-In effect, they convinced themselves that he was a transformational figure behind a centrist facade. They may have had it backwards.

Where is that Moment of Clarity Award?

Obama, when elected, won't even have a choice about being transformational or not. The economy will be in such disaray that he will be forced to take some rather drasitic action, far more drastic than anything Clinton ever did. The times will dictate much of Obama's presidency, the bills left over by Bush and his crony administration will demand that not only the Bush tax cut for the rich be allowed to expire but other means of restoring the value of the dollar will also need to be found. Obama's presidency will either be transformational or the US will not be able to sustain superpower status many more years.

There is a pattern here, which goes back at least to Nixon. Democrats run to the left to obtain the Democratic nomination. Republicans run to the right to obtain the Republican nomination. Then they both frantically run to the center, hoping most people pay little attention to the primaries and remember even less.

We need someone intelligent and healthy to deal with the fucing mess we're in. We probably need to default on our debts and create a new currency.

and LETS look at his move to the middle...of course some people call them .......LIES......and/or flip flops.....(isnt it about time we retired that line).....

all of the following info from column from pulitizer winning writer........ charles krauthammer

1)oct 24,2007....quote from bill burton..obama spokesman..

"to be clear, barak will support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telephone communications companies"

and NOW.....obama now says he will vote IN FAVOR of the new fisa bill that gives them immunity...

2)during the primary he THRASHED NAFTA......pledging to take "THE HAMMER" to canada and mexico and threatened unilateral abrogation

and TODAY......he calls that rhetoric 'overheated' and endorses the comment from advisors that the anti trade stuff was "POPULIST POSTURING"

3)said he would meet with 'NO PRECONDITIONS" with iran's little turd.
and now....there would be preperations being spun into fumctional equilivant of preconditions....

4)"I can no more disown(jwright) than I can disown my own white grandmother"

three months later he DID JUST THAT and embraced his grandma and the "GREAT RACE SPEECH" was now inoperative. because he threw his grandmother to the wolves and then embraced her when it was politically expediant

5) he promised to work with mccain on campaign spending and to use public finaincing with his written and SIGNED Pledge and we all know all about that........

and now......in the words of krauthamer....he goes willie sutton......'thats where the money is"

and the press forgets it all just as you DR liberals do each and every day...

but one thing these LIES do is to move him to the middle just to get elected....so what do you raving leftwingers think about this move...or is it JUST to get elected?

"... he was a transformational figure behind a centrist facade. They may have had it backwards."

Posted by Corky

My jaw dropped when I read that line earlier this morning.

A centrist figure behind a transformational facade.... with all the tacking right of the past couple weeks, its not unreasonable to suggest so.

I think Krugman may be voting Nader

but one thing these LIES do

I would like to officially change the word lies to flip flops....and I still hate that term but you know what I mean.
of course if it were on the other foot....the left would call them changes of policy for the good of the country..

After the "no nation building" Bush it seems absolutely ridiculous for BLT to be accusing anyone of bing a flip flopper, especially with John McCain flip flopping on virtually every single issue.
I think Obama realizes that he needs to get elected, evaluate the Congress, and figure out then how to dig our way out of the shit pile Bush has created.

I'll take Krugman's word that someone is or isn't a centrist as much as you guys on the Left would take Bill Kristol's word on the same subject.

Krugman ever admit he was wrong about Bush bringing back the draft btw?

Kristol ever admit he was wrong about invading Iraq btw??

Obama realizes that he needs to get elected, evaluate the Congress, and figure out then how to dig our way out of the shit pile Bush has created.

Hammer-Nail

Obama? Centrist? You have got to be kidding!

but one thing these LIES do is to move him to the middle just to get elected....so what do you raving leftwingers think about this move...or is it JUST to get elected?

What happened? He had his meeting with the Bilderbergers in the first week of June. They explained to him what change means. He understands and is shifting positions to properly represent the Elite. THAT is change that I believe in.

The real question the right wants answered...why won't Obama give up sound bites they can easily use to paint him as a commie??? Why is he playing smart politics when they would be much happier with an easily demonized radical???

You friggin' right wing ideologue idiots. Look at where stubborn, blind, screw the changing circumstances philosophy has gotten us.

Governance by manifesto doesn't work.

The real question the right wants answered...why won't Obama give up sound bites they can easily use to paint him as a commie???

I don't want him doing that now... I'm pissed the the whole Rev. Wright thing broke early... now come October/November, for many people that will be old news.

Hopefully there will be some other fun left for an October surpise... he'll have to get a lot more specific and do a lot more talking very soon... we'll see what happens then.

Gotta love it how everything the right has thrown at the wall has yet to stick. But hell, keep firing!

Gotta love it how everything the right has thrown at the wall has yet to stick.

You really think the Rev. Wright stuff didn't stick or will stick again in October? Some PAC is going to run with those clips in a national campaign... its not a question of if it will hurt him, its how much...

BTW EP, what has the "Right" actually thrown at Obama? Everything so far has been thrown at him by Hillary Clinton, and though they were political opponents in the Primary they are still members of the same political party and both have the same goal of a Democrat in the White House as opposed to the Republican, so naturally she was not going after him as hard as the GOP will...

I don't want him doing that now... I'm pissed the the whole Rev. Wright thing broke early... now come October/November, for many people that will be old news.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-06-30 11:19 AM

You really think the Rev. Wright stuff didn't stick or will stick again in October? Some PAC is going to run with those clips in a national campaign... its not a question of if it will hurt him, its how much...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-06-30 11:25 AM

Who said that hope isn't part of the right's platform?

I gotta admire the right, no matter how bad things get, no matter how badly their leaders fuck up this country, they stay loyal no matter what. Rob is the perfect example of the blind partisan, thinking that a victory won with personal attacks will somehow alleviate the economic problems he and his own child will face as a direct consequence of right wing leadership.

Rob is the perfect example of the blind partisan

I've said on here several times now that my support for McCain is anything but strong, and that I am seriously considering voting for Obama. Also here in Jersey I voted for Governor Corzine... but you're right GO REPUBLICANS!

will somehow alleviate the economic problems he and his own child will face as a direct consequence of right wing leadership.

Posted by danni

Under Right Wing Leadership, my economic situation has only improved over the past 7 years, and over the next 4 years should only increase (exponentially). And my daughter is 8 months old... maybe plans will change, but I was thinking she doesn't have to get a job until she can walk and eat solid foods. Maybe we have different parenting styles though.

"Under Right Wing Leadership, my economic situation has only improved over the past 7 years"

Baloney. You think it has but when you factor in the amount of debt that has been incurred in your name by those right wing leaders you have lost money during these past 7-1/2 years and the dollar is still losing value. Just because you haven't directly felt the consequences yet, don't worry you will and your child will. There is no free lunch, fight wars without the taxes to pay for them...the bill eventually comes due. When your wife is practicing medicine I don't want to hear the whining about the taxes necessary to bay down the deficit those rightwingers ran up.

Just because you haven't directly felt the consequences yet, don't worry you will and your child will.

Fear mongerers like you said the same thing to my parents during the Reagan years... that their kids (me) would be screwed by his debt and they were mortgaging my future... as you say... Baloney.

"A centrist figure behind a transformational facade.... with all the tacking right of the past couple weeks, its not unreasonable to suggest so."

A couple of weeks? Some of us have been saying this for months.

Yes, Nulli. This is not news to anyone who looks beyond the labels slapped on the various candidates. And great minds think alike...

".. that their kids (me) would be screwed by his debt and they were mortgaging my future..."

They were missing one huge fact which we cannot avoid: the twin tsunamis of Medicare and SS for the baby boomers. The two things which delayed this for so long---boomers in their earning years and profligate borrowing---will become the albatrosses as the boomers go from producers to users. The large numbers are staggering. Bush could not have picked a worse time to saddle the government with ever-increasing debt burdens. There are three ways out: inflation, taxation, or reset. These folks seem willing to settle for the first.

But don't fool yourself: Look at the ages of the guys who warn "our kids and grandkids will pay...": they're 70-80. I'm the kid. You're the grandkid. And your beautiful daughter was just born with...how much national debt?!?

"This is not news to anyone who looks beyond the labels slapped on the various candidates."

Just don't tell it to "Obama-is-a-naked-Marxist" Goofy, er, Murphy. The cognitive dissonance would cause her head to explode.

And your beautiful daughter was just born with...how much national debt?!?

Posted by Danforth

Who knows... tens of thousands? who gives a shit, its not like she's going to get a bill every month starting on her 18th birthday that's going to crush her financially...

Reagan's supposed debt was fixed during the 90s before I ever had a job... this debt will get fixed too... Everything will be fine, it will all work out... then some other president will come along and the debt will go up again, then another president will come along and it will go down...

I'm sorry I just don't buy into this, "mortaging our children's futures" nonsense... its just another fear tactic, like what GOPers use with Terrorism.

"who gives a shit, its not like she's going to get a bill every month starting on her 18th birthday that's going to crush her financially... "

No, what'll happen is the government won't have enough money to build good roads because so much $$ is going to cover interest on the debt and Medicare payments to the boomers. They won't have money for good schools because so much $$ is going to cover interest on the debt and SS payments to the boomers. She'll have to pay higher taxes and/or face higher inflation. So it'll definitely affect her. The annual government outlay for interest on the debt was 11% when Bush took office. It's now 16.6% (a rise of 50%!) and slated to spike once Bush leaves office.

"Reagan's supposed debt was fixed"

Reagan never had 16.6% going to service the debt. Not even 11%, for that matter.

"I'm sorry I just don't buy into this, "mortaging our children's futures" nonsense..."

You don't have to. Statisticians and Actuaries have seen this coming for decades. But you're free to pretend otherwise if you choose.

most people are centrist anyways. I think the prez should represent the will of the people.

Paul: Next time, include some concrete examples and facts to support your navel-gazing. I think you are correct, but you didn't further the conversation, you just said 'there's a conversation...' then ended with a shrug.

"Fear mongerers like you said the same thing to my parents during the Reagan years"

ER....gas isn't $4.00+ where you live and still rising????
Prices for virtually everything else aren't rising????

"Reagan's supposed debt was fixed during the 90s before I ever had a job... this debt will get fixed too..."

No it wasnt' and this won't be either. The biggest difference though is that Reagan screwed the economy while Bush has totally fucked the economy.

Rob is just a partisan hack who disregards the facts so that he can justify his phony positions.

No, what'll happen is the government won't have enough money to build good roads because so much $$ is going to cover interest on the debt and Medicare payments to the boomers. They won't have money for good schools because so much $$ is going to cover interest on the debt and SS payments to the boomers. She'll have to pay higher taxes and/or face higher inflation. So it'll definitely affect her. The annual government outlay for interest on the debt was 11% when Bush took office. It's now 16.6% (a rise of 50%!) and slated to spike once Bush leaves office

No fear mongering here at all...

If this even does start to happen, its not like we can't fix the situation... even if it means fucking over those boomers for the good of the rest of the country.

Rob is just a partisan hack who disregards the facts so that he can justify his phony positions.

Posted by danni

you use economic fear mongering in the same way evangelicals claim gay marriage is going to destroy this country.

even if it means fucking over those boomers for the good of the rest of the country.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

It may come to that, rob, but remember those boomers, current and future members of the AARP, are living longer all the time and they VOTE... selfishly or otherwise is a topic for another conversation.

They won't stop being the nations largest demographic until most of them are dead, and by then, how old are you and I going to be? near AARP eligibility ourselves?

"you use economic fear mongering in the same way evangelicals claim gay marriage is going to destroy this country."

hahahaha! "Economic fear mongering".....that's a new one. I don't think it is fear mongering with $4.00 gas, falling home values, bankruptcies and foreclosures up.....and Congress sending Economic Stimulus checks......if there isn't anything to fear then why the hell are they mailing out checks????

"even if it means fucking over those boomers for the good of the rest of the country."

Or....more likely and more appropriately....taxing the haves! TAx the rich just like we have done since the thirties until....Ronnie Raygun decided....deficits don't matter.....get a clue Rob.....deficits do matter.

"I gotta admire the right, no matter how bad things get, no matter how badly their leaders fuck up this country, they stay loyal no matter what."

Yep, almost reminds you of the left sticking up for Clinton (take your pick) all these years through thick and thin till Obama came along. Now the left wants to wash their hands of the Clinton machine and pretend they never worshiped the ground they walked on. They have their new messiah to worship and defend at all costs usually at the cost of bashing and degrading anyone that disagrees with them. Loyalty for the left now has new meaning and conviction. They live on hope and change regardless of what that may mean.

if there isn't anything to fear then why the hell are they mailing out checks????

I didn't say that the economy was doing great... just that you're painting a terrible picture and playing on fears to try to sway votes the same way the GOP has done so with terrorism and gays.

Yeah, the economy has slowed, but recessions happen... our economy goes through cycles. We've had 7 years of growth and low unemployment, a downturn isn't all that shocking.

Obama is not and never will be a centrist. Just like all liberal democrats they must run as something other than what they are in order to get elected

Rob you can pretend that this is just a typical cyclical turn of the economy if you want but sorry it ain't. We have not had 7 years of growth and low unemployment, we have had 7 years of stagnant wages and home equity liquidation to support life styles.
The Bush economy was never healthy and was just based on borrowing. You'll see the results in the upcoming months and most economists don't predict anything pretty. This is the real issue that should be the discussion but isn't on corporate media.

We have not had 7 years of growth and low unemployment

Yes we have... you can very easily look up those numbers

"Yes we have... you can very easily look up those numbers"

and the people to figure those numbers can easily change the criteria.....like you aren't really unemployed if you don't qualify for unemployment benefits.....like you really aren't unemployed if you've been looking for over six months....Like the fact that much of the growth was the growth of home equity which then evaporated.

Liars can figure and figures can lie.

"No fear mongering here at all... "

Fear mongering? Hardly. I'm merely reporting the obvious, to anyone capable of crunching a large number.

Yes we have... you can very easily look up those numbers

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Rob, just two things I want to mention here:

1. you should take a look at the changes made in determining the unemployment rate and what counts as fully employed, and

2. if all the benefits of increased productivity go to the top of the wage earners, while those at the bottom experience a decrease in purchasing power due to inflation, then yes, things, on paper at least, will seem to be improving, but those who needed the improvements most will be worse off. this is where we are now.

Liars can figure and figures can lie.

Posted by danni

Couldn't I apply this line to your's and Danforth's arguments for the coming Greater Depression?

1. you should take a look at the changes made in determining the unemployment rate and what counts as fully employed,

Is there anywhere that FAIRLY accounts for every American's employment status (those of working age that is)?

Obama is not and never will be a centrist. Just like all liberal democrats they must run as something other than what they are in order to get elected

Posted by Maverick at 2008-06-30 02:08 PM

Obama is a secret hypocrite and a secret centrist!

Is there anywhere that FAIRLY accounts for every American's employment status (those of working age that is)?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

I don't know... what is it that you're implying?

"Obama is not and never will be a centrist. Just like all liberal democrats they must run as something other than what they are in order to get elected

Posted by Maverick at 2008-06-30 02:08 PM"

You sure you're not talking about that "compassionate conservative" who was not going to nation build? Your partisan glasses seem a bit fogged up, Mavis.

I don't know... what is it that you're implying?

Posted by Hagbard_Celine

It would seem that the Admin has an interest in keeping the numbers of unemployed low, and that their opposition would have an interest in making it as high as possible... I'd just be curious to see an accurate & fair accounting for the employment status of working age non-student Americans.

Is O'Bama a wimpy centrist? Of course. I've been saying that since he came in. REAL liberals don't get elected in our land, but even among senators, Barney is not in the top ten, no matter what rigid righties say.

Are we in a full scale depression? Sure! Wobbie and others with a meal ticket, an Ace In The Hole, cannot say otherwise. Today's market is well under where Clinton left it - seven and a half years wiped out - and it will get worse. Unemployment will grow as we outsource more jobs and fuel costs go even higher. Inflation like you never imagined will rage once they call in the chits from Bush's unfunded war.

Danni is right (as usual) that President O'Bama will have to undertake no less than a New Deal to reverse the damage. The Wobs and loonies with initials simply are not tuning in. herm

" Danforth's arguments for the coming Greater Depression?"

Ever seen a friend drown in credit card debt? How does it happen? the minimum payments---say, just the interest--- get larger and larger, and take up a greater and greater percentage of the monthly budget until it becomes impossible to both pay the minimums and live the same. Well, no one escapes the economic laws of gravity. Usually a contraction of lifestyle must occur, as current AND prior bills must be paid with only current income. Governing bodies, however, have an advantage: they can print currency and inflate their way through. In this case, that's the route they've chosen. Why did they stop publishing how much money they were printing, and what does that say to you?

I love the Cons.

In the era when Dems ran up deficits, deficits were EVIL. Go to the library and read some old Wall St Journals. When Reagan and Bush started to run up more deficits than the Dems ever dreamed of, deficits suddenly became OK, no big problem, so what we're the world's biggest debtor nation.

I love the smell of hypocrisy.

"when Dems ran up deficits"

When was that?

Background: My family has been in politics since before the Civil War.

The federal government engaged in some deficit spending--usually by Dems--from the 1930's to the Carter Era. The Republicans bitched constantly. Then when St. Ronald took the helm, the deficits really took off. Clinton got the matter in control. But the deficits exploded under Bush II. He was the only president to go in to a war and CUT taxes. How smart was that? It contradicted 75 years of Republican preaching. In addition, other spending blossomed; Republicans let earmarks explode; the Dems have not been much better.
Right now, we are the No.1 debtor nation in the world, out of 150 developed nations, massively indebited to Japan and Communist China. It's a matter of public record. No amount of pi**ing about "Libs" can erase that stain. That's why the $ is down, among other reasons.

RaH,

Am I hallucinating or did you say you're seriously considering voting for Obama?

Its just as important to get rid of Pelosi as Bush. Bush could not do the horrible things he's doing without a wink from that worthless do nothing. She and Feinstein are two of the richest bitches in Congress. Probably only surpassed by Rockefeller.

Its not really that Obama will deliver change. Its the only way to send a meaningful message is to throw the incumbent bums out, Democrat and Republican alike. They have failed and they need to be held accountable for once.

Am I hallucinating or did you say you're seriously considering voting for Obama?

Right now I'm a McCain supporter, but not a strong one... an Obama presidency would have certain benefits to it that a McCain presidency wouldn't... breaking the mold of Old White Rich guys only for the presidency would be a good thing... plus the next time a Black guy is whining about how "the man" is keeping him down, all one has to say is, "Hello, Black president." Obama would also improve the opinion the world holds of us, not that I care too much about that, but in some ways its important...

Policy wise I disagree with him on a lot and for the moment I don't see myself voting for him, I am a McCain supporter. But McCain is really old, and Obama is not as leftist as he's made out to be... if McCain continues to show almost what I would call a lack of enthusiasm, yeah... I could vote Obama... also could be cool to say I was on the side of such a historical moment in US History.

I'm not sure which more deserves a reply, Wob's feigned agony in deciding where to cast his fall ballot, or the assertion, much earlier, that we (the USA) are a superpower.

We're not. We have nothing left for anyone to invade for. We have worthless money and a steady erosion of the living standards that were gained by organized labor. We are environmentally screwed, and I see little hope of even O'Bama remedying that. Everything we own is in hock. We can't even get medical help.

Worst of all, if there really were a nation that would WANT to invade the USA, we have no one left to defend it. The Bush war, longer than WW2, has sapped our volunteer army to the point where no will to fight remains. Live with it. herm

Tough to take Herm's points seriously, when he's the douche that said Bush has killed more then Hitler or Stalin... sometimes you have to consider the source... time for bed grandpa.

Tough to take Herm's points seriously, when he's the douche that said Bush has killed more then Hitler or Stalin... sometimes you have to consider the source... time for bed grandpa.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Or know when to check out like Mein Furher.....

Reagan's supposed debt was fixed during the 90s before I ever had a job... this debt will get fixed too... Everything will be fine, it will all work out... then some other president will come along and the debt will go up again, then another president will come along and it will go down...

I'm sorry I just don't buy into this, "mortaging our children's futures" nonsense... its just another fear tactic, like what GOPers use with Terrorism.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

To the non economist in the room.. the debt will be paid for at fraction of the spent value due to the devalued currency. Not every day you get buy something at .25 on the dollar.

Watch the crowd go after this statement as an implicit approval of the some of the shitiest policy in 100 years.

Under Right Wing Leadership, my economic situation has only improved over the past 7 years"

Baloney. You think it has....
posted by danni

and here you have the everyliberal response.
rob tells us that he is in an improved situation and danni comes right back with telling him not only what to do but that he is wrong by thinking that he is better off. since the economy will be THE ISSUE in this campaign and NOT the war on terror in iraq......the left cannot afford for ANY one to think they are better off.

The A-hole and the Wis-hole come up with some rhetorical doozies, don't they. It's like I keep saying, the ultra rights are empty, drained, devoid of any semblance of fact. So they assail the messenger. Wob hasn't made a different point in over a year. herm

the ultra rights are empty, drained, devoid of any semblance of fact.

yesterday morning at around 10 or so, I gave you about FIVE FACTS about the messiah named obama and they all point to the same conclusion. the golden boy isnt qualified to be president mainly because of being a very poor judge of chraracter about who his buds and advisors are.
HELL he didnt even serve in the military and as I have been told on many occasions, that since I didnt serve I cant even write out an opinion on war and the left is voting for this guy to be Commander in chief!!!!!!!!!
the blindness and hypocracy from the left with barrywayne hussein may be even higher than when john kerry ran......he WAS in nam you know........

Anyone will beat a man with a million dollar training during Vietnam who was MIA and most likely drunk in Alabama instead of volunteering his expensive 'service' to our country.

His results as CiC are tragically evident.

I'm pissed the the whole Rev. Wright thing broke early... now come October/November, for many people that will be old news.

Hopefully there will be some other fun left for an October surpise... he'll have to get a lot more specific and do a lot more talking very soon... we'll see what happens then.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-06-30 11:19 AM | Reply | Flag

Weren't you claiming a few weeks ago that you were considering voting for Obama?

BLT You hired Dubya not once but TWICE and You claim to be qualified to say who is qualified to be President of the United States?? You aren't qualified to hire someone to pick the shit with the chickens nor clean out a haybarn much less than hiring of another President. I could excuse 2000 but NOT 2004. There's no excuse for that.

Larry Mohr

You aren't qualified to hire someone to pick the shit with the chickens nor clean out a haybarn much less than hiring of another President.

boring boring boring larry. you guys complain that the message from folks like rob never change and you continue to drag this dead horse through town day after day.

How stupid can you get??? You complain that GWB got elected twice......you have to run someone else for the job and put someone else on the ticket that isn't also a fucking moron.

As I've said before, you're deliberately lying to yourself if you say you can't see the benefits of an Obama Presidency. I disagree with a lot of his politics, but he's a good charismatic candidate, who will do some good.

I won't lie and say I'm not a McCain supporter at the moment, but I'm open to Obama, I'll watch the debates and make a choice after them... which is nice given that in 2000, and 2004 there was no choice.

Either way, whoever is elected will have my support, until they do something to lose it.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-06-18 11:44 AM | Reply

Rob- Corky wouldn't even say he'd vote for Obama over McCain.

Holy shit, someone who hasn't made up their mind in June of an election year?!?!?! Get a rope and hang that fucker...

Alex, even I'm considering voting for Obama... Not being locked into your vote so early is a good thing...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-06-11 01:39 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Larry- yeah, I thought rob was bullshitting us.

I won't lie and say I'm not a McCain supporter at the moment, but I'm open to Obama, I'll watch the debates and make a choice after them... which is nice given that in 2000, and 2004 there was no choice.

Alex, even I'm considering voting for Obama... Not being locked into your vote so early is a good thing...

But today?

I'm pissed the the whole Rev. Wright thing broke early... now come October/November, for many people that will be old news.

Hopefully there will be some other fun left for an October surpise... he'll have to get a lot more specific and do a lot more talking very soon... we'll see what happens then.

Oh, well. It's not like rob has any credibility to lose.

Yeah funny dat be huh Alexandrite. Amazing.

Larry

"Rob- Corky wouldn't even say he'd vote for Obama over McCain."

Larry - I think he has said he's going to vote for Obama. He just still enjoys rousing the old rabble.

I Hope that You're correct SanAntonioRogue. I really do.

Larry

Weren't you claiming a few weeks ago that you were considering voting for Obama?

Posted by Alexandrite

Sure I'm open to it... currently thought I'm a McCain supporter... plus I love a good October surprise...

Hell the Bush drunk driving arrest was really entertaining...

I'll probably make my decision in the voting booth. I'll go in with a good idea of who I'm voting for, but I'll probably sit in there for a minute or two thinking of voting for the other guy...

Ok why are voting booths so Damn cramped?? I mean it's like being in a cigar box standing up. What gives??

Larry

"Sure I'm open to it... currently thought I'm a McCain supporter... plus I love a good October surprise..."

Looks like the October Surprise will be that the dollar becomes totally worthless and Yay!!! McBush wants to continue the exact same economic policies as Bush. No wonder Rob would want to vote for him, Rob doesn't have a clue.

Looks like the October Surprise will be that the dollar becomes totally worthless and Yay!!!

Yawn... what else does your magic 8 ball say.

"Rob- Corky wouldn't even say he'd vote for Obama over McCain."

"Larry - I think he has said he's going to vote for Obama. He just still enjoys rousing the old rabble."

She did. (Corky is a she, right? What's with these fucking androgenous posters around here?) Anyway, s/he did, right after posting something about what a bad boy Obama is, and right before posting something about how evil Obama is.

Mount-a-Corpse prefers not to see who is f-ing him.... though in his case that is likely an advantage.

After the "no nation building" Bush it seems absolutely ridiculous for BLT to be.....

Posted by danni at 2008-06-30 10:37 AM | Rep

Geez Danni, another irelevant Bush deflection? Was that is last week's DNC talking points?

How is BLT responsible for Bush's flip-flop? The two are completely unrelated -- except in your mind, which automatically MUST relate everything back to Bush.

He dominates your mind, doesn't he? All you can think about is Bush. ;-P

"The times will dictate much of Obama's presidency"

Earth to Danni: the times always dictate the course of the presidency. Did you just figure that out?

Obama is the Centri-Christ?

Yawn... what else does your magic 8 ball say.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-07-01 10:46 AM

It says your Pooper Scooper is full.