Oh and pray tell what chemicals will LA administer to women who maliciosuly make false rape acussations? You know, like the whore in the Duke case who did not get punished at tall?

Wouldn't it be easier if Gov. Jindal just exorcised them?

Haven't statutes just like this repeatedly been struck down as unconstitutional?

"Haven't statutes just like this repeatedly been struck down as unconstitutional?"

I don't believe so. The ACLU has labeled the practice cruel and unusual punishment, but there are statutes that allow it in California, Florida, Georgia, Texas, Louisiana, and Montana.

I don't mean cruel and unusual punishment, I thought I've read old cases that said it violated the right to privacy, more specifically the right to procreate. Looks like I have some reading to do.

Joe, I thought they had been struck down as well but Doc is right. I could have sworn this would be a privacy or cruel and unusual punishment issue.

What happens if someone is wrongly convicted, are these things reversable like a hysterectomy?

"What happens if someone is wrongly convicted, are these things reversable like a hysterectomy?"

Well, that really does get to the heart of the matter, doesn't it? I don't know for sure, but my guess is it's not reversible. Also, there appear to be some unpleasant side-effects. Bear in mind my source du jour is Wikipedia, so cuidado as they say on the border.

I believe chemical castration is on a voluntary basis out here in California. Some sex offenders volunteer for if they think it'll help them get a shorter jail sentence or probation. Volunteering to have chemical castration is often done by convicted pedophiles -- those perverts can never be cured of their desire to sexually molest young children.

What happens if someone is wrongly convicted...

Whoops!

This Jindal guy really has some issues. He just can't seem to have enough ways to harm humans. The word sadistic comes to mind when I read his words.

He says that this will "put a stop to these monsters' brutal acts,""

No it won't. No more so than locking convicted rapists up for the rest of their lives. There will be others. This won't even come close to stopping these 'Brutal Acts'.

It is just an irrational reaction from someone who cannot put their emotions aside and do the right thing.

What is wrong with Life in Prison for our most violent rapists?

To think that anyone has the right to mutilate or kill another human being on this planet for any reason at all is wrong. We have prisons to keep society safe from the convicted, but for the emotional bloodthirsty, irrational thinking among us, this Prison just isn't god enough.

Next, you all will want to cut the hands off of shoplifters.

You sick fucks.

Today on the local news they were talking about a guy released in 2003 after being wrongly convicted of rape. Apparently the police think they have now found the person who really did it.

Taking into account the phrase:

Do the crime, do the time:

The guy released in 2003 should be allowed to beat this other guy to a pulp for letting him take his wrap and not stepping forward. If he did the time, give him a freebie.

"Next, you all will want to cut the hands off of shoplifters.

You sick fucks."

That's how they do it in Muslim countries.

Allah Akbar!

I abhor the idea of chemical castration for certain sex offenders.

I think above a certain level of heinousness, it should be physical castration. I don't hold with today's notion that every conceivable thing that happens with a man's pee-pee outside the bonds of holy matrimony is a sex crime, but there are situations where it's damn dead certain that Uncle Woody is going to keep on molesting and raping until he's rendered physically unable to do so.

Castration meds work only as long as they're taken, which means you have to physically keep tabs on offenders. Cojone-cutting is the gift that keeps on giving. You lose the urge, you lose the ability, you get a whole new shape that makes you perfect for little-theatre productions of Greater Tuna. Win-win-win.

So far as the "reproductive rights" of sex offenders go, I say - with no irony intended - "fuck 'em." There comes a point in criminal behavior when I think the state has the right to determine what your rights are from that point onward - not you and sure as hell not the ACLU.

And oh, yeah - any woman proved to have made a false accusation of rape should get thrown in the slammer for a very, very, very long time. Ruining a man's life by getting him tagged as a sex offender is, if anything, lower than rape itself. Women can get over rape, though it's difficult. Falsely accused men can't get over lifetime restrictions and ostracism imposed on them by the legal system.

MANYPATHS:

You are so pussifed with your arguments.

Some people cross the line so far - to an evil extreme - that only death is appropriate for the evil doer. Why don't you save your compassion-attack for the victim? - ya know - the little girl that had her vagina, rectum and life destroyed by a monster.

Misguided, ignorant stupid pitiful liberal.
You're the sick fuck.

Joe,

Stop reviewing legal precedents....cause you doesn't have gone to a big and prestigious lawyer school likens I did.

mOntecore

Louisiana really hate those rapists!!! ... They can't kill ya so they will cut yer Dick off!!! Prison and rehabilitation just don't git it down there in them thar parts!

Ouch! Well, I guess if they wrongly convict you at least you are still alive! Missing a small appendage but still alive! I am sure they will compensate you for that, of course.

Now how about them thar woman rapists... what we gonna do bout them bitches? WE gonna fill em full of concrete or what ya'll?

Some people cross the line so far - to an evil extreme - that only death is appropriate for the evil doer. Why don't you save your compassion-attack for the victim? - ya know - the little girl that had her vagina, rectum and life destroyed by a monster.

Misguided, ignorant stupid pitiful liberal.
You're the sick fuck.

Posted by dean_buvia

...because as we all know, it's impossible to care about the rights of accused people and criminals unless you don't give a shit about the victims.
What a simpleton.

ok... realistically now that I read the article I see that "Castration" is not really physical Castration so you get to keep yer appendage...so I guess as long it is reversible that is reasonable enough...does it work for "problem" women (I don't really know how many there are..) too?

Wouldn't it be easier if Gov. Jindal just exorcised them?

Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Honestly, it sounded like a lot work with Susan and those were in his robust college years. I bet he'd be tired to try something like that again now...

"...because as we all know, it's impossible to care about the rights of accused people "

Hey einstein they don't castrate them until they are convicted and then they are no longer accused they are guilty.

Huh? What's wrong with a sharp knife?

And oh, yeah - any woman proved to have made a false accusation of rape should get thrown in the slammer for a very, very, very long time

Just doesn't happen Mary. They're all emotionally disturbed and so they are the real victims.

This is a great idea. I actually posted this yesterday. I don't think it should be enforced by the judge though. When one gets a life sentence for child rape, there needs to be no parol. NONE...except if the convicted opts for castration. Would that satisfy your blood lust MANYPATHS?

Very practical --- but liberals and ACLU may not like it: they are always for accomodating the rights of criminals regardless of the safety of decent citizens.

"...because as we all know, it's impossible to care about the rights of accused people "

Hey einstein they don't castrate them until they are convicted and then they are no longer accused they are guilty.

Posted by Dalton

...hey Einstein, I wrote "...and criminals".

Yeah Takky, decent citizens don't need no stinkin' Bill of Rights.

"Next, you all will want to cut the hands off of shoplifters.

You sick fucks."

That's how they do it in Muslim countries.

Allah Akbar!

Posted by member2586

And....

Their crime rate is much much lower than ours.

Huh? What's wrong with a sharp knife?

Posted by Unclesam

I think this is in the law too, hopefully.

Their crime rate is much much lower than ours.

Posted by Eddie

Why do you hate America, Eddie? Love it or leave it; isn't that the conservative mantra? Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable living with your conservative brethren in Saudi Arabia.

Talk about stupid... did anybody tell the ol' guvnah that rape is about power and control and not exactly about sex?

How does "and criminals" change anything? Once they are convicted they get their penalty.

I concede I may be missing some point you are trying to make.

Chemical castration is a good start. In addition however, how about cutting off their cock and balls?

Fuck them prison is to good for them put a bullet in their skulls, cheaper than prison and a sure fire way to make sure they take their drugs, oh wait bleading hearts may not like this, how bout they get raped or their daughters or wifes then see what their tude is bout this topic. why oh why is Manson still sucking air???

Castration? That's nuts.

How does "and criminals" change anything? Once they are convicted they get their penalty.

I concede I may be missing some point you are trying to make.

Posted by Dalton

Has an innocent man ever been convicted of a crime? Do you sew the johnson back on a guy after it's proven he was wrongly convicted? If a false accuser knows she'll be punished severely if she 'fesses up, isn't she more likely to stick to her lie?

oh wait bleading hearts may not like this,
Posted by GenSherman

Nor defenders of the Constitution.

"Ve cut off your johnson, Lebowski"

Just in case no one else said it---This is nuts!

Figures, Louisiana is right next to Bushes state.

Figures, Louisiana is right next to Bushes state.

Have there been any studies to show this actually works?

It's overkill punishment if you just put the child rapist in prison for the rest of their life and castrate them chemically.

They shouldn't be let out to even miss one injection to do the same crime.

They will ditch the shot and disappear--then what?

Keep them in prison forever--Great deterrance--

This kind of thing reminds me back in the 60's when they would lobotomize people--just because they were a little slow mentally--or electric shocks to quite them down.

"One Flew over the Cuckoo Nest"

And I am not saying the child rapist is mentally diseased. As everything tried on these types of people does not work as a cure. Death and life in prison would work!

CC is right in the CA law--they have to volunteer to take the shots--

Again no studies to see if that worked or if the gov't knows where they are.

I want them locked up forever.

"Women can get over rape, though it's difficult. Falsely accused men can't get over lifetime restrictions and ostracism imposed on them by the legal system."

MaryTyler -

Hahahaha - surely, you jest!

No?

W T F

Are you FUCKING SERIOUS?!??!?!

Yes - cause its so easy - you must know. Do you know what self-loathing is? Have you ever wanted to crawl out of your fucking skin? 20 years DOES NOT lessen the pain.

STFU. You have NO FUCKING clue.

Yes - "I'm F***ing you - I am - you can't do anything about it bitch - look at me when I'm f***ing you."

Thats right - its difficult - but possible - right?

You asshole.

ani try some xanax it works wonders

Xanax - Anxiety or depression? I have neither. Did It disturb you?

Maybe you are the one that needs Xanax - or Lithium for that matter.

the retort is all I'll ever need. when the old lady and kid left me i just chuckled cuz I knew I still had the retort. when i was laid off I laughed too cuz I still had the retort. when I was locked up all I could think of was getting back to the retort.

This feels good. Let's do it. Probably what this vile child rapist was thinking to himself as he tore that child up. A developed, civilized democracy has laws and constitutional frameworks to differentiate itself from the kind of thinking that child rapists use. That's one of the differences between us and what goes on in Zimbabwe, Iraq and Darfur. We shouldn't throw all that away in anger, good though it might make us feel till the chickens came home to roost.

Put this sick bastard in jail for the rest of his unnatural life. Use one of the cells currently occupied by a pot smoker.

"Would that satisfy your blood lust MANYPATHS?"

You would have to ask the mutilated little girl that question.

the double jeopardy argument comes into play when you send them to prison then cut off parts of the body..+ who is to say that the castration cant be used as a punishment for other non sex related crimes?

It would effectively reduce the "testosterone"

That's why states have given the "option" of chemical castration in return for release from prison, but if they opted out, they had to stay in prison for their full term
But then again, the courts have turned a blind eye on sex offender registeries
Louisana has to prove that its tougher than Texas

Okay, rape is less about sex than about control.
It'll be interesting to see if there is a redution in rape or just a switch to other forms of violence and penetration.

I predict an increase in violated patio furniture.

chemical castration

thats no fun

machete!

What is wrong with Life in Prison for our most violent rapists?

Posted by Manypaths

What is wrong with rebuilding Iraq with your money?

Because my money shouldn't be spent to do that.

Well, I don't think my money should be spent to feed, clothe, provide healthcare and education, gyms, prayer rooms, condoms, etc. etc. etc. for prisoners.

Prison is punishment. Not free room and board. There should be nothing for them to do but work and sleep. And, the work should be as hard as what the military is put through. Boot Camp for the term of sentence.

Castration. Is this proportional to the crime?

Isn't that what SCOTUS said about the death penalty case for the rapist. Wasn't proportional?

Let's see them eat those words.

So now sexual mutilation is legal.

Really moving forward as a society aren't we?

It's called punishment for a crime. You can be sold into slavery if convicted of a crime.

To think that anyone has the right to mutilate or kill another human being on this planet for any reason at all is wrong. We have prisons to keep society safe from the convicted, but for the emotional bloodthirsty, irrational thinking among us, this Prison just isn't god enough.

you are joking right? look at the prison sentencing for violent offenders, do you agree with them? the prisons are over crowded and sentencing is shortened to alleviate the problem. our judges are not protecting us, too many believe in rehab and that it actually takes place behind bars. life sentencing, what a joke.

So Kobe is down to 49 states.

Rape and murder are inhumane.

Chemical castration and the death penalty are inhumane.

How can two inhumane things, added together, make a humane thing?

I hate sex offenders as much as the next guy, however, this law is too broad (they originally wanted it to be applied to a wide variety of offenses - think peeing in the back alley after going to the bar might get you castrated). Is this America or Saudi Arabia?

I also find it interesting that this governor vowed to execute child rapists even though the supreme court struck down that law. He obviously has no respect whatsoever for the rule of law.

As my pappy used to say "Child rapers should have their members nailed to a barn floor. Give em a knife and set the barn on fire".

Somehow the threat of having your family jewels cut off might be a good deterant. Of course making sure you got the right guy is important. I would like to think this is selectively applied to repeat offenders or particularly violent types.

And who needs their genes in the pool anyway?

I don't have to "cling" to my gun in fear that a liberal would take it away anymore!

FACT!

Posted by James_Dean at 2008-06-26 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag

RETARD, YOU'RE FINALLY STARTING TO GET THE HANG OF IT!

You finally used 'fact' correctly.

Next, we'll work on 'opinion'.

Just show them pictures of that plastic spackle-faced fossil called Cindy 'I am and thief and a drug addict' McCain.

That's enough to scare a starving dog off a meat wagon.

I seem to have heard of both chemical and medical castration failures. The failures did not involve any type of physical penetration by any organic structure. A three times sex offender was voluntarily medically de-balled. His urges still led him to continue to offend. It seems that in addition to any form of castration, a lobotomy is indicated.

CC is right in the CA law--they have to volunteer to take the shots--

Again no studies to see if that worked or if the gov't knows where they are.

I want them locked up forever.

Posted by MURPHY

I am afraid that in this I fail as a Christian. And I must disagree with you. I do not believe in life without parole. I do believe that if an individual must be permanently incarcerated, they will be. It will only be long enough to determine positively guilty beyond doubt. He/she will receive a nice painless injection of a pure form of opiate that will leave no doubt of condition.

This treatment and only this treatment is beyond the ability of the offender to re-offend.

"The castration treatments would start no later than a week before an incarcerated offender's release from prison."

Why not before being incarcerated? There are rapes in prison as well. This will just make the rapists want to stay in prison so their junk wont be de-comissioned thus costing us more money. If your going to funk the junk, do it prior to sending them to the big house.

I would suspect chemical castration would not prevent a child molester from continuing to molest children in other ways. We need tougher laws on this crap! The guy who raped the 8 tear old should have already been executed! "Because judgement against evil is not executed speedily, therefore the hearts of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil". We could have 1st degree rape, kidnapping (parents excluded from 1st degree), and child molestation. It is outrageous that we don't severely punish the heinous crimes perpetrated on our children!

1st degree rape, kidnapping, and murder - should be punishable by death!