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The British writer Ian McEwan has spoken up in defense of fellow novelist Martin Amis, who wrote a collection of essays last year sharply critical of Muslims for not doing enough to confront terrorism and described terrorists as "sexually frustrated misogynists entranced by a cult of death." "The impulse towards rational inquiry is by now very weak in the rank and file of the Muslim male," Amis wrote.

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Separating anti-Muslim bias from factual truth is often difficult. However, it does appear that Amis to some degree is correct. Overall the Islamic World has seemed to do relatively little to combat the terrorist impulses in their midst. In fact, more times than not, support for terrorism seems to come from within Muslim society.

Separating anti-Muslim bias from factual truth is often difficult. However, it does appear that Amis to some degree is correct.

In fact, more times than not, support for terrorism seems to come from within Muslim society.

Posted by moder8 at 2008-06-28 05:37 PM


Spoken like a true snake:<


Hypocrite Martin Amis who is,not uncoincidentally,a Pro Israel Jew has of course,nothing to say at all about the long litany of well documented Israeli "Terrorism"!

Combat the war on terror?
Why not fight Big Foot or the Loch Ness Monser?

(Are all anglos blind to the persecution
of Muslims and Arabs?)

Me thinks wot these anglo Islamaphobes are under
the influence of the Bushies campaign of fear and
loathing.

End this fairy-tale
/stop invading noble
Arab-Islamic countries.

Be Well.


Hypocrite Martin Amis who is,not uncoincidentally,a Pro Israel Jew has of course,nothing to say at all about the long litany of well documented Israeli "Terrorism"!

Posted by AntiCadillac

There are 7 millions Israelis, there are 1 billion muslims...

The Israelis also don't attack the West.

There are 7 millions Israelis, there are 1 billion muslims...

The Israelis also don't attack the West.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-06-28 09:12 PM

Remember the Liberty? eh? Do you deny that the Israeli's bombed the ship?

Remember the Liberty? eh? Do you deny that the Israeli's bombed the ship?

Posted by dxlingr

Yes that happened, but it was hardly a deliberate act of terrorism.

We've shot down airliners by accident before, we've bombed the Chinese embassy in just about every country in the world... Sometimes bad things happen... the Liberty was an accident.


We've shot down airliners by accident before, we've bombed the Chinese embassy in just about every country in the world... Sometimes bad things happen... the Liberty was an accident.


LOL


What does he mean Muslims haven't been doing enough to fight terror? They've been telling Americans and Israelis to get out for decades. How many ways do they have to say it before the message sinks in?

Compare the continuing and coordinated attacks by Islamics on Western interests over the years with the actions of the Israelis. We have common foes. But both the Israelis and the U.S. are unwilling to acknowledge the innate hostility of Islam to infidels, the pervasiveness of that hostility, and widespread support for terrorist tactics among Islamics. The magnitude of their propensity towards terrorism makes it difficult to confront the threat because of the immensity of the task.

To equate the Islamic predilection to commit terrorist acts and support terrorism with the attitudes and beliefs of any other group, defies reason.

Hopefully Israel will take care of the Iran nuke problem soon. This war on Islamic terror will take a long time without any help from Muslims, but the West will prevail.

Rob,

The Liberty was no accident.

Very well put Johnson. If Obama would like to gain support he should call out the current brand of radical Islam. It is a perverted mix of dangerous asinine religious beliefs, which is unworthy of any respect whatsoever!

I think most Christians are disgusted with the religious perverts in our own country. For example, the group of Christians who protest at the funerals of our service men and women, claiming that God is punishing us for our support of homosexuality. There have been couterprotests for that outrageous group.

I agree heartily agree with McEwins comments, " . . . I myself despise Islamism, because it wants to create a society that I detest, based on religious belief, on a text, on lack of freedom for women, intolerance towards homosexuality and so on . . .

Target the perverted clerics who preach this excrement - to murder innocents. They are vile religious perverts of the worst kind!

Once you liberal idiots come to the conclusion that the only way to "fix" islam is to force them to be moderate, we will be close to peace. In the case of religous extremism, peace is only whose religion is being practiced at the time. We (christians, jews and basically the rest of the world) must defeat islam. Appeasing the religion will not work, and the sooner we realize this, the quicker there will be peace, ours or theirs..

CAIR goes far overboard defending terrorism and needs to back off. Same for its European counterparts. But these organizations are bound to attract the most devout true-believers to volunteer their efforts to make Islam the dominant political force in the free-world.

The ironic thing is, if they succeed, where will we be? In a brave new world of dhimmitude?

They may cause a lot of pain but they won't succeed. The Right and the Left in this country despise their brand of extreme religious fanaticism. If this brand of Islam resembles in any way the teachings of their prophet - I wouldn't name my dog after him.

MWMFOF -- Already the most common name in maternity wards in the UK is the one that you wouldn't even name your dog by. There will be more Moes in London by 2020 than there are Joes!

Well that certainly changes my mind! Sounds like England has a big problem.


***** Once you liberal idiots come to the conclusion that the only way to "fix" islam is to force them to be moderate, we will be close to peace.
Posted by boaz *****

.......and how do you "force" a jihadist to become a moderate Muslim ?.........

......is it the same way one would force a "conservative" Christian to become a moderate wishy washy church attending Liberal ?.......

"Do you deny that the Israeli's bombed the ship?"

Do you deny all the things Arabs have done to Israel? There are really 2 sides to the conflicts they have. Be informed on both sides.

.......and how do you "force" a jihadist to become a moderate Muslim ?.........

With lots and lots of depleted uranium.

**** With lots and lots of depleted uranium.

Posted by reinheitsgebot *****

.......you are confusing moderate with vaporized........

Moderate christians don't do nearly enough to fight the fundies.... same thing.

I think its out of fear that the fundies might be right.

tacit approval.

..........it seems then we agree that to be a fundamentalist in any religion........

......is to be cancer on human progress..........

HC, interesting point. Thought provoking, but look at it this way and you might modify your comment.

When fundies began killing people at planned parenthood and abortion clinics, the entire society, including moderate Christians and Jews jumped in the sh*t of the fundies. When fundie muslims began blowing up people at markets and in buildings what did the moderate muslims do? No way that the moderate muslims have been near as responsive as teh moderate Christians have been.

And I know a lot of homeschooling fundies, and none of them has ever expressed a desire to become a suicide bomber. I know (second-hand) of hundreds or thousands of muslims who think that suicide bombers go straight to Paradise and that they are killing for the benefit of Allah.

No sh*t! Those muslim fundies really think that Allah loves death! SO, I don't think the point is really fair to fundie Christians.

From early Islamic history is the concept of the love of death. This originated in the year 636, when the commander of the Muslim forces, Khalid ibn Al-Waleed, sent an emissary with a message from Caliph Abu Bakr to the Persian commander: "You should convert to Islam, and then you will be safe, for if you don't, you should know that I have come to you with an army of men that love death, as you love life." This account is recited in today's Muslim sermons, newspapers, and textbooks.

On a tape claiming responsibility for the atrocities in Madrid, a man is heard to say, "We choose death, while you choose life." It is a mindset that rejoices in suicide and murder.

Chief Palestinian mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom. There is a great difference between he who loves the hereafter and he who loves this world. The Muslim loves death and martyrdom."

"he who loves the hereafter"

is an idiot.

A dangerous idiot.

HC -- Now back to your thought-provoking and positive point. All of our soldiers, marines and sailors are interacting with noble and honest humans everyday in Iraq and Afghanistan. There is a hope in the US and in Europe for common ground and mutual acceptance between groups, but on the ground in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan and elsewhere, the soldiers absolutely need to find common ground.

The pseudo-Wilsonian idea of "liberating" a country when you know nothing about the underlying culture is foolhardy and naive. But the Bush Cheney neocons thought they knew what they were doing. They certainly made Cheney's and Bush's oil friends wealthier, but they really screwed things up for everyone else. Maybe the average Muslim and the non-Muslim will see the world from the same perspective. But screwups like Cheney, Bush, Rummy and Condi haven't made that very likely anytime soon.

Zat -- Check!

The following is from a conservative source, but the article is generally on target with its initial factset. www.nationalreview.com

And another good analysis of the milenarial mentality of muslim fanatics: www.jstor.org

Overall the Islamic World has seemed to do relatively little to combat the terrorist impulses in their midst.

Americans have secular public education and a free (if limited) press, and re-elected Bush after he lied and invaded Iraq. Pot, kettle?

Neither did President Bush.

We were attacked on 9/11 under Bush And the Republican watch.
Bin Laden has never been caught.
4000+ Americans have died in the wrong country, Iraq.
Saudi Arabia is our enemy.
So is Pakistan.

Maybe the next President can learn to read a map.

whew!

glad i didn't put this one up!

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