"Nice guy" is synonymous with "pussy," nobody likes a pussy, dethspud. You can not be a complete dick while at the same time not letting people walk all over you... show a little confidence and you'll be swimming in poon... except Dethspud.

I want a cave man type with a heart of gold.

cave man type

Why did the caveman club the cavewoman over the head and then drag her back to his cave by the hair?

Cos if he carried by her ankles she'd fill up with sand.

Nice guy?

Kiss of death, babe.

Be Well.

Hey I'd rather be a "pussy" and keep My soul than to be a Macho dude and lose it.

Larry Mohr

About Jenna Jameson
Ya can't make a hooker into a house wife.

Hey I'd rather be a "pussy" and keep My soul than to be a Macho dude and lose it.

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr

I have no response to that.

Hey I'd rather be a "pussy" and keep My soul than to be a Macho dude and lose it.

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr

now by "soul" do you mean "virginity?"

I believe "soul" is a breed.

CC -- Chris = Christine?

T&C

CC -- Chris = Christine?

Yes.

There is a school of "date coaching" that emphasized guys being "cocky and funny" to stimulate attraction from women. Apparently it is much more effective than being subservient (read, polite and courteous and empathetic) and shy. The line of analysis goes something like this -- arrogant/cocky men are filled with testosterone. Funny men, who can pair their humor to cockiness, are self confident in a less offensive way, meaning they can defuse a woman's hesitancy.

On the other hand, when trying to get a date with an attractive woman, a guy who goes out of his way to be nice is marked as subservient and submissive -- bot a good way to stimulate interest; and the finer the woman, the more competition the man has for her affections, and hence the more he has to lose by being perceived as wimpy.

Still, there is a funny thing about the short-term strategy of cocky, arrogant and funny men. In a while, there has to be an emotional connection that goes beyond the short-term. If the hitter cannot make the shift from caveman to reasonably empathetic partner the sense of satisfaction with the relationship begins to dissipate and with it the woman's sense of fulfillment.

Extend this analogy to politicians.... then to countries... you'll see why we're screwed.

Women like a man who knows who he is and what he's about. No pussys allowed. That being said you can still be a man and not be a total cock.

101 FF

Why Nice Guys Finish Last

Woman should cum first. Rob doesn't understand THAT, either

I never have understood why a woman goes for the bad boy. They end up living together with not much income and he beats the shit out of her on a regular basis. Then she's afraid to leave him.

Go figure.

Having dough never seems to hurt your chances either.

I always take the jeep wrangler (98) on the first few dates to throw them off and if she's cool with that, then maybe I'll tell them of my business. Never bring up money on the first few dates if you have it and are looking for true love.

I've found that too many women will put a lot aside for money.

"Go figure."

Watch at your high school reunions.

As time goes by it becomes ever more apparent that folks get just about what they deserve out of life.

I've found that too many women will put a lot aside for money.

That is the absolute truth. You ought to see the women that the young roughnecks and roustabouts on the rig have. Even though most are ugly as fuck and dumb as a box of rocks, these guys have trophy women. These guys are fresh out of HS with no marketable skills, but they all have a relative who can get them an offshore job that pays 3x what they would get onshore. The first thing they do is buy a $30,000 truck and within milliseconds they'll have a trophy woman at their side.

Inevitably they get married and the woman makes sure she has 3 kids in 2 years then gets a divorce before either are 24 YO. I've seen it a million times.

Watch at your high school reunions.

As time goes by it becomes ever more apparent that folks get just about what they deserve out of life.

There is a lot of truth in that based on what I have seen at my reunion. Eventually you reap what you sow.

I doubt any of you read past the first page of this article, let alone have read all of it. I did so I happened to see the 166 blog comments written at the end -- including a number of them written by women about "nice guys."

I've read with interest how many guys on that blog (and even on this thread) feel if they're nice and/or decent guys most women want to treat them like crap. Some of you must have had some bad experiences. I think some of you confuse "wimp" (which women don't like) as being the same as a "decent" guy (which most women do appreciate).

You all might like to read some of the 166 blog comments at the end of this article so I linked it below starting with the first blog entry:

Hey I'd rather be a "pussy" and keep My soul than to be a Macho dude and lose it.

I hope you were trying to be funny, Larry,

I would rather be a man with my self respect, than a pussy who's self respect can be taken away..

Goatman, WestPac widows same senario.
Saw it happen too many times, officers included.

does anybody honestly think Larry has any self respect?? how could he?

Being a roustabout sucks btw. Worked as one right after HS and felt like I got my ass kicked. Only thing I liked was 7 on 7 off schedule.

Goatman, WestPac widows same senario.
Saw it happen too many times, officers included.

Yep, saw that many times too -- even more pronounced when in Mayport and the Forrestal and its battle group left. Literally that night the bars would suddenly triple the amount of 'single' women. Most had tan shadows on their ring finger where a wedding band was the day before.

Offshore, messiah?

Cali,

I think you are not looking at the whole picture. Women say things all the time in one respect but in reality never ever practice what they say their looking for.

I see the nice guy all the time being overlooked by women. They take the new dating scene like a project which they can force change, and guess what? It doesn't happen. Once a jerk always a jerk but the women always take the jerk first go around.

Women for some reason don't like nice action up front which reflects true intentions, they want caveman tough guy actions up front and then are shocked when those actions continue through the relationship.

Kind of funny, when talking about divorce in this country almost everyone moves to blame of the man and never takes the reflection that 50% of the problem is also the women............it all boils down to expectations.

How about a full power of attorney before you
leave so I can take care of our business was
a usual deadly con.

A number of studies have shown that young men are not fully mentally developed until age 25 and that includes emotionally. I don't think it's a good idea for guys to marry anytime before age 26 at the earliest and then they ought to wait a couple years after that before having any kids.

Guys in their late teens and early 20's often confuse lust with love. Marrying too early and too immature, not to mention having kids much too young, can often ruin a young guy's life should he find out he chose the wrong woman.

I think young military guys are even more vulnerable to getting into quickie, bad marriages since a lot of these young guys are away from home for the first time and often lonely and homesick. Of course it's not the case with every young guy who marries under age 25, but when you think of your own tastes in the opposite sex when you were 22 and look at your tastes at, say, age 35 -- you may not have picked the person you'll be wanting to spend the rest of your life with let alone have kids.

Goat no it was in Texas.

That is the absolute truth. You ought to see the women that the young roughnecks and roustabouts on the rig have. Even though most are ugly as fuck and dumb as a box of rocks, these guys have trophy women. These guys are fresh out of HS with no marketable skills, but they all have a relative who can get them an offshore job that pays 3x what they would get onshore. The first thing they do is buy a $30,000 truck and within milliseconds they'll have a trophy woman at their side.

Inevitably they get married and the woman makes sure she has 3 kids in 2 years then gets a divorce before either are 24 YO. I've seen it a million times.

Posted by goatman at 2008-06-24 11:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

OMG. I thought it was just my own bias...but I have seen that exact scenario(minus the oil rig) dozens of times.

OMG. I thought it was just my own bias...but I have seen that exact scenario(minus the oil rig) dozens of times.

Professional athletes are a great example. Tell me, would Randy Johnson have that gorgeous wife if he wasn't a star pitcher?

The first thing they do is buy a $30,000 truck and within milliseconds they'll have a trophy woman at their side. Inevitably they get married and the woman makes sure she has 3 kids in 2 years then gets a divorce before either are 24 YO

Young or not, if these guys refused to look no further than skin deep when they chose someone to marry, they shouldn't feel sorry for themselves when their "trophy wife" package turns out to be nothing more than fancy giftwrapping with nothing more to offer underneath. What happened to also looking for shared values, good morals, kindness, caring, and other important traits in a person before you decide to marry them. Or maybe I'm just being too naive, simplistic, and unrealistic.

Or maybe I'm just being too naive, simplistic, and unrealistic.

No, you are absolutely right in your observation, but you don't fully understand the reason for these young guys failure to look beyond skin deep.

A 19 YO just out of HS and a perpetual hard-on loves anyone who he can stick his dick into. He also believes that woman loves him back.

I feel these women, who live amongst oil field trash (including their own family) have a little more sense, but are also conniving and take advantage of these young horny guys.

It almost happened to me when I was 18, but my dad after 3 months of pleading and an 11 page letter when I was in boot camp convinced me not to marry my "true love".

Thankfully I didn't. It would've been a horrible mistake.

the glaring flaw in this study is that it assumes that men who attract more women equals success. I'm not sure most people would agree with that definition of success. Most people (I'm guessing) would be happy just finding 1 person they're compatible with, even if that takes a little extra time.

It almost happened to me when I was 18, but my dad after 3 months of pleading and an 11 page letter when I was in boot camp convinced me not to marry my "true love".

Thankfully I didn't. It would've been a horrible mistake.

-- Goatman

Could be she was honestly in love with you too. I doubt she had been after your "money" or trying to use you for much because what would you have to offer her at only 18. Your Dad probably just felt you were much too young to get married -- and he was right. Besides, if you'd gotten married right out of boot camp and then had kids right away it's likely you would never have bothered to take advantage of the training courses you took in the Navy that helped your career later on -- electronics (and/or sonar?). Ever wonder over the years what happened to her? Most likely you don't even remember her first name anymore. So much for "true love" at age 18. (grin)

Actually it is a game of numbers and that's why the "bad boys" do better. They aren't afraid to hit on women.

Goatman, The girls in Fort MacMurray (The Tarsands) have it made. In the 20-45 y.o. range they are outnumbered 5-2.Girls up there are nicknamed Ring Collectors.A lot of guys work 24-4 in camp so these girls can date a couple of guys easy at the same time with out getting caught.It is common for them to get engaged 2-3 times in a year and then dump the guy and cash in the rings.

Bitches are not ready for poindexter until all the juice has been sucked out of them.

But poindexters are getting smarter everyday.

Women like a man who knows who he is and what he's about. No pussys allowed. That being said you can still be a man and not be a total cock.

101 FF

Posted by Chill

you mean like John Wayne..That is who I idolized as a kid and try to emulate. Works for me.

I have a good friend (a very pretty petite lady) and she was married to a Nasa engineer. Now this guys was as safe, stable and and sane as anyone you could ever find. Plus he made tons of money. If I had to guess I would say he was a lousy fuck.

Anyway, one day a flashy punk rolled into town and set his eye on her and 'poof' she was gone.

That wasn't about money. It was about getting her 40 yr old plumbing a work out, but something more important.

She saw him as a project, something she could work on and fix. He dumped her as soon as he had his fill. And now she's alone.

And now she's alone.

Another heart warming story of love and lust.

....I'm glad none of this shit concerns me........

Women like a man who's honest. When I tell my friends that I'd never date a 'nice guy' - what I mean is that I'd never date the kind of guy who feigns kindness and sympathy towards a girl purely as a strategy for getting her into his bed.

There's a lot, a *lot*, to be said against dating 'bad boys'. There really is. But their one undeniable virtue is that with these guys, at least you know what you're getting into.

Woman should cum first. Rob doesn't understand THAT, either

Posted by Alexandrite

Ladies and gentlemen, here we have a "nice guy."

Rob's just bitter that he's been too tired to put in that kind of effort lately. lol.

"...with these guys, at least you know what you're getting into."

But the real problem is what's getting into YOU. herm

Rob's just bitter that he's been too tired to put in that kind of effort lately. lol.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine

LOL... shitty effort or phenominal one, I finish every time... if she wants to dick around and try to make every time like the honeymoon that ain't my problem.

if she wants to dick around and try to make every time like the honeymoon that ain't my problem.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

hysterical.

"you mean like John Wayne..That is who I idolized as a kid and try to emulate. Works for me.

Posted by Legio at 2008-06-25 08:45 AM"

John Wayne (Marion Michael Morrison) was queer as a three dollar bill. (Sorry.)

So that's why he walked so funny...

I'm really trying not to buy into this theory that nice guys finish last.

If it's true, then Dubya, Cheney, and Rove are sex gods, and that messes with my world view more than I can tell you.

John Wayne (Marion Michael Morrison) was queer as a three dollar bill. (Sorry.)

That is not true.

John Wayne (Marion Michael Morrison) was queer as a three dollar bill. (Sorry.)

That is not true.

You're right 2112. He was every bit the macho het that Rock Hudson and James Dean were.

So that's why he walked so funny...

Posted by 101Chairborne

Da haahh, da haahh
Da ha-hahh ha-hahh haahh

takes more effort to get the nice girls. Just stop being lazy and keep at it. Without being creepy of course.

Nice guys may tend to finish last, but it doesn't follow that being an asshole is any guarantee of finishing first, either. In the best relationships I've seen, there's a connection that transcends this black-white analysis.

Besides, sheer numbers of sex partners is not a good measure of a sex life. One-night stands and nearly anonymous sex can fulfill a fetishistic need for a particular type of experience, but a well paired couple will usually do better in the long run.