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A group of religious leaders that includes a Bush family friend has responded to James Dobson's attack on Barack Obama with a new web site, James Dobson Doesn't Speak for Me: "James Dobson doesn't speak for me when he uses religion as a wedge to divide, he doesn't speak for me when he speaks as the final arbiter on the meaning of the Bible."

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I sure hope so!

Dobson chastised Obama for looking back to Leviticus and old testament.

The funny part is that back in 2006, Dobson used Leviticus in a CNN interview regarding gays.

I guess it's only ok to go back when it suits your purpose.

The fact that people actually gives this clown Dobson, any credibility is a Disgrace. To think that this is suppose to be a religious leader, must make Jesus Christ himself weep.....If this clown speaks for anyone but himself, says nothing for his followers, those Racist Bastards.....

Another example of extremist right wing Republican hypocrites. Just like SCOTUS in Bush vs. Gore, Dobson can quote Leviticus but Obama can't. Different laws for different races, partisans and economic classes. That's what our Democracy is all about.

If it's backfiring it is only because of Democrat media tools are saying it is back firing. Then the tools who comment on the blogs repeat it and thus makes it true.

"If it's backfiring it is only because of Democrat media tools are saying it is back firing. Then the tools who comment on the blogs repeat it and thus makes it true."

OK, let's analyse this.

"only because of Democrat media tools are saying it is back firing. Then the tools who comment on the blogs repeat it and thus makes it"

You end up with:

""If it's backfiring it is true."

Just a little help there in condensing and clarifying the analysis of our reporter KBM.

The fact that people actually gives this clown Dobson, any credibility is a Disgrace. To think that this is suppose to be a religious leader, must make Jesus Christ himself weep.....If this clown speaks for anyone but himself, says nothing for his followers, those Racist Bastards.....
Posted by celisary


CEL - Where's the passion? The outrage? THE EFFING CAPITALS AND EXCLAMATION MARKS??!!!!!????!!!!

!!!!!???

Dobson is a baffoon.

How can you have a logical discussion with anyone who beleieves the world is only 6000 years old.

In 2004, there was near-universal agreement by religious conservatives that their "non-negotiable" issues were limited to abortion, stem-cell research and gay marriage. But Warren and others now insist that the environment and poverty and health care reform are legitimate concerns as well

"...are legitimate concerns as well"?

Wot? Like them "non-negotiables" ARE legitimate?

Fark that notion.

Anti-Abortion = Forced Birth Societies
Anti-Stem Cell Research = Anti Science Clubs
Anti-Gay Marriage = Anti Civil Rights Haters

They are immoral, stupid, de-evolutionary beliefs.

Be Well.

singam, have you ever read scripture? You obviously are a liberal, you take everything out of context to suit your own brainfucked agenda and ideology.
I could explain to you very simply what the meaning of the world being 6000 years old means, but you obviously are too illiterate and have'nt studied Universal/Earth science.I will get back to you on this, but not tonight,I have to prepare for my 6 Sigma test.It will be you that is surprised in the next several years as you turn this world into a living shithole nightmare.

Since Dobson is a raving lunatic, I would think so.


singam, have you ever read scripture? You obviously are a rightwing Christian[sic], you take everything out of context to suit your own brainfucked agenda and ideology.
Posted by rightnut at 2008-06-27 09:35 PM

Now that's what I call a self retorting retort!

I'm with this guy. (not literally but in spirit)

www.youtube.com

Fuck Dobson.

When Dobson has to use an airport bathroom, he stops to put on a pair of tap shows.

"what the meaning of the world being 6000 years old means"

help us out, what does it mean?
did Dinosaurs walk with man (ala flintstones)
Dobson is a YEC isn't he?

Waal, ah'm no bibllical scholar but it seems the Dobson breed (including Hagees, Parsleys and anyone else current) insists on the literal truth of every scriptural word - from Genesis' Adam and Eve (6,000 years ago) to the acid trip surrealism of Revelations, stopping for the dietetic rules and "if a man lieth with a dog both shall be slain" of Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Stop me if I'm wrong, true believers, but you cannot pick and choose which verse you follow and which you ignore. herm

Where EXACTLY in the Bible does it say that Earth is ONLY 6000 Years old??

Larry

Where EXACTLY in the Bible does it say that Earth is ONLY 6000 Years old??

Early times (Creation to Solomon). Ostensibly the easiest period, as the Bible provides an unbroken male lineage from Adam through to Solomon complete with the ages of the individuals involved. However, not all of the versions of the Bible provide the same ages -- the Septuagint gives much longer ages, adding about 1500 years to the date of Creation. Ussher resolved this problem by relying on the Hebrew Bible instead.

Early Age of Kings (Solomon to the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem and the Babylonian captivity). The lineage breaks down at this point, with only the length of the kings' reigns being provided and a number of overlaps and ambiguities complicating the picture. Ussher had to cross-reference the Biblical records with known dates of other people and rulers to create an overall timeline.

Late Age of Kings (Ezra and Nehemiah to the birth of Jesus). No information at all is provided in the Bible. Ussher and his counterparts therefore had to try to link a known event from this period with a dateable event in another culture, such as the Chaldeans, Persians or Romans. For instance, the death of the Chaldean King Nebuchadnezzar II (who conquered Jerusalem in 586 BC) could be correlated with the 37th year of the exile of Jehoiachin (in 2 Kings 25:27).

Using these methods, Ussher was able to establish an unadjusted Creation date of about 4000 BC.


en.wikipedia.org

So it's Man's take on interpritation of the Bible and NOTHING directly from the Bible. Figures.

Larry Mohr

So it's Man's take on interpritation of the Bible and NOTHING directly from the Bible.

Judging by your response, you obviously didn't read the citation, Larry. Sorry I went to the trouble to google your question and answer it if you aren't even going to read it.

Next time, do your own research for your own questions.

If you are just trolling (which it seems), then yes, there is nothing in the bible that says the earth is 6000 YO. Nor is there one that says I am 52 YO. However there is one (my birth certificate) from which my age can be extrapolated.

Capsize?

Where EXACTLY in the Bible does it say that Earth is ONLY 6000 Years old??
Larry

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-06-28 02:02 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag:

You did NOT answer the question. I had asked where EXACTLY in the Bible does it say earth is 6000 Years old. NOT what some guys say about it.

Larry Mohr

I believe Your brain capsized long ago Goatman.

Larry Mohr

Still not reading my posts, are you Larry. Last time. If you don't get it this time, you're on you own. You can lead a horse to water and all that.

No, troll, the bible does not specifically say the earth is 6000 years old. How could it? Nor is there a document that says I am 52 years old. However, there is one that says I was born in 1955 and from that it can be deduced that I am 52.

If the bible said, "Forthwith thou shalt know that the earth is of an age that equals 6000 years" then that would not be accurate the year after it was written, would it? Because 1 years later it would be 6001 years old and the passage would not be accurate.

Ussher deduced the age of the earth using largely biblical passages. If you had read my original post you would know that. But you did not -- you immediately went into troll mode.

You really aren't this dense, are you Larry?

Never mind. Silly question. You are just trolling and I am falling for it.

Later, troll. Or as you idiotically spell it, "trool"

www.albatrus.org


Biblical Age of Earth

by David V. Bassett, M.S.

Beginning with the archeological landmark event of the fall of Jerusalem (which has now been corrected to 588 B.C., instead of 586-587 B.C.) and counting backwards the prophesied number of years between this event and the division of Solomon's kingdom (390 yrs. + 40 yrs., according to Ezekiel 4:4-7), brings us to 1018 B.C.

From the end of Solomon's 40-year reign to the start of the Temple in the 4th year of his reign takes us back another 37 years to 1055 B.C.

From the start of Solomon's Temple "in the 480th year" (1 Kings 6:1) back to the Exodus from Egypt (hence 479 years previous) brings us to near 1534 B.C.

From the Exodus out of Egypt to Abraham's entering Canaan from Haran was exactly 430 years to the day (Gen 12:10/ Exodus 12:40/ Gal 3:17), thus around 1964 B.C.

Since Abraham entered Canaan at age 75 (Gen 12:4), he was born approximately 2039 B.C.

From Abraham's birth to Noah's grandson (Shem's son), Arpachshad's birth, 2 years after the Flood started, was 290 years (Gen 11:11-26), this places the onset of the Flood at around 2331 B.C. [definitely 4,300-4,400 years ago].

The genealogy of Genesis 5:3-32 precludes any gaps due to its tight chronological structure and gives us 1,656 years between Creation and the Flood, thus bringing Creation Week back to near 3987 B.C. or approximately 4000 B.C.

Therefore, the biblical age of the Earth (using Scripture itself as a guide) is 6,000 years !! Mankind did not evolve 4 million years ago on an Earth which is 4.5 billion years old in a universe which was "big-banged" into existence 18-20 billion years in the distant past. Jesus Christ, the Creator Incarnate, said He made mankind male and female in the beginning (Mark 10:6), and that when the heavens and the earth were commanded into being (Gen 1:1), they "stood up together" (Isa 48:13) not billions of years apart !!

www.creationevidence.org

Hey guys, remember how none of this shit matters?

Evidence my balls. How can a book that is largely fiction be evidence for anything, except that many of you people are out of your fucking minds?

"However, there is one that says I was born in 1955 and from that it can be deduced that I am 52."

Or 53...

"How can a book that is largely fiction be evidence for anything"

IT'S THE WORD OF GOD MAN!!!! ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY GOD IS WRONG??!?!?!?!

Therefore, the biblical age of the Earth (using Scripture itself as a guide) is 6,000 years !! Mankind did not evolve 4 million years ago on an Earth which is 4.5 billion years old in a universe which was "big-banged" into existence 18-20 billion years in the distant past. Jesus Christ, the Creator Incarnate, said He made mankind male and female in the beginning (Mark 10:6), and that when the heavens and the earth were commanded into being (Gen 1:1), they "stood up together" (Isa 48:13) not billions of years apart !!


FACT!

Be careful not to be so sure of yourselves:

A farmer who was plowing with a mule stopped to rest under a pecan tree. He sat, looked up, and said to himself; you know, God is not so smart! Look at this pecan tree. He takes something as small as a pecan and puts it in a tree strong enough to hold me up. He takes a pumpkin and puts it on a vine that is so weak it sits on the ground! I've got more since than that! About that time a cool breeze blew in his face and a pecan fell onto his head. He then thought, I sure am glad that wasn't a pumpkin.

ah, I get it now...
Fribo says it is fact, therefore it IS fact.

Seems like I read that in an old book somewhere...

IT'S THE WORD OF GOD MAN!!!! ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY GOD IS WRONG??!?!?!?!


Posted by jpw at 2008-06-28 04:19 AM


Who says it is the word of God? The stories of the bible are stolen stories from older, discarded religions. Genesis--the Garden of Eden--Adam and Eve--the Flood--the Tower of Babel----all stolen from older religions and the older stories make more sense.

The bible is not the Word of God. It is the word of older, discarded religions repackaged for a different power base.

www.amazon.com

Fribo


Good job.


If some dude or dudette on the internet tells me something is true, then by god, there's nothing left to be said.

"18-20 billion years"

wrong

13.7 +/- 0.1

Read a book.

"Posted by rastaninja"

Is it really the return of Lokiderflarastabowa, or just a poser aspiring to mediocrity?

I can personally attest that the earth is 49. By faith I know it is whatever age I am convinced it is, but I can't prove it.

You did NOT answer the question. I had asked where EXACTLY in the Bible does it say earth is 6000 Years old. NOT what some guys say about it.

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-06-28 02:54 AM

Larry, sometimes you are quite possibly the daftest person here. Where exactly does it say the age of the earth in the bible?? Well, if you take all the ages and go through the generations of people dating back to Adam, who existed at the 'beginning of time' you will calculate the beginning of time.

You know, you can do the same thing. You could figure out when your great great great grandfather was born in a similar manner, or do you think such a feat of modern mathematics is impossible? As long as you know who begat who and how old they were, you'll have a pretty good idea of the time period.

"As long as you know who begat who and how old they were, you'll have a pretty good idea of the time period"

So you believe the Earth is 6000 years old, and those civilizations older than 10,000 years and all those dinosaur fossils and 20,000 year old human fossils and 1.5 million year old hominid fossils are all the work of the devil to fool us. or are you just a dumb shit!

**** IT'S THE WORD OF GOD MAN!!!! ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY GOD IS WRONG??!?!?!?!
Posted by jpw ****

......it's not the word of god.......

****** Investigations are on going. We will keep you liberal retards updated.
Posted by ozzieoswald

and

More later.
Posted by ozzieoswald

Ozzie
Do I need to stick around for the results of your investigation?
Or can I go play in my golf tournament and check in later?
I'm really tempted to await your report, but ...
Posted by TedBaxter *******
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Here is a video of Ozzie conducting his investigation.

www.youtube.com


Hey Ozzie......find some more clues up there ??

Ozzie says "We will keep you liberal retards updated.", yet he doen't know what "naturalized citizen" means. (says that since Obama is not a naturalized citizen, he can't run for prez. That's cuz Ozz doesn't know that a naturalized citizen can't run for prez, so not being a naturalized citizen is a good thing for Obama) What a dumb shit!
And he calls others retards. WOW!

Dobson is directly responsible for the deaths of innocent children (suicides) and the breakup of families across this Nation and should be held accountable for the Hate and division he has unleashed on this country.

He has made a profit on Hate and Homophobia and needs to be held accountable for that.

If you have not see this documentary I HIGHLY recommend it.

Don't let you child be a victim...view it WITH your child.

www.youtube.com

They will poo poo you at first then they will have lots of questions so be ready...I have THREE boys and we had a discussion that went for hours after we watched this movie together.

The earth has been racing around the sun for a few billion years and it's going to be doing it for another few billion.

Think about that, you Christian idiots. You really think mankind is going to survive another couple billion years? Do even have a concept of how long that is? It's a little more than 6,000. Humans and all the the flags they've ever raised and all the gods they've ever created, will be gone loooong before the sun goes out and the earth ceases to exist.

We're a tiny hair on a pimple on the ass of time. To think that you have even the slightest understand of or any kind of relationship to the true creative force is egomaniacal madness in the extreme.

you're hoping...

Hey NANC,

Sounds like the basis of his faith, eh? I think if he believes that he is a "tiny hair on a pimple on the ass" then he must be!

ROFLMAO ...oops there went mine!

Dobson has always used religion as a wedge. His religious radio empire does good work in speaking up about Christian values, but Dobson and his empire ought to stay away from politics or risk losing the empire's tax-exempt status. Sure there will be the Coors', Koch's, Scaifes' and Devos' family's billions to contribute to Dobson's empire even without the tax windfall, but when a huge religious organization like Dobson's crosses the line, they should be the first to lose their tax exempt status.

what about the "to the lord, a day is like 1000 years and a1000years is like a day" scripture? boy that just fucked up the whole 6000yr theory.

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