YEAH!

Funny thing is that the gun used by the cartels in this drug war just south of our border ----- all come from america.

Grenades, sniper rifles, RPG's ------ all being sold by Americans.

Ironic that a "christian nation" tolerates this!

So, what your saying is harsher gun control laws do not stop criminals from acquiring them, hmmm.

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Where the hell are you getting that grenade and RPG crap? It's not in your sources nor the blog sources you linked to. The closest was mention of a trial involving a conspiracy to get them. Do you have another hidden source or are you just spouting bullshit again?

"Ironic that a "christian nation" tolerates this! "

Amazing that you would propose a ban on something because it could be misused. It's an inanimate object, not some bloodthirsty killing machine. I always thought freedom was a good thing, i guess not everyone sees it that way.

"Amazing that you would propose a ban on something because it could be misused."

So I should be able to buy an RPG?

So, what your saying is harsher gun control laws do not stop criminals from acquiring them, hmmm.

YEAH!

Except it's not criminals SELLING, its "private gun sellers" and the "Gun Shoe Loophole"!
The exact opposite is what's needed!

And yes, it's ironic that those who scream the loudest about the Drug Trade are the ones who are Arming the Drug Trade.

And I will get you the link since apparently you need the obvious spelled out!!

Yes

You need that gun shoe loophole or else you couldn't tie your laces and they would get in the way.

YEAH!

"The U.S. isn't the only country struggling with the effects of what's coming illegally over the U.S.-Mexico border.

The Washington Post reports that 100 percent of drug-related killings in Mexico are carried out with smuggled American weapons, according to Mexican police. About 2,000 enter Mexico each day, according to a Mexican government study.

The guns are "crucial tools in an astoundingly barbaric war between rival cartels that has cost 4,000 lives in the past 18 months and sent law enforcement agencies in Washington and Mexico City into crisis mode," the Post reports.

Officials at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms hope that some of the money will be used to give Mexican police chiefs greater access to U.S. databases for gun traces. Right now, the traces can only be made through federal police headquarters in Mexico City. That takes so long that many local cops don't bother.

They get into Mexico stuffed into the baggy pant legs or hidden in the trunks of "ants," or gunrunners -- often aided by corrupt customs officials. The weapons are often bought legally at gun shows in Arizona and other border states where loopholes allow criminals to stock up without background checks."

"Except it's not criminals SELLING, its "private gun sellers"

Just like the ones who could sell a car used in a hit and run, or a knife that is used in a stabbing, or a rope used to restrain someone, or a bat used to bash someones skull in, or a box of rat poison, or a small aircraft, or a needle used to inject some sort of toxin, or a anvil used to drop on someones head, or a bench vise to squish someones noggin, or a drill, or a nail gun, or a plumbbob (don't ask those things can hurt), or a chainsaw, or a model rocket, or a bottle rocket, or a sharp pointy stick, or a bow and arrow, or a fence post, or a sack of doorknobs, or a bunch of quarters, or a bowl of water, or a piece of glass.

Are you willing to give up everything for some convoluted hallucination of safety?

YEAH!

Must See Video: American Guns Are Fueling Mexico's Drug Wars -- .50 Caliber Sniper Rifle Used to Kill Mexican Police Officer
Due to America's weak gun laws and the sheer availability of weapons at gun shows and other "secondary market" channels, .50 caliber sniper rifles, assault weapons, handguns and other deadly arms are being trafficked into Mexico. These American weapons are being used against Mexican law enforcement officials and fueling a spiraling drug war among Mexico's drug cartels along our southern border.

So in other words red, you were just spouting your usual shit. You can't find a source for you dumbass grenade and rpg crap can you?

"So in other words red, you were just spouting your usual shit. You can't find a source for you dumbass grenade and rpg crap can you?"

I don't have sound right now so that last one was useless. Not one story mentions US grenades, notice that? Pictures, yes, but excludes any mention,hmm wonder why? Oh thats right because they don't come from here and if the did would not be registered as they are not available to civilians, how could i be so dumb, oh wait that was you.

That should have been registered with a civilian body like the atf.

So would you like to continues typing that unsubstantiated drivel or would you be willing to admit you are a liar?

"Oh thats right because they don't come from here and if the did would not be registered as they are not available to civilians"

YEAH!

is that so?

From one of the links already submitted:

"In January, Mexico's top drug prosecutor said he had been targeted for assassination by three men captured in Mexico City with assault rifles and grenade launchers."

But I doubt you ever looked at them (links).

And here is another link to a different report that essentially says the same thing!

And you still have not offered one iota if info saying they were us supplied. Now i'm sure that you think you can just waltz right into a gun shop and walk out with an RPG but that is not the case, they are in fact illegal two own as are grenades. perhaps you had better bone up on your comprehension skills, just cause it mentions something does not mean it ties it to anything.

Redneckville, Mexicans kill. Do you favor deporting all Mexicans?

At least there are some honest Mexicans. Try the South African leadership. Their head was in cahoots with the drug dealer. South Africa is supposedly the crime capital of the world. Ah. Free. Free at last. And these are the "benefits."

Shouldn't we seek "positive diversity," if we are to seek "diversity," should we finally acknowledge that diversity itself provides no benefits. Who decided that diversity was a virtue and its own excuse for being. Do we also need the Chinese gangs and the Japanese gangs and the Russian gangs now, to enhance our "diversity?"

no

But I was thinking of cleaning my M-1A and having a nice weekend of stuffing empty brass.

The Mexican drug cartels use the same routes back and forth over our border to smuggle drugs and guns as the Mexican illegals do to get in here. Everytime anyone in the U.S. wants to put a real fence on the border, and add National Guard and more Border Patrol the open border libs and the racist groups like La Raza scream and bellyache about it. Close down the drug routes/illegal alien smuggling routes and you will stop U.S. guns from going to Mexico real fast.

Are you all also all so stupid to think that the multi-billions $$$$$ controlled by the Mexican drug cartels come into the U.S. are only spent at U.S. local sporting goods stores to buy their guns? Tons of smuggled guns and ammo is smuggled in from everywhere in the world into Mexico -- including plenty of weapons coming in from China.

You open border libs love to blame the U.S. for everything. We're not to blame for the corrupt mess that is the narco country of Mexico. When are you ever going to hold Mexico responsible for it's greedy corrupt government and ruthless drug cartels instead of always whining and blaming Americans.

btw -- guns are not illegal in Mexico. Try reading Mexico's constitution. Mexicans are allowed to keep guns in their homes to protect themselves. Do you mean to tell me those guns kept in their homes never find their way outside the front door.

Oh, and is America to blame for all the cops and rival drug cartel members who are being beheaded and left to rot on the streets of Mexico's cities? Yeah, you open borders, pro-illegal immigration advocates just keep whining and blaming America instead of putting the blame where it belongs -- on the corrupt mess that is Mexico. You don't like any guns coming in from the U.S.? Then put a real (not virtual) fence all along the border and shut down all the drug/illegal smuggling routes.

Why the virtual fence is Pelosi's idea and it would work sooooo well.

Walk east or west 10 paces and go around the virtual fence.

Mexico is going to have a civil war and spill over to the US. Heck it's already happening.

Every three months there is a blood bath in Tijuana. They (banditos) are stopping Americans on the toll road to Ensenada and kidnapping Americans and they are tortured killed and left for dead.

And they get the money!

Nuevo Laredo is worse. And there was a recent story here on the DR (??) that the Mexican Army was in Arizona breaking into someone's house. WTF!!!

Guns are all over Latin America. When you open border "blame America first" zealots keep whining it's American guns are you really dumb enough to think no weapons ever get thru Mexico's own southern border. Just keep bitching and complaining about the U.S. and never put the blame where it really belongs -- on Mexico. Do you mean to tell me none of the guns written about in the link below could have ever gotten into Mexico from Guatemala, El Salvador, etc.

Many U.S. cities are now fighting the extremely violent gangbangers from MS-13 who poured over our southern border into the U.S. coming here from El Salvador -- and they bring their guns with them. MS-13 gangmembers get across our country's borders by ((( drumroll ))) crossing over thru Mexico. Are you that naive (read: stupid) enough to think many of those MS-13 weapons don't stay in Mexico as payment for safe passage up to our border. These gangs and drug cartels all work together and the majority are all from south of the border.

Now what was it you pro-open border libs were saying again about it being ONLY the U.S.'s fault for all the guns in Mexico? Give me a f--king break. Try for once putting the blame where it belongs -- on Mexico's corruption and crime.

Funny how this has already become an anti 2nd Amendment thread - thought it was about the corruption in MEXICO, EXCEPT THE LEFT HERE CANNOT HELP BUT TO VILIFY AMERICA WHENEVER THEY CAN. Guess if this country sold any weapons this 'unfortunate situation' would have never occurred.

ps: the above comments were made for the condemn America for any/all wrong in the world crowd (99.9% liberals).

YEAH!
Funny thing is that the gun used by the cartels in this drug war just south of our border ----- all come from america.
Grenades, sniper rifles, RPG's ------ all being sold by Americans.
Ironic that a "christian nation" tolerates this!
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Posted by Redneckville at 2008-06-27 12:01 PM

That's because most "good" Christians are completely ignorant to the entire affair, as if by design, but mainly by choice.

You should see what the Chinese are getting from Magnum. It appears that all of these manufacturers are in on it and have been for years - mercs and terrorists require "protection" too.

"Traitorous scum" barely encapsulates these weapons manufacturers true nature.

We can invade a non-threatening nation, but can't secure the economic welfare of our own by helping our neighbors. Classy, America. Real fucking classy.

The Mexicans that I've met have left that drug cartel violence seeking Democracy and protection. What the hell is WRONG with our politicians?! Don't they see this as a tremendous national security risk?! Oh, that's right - Bush Sr. and the CIA instituted these drug cartels.

Will someone PLEASE nuke Kennebunkport? Hello?? Terrorists?? Anyone?!

Funny how this has already become an anti 2nd Amendment thread - thought it was about the corruption in MEXICO, EXCEPT THE LEFT HERE CANNOT HELP BUT TO VILIFY AMERICA WHENEVER THEY CAN. Guess if this country sold any weapons this 'unfortunate situation' would have never occurred.
ps: the above comments were made for the condemn America for any/all wrong in the world crowd (99.9% liberals).
Posted by MSgt at 2008-06-27 11:46 PM

Right, we're just asshole anti-gun terrorist sympathists. Geeze, you got me pegged.

Dipshit responses like yours deserve a good bitch slap.

Okay, so we're just going to permit our American weapons to be sold to drug cartels so that you and your drug cartel sympathizers make your SUV payments? FUCK you. Oh, and how many of these cartels are "liberals"? None? And how many have ties to Republican weapons and drug trade? All? Now how FUCKING amazing is that?

It's 10:34am and there is gun fire outside my apartment. I will tell you now that those people are NOT "hippie liberal pinko-commie fags". They are drug dealers, not pot smokers. They are not interested in "politics" or your moronic labels.

In short, stuff it "Master Sergeant".

And how many have ties to Republican weapons and drug trade?
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Righto,untill a democrat gets in ...then it will be democrat weapons and drug trade... funny how that works.

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It's 10:34am and there is gun fire outside my apartment.
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Oh yeah? How much money do you make?

Either arm up or move.

rwd