Same here in NC...I carry a sweater in August!

'The unnecessary refrigeration of America has become a chronic disease...'

it is 9:30 a.m. here in phoenix and the temperature is 96 degrees.
refrigeration is not an 'option'.
by noon, the sun will be hovering fifty feet over my house and will remove the first layer of skin off of your body if you remain outside for more than ten minutes. without sunglasses, you will be blind in fifteen minutes.

we choose our hell... arizona's is the summer heat and the winter snowbirds.

i've experienced the bitter cold of the northeast's winter...
i'd rather have this.

all the best.

Kerrin57, I know some people who think they have to be in the ultimate state of cold in order to be comfortable- in the summer time-

Oh I LOVE the cold. I breathe better in the cold. The heat just kills Me. If I could I would run the A/C at 60 Degrees. But alas I can't so We run it at 78 Degrees. I get a more restful sleep in the cold too.

Larry

Larry,

The problem I have is that I grow accustomed to the cold in the six months of the year it is below 50 degrees. Some days where it is above 32 I go outside without a coat.

Now when it comes to summertime, anything above 80 is uncomfortable. Thankfully 90 is a rarity.

Lived in Tucson for 9 loooooonnnggg years...the hottest shit I could imagine. That whole "It's a dry heat" crap...yep...so's a blow dryer, on high, in your face.
My electric bills were outrageous but I was comfortable.

Sense

it is 9:30 a.m. here in phoenix and the temperature is 96 degrees.
refrigeration is not an 'option'.

I agree with you about a/c not being an option. We're looking at another week of hovering around the 100 degree mark here in SoCal -- same thing a couple weeks ago. It's heating up way too early in the year. Usually we get the real hot stuff in Aug/Sept. I put out some water for any thirsty critters -- except for the lizards who seem to love the hot sun. This heat is tough on man and creature alike.

I don't think we have to actually kill our AC...JoeK is a little extreme and may be getting senile.
I love the heat when working in garden ...big hat, bottle of water and I am good at 95. But I hate to sweat when working at my desk.
I do think we could make the compromise of setting the ac at 75...to save the world...LOL.
Or in my case.. save a few bucks. I am sure power will soon get very expensive. DH installed a timer... 85 when not home and 78 when home.Ceiling fans make this a comfortable temp...even for sleeping.
Hey...did the AGW crazies report that NC has had record lows for the last few days...temps not seen since the 1800's? Ah...but that doesn't sound as sexy as record highs .

hey chris
i've been here since the 70s and it has gotten worse in the timespan.
over the years, as the city has expanded (considerably), a heat bubble has been created. orchards have been brought down and pavement has gone in and concrete is now the rule. the nights don't cool off the way they used to and the hot temps take up five months of the years as opposed to the three that used to be the norm.

you mentioned moving away from cal and nixing az.
while the above is enough to keep a sane person from moving to phoenix or tucson, you might want to look at flagstaff. it's got four seasons, snow, pine-trees and all the other comforts.
it is extremely reminiscent of pennsylvania in some ways... just not as crowded. just a thought. these days, one's career can easily dictate one's choice.

stay inside if you can.

all the best.

Larry,

Someone is making you keep the A/C on 87? God man, then you dont have the ac on at all! For us, it's 66 in summer, period. There are somethings I just wont skimp on, and air conditioning is one of them.

an environmental expert

Yea right....

"But alas I can't so We run it at 78 Degrees. Larry"

"Someone is making you keep the A/C on 87? Boaz"

Dyslexia is a bitch, eh Baoz?

Unfortunately my husband is a "cold freak" and likes a chilly house as well as having the ceiling fans running. In the evenings I end up putting on a sweater while I mess around on the puter.

LILBRIT

The biggest mistake people make with ceiling fans in the summer is to have them blowing down, which only blows the hotter air down and makes the air conditioner work harder.

By reversing the direction of the fans you get more cool air below and less windy conditions.

One other thing I do in the summer is to close the vents downstairs a little so the cool air goes to the upper floor where it's needed more.

Perhaps he's already doing that, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

I like to set the air condition at 60 degrees when I sleep and anywhere from 65 to 68 when I am up.

Joe Klein can kiss my ass as can Al Gore.

Bee Swell

This asshole, Joe Klein doesn't even air condition his house. He boiled his brain from the heat and now he's completely flipped out. If he or any government storm troopers come to check on what temperatore my thermostadt is set on, I wiil be waiting for them with my Joe Horn autographed shotgun.

Out of protest of others trying to tell us how to live we've just turned my air con down 4 more degrees (and we're loving it):)

fuck em./

its going to be 95 with humidity of about 90 per cent in houston most of the summer....
my air will stay on.....but thanks for the help joe..

fuckem

and besides, with our TEN. SIX BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS....we could all use at least HALF as much as al gore uses........

hey joe....just read a report with a picture of kids diving into a swiimming pool and it says that it was 115 there on that day. maybe you could send air conditioners to them......

I can sweat it with the best of them. Mrs. Lawnchair, though, freaks the heck out trying to sleep in hot air.

We just window-unit-A/C the 100-sq-ft bedroom. We have a couch in there, and bring the laptops there to surf. Doesn't cost much at all.

We also save a lot of electricity by using clotheslines most of the time. Still waiting to see Al Gore clip his boxers out behind his giant house. Then, I might start to listen to him a little more.

why don't the Klein Inquisition come to my house and MAKE ME turn it off?

He should stop telling other people what to do and follow through to his own advice first. I guarantee he has his AC full blast every chance he gets on his private jet.

Fuck heads. I hate that. Telling me what to do how dare this asshole tell me not to use MY air condition I paid for!

I keep the thermostadt on 76 and we are completely comfortable. When people come over I turn it down for them. When I go to some movie theaters and some other peoples houses I need a sweater. I never complain though like Joe Klein, I think that would be bad manners.

We hang our clothes on a clothesline instead of a dryer and in this Houston heat despite the humidity they get completely dry in about two hours. Why waste electricity (money).

What air? It is 58 degrees in Ohio right now!

I used to live in SoCal, where even on the hottest
day, a fan in the window was enough to bring comfort.

Now I live in Arkansas; the fan will ward off death-
but you need air conditioning to be comfortable
in the humidity.

The statement "but it's a dry heat" rings true.

The humidity sticks to your skin - it is more difficult
to cool down - moisture does not as readily evaporate
from your skin (which is the cooling process).

As people keep getting more obese, their 'winter coat' of insulating fat must make 70 feel like 90.

This asshole, Joe Klein doesn't even air condition his house. He boiled his brain from the heat and now he's completely flipped out. If he or any government storm troopers come to check on what temperatore my thermostadt is set on, I wiil be waiting for them with my Joe Horn autographed shotgun.

Posted by fwthom at 2008-07-03 10:18 PM | Reply | Flag

With paranoia like that, it's funny that you question others when it comes to a 'boiled brain'.

Are the black helicopters still circling overhead?

Out of protest of others trying to tell us how to live we've just turned my air con down 4 more degrees (and we're loving it):)

Posted by MSgt at 2008-07-03 10:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

WOW....You sure showed him!

WHAT A REBEL!!!

Hahaha. The Democrats have embraced a loser. They refuse to allow us to expand our energy supplies whether it's oil, nuclear, coal, or wind. Ted Kennedy alone took care of the wind turbine when he flexed his political muscle and ended the wind turbine project off the coast of Martha's Vineyard. He didn't want his view obstructed.

The Democrats don't want us to have more energy. They want Americans to hate America because that helps them win elections.

Whatever is good for America is bad for Democrats. Whatever is bad for America is good for Democrats.

The Democrats want America to suffer because they believe that's best for them politically.

Ted Kennedy alone took care of the wind turbine when he flexed his political muscle and ended the wind turbine project off the coast of Martha's Vineyard.

Actually, it was the combined power of the uber wealthy shiatheads of the Martha's Vineyard set who wielded the power but it was RFK Jr and Ted who opposed the Cape Wind Project politically and now other lefties are taking them to task fer their namby pamby NIMBY-esque hypocritical ways.

That sed, RFK Jr. emphatically denounces the ammendment recently proposed by Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska) that would have prohibitted all major offshore wind installations from being sited within one and a half miles of any commercial shipping routes.

He rejected it despite the fact that this ammendment would have sunk the Cape Wind Project.

Spud has a lot of respect fer RFK Jr's enviromental record but thinks he's "on the wrong boat" here.

Be Well.

SEANR

You were more interesting as TADOWE

Maybe Joe would find it better in Kazikstan.

The project type apartment buildings have ONE thermostat.

They run the heat at the same temp for the entire building from Nov thru April.

Can't change it. The gov't runs it.

Even if they have an early spring--the heat stays on.

Great efficiency by any gov't standards.

I lived for four years at Clark AB in the Philippines and only had ceiling fans while living on the Equator. Then, after retiring from the Air Force in '89 I lived in Boot Key Harbor in the Keys for 11 1/2 years on my sailboat on 12 volt power [charging my battery bank with solar panels]. I figure we've done our 'offset' for ourselves and my son's lifetime [until the coming ice age].

For the record - Do not believe that mankind is the cause of global warning (if it's happening) as if we are REALLY headed for a global warming spell, what caused the previous one approx 11,000 years ago? What is causing the shrinking the ice caps of Mars, etc. THE SUN dummie boys.

What idiots, after studying the cores of Terra's past, actually believe that our climate is static and that we have any substantial input to that change?

FYB

with thermostats routinely set at 68 degrees, and sometimes even 65 degrees

That's nuts... on vacation, sure I'll blast the AC, but at home where I'm paying for it, it never goes below 74 and its only there for a few hours at most...

while the above is enough to keep a sane person from moving to phoenix or tucson, you might want to look at flagstaff. it's got four seasons, snow, pine-trees and all the other comforts

You people are driving our property taxes up.

The ones that can't afford to go to Arizona go to Alamogorda, Cruces, etc.

They've turned a $30,000 adobe shack, in town in Marfa, into a $250,000 adobe shack.

In Marfa.

You've created the obnoxious, polluted, sere, left-wing shithole that is California.

Stay there.

Thanks.

"You've created the obnoxious, polluted, sere, left-wing shithole that is California."

I'll take California any day over that reactionary, racist pigsty known as Texas. You assholes dragged any black folk to death, lately?

I'll take California any day

Be my fucking guest.

That place is a fucking shithole.

They couldn't mint enough money for me to live there.

I don't mind the northeastern portion of the state---or even the desert around Blythe---but something went horrible wrong with the rest of it.

Those are the most obnoxious fucking people on earth.

Even more so than Columbians.

You racist shitheads dragged any black people to death, lately?

You assholes dragged any black folk to death, lately?

No, man.

Gas prices forced them all to get jobs.

You don't find 'em idly walking the streets like you used to.

How 'bout ya'll?

You stupid urbanite fucks still let black folk slaughter each other with automatic weapons in South Central and then make movies and CDs that glorify it?

Or burn their own fucking neighborhoods down?

Why of course you do.

They're just "expressing themselves as only the 'oppressed' know how to do", right?

Go sip a fucking latte in Malibu and think about it.

Then get back with me.

You forgot the Volvo and Birkenstocks you fucking moron.

Go jerk your cattle off, pinche.

Oooh.

A "jerk off cattle" joke from a guy in Michigan.

The fun never ends.

Why don't you go push a button all day on some assembly line for $60,000 a year.

Ooops!

You can't.

Not anymore.

Maybe you can move down here.

We got plenty of jobs---and a booming economy.

You can sleep in my well house until you get on your feet.

No amount of money would make up for living in Texas. Some 60 year old douchebag would probably shoot me in the back if I forgot my house keys and used the window.

Too busy stoning niggers and faggots as a child to play with gi joes, pinche?

Oh, hell yeah.

When I wasn't playing with snakes in church, that is.

No amount of money would make up for living in Texas.

I just said that same thing about living in California--a few posts above.

(See my 6th post up)

Some 60 year old douchebag would probably shoot me in the back if I forgot my house keys and used the window.

No.

He'd probably know who his neighbor was--and not mistake him for a coke-dealing burglar that was intruding upon a man's property with the intent of stealing from him.

But then again, he's probably not some little self-loathing liberal pussy from Michigan.

Other than talking to a shitbird like you, what have I done that indicates self loathing?

Telling me about the kinds of dolls you played with as a child.

For starters.

None.

Try again.

None.

Try again.

But you just wrote that you played with G.I. Joes.

Which is funny.

Because you strike me more as a "Smurfs" kinda guy.

You've expended you entertainment value to me on this thread, by the way.

It's a 100 here. screw this idiot

I find you rather dull, vulgar and predictable

Is that why you flock to my every post--like a moth to a lamp?

The self assuredness you project...

My perceived "self-assuredness" is a function of the shrieking, mouth-breathing stupidity of the goofy little cocksuckers I have the pleasure of dealing with.

That would be you, Francis.

Now go take a deep breath.

Jesus Loves You.

You're an insecure brat

Or is it the "self-assuredness"?

Or are you just flinging pop-psychology rocks with your slender little wrist?

Pinche- Go play with your smurf collection.

You're an insecure brat

Or is it the "self-assuredness"?

Insecure people feel the need to be cock sure about everything, or at least appear to. They can't handle doubt as they believe it to be a sign of weakness.

See: George W. Bush

ALEXANDRITE

Where Pinche is from in Texas has a population of about 200.

I wouldn't waste time on him. Obviously, he's got an insecurity complex or he wouldn't need to be such an asshole every time he comes around.

Obviously, he's got an insecurity complex

Gee, ya think?

Uh, didn't I say that?

He's sooo right! In Puerto Rico one January we went to a Chili's Restaurant one beautiful night. The temps were in the 70s and yet the restaurant kept the AC so low that frost was forming on the inside of the windows. It was so frikkin ridiculous, we left and went to a sea-side restaurant and had pina coladas by the sea. Muy mejor!

What is it with people who need to turn down the AC?

I'll take California any day over that reactionary, racist pigsty known as Texas. You assholes dragged any black folk to death, lately?

Posted by nullifidian

you are one sick motherfucker. and I AM NOT talking texan here....(ala seinfeld episode)....

Gas prices forced them all to get jobs.

You don't find 'em idly walking the streets like you used to.

God, you are racist fucking puke. Someone really failed you as a child. It shows.

Posted by Alexandrite at

and yet you have nothing to say to the piece of slime shit known as nulliwhatisfuckinbastard when he started it with the viscious attack.
and that means that you are just as much a sick asshole as that sumbitch.
sometimes you liberals are even more of pieces of shit than I even give you credit for.

I wouldn't waste time on him. Obviously, he's got an insecurity complex or he wouldn't need to be such an asshole every time he comes around.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

AU.....go back and read the thread and you will see that nullifidan and his boyfriend alex started all of this with nullifidans's totally uncalled for comment about the byrd killing in texas and then with alex's buttkissing of nullifidans comment with "ITS" tacet approval.....so you can talk about pinche if you want to, but anyone with any sense at all can see what happened.
and again we see the same old tired bullshit spewing from noted liberal fucks. only shit like the byrd murder happens in texas. in every other state, they sing kum ba ya and hold hands.

"you are one sick motherfucker. and I AM NOT talking texan here....(ala seinfeld episode)...."
Posted by bushlovertwo

Blow me, you knuckle-dragging retard. :)

I agree, I hate air conditioning. Everywhere I go it's always too damn cold.

What is it with people who need to turn down the AC?

Posted by townncountry

What is it with people who are in Puerto Rico and go to Chilli's? They did you a favor by running you out.

Bushlovertwo,

Is behaving like this what gets you out of bed every morning?

Listen morons.
The temperature today in vegas is predicted to be 113. Do you understand how hot that is?
NO. you dont.
if you live in "new england", colorodo, and northern california, you have NO CLUE.
people are DYING FROM THE HEAT. and yoru telling me that air conditioning is an option?
well so it breathing dude.

The temperature today in vegas is predicted to be 113.

Posted by KidDynamite

God's way of telling people there is no good reason for humans to live there?

Maybe the nomads have it right.

"The temperature today in vegas is predicted to be 113. Do you understand how hot that is?"

Yes.

Give it another 50 years.

Hey we need air conditioners to combat global warming.

Whoever thought up the scare tactic Global Warming needs strung up.(Not Literally Mind you) Global Warming is Bunk. Just another means to make the populace afraid. An afraid populace is a more controlable populace.

Larry

Great.

Larry and Ray demonstrating their copious stupidity as a team. How entertaining.

1896 Svante Arrhenius, "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground." Philosophical Magazine 41: 237-76.

1938 G.S. Callendar, "The Artificial Production of Carbon Dioxide and Its Influence on Climate." Quarterly J. Royal Meteorological Society 64: 223-40.

Oh is that why it's been so COOL this year. I mean we have had some lower 90 degree days. Too hot for Me but I am a wussy with regards to heat(Actually it's because I am fat) but it's been mighty cool this year. Sure doesn't seem the globe is warming now does it. What a fucking gasbag.

Larry

I'm convinced. This world needs more air conditioners to cool earth down.

YEAH!

Threads like this make my day!

You could compile a list of all the soft and weak that would never make it thru a time of hardship! I too have an AC I paid for, but I don't think that gives me license to be an idiot in its use!
So I say tp some of you Please be Wastefull, please speed up your own demise! Don't be a pussy about it, set that thermostat down to fifty --- the energy company will love you,OBL will love you and you can take pride in your "Fuckem'" to the troops who seem to do fine in the 115 heat that you can't tolerate for even short amount of time!

I'll think about when Washington and Al Gore & company takes the lead by trashing their air conditioners.

I try to run my air-con on low, walk around naked in my apartment if I can.

We run our A/C pretty hard during the midwest summers but today it's taking the day off. It helps to pick your spots (it's your money).

"I try to run my air-con on low, walk around naked in my apartment if I can.
Posted by Scrumplet"

is that when someone named you scrumplet?

all the best

Apparently this douche has never spent a summer in Fla.

"never spent a summer in Fla"

Only someone really, really, really stupid would do that.

Really stupid ...

We drove to Orlando recently.
Well, I still have the same Porsche we did it in.
We were passed by a towed double-wide half at 80 MPH; Shingles streaming.

WE were going 80. Got it?

"Hurricane wind shingle test," I mumbled.

Hopefully the sea will rise quickly and very, very high.

Hopefully the sea will rise quickly and very, very high.

Posted by Zatoichi

Holy Christ! He thinks he's Moses.

"never spent a summer in Fla"

Only someone really, really, really stupid would do that.

Really stupid ...

We drove to Orlando recently.
Well, I still have the same Porsche we did it in.
We were passed by a towed double-wide half at 80 MPH; Shingles streaming.

WE were going 80. Got it?

"Hurricane wind shingle test," I mumbled.

Hopefully the sea will rise quickly and very, very high.

Posted by Zatoichi at 2008-07-04 05:17 PM

This coming from someone who lives in a state that claims Duhbya as it's own.

Fuck you, your Porsche, and the more than likely surgically enhanced whore you stick your withered prick into.

Oh yeah, Max is burning in kitty hell.

Per the subject: I'll happily kill your aircon to make you feel good, but never mine - done hot weather with no recourse before: NEVER AGAIN.

RCADE- good choice dumping the majority of the alex/pinche conversation.

Here in Desert Hot Springs, CA, where the temperature routinely hits 110F, I keep the thermostat at 90F.

Since I am used to 90F weather, even 100F weather, turning on a fan takes care of the rest. I drink lots of water, am super comfy, and above all I'm not TOO DAMNED COLD. I'd go warmer, but my computer doesn't do so well.

It's a LOT easier to go outside when you haven't been sitting in a refrigerator all day. That means it's a LOT easier to take a walk, or do something halfway active. You don't get hit by that 'wall of heat' that everybody complains about. Since my house is a 'fixer' and had two kicked in doors, I spent part of my day today repairing the second broken door jamb with a nice steel reinforcing kit. It was only 104F with 20% humidity. Something I could take for hours while not in direct sunlight. A big fan pointed at me worked just fine for the outdoor project.

I've been to Arizona. It's fascinating to watch the puff of fog appear along the ground as doors open/close there. People are crazy/stupid. Same problem to a great extent here and at Palm Springs and the various other desert cities and towns.

People are trapped in their homes, and can't even make the 10-yard dash to their cars without some sort of self-starting device to get the A/C running in them. That's pathetic.