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The 100 Year Flood Plane (sic) FantasyA 100 year flood plane (sic) is going to flood.

Zat -- I know your spell checker did not catch it since "plane" is a word, but it is a flood plain, not plane.

Live by the spell checker, die by the spell checker.

Hush up, Goatmam. If there's one thing Zat can do, it's spell.

You know what Goatmam? I've been meaning to tell you something! You equal shit.

"If there's one thing Zat can do, it's spell."

And police everyone else's spelling.

A plane is a mathematical concept, like sea level, only local.

(FLASH! 1602, 92% of Romans believe the Earth is flat!)

You missed the point and took the bait again, Goatma'am.

Too bad the idiots who pretended a 100 year flood plain would never flood never comprehended that.

"If there's one thing Zat can do, it's spell."

I hear the Federal Highway Commision is hiring sign painters.

You missed the point and took the bait again, Goatma'am.

Posted by Zatoichi at 2008-06-24 06:36 PM | Reply

Let's have a video replay. I don't recall the "ma'am". I specifically remember "Goatmam=shit".

Check out the fiasco downstream of New Braunfels.

Gerrymandering the flood plain boundaries benefits (in the short term) local developers and local governments whose tax base is expanded.

Then FEMA says it can't flood and we all get to subsidize the insurance.

Living behind Levees is Ludicrous.

Notice the fact that the French Quarter didn't flood in Katrina. Mr Brennan never left.

My house is at 613 MSL.
Bastrop, LA is at 126 MSL.
Bastrop, TX is at 466 MSL.
The old Austin Mueller airport was at 613 MSL.

I won't be needin' y'all's help for flood insurance anytime soon.

A "100-year" flood has a 39% chance of occuring in any given 50 year period.

FEMA never says "it can't flood". FEMA and the NFIP through FEMA, provide "flood risk zones" to determine flood insurance rates.

Zat, if the nearest flooding source to you is at 612 MSL, it does not matter what elevation Bastrop or the airport is.

Levees provide an acceptable amount of risk protection as determined by FEMA and the lending industry. Flood insurance is not required behind certified levees. The French Quarter is still located behind a levee, but above sea level. The majority of areas flooded in NO from Katrina were below sea level - guess the French were right about something.

If you want to live behind a levee, you need to be aware of the risks. Same as living in the "100-year" floodplain. - which is now being changed to 1% annual chance floodplain.

Developers often reclaim the "floodplain" for use because of its proximity to stormwater outfall locations and scenery. In some locations in Texas, specifically the Houston area, a majority of the area left for development near the business districts are located within the mapped floodplain.

"I don't recall the "ma'am"."

Figures.

Damn 82nd are all drunks.
It was dad's last outfit.

This was made by a soldier in WWII while he recovered from combat injuries. It was a gift to my father.

It's the centerpiece of my rogue's gallery.

A plane is a mathematical concept, like sea level, only local.

Nice try, zat, but you still misspelled it in the context you used it.

That thing in the eagle's right claw with Obama looked like a big stick of 'dro.

Nothing stopped the residents from purchasing flood insurance on their own. In fact, they would have received a preferred rate.

Reading the story, FEMA, the local government and the lending institutions did everything they were supposed to do. Maybe the residents should take a little initiative and research where they live. The nanny state at work again (well the gov. said I was ok and would not flood) Where is the self reliance?

The mandatory requirement of flood insurance behind levees should be determined by the lender, not the government. If the lenders think that their "investment" is at sufficient risk, they can require the borrower to purchase flood insurance. If the homeowner thinks their "investment" is at sufficient risk, they can purchase flood insurance. No need to force another requirement on a homeowner. Significant numbers of homes located behind levees are low income. Forcing them to purchase insurance is just another burden.

I don't recall the "ma'am".

Zat later admitted he made two mistakes -- missing a letter and an apostrophe, instead of only making one by using a 'm' instead of an 'n' in the last letter.

IOW, his spelling without a spell checker is more atrocious than we originally thought.

Tsk tsk Goat. Don't you know Zat invented the flood plane, and is currently in legal battles with the Air Force over the patents?

Tsk tsk Goat. Don't you know Zat invented the flood plane, and is currently in legal battles with the Air Force over the patents?

I'm waiting for him to post a photo of him in his "flood plane" flying over some mountains and telling us he was all alone.

That's not true, Cookie. Zat didn't invent the flood plane (but he is the one who made it famous).

Will the insurance companies pay up for those 28% or will they do the best for their shareholders and tell them to lump it or sue if they don't like it? History says the latter. More and more "Conservative Judicial Appointments" just means people that understand (wink wink) that the burden of proof will be on the flood victim and the Insurance Industry are deserving of every hairsplitting escape clause.

Posted by Zatoichi at 2008-06-24 06:36 PM

A plane is a mathematical concept, like sea level, only local.

(FLASH! 1602, 92% of Romans believe the Earth is flat!)

What about Riemann. What about Lobachevsky. Come on. Tell us about their planes.

Join "hyperbolica."

Hush up, Goatmam. If there's one thing Zat can do, it's spell.

Posted by mOntecOre

Let's not sell the man short monte... Where else am I going to get 75 posts a day featuring pictures of a dead cat?

Please note the location, Gulfport, Illinois. God is punishing Illinois for electing Obama, a man giving fealty to the Antichrist.

If the United States is not to suffer great catastrophes, Obama must be rebuked by being rejected by the electorate.

I can see where the insurance companies are coming from in this respect. Living below sea level is akin to demanding insurance for being struck by lightning when it's your fetish to run around in lightning storms carrying a long metal rod.

"...... when it's your fetish to run around in lightning storms carrying a long metal rod."

Yeah, those people are crazy.

My fetish is to wrap myself in aluminum foil and climb trees during a lightning storm.

If the United States is not to suffer great catastrophes, Obama must be rebuked by being rejected by the electorate.

Posted by Johnson

Given the disasters of 9-11, Iraq, afghanistan and Katrina before this, I'd say somebody's God is pissed at the Republicans and SCOTUS for appointing Bush in 2000.

Think what He'll do if they install Bush's imp McSame in 2008!

Better learn to dog paddle and speak farsi.

I hear the Federal Highway Commision is hiring sign painters.

Posted by wisgod at 2008-06-24 06:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

....and in the case of Zat, that would be a sine painter....that should be plane to everyone....

My fetish is to wrap myself in aluminum foil and climb trees during a lightning storm.

Posted by Sully

Ahh, but are you claiming that you should be insured is the key.

when that's your fetish, you're not asking for insurance, you're asking for subsidy.

Will the insurance companies pay up for those 28% or will they do the best for their shareholders and tell them to lump it or sue if they don't like it?
Posted by nutcase

Flood insurance is Federally backed. Insurance companies just write the policies. The reason the NFIP was started was because insurance companies new it was not profitable to provide flood insurance. These 28 will be paid by premiums supplied by others who have flood insurance.

"Ahh, but are you claiming that you should be insured is the key."

Insurance is for Europeans and pussies.

Insurance is for Europeans and pussies.
Posted by Sully

Have fun tree climbing in your tinfoil garb, you psycho! ;-)

Why is a town in Illinois named "Gulfport"?

Is it on the gulf of Illinois? Well I guess it is now.

The anazing part is that almost no one had flood insurance because FEMA didn't REQUIRE it. Why do people rely on the Federal Government to tell them what to do?. They must be Democrats. Next they will be crying and blaming Bush. STUPID FUCKS!! They're almost as stupid as those idiots in New Orleans.

Sorry, but this doesn't look like it is the government's fault.

Rivers and streams flood. They always have, they always will.

Build levees and you channel the water higher and higher instead of allowing it to go where it usually would have but for the artificial massed of dirt piled up in an attempt to control mother nature. Sooner or later the forces of old mom will prevail and the levees will indeed rupture, like they did in NOL and like they did in Iowa and Illinois and Missouri and elsewhere. Corps of engineers or not these floods WILL happen. And, they are supposed to by the way.

Oh well, live behind a levee and only STUPID people refuse to spend the bucks on flood insurance. Iowa and NOL are no different here. Not the governments fault but instead those idiots who think they can live below sea level or behind a levee, believing the guvmnt will take care of them in their use of STUPID!!! Water always goes to the lowest level first! Water floods the lowest levels first. live in a flood plain, 50 year, 100 year or 500 year makes no difference. STUPID is as STUPID DOES and that will never change.

next subject!

Please note the location, Gulfport, Illinois. God is punishing Illinois for electing Obama, a man giving fealty to the Antichrist.

If the United States is not to suffer great catastrophes, Obama must be rebuked by being rejected by the electorate.

Posted by Johnson

If this is serious, this is one seriously f-ed up dude.

"They must be Democrats. Next they will be crying and blaming Bush."

Only a partisan moron would try to claim they are Democrats when you have absolutely no information but we do know who told them they didn't need flood insurance and who appointed the head of that agency.....you guessed it....George W. Bush....never met an incompetent Republican he didn't like.

Typical media...blame it on the government...the government is supposed to do everything for us. WHAT HAPPENDED TO PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY??? I wasn't required to purchase flood insurance when I bought my house, however, I still researched it to determine whether or not my area was in danger of flooding. It's not FEMA's fault, it's the homeowners' fault for not doing their due diligence.

"It's not FEMA's fault, it's the homeowners' fault for not doing their due diligence."

I agree with you there but by the same token FEMA should not have been telling people they don't need coverage. That was irresponsible and will cost many families their homes.

My house is at 613 MSL.
Bastrop, LA is at 126 MSL.
Bastrop, TX is at 466 MSL.
The old Austin Mueller airport was at 613 MSL.

I won't be needin' y'all's help for flood insurance anytime soon.

Posted by Zatoichi

The flood plain at any location has nothing to do with Mean Sea Level. It has all to do with the high water mark when a river flows over its banks. There are flood plains way up in the mountains.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FLOOD IN CEDAR RAPIDS, IOWA TO THAT OF NEW ORLEANS.....????

When New Orleans flooded, someone ranted and raved to the media that it was a "racist plan to wipe out black people !!"

Now that white people are getting a flood of historical proportions, we need to investigate who it was that said the disaster in New Orleans was a racist act.

An idiot on CNN said that this year's flood reminded them of the disaster in New Orleans. How can that be....????

A careful observation shows that as the flood in Des Moines & Cedar Rapids inundated these communities, there were not any visible signs of looting or vandalism. Also, people weren't wandering around in the streets looking to create problems for others.

No grocery carts were being shoved & pulled through swirling waters carrying big screen HD TV's and stereos, people weren't sitting on tops of their homes waiting for the government to come and rescue them.

The city police did not abandon their posts and there wasn't anyone whining to the media about how the government and George Bush were failing them at such a critical time.

What happened in Des Moines & Cedar Rapids is very similar to the disaster in New Orleans. However, the city streets in Des Moines & Cedar Rapids were empty. This is because people politely left when authorities told them to evacuate. They didn't whine or blame the government for all the broken levees. They did what most responsible people will do in a crisis, they pitched in and helped their neighbors or people they did not know.

YOU CAN DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS...

"""Typical media...blame it on the government...the government is supposed to do everything for us. WHAT HAPPENDED TO PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY??? """

An old lady slips and falls down on the sidewalk. She asks the first person walking by for a hand. Unfortunately, it's a right wing stooge and he states: "fuck you bitch!! I fell yesterday and got up on my own! It's not my fault you fell down, stupid! Why should I help you?!" and proceeds to shake his head while walking by.

nice story pancho. However your hatefullness of the right has nothing to do with this comparison. Nobody said not to help the old lady up but rather the federal govt helping the lady up.

the point is that the old ladies in Iowa were all helped up.......just not by FEMA.

The accountability factor involves taking precautions to prevent the fall, not walking on banana peels, and then bemoaning your fate.

The different demographics tell the story. the New Orleans crowd contained large numbers of indigents, who've spent a lifetime being served by a government that returns sustenance for votes.

The demographic may also signify that the characteristics ranging from basic intelligence to energy levels are not present in the New Orleans population to the extent that they are in what is more or less, the American heartland.

Maybe we have a demographic that cannot sustain itself, and so requires support of others in the community. Every time that demographic is thrown on its own, a malfunction ensues. Look at Detroit. Look at Baltimore. Look at the sub-Saharan African countries, and weep for the people. The proportion of persons, who function below par for our society is very disproportionate, and continues despite remedies attempted that cannot make a silk purse out os a sow's ear. Can these communities maintain themselves at the technological level that modern society seems to require.

Is a society sustainable with one man - one vote, when the numbers of indigents, who are largely parasitic consumers, continues to grow and require more and more support from those more productive. They seem to have a grievance collector mentality, and there is no satisfying them as grievances abound and are voiced continuously by various spokesmen, who agitate the demographic.

How do the different communities cope? Why?

How do the different communities cope? Why?

"An old lady slips and falls down on the sidewalk. She asks the first person walking by for a hand. Unfortunately, it's a right wing stooge and he states: "fuck you bitch!! I fell yesterday and got up on my own! It's not my fault you fell down, stupid! Why should I help you?!" and proceeds to shake his head while walking by."

You forgot the part where the guy is on his way to his local church, where he praise Christ for his message of compassion, charity and tolerance.

**** Why is a town in Illinois named "Gulfport"?
Posted by FreddyK *****

......town council voted to change it to "Lakeview".....

100 Year flood?

More like a 15 Year flood!

The same thing happened back in 93.

Isn't requiring people to get flood insurance the same as demanding people take personal responsibility?

We can't just walk away from a flooded region for the simple reason that it would cause too much disruption to the national economy to take huge swaths of the country out of play. At the same time, I just don't see how it's unreasonable to require home and business owners to insure themselves against likely disasters, instead of waiting for a Federal bailout.

Only gamblers build in a flood plain. I see it every day. Just a matter of time. I have seen 100-year floods in the past 20 years.

Build on higher ground!