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Happy Fourth of July to all of you....I'll be off for a great weekend of fishing and relaxation. Enjoy the DR.

My daily missive-that-I-didn't-finish- reading from a Nigerian bank:

"I want to crave your indulgence on this information and hope you will give your cooperation to facilitate the execution..." herm

Happy 4th of July to the folks at the DR.

Here is a link on the Founding Fathers--

"Happy 4th of July to the folks at the DR."

4th of July? You IDIOTS! You missed it by 2 days.
- John Adams

Take Pride In Your Beer!
- Sam Adams

Sam Adams...brewer and patriot

Obama: 'The Last Frontier of Flip Flops'
Rick Moran

Ed Morrissey has a great post up at Hot Air about Obama's advisors giving three different answers to the question of where the candidate stands on Iraq in a matter of days.

Reading what his advisers are saying, you begin to see how Obama has been able to appear to be all things to all people on his Iraq withdrawal plans while dishonestly pandering to his base:

The last frontier of flip-flops approaches for Barack Obama, and even his surrogates can't seem to guess which way the wind blows on any given day. In three different appearances over the last two days, David Axelrod, Susan Rice, and Claire McCaskill all offered competing visions of Obama's policy on Iraq. First, we have Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist, insisting that his January 2007 plan was still operative yesterday: ..."hes always said that he would listen to the advice of commanders on the ground, that that would factor into his thinking. Hes also said we have to be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. So hes been very consistent on this point."

Ed Lasky points to this article that clearly shows Obama saying he would go ahead with a withdrawal regardless of what the generals said:

"Because the commander-in-chief sets the mission, Charlie. That's not the role of the generals. And one of the things that's been interesting a out the president's approach lately has been to say, 'Well, I'm just taking cues from General Petraeus.' Well, the president sets the mission. The general and our troops carry out that mission.

Senator Claire McCaskill, Obama's c-chair, confirmed the fact that Obama would not necessarily heed what the generals had to say:

However, on the same day, Senator Claire McCaskill Obamas campaign co-chair told MS-NBC that advice on the ground wouldnt deflect Obama from his commitment to withdraw troops or change his plans at all.

And finally, Obama's foreign policy adviser Susan Rice muddies the waters further:

He has said that the best military advice hes received leads us to believe that we can safely withdraw our forces at the pace of one to two combat brigades per month, and depending on the number of combat brigades he inherits, our best estimate is that that could be accomplished in roughly 16 months. Thats not a deadline. Thats a timetable, and obviously if Senator Obama has said on numerous occasions, he will listen to his commanders on the ground, he will follow and heed their advice as he decides how at the strategic level we must proceed. So he will do this very carefully and responsibly as he always said but he will do it.

Three advisers. Three different plans for Iraq while the candidate continues to insist to wild applause from his base that he will leave Iraq immediately.

The brazenness of this flip flopping is one thing. It is the rank dishonesty of a candidate seeking to be all things to all people that should worry us. Why? Because he will have more money than God in which to convince people of whatever he wishes to say.

And that should worry all Americans.

Scooter-what's Obama saying? I think he's the guy getting elected, not his advisers.
Or do you believe John McSame is hoping for another 9-11 before November?
After all, his top adviser is....

"Scooter-what's Obama saying?"

Seems to me that not so very long ago these same jokers were slamming Obama because he said he WOULD listen to the generals, and make allowances for the actual situation on the ground at the time.

Talk about flip-flop.

The founding fathers committed treason.

In the movie Shogun, there was a question about it.

The answer?

Treason is never right, unless you win!

Crime does pay - it's how America started.

AND, they had guns.

Hey Murph and Ride On ... the holiday is not
"The 4th of July"

the holiday is "Independence Day"

Shame on you

;-)

...ok, ok....but, I don't do the "shame" thing.....hehehe. Besides I'm celebrating my grandson's first birthday tomorrow...the 4th of July.

Thoughts on patriotism today from the two candidates.

McCain:

Besides I'm celebrating my grandson's first birthday tomorrow...the 4th of July.

Posted by ride_on

He's a Yankee Doodle Dandy.

A real George M. Cohan

Hava=hellava-Or something like that.

Governments added 29,000 jobs, and private sector employment fell 91,000. Businesses have become too pessimistic about the outlook for the economy, and the capacity of the Bush Administration and Federal Reserve to manage it. While exports remain strong, domestic demand remains weak and shows few signs of recovering.

The Labor Department reported the unemployment rate steady at 5.5 percent, but factoring in the number of adults giving up job search, the unemployment rate is closer to 7.2 percent. As the economy slows further this figure will likely exceed 8 or even 9 percent.

Six straight months of job losses are the strongest evidence yet that the economy has slipped into a recession of uncertain depth and duration. The banking crisis, high oil prices and the ballooning trade deficit China are causing employers to relocate to Asia rather than be caught in the U.S. Tsunami.

China is controlling domestic prices for gasoline and other refined products, subsidizing oil imports with the dollars it obtains through its purchases of U.S. dollars to sustain an undervalued yuan, and increasing demand for oil more rapidly than it is contracting in the United States. The combined dynamic of U.S.-Chinese integration and Chinese intervention in currency and oil markets is to drive up exports and growth in China, drive up gasoline and other energy prices in the United States, and slow growth and increase unemployment in the United States.

The current recession has its origins in questionable banking practices and a breakdown of investor trust in the integrity of Wall Streets most venerable banks and investment houses.
Federal Reserve regulators, apparently lacking appreciation for the gravity of these problems, have focused mostly on urging banks to raise new capital without effective parallel efforts to reform bank business models and practices. The market for mortgage backed securities issued by commercial banks has evaporated.

For similar reasons banks cannot raise additional new capital. Investors that initially came to the rescue of Citigroup and others have been burned by falling share prices.

The Feds inadequate response to the credit crisis is undermining the exchange for the dollar against the euro. Cheap dollars permit Europeans to bid up the price of oil, further pushing up U.S. gasoline prices and exacerbating the U.S. economic slowdown.

Treasury and Federal Reserve policies toward China and the banks are manufacturing higher oil prices, inflation and recession. It is no surprise the economy is hemorrhaging jobs.

Excerpted from Peter Morici @ Counterpunch

Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.

Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.

Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.

Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.

They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. Many lost their lives, more lost their fortunes, but none lost their honor.

What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists, eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated, but they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was all but destroyed and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wifes bedside as she was dying. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year, he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.

All gave their fortunes to the fight for Independence.

Just like our leaders today.

As you celebrate the 4th of July please try to safe as yo light up the sky with fireworks. Please do not aim the bottle rockets at low flying planes or homeland security will be wanting you for lunch. Please do point the bottle rockets at the offices of the other party.

Carry your insurance card and ID in case you have an accident. Remember the first thing medical people check is your insurance coverage; not your severed hand.

Chinese methods used to interrogate Gitmo detainees
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Thursday July 3, 2008

The New York Times revealed on Wednesday that a chart of permissible interrogation techniques for detainees at Guantanamo Bay came directly out of a 1957 study of methods used by the Chinese to extract confessions from American prisoners during the Korean War.

The study by sociologist Albert D. Biderman was later used to train American soldiers in how to hold out against similar techniques. That training program was then drawn upon by the CIA and the military for the techniques used at Guantanamo.

According to the Times, "The recycled chart is the latest and most vivid evidence of the way Communist interrogation methods that the United States long described as torture became the basis for interrogations both by the military at the base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and by the Central Intelligence Agency. ... Mr. Bidermans 1957 article described 'one form of torture' used by the Chinese as forcing American prisoners to stand 'for exceedingly long periods,' sometimes in conditions of 'extreme cold.'"

Bush Tours America To Survey Damage Caused By His Disastrous Presidency.

'Pregnant Man' Gives Birth to Girl

"Bush Tours America To Survey Damage Caused By His Disastrous Presidency."

ROTFLMAO!

NUTCASE

Thanks, WE needed that1!!

Goat, Chris and the other gastros on here, I tried something very interesting last night Armenian Pomegranate wine. At first swig it starts out as very tart on the palate, but there is the definite taste of pomegranate, then as you swallow it warms your whole throat and esophagus right down into the tummy. It's a little like a light port, for want of a better description. You should try it, I really enjoyed it. (And its HEALTHY)

LBD made some Pomegranate wine?

Considering yer from England and all wouldn't that be Pommie-granate wine?

Sorry, Spud could nae resist.

Been out to the pub wif me Kiwi and Aussie friends.

Weak is Spud. Laws yes!

Be Well.

All gave their fortunes to the fight for Independence.

~Nutcase.

Thanx fer that post, NC.

A real eye opener sez Spud.

Be Well.

Spud - no I bought some pomegranate wine and good it was too!

PS) I think snopes has totally trashed that 4th July e-mail.

Spud - no I bought some pomegranate wine and good it was too!

~Lil Brit Different

Actually, it sounds like a damn fine glass of plonk to Spud.

Prolly have to go to one of them specialty wine places to find some but Spud is gonna keep an eye out.

/Spud has lotsa eyes so that's no hardship. ^_^

PS) I think snopes has totally trashed that 4th July e-mail.

Whaa?

Spud googled "Snopes 4th of July" and found this...

LilBrit

tried something very interesting last night Armenian Pomegranate wine. At first swig it starts out as very tart on the palate, but there is the definite taste of pomegranate, then as you swallow it warms your whole throat and esophagus right down into the tummy. It's a little like a light port, for want of a better description. You should try it, I really enjoyed it. (And its HEALTHY)

Alcohol and HEALTHY too. Such a deal!
I live next door to Glendale, CA, a city which has the largest Armenian population outside of Armenia (more than 80,000 mostly from Iran) so it has quite a few Armenian markets and restaurants. Many Armenians also live in my town (and on my street) and sometimes in the evenings you can smell the kabobs and different ethinic dishes they have cooking as they do lots of roasting outdoors -- delicious! I could call a couple local Armenian markets and ask what they'd recommend serving with the pomegranate winr. I read it has a slightly sweet, fruity taste. I'll bet is would be very good with a strong cheese to balance the flavor.

LilBrit

liquor = liqueur

liquor = liqueur

~CC

Three woman are sitting around discussing their boyfriends nicknames.

First lady sez, "I call my man 'CocaCola' cus he's the Real Thing"

Second lady sez, "I call my man '7 Up' cos he's got 7 inches and they are always up"

Third lady sez, "I call my boyfriend 'Amaretto'"

"Amaretto"? sez the first lady in a puzzled voice.

"Aint that some kind of fancy liquor?" asks the second.

Third lady sez, "Damn right he is"

** Spud ducks **

Be Well.

/off fer dins. BBL.

Sorry to pop your patriotic ballon, nutcase, but check out your little letter about the founding fathers on Snopes.

Spud - you are so bad! (but funny all the same)

Okay this is bizarre, I mean really twilight zone strange. I have seven cats Lari is all black, Nelson is all black, Alpha is black with a white nose and white feet, Cadbury is a grey tabby, Con is grey and white, Arnamade is an orange tabby. Peaches is peach coloured as you can imagine. The other day peaches gave birth to six kittens (before I could get her fixed dammnit) okay so she has six kittens two are all black (Lari and Nelson), one is black with white feet and a white nose (ALpha), one is a grey tabby (Cadbury), one is an orange tabby (Arnamade), one is grey (Con), what are the odds of a cat giving birth to the exact color matches of the cats that you already have (and have had for years) this is simply strange.

Chris - I was listening to my local gardening show on local radio the other day and the talk about pomegranetes was basically we can' grow them here, you will get a nice tree, you will get blooms but you will never ever get fruit.... durn it.

Spud - you are so bad! (but funny all the same)

Ta fer that.

what are the odds of a cat giving birth to the exact color matches of the cats that you already have?

The odds.

So high that Vegas won't even put out a line on that happening.

Hey, btw, yer a heckuva photog and yer luff fer critters even the lowly spider is commendable.

One question...

3 days in line fer a Osmond brothers concert?

Seriously?

Oh Manchester, so much to answer for.

/Deth is bad Spud.
//Spud is use the google.

Be Well.

Happy 4th of July to the folks at the DR."

4th of July? You IDIOTS! You missed it by 2 days.
- John Adams

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at

yeah, I just read about that.....

and also they werent the first ones to declare independence.

in may of 1775, in mecklenburg NC, a convention met to act on new grievances...
and they wrote...."we the citizens of mecklenburg county so hereby dissolve the political bands which have connected us to the mother country.....we do hereby declare ourselves free and independent people...to the maintenance of which independence, we solemnnly pledge to each other our mutual cooperation , our lives, our fortunes, and our most sacred honor." so what holiday do these people use?

AND also according to george will.....the declaration wasnt read out loud until july 8th....so was THAT INdependence day?
or was it
or was it june 10 when congress voted to appoint people to come up with a declaration.

regardless of all this........
happy fourth of july and remember its not ALL about eating and baseball and fireworks.....to me its about these founders and each and every man and woman who gave their lives so that we COULD have picincs and live in the greatest country on God's green earth.......

BLT,

How many countries have you lived in? Iraq needs you now. Show us you mean what you say. Act on your beliefs. You could be a hero and even win a medal.

4th of July? You IDIOTS! You missed it by 2 days.
- John Adams

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at

yeah, I just read about that.....

I keep reading that, too, but the very top of the document says, "In Congress July 4, 1776"

To me, that pretty much defines the date.

Lil' Brit...did you happen to observe the conception? When a female cat is in heat, multiple toms will gather and establish the pecking order for the evening. When she thinks there are enough of them, she submits and a kitty gang bang ensues. Your post didn't include a breakdown of the sex of your cats, or state how many of them were spayed/neutered, so I'm assuming that there was only one female and the rest were toms with all their gear intact.

so nutcase.....what tHE FUCK are you talking about.........nevermind....you dont know and I dont give a shit.

but here is another happening on the 4th..

the hot dog eating contest.
so what are the odds that kobeashi(SP) wins it again........

Before this nooner becomes obsolete...

Kobayashi was Keyser Soze's attorney. Oh, you meant Takeru "Tsunami" Kobayashi. Are there odds in Vegas?
Happy 4th, sir.

"And like that........he's gone."

Dutch - all my boys are fixed, so it must be some neighborhood cats, which I THOUGHT were all fixed, obviously some out of towners came aboard, cause damn I haven't seen a litter like this since Alpha last gave birth (about ten years ago) cause she was a serious trollop, I mean Alpha would give birth and it was like at least five fathers were involved in that one.

Spud - ya googled me? I am flattered. Thank you for the compliments on my photography, I am still learning, and my greatest joy is taking pictures of my critters, they are my joy, and yes I even like spiders, (how many women can say that?) Right now I am concentrating on my black swallowtail catterpillars, (I plant bronze fennel just for them) they are hatching, and eating, and pupating right before my eyes, I am just waiting for one to turn into a butterfly while I am armed with my new camera. Doesn't get any better than that.

Oh and as for 3 days in line for an Osmond concert? I was 14, give me a teeny break? (Although Donny's recent concert on DVD is on my watch on a regular basis list, he is a helluva singer and a consumate entertainer).