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I've never engaged in any activities beyond what I post here. I let my opinions speak for themselves, as everyone is entitled to do.

is it me or does most of what nanc posts make no sense whatsoever?

jomama - do you approve of the tactics i've outlined above?

thank you for weighing in.

truthhurts - you must first remove your head from the dark place before you'll EVER understand me!

my question to you:

should i be disqualified from posting here because somebody thinks i'm a "fool"?

would cadenhead please weigh in - am i and other conservative bloggers welcome at the retort?

Everyone is welcome at the Retort, aside from the occasional flamer who tries to get around the rules. Liberals have a home-field advantage here, but conservative, libertarians and to-hell-with-all-politicia-
tarians will get a fair shake.

Nanc, you know well enough by now that this site functions like a hammer party where everyone tries to bash one another's blogging heads in.

It's just that this site is a liberal blog by definition and it often seems that posters from the right come here more to annoy the liberals than to truly engage in meaningful dialogue.

That said, I definitely don't condone you or anyone else who posts here being cyberstalked.

But, you have posted your email so you have to understand that some jerks are going to do other than just write you.

And lastly, how are you so sure that your association here is the reason for your male enhancement emails?

Me? I wouldn't do that. Like I said, what's said here is responded to here. The comment you posted doesn't really strike me as an attempt to humiliate, however. For what it's worth.

I am not looking in the right place or is there no nooner today? I guess it got lost on the move to the new server.

Sounds to me as if Nanc is confusing normal spam with DR posters. She over rates her importance.

h.c. - it was an e-mail addie i had for several months with only comments from a blog going there - within a day of posting it here i've had an onslaught of those type of spams. coincidence?

thank you, rcade - i figured you appreciate the variety but didn't want to second guess you.

ray - it's not me who overrates my importance, but those who see fit to try and get rid of me from this forum - what are THEY afraid of?

I just want to walk up to truthhurts and box his ears and then spit tabasco sauce in his eyes. Then I want to shit on his driveway.

Sounds to me as if Nanc is confusing normal spam with DR posters. She over rates her importance.

Posted by Ray

Nah, the Manufacturer just realizes she has a small penis-and is trying to help her get it to be a little bit bigger.

Nanc-to the best of my knowledge-no one wants rid of you..you're so obvious a hack, it's actually entertaining to watch you squirm trying to throw something, ANYTHING, at Dems, just hoping something will stick.

Whassamatta chair-truthhurt?

nanc

I've accumulated my share morons who I piss off. There's an asshole who's been following me around for years trying to chase me off this site. I even have a website that trashes the Bible. Then there are military retards like 101. I see it as practice in dealing with difficult people.

Hey Nanc,

I think your posts usually represent the Sean Hannity version of republican thought and are basically symptomatic of the inane perspective of the shrinking, fear driven religious right.

That having been said, I fully disapprove of the harassment you've experienced.

Don't go, just learn.

ray and tigerbalm - i'm not easily scared off, i just wanted to know who runs the show here, rcade or those who sniff in his flanks (no offense meant to rcade).

I would say that anyone who is that concerned with Nanc posting here is truly a person without a life. I hope they don't consider themselves a liberal while trying to restrict someones right to Free Speech.

However, I would expect weirdos wherever I go and would not leave any contact info around for them to utilize.

I come for the plentiful trolling opportunities. If it weren't for the intellectual stylings of knuckle draggers like Kuma, Wing Ding Don, Johnson (Capt. Viagra), the mighty Ozwaldo, Dean Vulva (sorry, I couldn't resist), Vermin and his magic calculator, etc., this place would be a boring ghost town of liberals and libertarians trying to out-nuance one another.

Yin needs the yang or the circle is not complete.

Well, there WAS the Mullet Festival.

mulletfestival.com

I would say that anyone who is that concerned with Nanc posting here is truly a person without a life.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob

BB is concerned for those concerned for Nanc. I love the irony of that statement.

Will the DR coward who harassed nanc be ostracized and/or shunned? I doubt it. More likely he'll get the same private high-fives from his liberal amigos that the typical Muslim extremist terrorist gets when he goes to mosque where he and his buddies engage in "truly" meaningful dialogue.

Meanwhile, he'll continue to attempt to force other conservative posters like nanc or myself into "comment moderation mode" at their own blogs, where they expects to share a "meaningful dialogue" with their like-minded friends.

After all, Hillary Clinton loved Saul Alinsky, Barrack Obama was another NOTORIOUS Saul Alinsky fan and the so-called "Netroots community" is filled with Alinskyites committed to "truly" liberal thought as embodied by the Alinsky Rules for Radicals.

Gee, come to think of it, adherence to those "rules" sure does explain a lot of the comments on this thread like...

this site is a liberal blog by definition and it often seems that posters from the right come here more to annoy the liberals than to truly engage in meaningful dialogue.

and...

how are you so sure that your association here is the reason for your male enhancement emails?

and...

Nah, the Manufacturer just realizes she has a small penis-and is trying to help her get it to be a little bit bigger.

and...

She over rates her importance.

Little minds following their little "guidebook" and trying to silence dissent. Pathetic.

I know dissent when I see it. "...private high-fives from his liberal amigos that the typical Muslim extremist terrorist gets..." ain't dissent. It's inarticulate talking-point jibber jabber. Troll harder.

Farmer John,

Will the DR coward who harassed nanc be ostracized and/or shunned? I doubt it. More likely he'll get the same private high-fives from his liberal amigos that the typical Muslim extremist terrorist gets when he goes to mosque where he and his buddies engage in "truly" meaningful dialogue.

No, we've moved on to the fist bump. Pay attention.

I would like to say that the only people who are not welcome here are those who do not tolerate dissenting opinions. But if that was the case, the place would almost be a ghost town. There are many members of the tolerant, all inclusive party who will tolerate and include you only if you agree with them. What an irony.

This forum is here to have fun with. Nothing more, nothing less, in my opinion. And although I thoroughly enjoy reading and occasionally posting, ascribing some great significance to what we do here is silly.

There goes TB. "Battlestations...shut down that hint of truth and dissent immediately!"

You're a real Alinsky-lover, Tiger. Can't have a conversation w/you in the room.

There are many members of the tolerant, all inclusive party who will tolerate and include you only if you agree with them. What an irony.

Posted by goatman at 2008-06-29 02:47 PM |


The dems never claimed to be all inclusive--it is the republicans who claim the broad umbrella. The rainbow coalition was one candidate--not the dem party. I would say that liberals are tolerant of anything except intolerance. No room in liberal thinking for intolerant people---like the people who are harrassing Nanc---or Nanc. Ya gotta be tolerant to be a liberal. Ya gotta hate intolerance if you are a liberal. Just like ya gotta hate Satan if you are a christian--ya gotta hate intolerance if you are a liberal.

However, I would expect weirdos wherever I go...

LOL

if one is so naive to think they can post their personal emails on a site like this or giving it out to people they arent sure of, then perhaps they should reconsider things a tad, reconsider their net anonimity(sp?)_

what did you say Nanc? if someone does something stupid then they deserve what happens to them? seems like posting personal stuff has resulted in you being harrassed.

sorry if I dont have sympathy for you.


and you werent even raped and murdered.

and 101 try shitting on my driveway I triple dog dare you. of course you will find my shoe cloggin your shithole but please do try


truthhurts - you must first remove your head from the dark place before you'll EVER understand me!


my question to you:


should i be disqualified from posting here because somebody thinks i'm a "fool"?

Posted by nanc


just because YOU cant see the light does not make my part of the universe dark

no I dont think you should be disqualified cause you are either a fool or perceived a fool.

and that is your interpretation of what they wrote

btw I guess we can add whiny to nanc's negative attributes

why are righties so darn whiny?

"And although I thoroughly enjoy reading and occasionally posting, ascribing some great significance to what we do here is silly."

Oh, lordy...please don't let DeadPud see this or he'll commit Hari Kari. I can only imagine the harm he'll do to himself if he finds he is insignificant after all.

Farmer chimes in comparing democrats to terrorists and thinks it's a conversation.

And what's with all the Alinsky references kiddo, up last night watching the history channel?

Sorry I made you feel "shut down". The right is so sensitive these days.

"why are righties so darn whiny?"

Do you think they are THIS whiny? Someone told me you posed for it.

www.thestricklers.com

That is funny. But not these days Jest. Much happier now. I think the number 180 has something to do with it. Or the word pendulum.

"That is funny. But not these days Jest. Much happier now."

I'm really glad you're happy, Tiger, but I think ol' TruthHurter is perpetually UNhappy. I think he'd bitch if he had his nuts in a solid gold vice.

it is definitely NOT whining to come to rcade and find out why one of his posters is trying to dictate on my blog the rules for those of us who post here.

please point out where and how i was "whiny", truthhurts. i'm pretty straightforward when i want to know something and "whiner" would never be used to describe me by another person i know.

i'm not calling for ANYBODY to be banned here - not my call. although i've run into posters here who would be banned at other sites, i've never given anyone anything other than a f.f., nor have i ever written an e-mail to rcade "whining" about another commenter and if need be, he can attest to that.

you are whiny cause some asswipe is bugging you and you have to start a thread here about how somebody is supposedly persecuting you, making you not welcome here. well first nothing of that is even written in the post, basically he calls you a troll. so what some douche insults you and you come whining to the DR starting some thread abouit who is welcome and who isnt/

whaaaaaaa

and remember YOU brought in on yourself posting your private emails. again why should we have sympathy for you, you are getting what you deserve for doing something stupid, isnt that YOUR attitude?


"That is funny. But not these days Jest. Much happier now."


I'm really glad you're happy, Tiger, but I think ol' TruthHurter is perpetually UNhappy. I think he'd bitch if he had his nuts in a solid gold vice.

Posted by jestgettinalong


what are you talking about? your post makes no sense. no man would be happy if his nuts were in a vice solid gold or not.

I would say that liberals are tolerant of anything except intolerance

You would say wrong, then.

Just last week one poster say I belonged in a federal prison because of the way he thought I invested my money. The week before someone wished that I would lose my job because they don't like the oil industry.

Doesn't sound very tolerant to me.

Farmer chimes in comparing democrats to terrorists and thinks it's a conversation...

If the shoe fits, then you've got to wear it. If it doesn't fit, you must acquit. In your case, I'll admit the shoe's a little tight, but I'll still let you marry prince Obama Osama, Cinderella.

And what's with all the Alinsky references kiddo, up last night watching the history channel?

Just wanted to let everyone know the "source" and "nature" of the populist dogma that today passes for PINNACLE of "liberal" thought and is embraced by the current Democratic politic leadership (Hill & Barrack as implemented by their netroots cronies).

It kinda explains the attacks against the "Ken Starrs" of the world. Liberalism seems to have "progressed" beyond previously understood moral limits and into the realm of the "illiberal" power grab.


Well, nanc, if you really want to be despised around here, you should be a liberal who fails to go along with the Politically Correct choice of Presidential candidate.

Nothing worse than a turncoat, you know.

Just try harder is my advise.

Ummmmmm TruthHurts just because Nanc chooses to post Her email address does not give anyone license to abuse it. Many folks have their personal phone numbers in a book called a Phone Book. Does that give Me license to call them up and ask if their refrigerators is running or if they have any Prince Albert in a can or call Your Middle School principal up at 3 AM just to terrorize Him so He doesn't show up the next day to give You that detention that He was promising. No it sure doesn't.

Larry Mohr

...and "why" people would follow nanc to her blog home and attempt to harass her into the internet equivalent of "silence" - aka "comment moderation".

Farmer Johnny Cochran,

Actually I'm already married. On that note, my wife and I are expecting our fourth child any day now could be today. Some contractions during the night. I'll keep ya posted.

larry I dont condone nor support harrassing anyone. i am just finding nanc hypocritical and whiny coming here and whining about being harrassed by some asswipe for doing something like posting her personal informatio. I wouldnt recommend that to anyone.

she is on record for not having sympathy for people who do something dumb and saying that someone who does something dumb gets what they deserve.

she did something stupid and gets harrassed, her whining about it is hypocritical and whiny

and btw she will NEVER see the similarity nor hypcrisy in her actions.


i don't feel sorry for people choose to be stupid, truthhurts - if it's self inflicted, whatever comes is deserved. i cannot stop or help it.

take a hike why don't you? got a wedding dress handy?

Posted by nanc at 2008-04-14 11:52 AM



now if that stupid thing is posting personal information in a public place.......

larry I dont condone nor support harrassing anyone but...she is on record for not having sympathy for people who do something dumb...

So it was dumb of nanc to list her e-mail address when she registered at the Drudge Retort.... and so she deserves to be harassed by any ass-wipe at the Drudge Retort who chooses to be a vindictive little prick. How dumb she is. She sure deserves to be harassed....

btw - Maybe I should start looking for some clues to you identity and give you a little spam lesson or fifty.... you'd certainly deserve it" for being so stupid as giving me the means...

i'm sure this lady knew exactly what she could be in store for - you don't travel around the middle east in a wedding dress searching for peace - it's moonbattery at its acme.

Posted by nanc


i'm sure this lady knew exactly what she could be in store for - you don't post your personal information to a public site (a liberal site at that and you are a conservative)- it's moonbattery at its acme.

Actually I'm already married...

try and actually keep track of who you're commenting to tb and what they've posted... really, it's embarrassing...

farmer john, you are ignorant, I am NOT the one saying she deserves it, that was HER attitude. when it comes around to bite her listen to her whine.

and good luck getting personal info out of me.


would you skydive without a parachute?

drive a car blindfolded?

yeah, peace.

Posted by nanc at 2008-04-14 12:34 PM


oor posting personal info to a public blog

Cuz as I'm sure you're already aware. I don't give a flying f*ck.

your the one who threatened me, rmember?

but I'll still let you marry prince Obama Osama, Cinderella.

POSTED BY FARMER_JOHN

Farmer are you drunk or senile.

Whatever the case, you sure are easily embarrassed. I guess it's part and parcel of the right's newfound sensitivity and PCness.

Oh, nanc's a "whiner" because someone from the Drudge Retort abuses her personal e-mail and then forces her personal blog into "comment moderation"... and then she HAS THE GALL TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT at the SOURCE OF THE ABUSE.

How "whiney" of her.

Sounds to me more like you CONDONE the kind of behavior that she's complaining about.

You say things like "I don't condone it ...but... she deserves it."

Like the Iraq war. I support the troops but the troops have got to come home now. Hypocrite, thy name is DEMOCRAT.

nanc,

WTF is your problem?

You gave to much info are outspoken and you think this is a great big club where we fight all day and drink together at night.

Not so.

Fuck the turds who don't like you and learn to spit a little harder.


Most of the DRleft are retards anyway not really worthy of anything more then a glance and a gob.

Stay off the self pity.

These people are shit and if i knew any of them i wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

Just saying.


rwd

your the one who threatened me, rmember?

You found it "threatening" what someone at Drudge Retort has done to nanc?

Amazing! A "progressive" liberal who finally "gets it!"

farmer john what part of the fact that she made the following statement do you not understand?

"i don't feel sorry for people choose to be stupid, truthhurts - if it's self inflicted, whatever comes is deserved. i cannot stop or help it."

when it is some liberal peace activist getting raped and murdered all fine and dandy

when it happens to her posting public information where she KNOWS whackos hang out and she gets harrassed suddenly shee feels like the poor pathetic victim

that is sickening.

you appear to thick to understand. I dont support or think she should be harrassed. I have no sympathy for her cause she is a whiny hypocrit.

can y ou understand now?

So what your saying, truthhurts, is that if the victim were a liberal activist, then you'd be sympathetic, but since it's nanc, then you're not.

Right?

You're only sympathetic to other people who are sympathetic.

...and nanc's the hypocrite?

...am I missing something?

Why don't you just hit nanc with your purse and get it over with douchsquirts?

Why are so many of you male libs such fucking sissies? Seriously, either you are lying about being a man or you need testosterone shots.

nanc- you aint the first one to get self destruct emails threatening you.
Send it to the proper internet authorities. Better yet, hit the 'spam' button on the emails.
Don't give out your real address ever again. Maybe get a new one?

Most importantly...get over yourself. The majority of posters here could give a shit whether you stay or go.

I see Alexandrite weighs in to blame and shame the victim.

Interesting just how illiberal most liberals truly are...

Blame the victim?

I've been a "victim" of this type of crap too. But use some perspective, farmer john.

My email was public on this site, so i have some culpability in it falling into the hands of a few lifeless losers. Period. For that reason it is no longer public.

Does that make the harrassment right? Not at all. But I'm willing to bet the email harrasment is a statistical minority here. If it wasn't, we'd hear a lot more bitching on these threads about it.

So that's the genisis of my "get over yourself" comment. There is no conspiracy to boot certain posters off the site. What there is: A few people with too much time on their hands that get off sending threatening emails and rattling the chains of people. They do they because of the anonymous nature of the net. And because people like nanc will dance for them.

There's a few simple steps she can follow to protect herself. One of them is not creating threads to glorify the abusive behavior her cyber stalkers are getting their jollies from. This just feeds their sick obsession and will increase the attacks.

This...
"...comparing democrats to terrorists and thinks it's a conversation..."

Prompted this...
"If the shoe fits, then you've got to wear it. If it doesn't fit, you must acquit. In your case, I'll admit the shoe's a little tight, but I'll still let you marry prince Obama Osama, Cinderella"--

That whoshing sound was Farmer Man's credibility flying out the window.

Don't you just adore watching duplicitously-framed rhetoric artlessly being transmuted into reality? Classic Roveian think-speak. Pathetic nay-saying of simplistic answers to complex questions is all the conversational acumen acolytes like Farmer Man can handle. He came here looking to foist his skewed set of rules for what constitutes having a discussion. He'll leave with something completely different.

People who get victimized by internet stalkers need to simply "toughen up", "get thicker skinned" and not condemn the coarseness of political discourse.

And the rest of us should all denigrate and degrade and chastise the victims of internet abuses for stupidly "trusting" their internet colleagues to behave as responsible adults.

Interesting what passes for 'civilized' behavior these days.

i've not once complained about the treatment i've gotten here - quite the contrary. i know what i'm in for when i walk into a roomful of vipers.

my point and what i want to know is should a poster from here come to my or any other person's blog and bully them from posting here?

truthhurts - YOU are the one who searches ME out, not the other way around. you're a bully and so are the people who are trying to dissuade me from posting here.

only a freakin' leftard. what you fail to comprehend is i would NEVER do such a thing.

". More likely he'll get the same private high-fives from his liberal amigos "

Farmer John,
It was Jackass/Messiah who went to Nanc's blog, posing as "danforth" from "the retort" and scummed it up. A rightie, getting high-fives from his conservative amigos.

So you were only 100% off.

People who get victimized by internet stalkers need to simply "toughen up", "get thicker skinned" and not condemn the coarseness of political discourse

You completely misread my post to nanc, farmer john.

She has to take responsibility for posting her address here, AND not egg the behavior on by making threads crying about it. Sorry, it's just the reality of the situation.

There is NO ONE not welcome here unless rogers says so.
The people doing this should be kicked off, but that's up to rogers. Good luck proving which IP address belongs to which poster...hence why these assholes still blog here. And for the record, they are lefties and righties...not one or the other.

So being realistic about this, she should change her email address, She should report the emails or mark them as spam.

Whining about it on a anonymous forum isn't going to accomplish anything but a pity party and a reason for the destructo emailing scum to do it even more. Not interested in pity if the person involved doesn't take adult steps to shield themselves from 14 year olds on the internet.

That whoshing sound was Farmer Man's credibility flying out the window.

I had credibility at the DR before now? WOW. Whodathunkit!

He came here looking to foist his skewed set of rules for what constitutes having a discussion. He'll leave with something completely different.

You are truly a mind reader... That's precisely what I was trying to do. A call for civility and common sense. Obviously that's far too much to expect from the modern Alinskyite, eh "dutch"?

my point and what i want to know is should a poster from here come to my or any other person's blog and bully them from posting here?

Shouldn't ethicially. But it's not illegal if they didn't threaten you with physical violence.

Don't get me wrong, nanc. What was done to you was awful, but you need to protect yourself...not encourage these little kids(be it chronologically, or mentally) to keep fucking with you.

Contact your provider. Erase the offending comments on your blog. Making a thread her about it is exactly the wrong move.

there's a new one, danforth - the other guy gave it up.

alexandrite - oh, if only i'd been a lefty on a conservative blog coming forth with this...just depends on who's doing what, eh? and i don't want a pity party - i wanted rcade to tell me if i am welcome here or not.

surely you don't believe you or any other commenter sets the stage for who does or doesn't come here?

Danforth- I thought jackass/messiah was more lefty but tolerated on PWZ cuz he was buds with rex.

Rex/dawgpound does this type of crap too.

Beachbuzz doesn't. He's cool.

I really don't understand why rcade let's those two PWZ people post here anymore.(jackass and rex) All they do is cause trouble, and send threats to people. These two dickbags have NO LIFE whatsoever. They're internet sadists.

He came here looking to foist his skewed set of rules for what constitutes having a discussion. He'll leave with something completely different.

If that is true then I condemn his irresponsible actions and behavior. It's dispicable.

But the point of this argument is, that we condemn irresponsible behavior "regardless" of the perpetrators political leaning. Very few on the left were sympathetic to nanc's plight simply because they don't like her. I don't like a lot of you, either, but I'm not going to condone people hacking or stalking you. This kind of "netroots inspired" politics has got to end.

surely you don't believe you or any other commenter sets the stage for who does or doesn't come here?

Posted by nanc at 2008-06-29 05:12 PM | Reply | Flag:


of course not. Which is why you asking rcade if you're welcome here is just stupid. Do you think HE followed you to your blog?

Believe me, if it WERE up to me who was allowed to post here...the person that is harrassing you would hjave been gone LOOOONG before you ever posted here.

That asshole has a history of doing far worse to people, nanc. Ask Larry.

erratum to "quote"...

It was Jackass/Messiah who went to Nanc's blog, posing as "danforth" from "the retort" and scummed it up. A rightie, getting high-fives from his conservative amigos.

If that is true then I condemn his irresponsible actions and behavior. It's dispicable.

But the point of this argument is, that we condemn irresponsible behavior "regardless" of the perpetrators political leaning. Very few on the left were sympathetic to nanc's plight simply because they don't like her. I don't like a lot of you, either, but I'm not going to condone people hacking or stalking you. This kind of "netroots inspired" politics has got to end.

but I'm not going to condone people hacking or stalking you.

Who condoned that behavior, farmer john? Point it out to me, cuz I'm not seeing anyone on this thread that did that.

Maybe I missed a comment. Help me out.

Sighhhhhhh

Making a thread here about it is exactly the wrong move.

No it's exactly the RIGHT move. There's an internet stalker here at DR... and everyone needs to know about it and be advised to take "preventative" measures. It isn't "whining". It's about alerting other posters to the danger of expressing your opinions... and of the need to take precautions to protect your identity.

Perhaps the Retort ought to STOP listing e-mail addresses as "policy". Period.

Perhaps the Retort ought to STOP listing e-mail addresses as "policy". Period.

Yet somehow you knew enough to make yours private.

Farmer john.

90% of the people here know who nancs stalker probably is. And he's jerking off to her thread right now.

Runnin to rcade in this fashion is like asking the school principle if he likes you...as one of the students at school picked on you.

She should have emailed him in private and asked for suggestions to protect herself. Making a huge overly dramtic thread about it is exactly what people like jackass/messiah WANT.

What they don't want is to be banned from this site. Nanc is no step closer to that goal when she points fingers at danfroth or truthhurts, because jackass simply used their names to cause a huge fight here, I'm guessing.

And jackass is getting what he wants, isn't he?

There are smart ways to end internet stalking. This is not it.

Who condoned that behavior, farmer john? Point it out to me, cuz I'm not seeing anyone on this thread that did that.

Condone : to regard or treat (something bad or blameworthy) as acceptable, forgivable, or harmless

When you state that you don't "condone" something, you don't usually follow it with a "...but you did something stupid" and a condemnation of the victim. That WAS the typical poster's reaction to nanc's post"

If you feel the need to "condemn", condemn the perpetrator and NOT the victim. Don't make "excuses" for the perp that border on... "you deserved it". That the leaves the "perp" with the impression that his "behavior" is being "condoned."

Why should the Policy be no more published email addesses?? Why should some fucking piss poor excuse for a Human Excretiment be the one who dictates no more email address postings??

Larry Mohr

There are smart ways to end internet stalking. This is not it.

No, we can't have anyone here alerted to the fact that there's a stalker amongst us...

So now everyone knows now Farmer...

So, what are you doing now that you have that valuable information?

Nothing? Me either. Anyone else plan on doing absolutely nothing different?

Why should the Policy be no more published email addesses?

If the "smart thing to do" is keep it "private" and not make a scene, then perhaps having the SysAdm "prevent" people from making the same "stupid mistake" that stalkers exploit is the responsible thing to do.

Otherwise, perhaps a public appeal for blogger's here to observe a little netiquette... and perhaps a more "supportive" user community which firmly CONDEMNS internet stalking is best response.

This ain't my blog. I'm just an a-hole with an opinion.

When you state that you don't "condone" something, you don't usually follow it with a "...but you did something stupid"

Sorry, but that's the reality.

I don't condone someone getting beaten. But if they scream "nigger" in harlem afterwards and get beaten up more, they have their share of fault in the situation.

Posting personal info on this blog is a bad idea. You knew enough to make your email private. Me? I was dumb enough to share it with one asshole, and he gave it to a bunch of other assholes. It's private, but a few know it. My fault. Doesn't make it right if they send me evil shit. I don't condone that...But I take responsibility for my mistakes in the process. That's how you learn not to screw up. ADMIT A MISTAKE, correct it, move on.

nanc isn't helping her cause by creating drama by pointing fingers at people that didn't do anything to her.

I NEVER said she "deserved it" either. Just that she wasn't helping herself after the fact.

I DID condemn the pile of piss that did this.

Reading comprehension. You either get that or you don't, I guess.


So now everyone knows now Farmer...


So, what are you doing now that you have that valuable information?


Nothing? Me either. Anyone else plan on doing absolutely nothing different?

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-06-29 05:37 PM | Reply | Flag:


Yeah, exactly.

So now everyone knows now Farmer...

So, what are you doing now that you have that valuable information?

Nothing? Me either. Anyone else plan on doing absolutely nothing different?

Exactly. But how many newbies registered to post here today? F' them, right chairborne. Let 'em ALL learn the "hard way". Let 'em all learn that if somebody abuses their trust, we'll all laugh at 'em and call 'em stupid.

Otherwise, perhaps a public appeal for blogger's here to observe a little netiquette

The Jackasses of the 'net don't give a shit, the rest of us would never do it.

No, we can't have anyone here alerted to the fact that there's a stalker amongst us...


Posted by Farmer_John at 2008-06-29 05:35 PM | Reply | Flag:


Jesus, you are dense. ANYONE you give your email address to are can see it is a potential stalker! The anonymous nature of the net makes it more likely than anywhere else.

Especially if you get in a lot of fights on the blog you post your address on!

Any newbie coming here should have common sense and not post their email in a public forum. And they should be very selective with whom(if anyone) they give that address out to.

Do you leave your phone number on bathroom stalls, farmer john? Of course you don't. hell, you have your email address set to private HERE.

Imagine that!

DID condemn the pile of piss that did this.


Reading comprehension. You either get that or you don't, I guess.

Posted by Alexandrite


I never did see piss pile up.

Run all over the place,but never pile up.

rwd

Dear Rcade:

I left my phone number on one of your threads.
After numerous prank calls, and several requests to not blog on drudge...I'm beginning to wonder if you want me here.

-Alex

The Jackasses of the 'net don't give a shit, the rest of us would never do it.

So we should all ignore the abuse and say "not my problem, not my yob"? If I datamine this site looking for personal tidbits, track you down and spam and abuse you and all your friends, you deserve what's coming to you. You were just "dumb" or maybe I was just a little too smart and able to get away with it.

Ever hear of the "Ring of Gayges"? Welcome to the ring.

"because jackass simply used their names to cause a huge fight here..."

Oh, there was no fight here at all. Jackass/Messiah signed on to Nanc's blog using the anonymous feature as "danforth", and scummed up the place, getting multiple dumps. He went so far as to have his sock puppet admit defeat! (How friggin' pwned does one have to be for that?

Within a few hours, I'd tracked his ip through the site meter (thanks for the lesson, Nanc!), discovered the source, and confronted Jackass/Messiah. Then he admitted it, send me some self-destruct emails, and begged me to leave him alone.

I bitch-slapped him for a while, and plan to continue until he posts an apology to the unsuspecting folks over at Nanc's blog.

But no fight. A lot of victory dancing, since I OWN Jackass/Messiah, but the only person he humiliated ultimately was himself.

Erratum - Gyges.

RWD never has pissed in North Dakota when it is 30 below out. It piles up like a frozen piss snow cone. Oh and it does Wonders for Your circuation there too.

Larry

Farmer john-

people have the option to set their email to private or public when they make an account, newbie or not.

Anyone that understands the english language knows what "public" means. Anyone can see it. Anyone can contact you. Like a number in the phone book...

Use some common sense people. Set your email to private if you're that afraid of the lunatics floating around the Earth.

So we should all ignore the abuse and say "not my problem, not my yob"?

There's a difference between whining about how unfair "the Net" is, asking "don't you want me here?" and demanding "netequette" from people. You aren't going to get anywhere with that. What works is being wise about what you do with information about yourself.

The only constructive feedback from this episode is that RCade should post a warning about publicizing your e-mail addy. It boggles my mind that anyone would publish a "real" e-mail addy anywhere on the net, but I keep seeing people do it. Go figure.

Danforth actually takes Jackass/Messiah's apology seriously?? Even I though You were smarter than that. AMAZING.

Larry

I'd tracked his ip through the site meter (thanks for the lesson, Nanc!),

I heard nanc talking about tracking someone else awhile ago using this method. What the hell are people "tracking other people for anyway? I realize in this case it was to catch some blog vandal, but nanc was trying to find out what time zone someone was posting from or something like that.

Just friggin' read and reply and step away. Too much drama.


RWD never has pissed in North Dakota when it is 30 below out. It piles up like a frozen piss snow cone. Oh and it does Wonders for Your circuation there too.


Larry

Posted by LarryMohr

I will take your word for it.

I've seen frozen breath fall like snow.

rwd

Exactly. But how many newbies registered to post here today? F' them, right chairborne. Let 'em ALL learn the "hard way". Let 'em all learn that if somebody abuses their trust, we'll all laugh at 'em and call 'em stupid.

Posted by Farmer_John at 2008-06-29 05:42 PM | Repl

I'd say about zero new people registered today. Face it, you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Nanc is as well.

This is much ado over nothing.

This reminds me when Cali Chris was having a hissy fit about certain posters showing up on his/her posts all the time.

I can still hear the whinning to this day.

And i thought that was impossible.

rwd

The only thing CalifChris pitched a bitch about was when people denigrated the Fallen Soldies memorial that She posted every Saturday/Sunday.

Larry Mohr

That is not my memory Larry,look further back.

rwd

Who condoned that behavior, farmer john? Point it out to me, cuz I'm not seeing anyone on this thread that did that.

Maybe I missed a comment. Help me out.

Sure 101Chairborne, just now...

This is much ado over nothing.

and just for a little balance...

by rwd...

This reminds me when Cali Chris was having a hissy fit about certain posters showing up on his/her posts all the time.

Great suggestion Yav... I agree

The only constructive feedback from this episode is that RCade should post a warning about publicizing your e-mail addy. It boggles my mind that anyone would publish a "real" e-mail addy anywhere on the net, but I keep seeing people do it. Go figure.

Kinda makes ya understand why Banks don't publish Account numbers w/customer names even though they have 'em.

Maybe they should just have a "box" for new account members to "check" to decide whether the numbers should be posted publically, next to their names....

Nah. That really WOULD be stupid.

Farmer John,
With all due respect, you are an idiot. This thread is nothing but drama and you're simply making something out of nothing.
Nanc isn't going to send you any nudes for sticking up for her. I already tried that.


Kinda makes ya understand why Banks don't publish Account numbers w/customer names even though they have 'em.


Maybe they should just have a "box" for new account members to "check" to decide whether the numbers should be posted publically, next to their names....


Nah. That really WOULD be stupid.

Posted by Farmer_John at 2008-06-29 06:18 PM | Reply | Flag:


You made a new account in January.

Where's your email address? Oh, right...you CHOSE not to make it public knowledge.

Nanc isn't going to send you any nudes for sticking up for her. I already tried that.

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-06-29 06:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Insults don't work either. Tried that.

Guess we're SOL, 101. : )

Maybe if I offered to do Her windows and wash Her dishes I might get lucky huh Alexandrite??

Larry

People who get victimized by internet stalkers need to simply "toughen up", "get thicker skinned" and not condemn the coarseness of political discourse.

That's easier said than done. On communities I've belonged to, some members have been harassed at their jobs and/or homes by people who don't have the sense to keep an online disagreement online.

Here, it's against the rules to drag a personal argument on the Retort into real life or take outside arguments here. I actively discourage that stuff when it's called to my attention -- flag comments as "abuse" or send me an email using the box on the front page.

The pretext fer this thread is enuff to make one want to puke.

The number of responses is enuff to make one actually do so.

(off to pay homage to the porcelain god.)

truthhurts - YOU are the one who searches ME out, not the other way around. you're a bully and so are the people who are trying to dissuade me from posting here.


only a freakin' leftard. what you fail to comprehend is i would NEVER do such a thing.


Posted by nanc


and of course you will not admit to the hypocrisy over this compared to the murdered peace activist

RightWhinyandDumb --

This reminds me when Cali Chris was having a hissy fit about certain posters
showing up on his/her posts all the time....

Looks like your cyberbutt is still sore from the verbal kicking I gave it last week.
Aww. Put up a "pity poor RWD" thread of your own if you think it will help
your bruised ego any.

Pretending to be the douchebag that pretends to be a 3rd person talking potato is enough to make a person puke.

It's not funny, cool, or impressive when he does it. In fact it's fucking strange. The fact that another grown man does the same is fucking embarrassing.

Punch yourself in the face and go to bed.

When you state that you don't "condone" something, you don't usually follow it with a "...but you did something stupid" and a condemnation of the victim. That WAS the typical poster's reaction to nanc's post"


If you feel the need to "condemn", condemn the perpetrator and NOT the victim. Don't make "excuses" for the perp that border on... "you deserved it". That the leaves the "perp" with the impression that his "behavior" is being "condoned."


Posted by Farmer_John


PLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEEE keep this in mind and reread NANC's comments bout the slain peace activist.

gee, mrs. cleaver - i got the answer from rcade and all'y'all're (4wdcontraction) still bitching and moaning more than i could have!

i didn't drag anybody into this argument, i merely posted their comment at my blog - the usual suspect has not shown up here. yet. but, has left a comment at my blog as follows:

"Saw your little pitty party thread that does not seem to be working out so well. Maybe you should try just going with the flow every once in awhile and just admit liberalism is the solution to this countries problems. I resent the fact anybody not in lockstep with you is called a troll. What if Rogers deemed you a troll because you had a different opinion?"

this ain't no piTy party - it's about people who have the audacity to try and bully someone into backing down or out because of a conflict of opinion. fyi - "countries" should be possessive - sure hope you have a good secretary at work, bubba. rogers can deem me anything he'd like - it's his blog, his rules and i abide by them.

truthhurts - has ANYBODY EVER told you that after a horse is dead, shooting it again doesn't make it deader? you are obsessed, man.

p.s. why wouldn't cadenhead want me here - look at what stirs the pot - 20 some odd headlines on the top front page and y'all're in a tizzie over this one~!

You made a new account in January. Where's your email address? Oh, right...you CHOSE not to make it public knowledge.
---
On communities I've belonged to, some members have been harassed at their jobs and/or homes by people who don't have the sense to keep an online disagreement online.

Indeed. I learned THAT the hard way. I got hacked in 2001 by a pissed-off Gore-lover. I used to post under my real name... and NO, it isn't "john".

If you're posting on a political blog, you're dealing with the scum of the earth... as this post will attest. There are a LOT of people who think that is something isn't "illegal" (and sometimes even if it IS) then others have no room to complain. BS.

RCADE, I haven't had any problems here yet. But I hope you'll see fit to review your voluntary e-mail option and take action against those who would abuse posting privledges. You're running a Sitemeter. You should be able to identify precisely who they are.

I just want to walk up to truthhurts and box his ears and then spit tabasco sauce in his eyes. Then I want to shit on his driveway.

Posted by 101Chairborne

Typical 'dissenting' opinion from one who most likely drives away more posters with his immature shtick than brings clicks fucking off at work all day and typing drivel.

I'm all about debating issues, but this ruins any of that around here. Imagine how many stopped by after the AP story, took one look at this kind of shit, and said, "no thanks". I'd bet hundreds.

What's worse is that people were begging to let this asshole back on here when he got banned.

CYA in another month.....maybe.

guys, guys, guys, lets all live by this wisdom going forward:


i don't feel sorry for people choose to be stupid, truthhurts - if it's self inflicted, whatever comes is deserved. i cannot stop or help it.


truthhurts - has ANYBODY EVER told you that after a horse is dead, shooting it again doesn't make it deader? you are obsessed, man.


p.s. why wouldn't cadenhead want me here - look at what stirs the pot - 20 some odd headlines on the top front page and y'all're in a tizzie over this one~!

Posted by nanc at



dead horse

you post a thread whining about noone wanting you here but remember

"i don't feel sorry for people choose to be stupid, truthhurts - if it's self inflicted, whatever comes is deserved. i cannot stop or help it."


answer me this what is the difference between you and the dead peace activist?

There are a LOT of people who think that is something isn't "illegal" (and sometimes even if it IS) then others have no room to complain. BS.


I can only assume this directed at me since I mentioned the legalities involved.

But you've once again missed my point.(reading comprehension...)

Nanc's method of complaint is not constructive. It is merely drama, which is what her stalker wants. You either understand this point or you don't.