Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs

Jim Rogers, who in April 2006 correctly predicted oil would reach $100 a barrel and gold $1,000 an ounce, said investors should steer clear of the dollar as the U.S. economy slows and favor commodities this year. The dollar has slipped 7.7 percent against the euro and 5.9 percent versus the yen in 2008 as the Federal Reserve cut interest rates to stave off a U.S. recession. Oil prices have doubled in the past 12 months, while gold is up 44 percent.

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People are starting to call it the American Peso now.

i'm trying to avoid the dollar, but our boss will not pay us in euros...

Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to avoid the USD. So, if it goes to zero proper, then I am, using Tommy's words from Snatch, "proper fucked".

Darwin in action. My own damn fault. Meh.

Life must be pretty good when you can just say to avoid dollars.

I'd like to have some just to be able to avoid them.

if anybody can afford to do so, i've heard the iraqi dinari is a very good investment and has no way to go but up and they'll still take usd at last check.

And McCain says hey....I'll make inflation permanent! And righties PRETEND there even is a choice this time. A vote for McCain is a vote for financial ruin.

After you have hoarded your gold, watch as the gov't takes away your gold.

It has happened before...

Bush's FAULT

He and Dick are very happy with this outcome

Beginning of the end.

Good riddance.

Well I know that DICK has a good deal of his investment $$$$ overseas, but dumbya still owns plenty of US debt in his investments. You know, those IOU's he said were worthless when he tried to scare America into letting him rape the social security system.

Thank You George W. Bush!

Tosser, shut up you dumb-ass paki. That seems to be the only thing pakis are good at, hoping with glee that better countries go through hard times. First India, now the U.S. Go back to fucking your goat. Make sure she's wearing her scary black death robe. You guys make female goats wear those too, right, or is just human females? I got confused because you treat both like farm animals...

Staink is a feisty li'l bastard, ain't he?

"...but our boss will not pay us in euros..."

But all those free fries and Big Macs help make up for it, right?

I'll buy that for a do....never mind....

I am in total agreement with this avoidance of the dollar. In fact, due to my forced sedentary life, I am in a position to help all of you avoid those dollars. Just send them to me at the DR and no doubt "R" and the Gerbils will forward it to me. Please send only money without any paper trail. The Gerbils and the boss will take a small handling charge so please include 10% in the form of a cashiers check made out to-Gerbils, in care of The DR.

Please no thanks are needed. I have the time to clean up, no dispose of this useless paper. I'm just the kind of person.

Check the article author's name and location and possibly draw your own conclusions about his motives.

Cheers

After you have hoarded your gold, watch as the gov't takes away your gold.

It has happened before...

No fear. There's no money in it for the feds. Too many ignorant and confused Americans afraid of gold. They rather go down with the dollar, their homes, their stocks, their bonds, their pensions and their jobs.

dave - we've been boycotting mcd's for a couple of years now. now, if you want to talk pad thai...or a chest full of mudbugs...

Tosser, shut up you dumb-ass paki. That seems to be the only thing pakis are good at, hoping with glee that better countries go through hard times. First India, now the U.S.


I have always said that India, Pakistan and China, are moving up, while America is going down.

In 50 years, you'll turn into what Bangladesh is today.

I am happy to see I am being proven right. The beginning of the end.

"In 50 years, you'll turn into what Bangladesh is today."

Fortunately our entire country doesn't exist in a floodplain. We might sometimes be dumb, but we aren't THAT dumb. *burp*

weird that the article was written by Zhang Shidong but he seems like a pretty reputable source of info:

labs.daylife.com

Wouldn't China be interested in propping the dollar up? I mean, they own it, don't they? When it drops, they lose on their investment don't they?

yeah, china liked the strong dollar but such wasn't sustainable. since they loosened things up the RMB has appreciated about 15% against the $ this year. that is with the chinese stockmarket in the toilet.

i get paid in RMB.

Looks like another hit today as the EU countries will start raising rates to curtail inflation..welcome to the new depression..

Beginning of the end.

Good riddance.

Posted by Tosser

what for Americans? We still have a shitload of weapons and if it gets too bad we will come take your shit food and all.. so wishing bad on the US of A is a drowning man scenario.

i get paid in RMB.

Posted by visiter

good luck with that..I wouldn't gloat too soon.

If Congress cancelled the Bush Tax Cut for the Rich early the dollar would begin regaining its value.
If Obama could just move far ahead in the polls and announce the same thing it would begin restoring faith in the dollar.
If we continue on the Bush economic slide into hell the dollar will be almost worthless by January 2009.

OK, now all y'all who say I'm crazy pile on but remember I'm the one who has been predicting exactly what is happening all along ever since 2000.
Tell me it ain't so and I will laugh in your face.

Yeah, you're more of a wake-up-on-the-beach-with-Mike kind of a guy, aren't you?

FF Danforth

http://www.everbank.com - get out of the dollar easily (I recommend NOK, SEK, and SGD)

Buy some silver and some gold and do not store it in a safety deposit box (thats how it was confiscated before).

If you do not want to buy gold coins then buy high quality gold link necklaces and bracelets so they can be cut.

Do keep some currency (a couple grand) on hand (ie not in bank) when TSHTF

We still have a shitload of weapons and if it gets too bad we will come take your shit food and all.. so wishing bad on the US of A is a drowning man scenario.


We will gladly give you our food... no need to take.... AFTER we flavor it with shit.

How is that for a scenario, Champ?

The slide of America becoming part of the third world starts....

Thieves lifting manhole covers
Lids attract street crime as prices for scrap metal soar, economy sags

By Stefanie Frith
USA TODAY

Cities and counties are battling manhole-cover thefts, a crime spree that police tie to the weak economy.

Hundreds of 200-pound covers have disappeared in three months in California, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Georgia as scrap metal prices pop up.

"It's a sign of the times," says Sgt. Jay Baker of the Cherokee County Sheriff's Office in Georgia, where 28 manhole covers disappeared in April and May. "When the economy gets bad, people start stealing iron."

It's the first year he has seen such thefts since he started with the department 16 years ago.


www.usatoday.com

Cawdor -- Welcome to the Retort. If Nok = Nokia(?), then what are SEK and SGD? What's in it ofr you to suggest these alternatives?

As Aristotle said, democracy is the political stage immediately preceding oligarchy. That's what the economy is now evolving into.

The reason U.S. labor has lost its competitiveness is not simply a race to the bottom. To see why U.S. exports are being priced out of world markets, you need to look not only at the take-home pay of workers, but also at what employers are not investing to raise capital productivity, and what they don't get from government in the form of basic infrastructure support.

One reason why employers have not invested as much in raising the productivity of their plant and equipment is that they are saddled with having to pay out more of their cash flow as interest to bondholders and banks, and dividends to assuage shareholder activists, the new euphemism for financial raiders.

U.S. corporate philosophy has been more driven by knee-jerk ideology than by enlightened self-interest. General Motors has pointed out that it has to pay enormous health care costs that its foreign competitors don't. Some sixty years belatedly it's finally discovered that socialized medicine is more efficient that health care privatized by predatory financial and insurance operators. Government services don't build in interest rate costs, dividends, exorbitant management remuneration, stock options and legal fees. All this absorbs a big part of the corporate expense for its work force without raising labor's living standards in the process.

Meanwhile, educating doctors, dentists and nurses is much less costly abroad. Here, they emerge from medical school with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, and then have to take on more debt to set up their offices, then they need to buy expensive liability insurance. Once they get on an HMO schedule, they usually have to wait for a year or so to actually get paid. Meanwhile, they have to hire their own full-time bookkeepers just to deal with the HMOs. Doctors, dentists and nurses are being put on rations.

Most of all, the price of labor reflects the high cost of housing here mainly the cost of carrying a home mortgage plus non-mortgage debt. Labor doesn't benefit from these costs. And as matters have turned out, industry hasn't benefited either. It's the price the U.S. economy as a whole is paying for having become financialized and privatized in a dysfunctional way.

The idea that a worse economy will be self-curing is IMF anti-labor ideology and Chicago School propaganda. This is indeed what Nobel Economic Prizes are given for, I grant you. But it's Junk Economics. A falling dollar threatens to become self-reinforcing. For starters, dollar-denominated stocks, bonds and real estate are worth less and less in terms of euros, sterling or other harder and foreign currencies. This doesn't provide much incentive for foreigners to invest here. And if we go into a recession (not to speak of depression), there will be even fewer profitable opportunities to invest.

U.S. import dependency will continue to rise as the economy de-industrializes that is, as it is further financialized. U.S. overseas military spending will throw yet more dollars onto the world's foreign exchange markets. So a weak economy here does NOT mean that the dollar will strengthen; it means we have a bad investment climate! Austerity will make us more dependent on foreign countries. Just look at what has happened when the IMF has imposed austerity plans on Third World debtors. And remember, last time when Robert Rubin was given a free hand, in reforming Russia under Clinton, the result was industrial collapse and bankruptcy.

Excerpted from a Mike Whitney Interview @ Counterpunch

Sorry

NOK= Norwegian Krone

SGD = Singapore Dollar

SEK = Singapore Krone


These 3 economies have very sound fundamentals with good trade surpluses and an agressive monetary policy focused on figting inflation which means they will not hesitate to aloow the currencies appreciate.

NOK and SGD are the best while SEK is a little more speculative. The Australian Dollar gets a lot of press but their economy isn't as solid as the 3 I have mentioned IMHO


Thanks for the salutations.

Sorry didn't see the last question. There is nothing in it for me ...

Just passing advice that has worked for me.

Please do the research and see the 1,2,5yr charts showing the appreciation of these currencies against the dollar on any FOREX website to verify my claims.

As for the jewelry and cahs on hand, I read a great blog by an Argentinian passing on what experiences were like there when their currency collapsed in 2001-2 as the dollar is heading now.

Thanks C. I'll check the suggestions out.

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