full year.

Oh...and here's your peer review, try to read the whole thing. It has some big words so just take your time...dumbshit. LOL

"your link contained no peer reviewed science supporting your view,.."

Wasn't meant to. It DID however, quote some social SCIENTISTS (you like that word) who say they your SCIENTISTS are "availability entrepreneurs." I like that.
As far as I'm concerned the only valid "peer-reviewed" material comes from Zatoitchi's scientific, peer-reviewed pool.

"Rush barely graduated from high school. He flunked everything in college and dropped out without completing a full year."

I really don't know anything about Rush other than you and your little friends hate him and he's rich. I guess he's doing something right then.

"Oh that's impressive. {yawn}"

It's quite obvious that neither you nor OFFA read any of the article. It very emphatically disproves your precious "peer-reviewed" status of the global warming report. The opening statements probably turned you off:

"The IPCC would have us believe that its reports are diligently reviewed by many hundreds of scientists and that these reviewers endorse the contents of the report. An analysis of the reviewers' comments for the scientific assessment report by Working Group I show a very different and very worrying story.
The comments for Working Group I are the only set of reviewers' comments to be made available to the public, and only then thanks to use of US Freedom of Information laws rather than a willingness on the part of the IPCC to allow people to examine the material. Surely all people should be able to examine the involvement and thinking of their governments and the reviewers from their own countries because it is the people who will most certainly bear the economic and political costs of any resultant actions.

"Perhaps the IPCC is simply worried that exposing the reviewers' comments and the responses to those comments to close scrutiny will reveal the delusions of thoroughness and widespread consensus."'

"The notion of hundreds of experts diligently poring over all chapters of the report and providing extensive feedback by way of peer review to the editing teams is here demonstrated to be an illusion. The true picture is there were some 64 reviewers for each chapter, of whom half made very few comments. Most comments were minor drafting amendments."

when absolutely no proof is referred to as it "disproves your precious...", you know you are talking to a right winger. (an ignorant one at that)

ONNA...have you been eating tofu? I'm worried about you, boy. You need to see this SCIENTIFIC report. I think it has been peer-reviewed about as well as the IPCC reports.

"I think it has been peer-reviewed"

translation, JGA doesn't know what "peer reviewed" means! Also JGA doesn't know that IPCC report was not peer reviewed, the science behind the report was peer reviewed.
just confirmation that JGA doesn't know the term!

Ray says "my peers are as good as your peers"

"Ray says "my peers are as good as your peers"

Ray's right!

If ONNA read the article at all, he has a problem with reading comprehension. It states that there WAS no "peer review" such as ONNA and his little friends would have us believe. It probably IS true that the boy has been pigging out on tofu.

McCain asked his science advisors to report on the climate change issue as he initially did not agree with the consensus, after reviewing the actual science he came out in full support of the climate change issue. instead of looking at tofu articles JGA should google the issue and find his minority view is ridiculed.

BUFFALO BOB: "Why don't we talk about the Anartic"

Two problems with your Smart Ass Remark!

1. You qoute the Washington Compost which has little creditability. (Not quite as bad as the NY Slime)

2. The article is over two years old. Get with the current data.

Now that even Bush and McBush admit that global warming is real it just seems like a waste of time to even read and consider the posts of deniers.
Their futile attempts to convince much of anyone that this is some sort of plot by Al Gore just makes them seem increasingly comical and irrelevant.
Flat Earth Society is very likely a place where their views would be seriously considered and I suggest that they start directing their uninformed opinions in that direction. The rest of us are losing patience with such intentional ignorance.

seems to me everyone is missing the point of global warming......the issue is "man made" global warming which is the hoax.

I don't disagree with global warming; this ol' earth has been cooling and warming way before man ever walked on it. what I do disagree on (if osama is elected) is a global warming tax on the american people. this tax WILL NOT STOP OR SLOW DOWN the so called global warming

".the issue is "man made" global warming which is the hoax. "

moron flag

1896 Svante Arrhenius, "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground." Philosophical Magazine 41: 237-76.

It's been in the literature for 112 years, you worthless idiots.

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling..."

1896, 1938? you are joking right?

Bushlover- WHEW.....I knew I could get THAT IN someway

If you could get it in, you wouldn't need to talk about bills blowjob from the late 90's.

It's like shooting pool with a rope for you, isn't it?

seems to me everyone is missing the point of global warming......the issue is "man made" global warming which is the hoax.

I don't disagree with global warming; this ol' earth has been cooling and warming way before man ever walked on it. what I do disagree on (if osama is elected) is a global warming tax on the american people. this tax WILL NOT STOP OR SLOW DOWN the so called global warming

Posted by Maverick at 2008-07-06 10:31 AM

yup! Billions of humans are having NO effect on the Planet...There is nothing to see here....But, We need DRILL for MORE OIL and Blow up stuff!

Now Go back to sleep while we make oodles of money please!

-CEO's of KBR and EXXON and The Right

thank God I am rich otherwise this might concern me.

Earlier than normal: Humm, just what is normal for this planet which has a proven record of going through cycles of hot and cold ages even before man's existence, and will the scientists step forward who can claim to start or stop one of these cycles - PLEASE!

Sounds like a sign from above - no permafrost to drill through? Set up the rigs boys this should save at least a season or two...

It's at least possible that it's a cycle we're (the earth) going through and I'm pretty sure that the pole shifts have been proven to happen every 100K years or so, we're due it would seem.

The north pole is shifting towards Siberia from Greenland. Not an atypical event as it wanders a bit anyway. Some people think the Mayan prediction for 2012 involves a polar swap. That would rock everyone's world.