Don't tell JeffJ this or He'll make excuses for them like usual.

Larry Mohr

Free speech for the dumb

It sounds wonderful but in reality means nothing. Now if Congress were to do this??? It goes without saying that the faux Democrat Pelosi will with here crony's block the shit out of any and all actions.

Bush should be put away for criminal negligence. Sending troops into Iraq without formulating a complete plan first guaranteed that more soldiers died than was necessary. And he had to know before the war that not having real plan would cost lives and he just didn't care. He mind as well shot some GIs himself as there really is no difference between that and what he did.

I really don't see how anyone, no matter what side of the political spectrum they are on, can support this guy.

***** Law School Pursues War Crimes Against Bush ****

..........about time ............

......maybe the next AG can get on board too.......

And RCADE is working to avoid double posts... Which do you think will be more effective?

What a bunch of loosers. Move on. Do something of value to society.

Forget the system, just take the little bitch out back.

oh yeah? Well, let's see them try and fly somewhere!

Forget the system, just take the little bitch out back.

Posted by panchovilla at 2008-06-23 01:50 PM | Reply

I knew I liked you for a reason. Replace "little bitch" with "muslim" and we agree!

Canadiens made some bold moves at draft time.

Pelosi and her ilk are so afraid that we are going to get in a cycle of prosecuting every elected official.

I mean how is an elected official supposed to make millions if their hands are tied to facts and ethics and performance.

"Bush should be put away for criminal negligence. Sending troops into Iraq without formulating a complete plan first guaranteed that more soldiers died than was necessary. And he had to know before the war that not having real plan would cost lives and he just didn't care. He mind as well shot some GIs himself as there really is no difference between that and what he did."

Posted by Sully

Substitute FDR here for Bush and you can say the same thing. How about landing our guys on a beach and their heavy equipment some place else. Thousands died in a day due to criminal negligence.

How about bad intel costing lives, try Iwo Jima.

Where did all those Japanese come from?

You can give examples from the Civil War where bad planning cost 10's of thousands of lives.

Should Abe Lincoln have been prosecuted for war crimes?

Please continue with your left wing circle jerk!

Bush? ...who?

"Should Abe Lincoln have been prosecuted for war crimes?"

Gee, I don't know...

Did Lincoln or FDR lie to the American public about why we were going to war with a nation that did not attack us?

And then fail to get the guy that did?

It's not Congress that going to go after him for war crimes, its going to be other nations for violations of Geneva.

"How about landing our guys on a beach and their heavy equipment some place else. Thousands died in a day due to criminal negligence."

I suppose you would give the responsible party the Medal of Freedom but yes, if it could be proven that the mistake was made due to negligence, then of course the responsible party should be held accountable. If your job affects the safety of thousands of men and you refuse to do it properly, you deserve to be punished. Refusing to do such a job properly equates with murder.

"How about bad intel costing lives, try Iwo Jima."

See above. Same answer. Was it a legitimate mistake or did someone just refuse to do his job the way Bush did?

"You can give examples from the Civil War where bad planning cost 10's of thousands of lives."

Same thing. If someone couldn't be bothered to do his job and basically just threw away tens of thousands of lives, he should have been shot for it.

"Should Abe Lincoln have been prosecuted for war crimes?"

I'm not talking about "war crimes" (I am not even sure such a thing exists). I am talking about criminal negligence. I am talking about a politician throwing away the lives of our soldiers because doing right by them would have been too much work.

"Please continue with your left wing circle jerk!"

I take it by this comment that you consider yourself a "right winger" and therefore consider yourself more patriotic than "left wingers". Yet, I notice you didn't challenge the notion that Bush didn't plan out the war properly because he couldn't bothered. Instead, you just made excuses by trying to point of instances where someone else may have gotten away with criminally negligent behavior that killed out soldiers. So you really don't give a shit about lazy motherfuckers getting our soldiers killed, do you? You just care about covering the ass of the guy who represents your party. You are a piece of crap.

I knew I liked you for a reason. Replace "little bitch" with "muslim" and we agree!

Canadiens made some bold moves at draft time.

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-06-23 01:55 PM | Reply |

Ditto. Replace "muslim" with "ugly american", and we agree! Though the DR will suffer by losing a few key archtypes.

With Sundin, bold, without, 4 quarters for a buck.

*** Move on. Do something of value to society.
Posted by sawdust ****

......what could be more valuable than bringing a mass murderer to justice ??......

May seem dramatic, and I wouldn't be surprised if the drama is fueled by partisan feelings, but I agree with the general concept. Politicians should not be exempt from the rule of law!

**** Politicians should not be exempt from the rule of law!
Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE *****

.........exactly.........

Waste of time energy and money--oh wait! It's a leftist professor leading the blind.

There was 15 months to the run up of the war with Iraq.

Guess they will skip that time period.

Some here seem to forget that time period as well.

When America invaded Germany without having been provoked it was in fact a war crime and so was bombing Dresden by the way. FDR certainly had a great battle plan in the Coral Sea. He should have been shot and let's give me three cheers for giving away Eastern Europe to the Russians. He should have resigned before Yalta

If there is one issue which can by itself lose the election(s) for the Democrats, I think this is it. I'd say that by this time, most Americans understand how badly the administration screwed up this war. But most Americans also supported the war during most of these past 5 years. And they would see this as a judgement on themselves. Guess how they would react to that.

Ha Ha Ha... Mass. School of Law is like the "Community College" of law schools. If you graduate from there you usually end up working in one of those walk-in law clinics in some strip-mall storefront.

$25 wills. All you can eat.

"When America invaded Germany without having been provoked it was in fact a war crime and so was bombing Dresden by the way."

Great way to lose your case before you've even started. Every mainstream historian will tell you those statements are crap.

I take it by this comment that you consider yourself a "right winger" and therefore consider yourself more patriotic than "left wingers".

Posted by Sully

No, just a little more in touch with reality.

"No, just a little more in touch with reality."

So you think acting as an apologist for a man who would send people to war without bothering to have a plan first makes you a "realist"?

A realist calls a spade a spade. Bush's laziness has cost lives. Your refusual to recognize what is right in front of your face makes you and imbecile, not a realist.

I'm the fucking realist, shitbag.

For all you airheaded liberals, there are no substance to the charges for war crimes. Time to cut off funding to liberal institutions that insist on using my tax dollars for fraudulent purposes. Time to remove this dean from the law school obviously he does not have the mental capacity to run the institution. Before they can even charge the president, which they have no authority to, then you have to take out Bill and Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Charlie Rangel and all the other Democrats who saw the intelligence left behind after Billary destroyed our intelligence community and military communities. See, your own people created this debacle by allowing Billary to go unchallenged in what they did in the White House. Try reading "Unlimited Access" and find out the truth about your heroes and then come back and discuss the subject. Otherwise you look as stupid as if you were discussing nuclear physics, because you have no clue.

"I'm the fucking realist, shitbag."

Posted by Sully

If you remove realist and the comma you will be closer to the truth.

You sound like you are getting upset. Maybe you need to up your medication.

Please come up with another fake issue.

......what Bush did was a crime.......

.....the attack on Iraq was the same as Germany's attack on Poland......

......we prosecuted the Germans.......

......we, the people, will prosecute the regime of George Bush......

.....the prosecution is a national movement.....its just starting........

".....the prosecution is a national movement.....its just starting........"

Posted by skizziks

You're still mad about your hero Bill being impeached aren't you?

"Please come up with another fake issue."

I don't know how stupid and/or naive you'd have to be not to know this, but the lack of prewar planning is well documented. And you know you can't refute the assertion so you haven't tried other than with generally dismissive comments.

I love how you consider yourself a realist when you are in fact as naive and Polly Anna-ish as any Jimmy Carter loving liberal there is. "My Bushie wouldn't send guys into war without bothering to plan first, he's a good guy...." LOL. Take off the rose colored glasses and maybe read up on the subject a little bit, Susie.

.....the prosecution is a national movement.....its just starting........

Yes. Nancy Pelosi is all over it. Your befuddled optimism is, however, kind of endearing. I mean, in a "my-uncle-who-got-hit-on-the- head-with-a-shovel-when-he- was-younger-and-hasn't-been- quite-right-ever-since" kind of way.

"You sound like you are getting upset."

Its only because we are way passed the point where this country can handle the consequences of having people as stupid as you voting.

Please tell me about all those great Pre-war plans that FDR had. He provoked the Japanese with the oil embargo and then he left the majority of the Pacific sleep sitting ducks in the middle of the harbor. Some planning.

The exit strategy was a great one. Let's just give everything to those Russian guys.

"Please tell me about all those great Pre-war plans that FDR had. He provoked the Japanese with the oil embargo and then he left the majority of the Pacific sleep sitting ducks in the middle of the harbor. Some planning.

The exit strategy was a great one. Let's just give everything to those Russian guys."

If FDR set up the guys at Pearl Harbor by provoking the Japanese and them using them as bait, then he should have been shot for that. I have no idea why you keep bringing up examples of other presidents doing something wrong as a defense of Bush.

If I killed someone then my lawyer uses examples of other people getting away with murder as a defense, do you think I should get off?

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE DEMS...impeach Bush...or at least charge him with any crime once he leave office

BUT ONCE BUSH LEAVES OFFICE...THE DEMS WILL NOT DO NOTHING....NOT A THING...WHY??? BECAUSE ITS ALL SMOKE AND MIRRORS

YOU WILL SEE....IMPEACHMENT...WAR CRIMES...ANY CRIME...WILL FADE IN THE DISTANCE...WHEN BUSH LEAVES OFFICE

The plain truth is that the Liberal Left is still angry that Gore lost. They can't "Move On," so to speak. They're angry that Bill Clinton was impeached. Personally, I believe now, in retrospect, that perhaps impeaching Clinton was a bit much. However, all this rhetoric is simply payback for things that happened a very long time ago and they still haven't gotten over it. The Liberal Left are sore losers. Sadly, if there was a Democratic President, the war would suddenly be a JUST war.

But, let the babies talk about impeaching President Bush. Let them whine some more about Selected not Elected. Keeps them all busy and keeps them from trying to damage the country even more than they already have.

They're children and have to be treated like children, while the Adults are tasked with making the decisions that are tough and necessary to keep the world safe and freedom alive so that the whiners can keep whining.

Remember: Hippies Never Solve Anything.

land of the free, home of the brave.

free to be stupid too.

lawrence velvel is free to pound sand and lose some weight from the exercise.

HUMAN...you for got IRAQ...is payback for Veitnam

>HUMAN...you for got IRAQ...
>is payback for Veitnam

I'm not sure I understand. Sorry. Can you elaborate?

"Pelosi and her ilk are so afraid that we are going to get in a cycle of prosecuting every elected official."

Well, that would beat the shit out of what's going on now....

HUMAN...yes Iraq is payback for the republican interfeance in the vietnam war.... veitnam could have been won...if the republicans did not politcally grandstand that the war was lost

republican politicas lost our wars in veitnam....just like democrat politics will lose our war in Iraq

"yes Iraq is payback for the republican interfeance in the vietnam war.... veitnam could have been won...if the republicans did not politcally grandstand that the war was lost ... republican politicas lost our wars in veitnam....just like democrat politics will lose our war in Iraq"

Dude. I'm not sure where to begin. I think I'll leave it alone.

You know, the more I think about this, the more I think it could work.

Every first-year law student knows more about the law than anyone working for the Bush administration.

AMEN ON THAT MaryTylerWhore

Larry

You got it backwards JUDAS. The yellow backed libs in congress screwed up the vietnam war. The war was won, but left wing ASSHOLES in congress got cold feet. Lets not forget your heros JFK and Johnson got us into the Vietnam war.

Forget the system, just take the little bitch out back.
Posted by panchovilla at 2008-06-23 01:50 PM

I completely agree, George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and all those neocons should be "taken out". Then ship 'em to their step-fatherland, Israel.

The plain truth is that the Liberal Left is still angry that Gore lost. They can't "Move On," so to speak. They're angry that Bill Clinton was impeached. Personally, I believe now, in retrospect, that perhaps impeaching Clinton was a bit much. However, all this rhetoric is simply payback for things that happened a very long time ago and they still haven't gotten over it. The Liberal Left are sore losers. Sadly, if there was a Democratic President, the war would suddenly be a JUST war.
But, let the babies talk about impeaching President Bush. Let them whine some more about Selected not Elected. Keeps them all busy and keeps them from trying to damage the country even more than they already have.
They're children and have to be treated like children, while the Adults are tasked with making the decisions that are tough and necessary to keep the world safe and freedom alive so that the whiners can keep whining.
Remember: Hippies Never Solve Anything.
Posted by humanear at 2008-06-23 05:13 PM

Wow, you have not been paying attention to anything but your x-box. Uh, we're in unjustifiable wars, our civil liberties are partially revoked, the economy is tanked, jobs are offshore, housing is tanking, gas costs are easily going over $10/gallon and the multiple instances of George W. Bush slurring out "nukulurr" - you are an open-sore punching bag.

And how about that "keep the world safe and freedom alive" part? Perhaps you missed it but at minimum 90% of the GITMO prisoners are completely innocent civilians, mainly goat herders and subsistence farmers. I'm afraid that "freedom" has been urinated upon the moment that the Geneva conventions were labeled "quaint" and "obsolete" in the Gonzales memo, and torture techniques taken from Nazi Germany were instituted. Google the vernacular "enhanced interrogation", "homeland security", etc.

I'll slap you around a little more - uh, "hippies", as in slang from Viet Nam era labeling the anti-war movement? In case you "failed" high school the facts are that again, around 90% of all high school students have tried pot by their senior year. Guess where a vast majority get it from? Oh, I'll tell you - their own families. The war on drugs has not revealed this to you? Perhaps you are not even an American? Why are all seemingly students going "hippie"? Perhaps it's never been much different generation to generation? Perhaps the majority of people enjoy their vices, regardless how they pray and who's political ass they pucker up to? Perhaps that's also because marijuana, unlike alcohol, cocaine and most prescription medications is that it's 100% harmless, has no deaths associated with it's use and is in direct competition with Big Pharma?

You probably listen to Rush Limbaugh. Are you doing your part for "Operation Chaos"? The Rush drinking game - 1 shot for every "liberal", 2 shots for every "Democrats", a kick in the nuts if he apologizes for anything.

You should consider getting that trepan hole covered. Maybe a pleasant rainbow yamika or a non-rainbow wig?

The Bush defenders here probably don't realize how close to the cliff's edge they are. Demos who try above all to seem "moderate" surely are selling their birthrights for a few pieces of silver, but the real issue is what future historians and lawyers will say about the failure to prosecute arch-criminal Bush and his gang. herm

The World Court in the Haque, should take a look at this University's findings an follow it up. I believe that War Crimes were committed by this Administration, but only a proper investigation an a complete hearing will find if there were indeed crimes committed here. We as Americans will never ever again claim any moral highground, if this Administration can flaunt the Law for the World to see......

>>Wow, you have not been paying
>>attention to anything but your
>>x-box.

I don't have an x-box.

Wow, according to your rant, everything is really going downhill. Typical Liberal Pessimist response to everything. I'm sure when Barry is president all that is broken will just magically heal. Of course, the Media will make sure that it heals, regardless.

I think that you should really get your numbers straight. 90%? According to who? Oberman or John Stewart? Or maybe Bill Maher, all of whom I'm sure you get your coolaid from. Let's grow up a bit, Hippie Self-righteous scum.

You go smoke your dope and let the grownups take care of the problems. That's what your type do. They sit around with their bag of Cheetos and bitch about how the whole world is falling apart and leave someone else to clean up the mess. Again, Hippies like you are worthless bottom feeders that think the the world will just take care of itself. Doesn't work that way.

But it's not your problem. You sure are making a difference in this world by whining about it.

Now go get your bong out and stop bitching you worthless pile of swill.

BTW- I didn't get vary good grades in high school. You're right about that. Didn't care much for it. College? 3.45 GPA.

Now where's that x-box...

"That's what your type do. They sit around with their bag of Cheetos and bitch about how the whole world is falling apart and leave someone else to clean up the mess.

Posted by humanear at 2008-06-23 07:08 PM"

While your type goes halfway around the world to start a disastrous war against the wrong country. (Well, only "disastrous" if you are not Halliburton, GE, Blackwater, etc.)

Clean up the mess, my ass.

>While your type goes halfway
>around the world to start a
>disastrous war against the
>wrong country.

Oh, you mean like Kenny and Johnson the Liberal Leftist heroes did? Or does that not count now. It only counts when a Repblican does it.

Or when Clinton bombed an asprin factory in Sudan?

Oh, but I'm sure you can justify those examples somehow because they were started by the other side.

Clean up the mess in your ass? Huh? We'll leave that to your sister and her tounge.

Well, since I don't have a sister with a tounge, I guess you'll just have to do your regular chore, starfish boy.

OZ...to be fair Nixons election was based on getting out of veitnam.....so republican did undermine the democrat effort in vietnam

obama election is based on undermining republicans effort in iraq

yea your right about the yellow dems undermining their own parties effort....but the dems made thier own bed

WOW! REDLIGHTROBOT,sounds like things are really bad...............since the democrates took over congress.

Judas: Nixson did get us out of Vietnam! unfortunately if we would have stayed like Japan, Germany and Korea millions of people would not have died.

ozzieoswald at 2008-06-23 07:27 PM

Even more than we killed to make a desert of humanity and call it "peace"?

Puhlease.

>>Wow, you have not been paying
>>attention to anything but your
>>x-box.

I don't have an x-box.
Wow, according to your rant, everything is really going downhill. Typical Liberal Pessimist response to everything. I'm sure when Barry is president all that is broken will just magically heal. Of course, the Media will make sure that it heals, regardless.
I think that you should really get your numbers straight. 90%? According to who? Oberman or John Stewart? Or maybe Bill Maher, all of whom I'm sure you get your coolaid from. Let's grow up a bit, Hippie Self-righteous scum.
You go smoke your dope and let the grownups take care of the problems. That's what your type do. They sit around with their bag of Cheetos and bitch about how the whole world is falling apart and leave someone else to clean up the mess. Again, Hippies like you are worthless bottom feeders that think the the world will just take care of itself. Doesn't work that way.
But it's not your problem. You sure are making a difference in this world by whining about it.
Now go get your bong out and stop bitching you worthless pile of swill.
BTW- I didn't get vary good grades in high school. You're right about that. Didn't care much for it. College? 3.45 GPA.
Now where's that x-box...
Posted by humanear at 2008-06-23 07:08 PM

I usually don't argue about "intelligence" or scholastic achievement, etc. What my "high school" (I have a GED, dude) remark was pertaining to is that drugs are prevalent and pot is commonplace. Not to say that all students are using, but that Christians, Righties, conservatives and whatever else they like to be labeled - they are smoking dope and sippin' they drank just as mightily as anyone else. So, in short - the war on drugs has been as effective as the war on sex. It's just really surprising to see "hippie" slung about so casually - I kinda feel like watching The Ice Storm and then Last Days of Disco (two personal favorites). So, you can call people you disagree with "hippies", but it's absolutely inaccurately used. Oh, and I typically keep a bong out so it's easier to located through all of the surrounding thick, pungent smoke.

As for "self-righteous", perhaps too true, however, it's not undesirable to point out the hypocritical calamity that comes associated with Republicans is best fought with a sharpened stick to puncture theirs first.

Okay, so you've made some words fit together but nothing addresses anything in my post. The economy, jobs, housing, gas, etc. Elaboration is a key to good story-telling.

GW will never stand trial for what he allowed to happen, he will never
be considered, in our history books at least, a criminal. But what exactly should one country attacking another that did no harm to them be called? Seems like a crime to me. And if a Clinton deflection is the best response -- fuck Clinton and the deflection. It's a leaky bucket. If anyone truly believes that DC and GW truly believed that Iraq was a real threat and weren't using 9/11 as an excuse, please ask God for a mulligan on your brains. And your hearts.
The terrorists are winning, folks. GW has kow-towed to his arab butt buddies and they have no interest in helping the failed oil man, failed human being, who calls himself President. If Repubs love America, why aren't they up in arms over this mo-fo's connections to Arab oil and the policies it generates and their interests in keeping fanaticism breathing? Why aren't they up in arms over the failures? Love of party over country is the only answer I can come up with. Bastards.

GW will never stand trial for what he allowed to happen, he will never
be considered, in our history books at least, a criminal. But what exactly should one country attacking another that did no harm to them be called? Seems like a crime to me. And if a Clinton deflection is the best response -- fuck Clinton and the deflection. It's a leaky bucket. If anyone truly believes that DC and GW truly believed that Iraq was a real threat and weren't using 9/11 as an excuse, please ask God for a mulligan on your brains. And your hearts.
The terrorists are winning, folks. GW has kow-towed to his arab butt buddies and they have no interest in helping the failed oil man, failed human being, who calls himself President. If Repubs love America, why aren't they up in arms over this mo-fo's connections to Arab oil and the policies it generates and their interests in keeping fanaticism breathing? Why aren't they up in arms over the failures? Love of party over country is the only answer I can come up with. Bastards.
Posted by kingzilla at 2008-06-23 07:43 PM

Hear-hear! Your mulligan remark was perfect. Obama could attempt to out-spend the Republicans, but that also detracts from the growing issues of poverty and homelessness that money could be spent towards. I dunno what constitutes a "campaign", but purchasing votes through soup-kitchens, shelters and clinics seems like a humanitarian vehicle for it.

Whoops, wrong thread.. :]

"Why aren't they up in arms over the failures? Love of party over country is the only answer I can come up with. Bastards."

There is a segment of Republicans who consider themselves quite savvy, who earn high incomes, who love the Bush tax cuts. Those people are fully cognizant of many of the crimes of the Bush family, the disaster that is the Bush WAr in Iraq, etc. but they are saving sizable sums due to the tax cuts. That is their morality, most actually find a political belief system to justify it. Hey, they are sorry that your children will get the bill for the Iraq war which they supported but...better your kids than themselves.

****** ".....the prosecution is a national movement.....its just starting........"

Posted by skizziks

You're still mad about your hero Bill being impeached aren't you?

Posted by FreddyK *******

.......a Clinton deflection ??........please......

......why did Bush bother being president when everything during his term was Clinton's fault.??.......

......no......the prosecution for war crimes will mean Bush taking responsibility for his crimes.....

"OZZIEOSWALD"...God , where do we start with fucking Assholes like you???

RICHARD NIXON, didn't stop the Viet Nam War, those kids that had there heads beaten stop that fucking War....Viet Nam Protesters thats who stopped that
Fucking War....

After the War, in the 1950's there was to be an election in Viet Nam to unify the Country, well Ho Chi Min won that election an the American CIA as it was to do later in Chile, an Iran didn't allow the election to stand an that is when the War in Viet Nam started, Eisenhower was President at the time an Kennedy an Johnson allowed the Policy to stand. Amertican Policy was responsible for that fucking War, Not Kennedy an Johnson!!!! Learn you History dickhead!!!!!!

the War in Viet Nam started, Eisenhower was President at the time an Kennedy an Johnson allowed the Policy to stand. Amertican Policy was responsible for that fucking War, Not Kennedy an Johnson!!!! Learn you History dickhead!!!!!!

the build up started in 1950...under Truman(d)...so the policy was started under a democrat

LEARN YOUR HISTORY

OUCH.
Freddyk PWNED by mulitple submissions of DR'ers.

Truly a mind bender on this. On one hand you have a president being subjucated for the word is (his own fault). On the other, you have a president who knowingly infringes on amendments of the very piece of paper he is sworn to uphold.

Funny where the articles of impeachment lies?

George Bush Dick Cheney et al are War Criminals.

While this trial is for show and non binding it still has worth.

Good on Mass School of Law!

Andover?

Hey, if yer name was John Underwood and you lived in Andover, Mass could you just sign all yer letters...

Wood
John
Mass

Be Well.

JUDUS: "LEARN YOUR HISTORY" You are just plain stupid! Get your history book. Eisenhower had 150 advisors in Vietnam as we did in many places after the japs surendered. This isn't starting a war. The problem with you ASSHOLE LIBS is you don't know your history.

JUDUS: PS Your hero JFK then sent 18,000 troops to Vietnam. Who started the Vietnam war? Wake up!

........the Democrat-led buildup during the Viet Nam war was just as misguided as our actions during the Iraq war.........

......LBJ faked the "Gulf of Tonkin Incident" in order to drag the US into a civil war where we had no business.......YES......I agree he should have been prosecuted for that, just as I propose that Bush be prosecuted for using 9-11 as the "Big Lie" that Iraq was somehow involved in attacking us........

Both wars were equally wrong.....in fact the Viet Nam war resulted in greater casualties.......but the damage to our own country in each instance is beyond calculation.......

Well, I have a new hero! I LUV Dean Velvel! Dean Vevel, you rock!

Legal motives? Rather convenient date for this little socialist PR stunt. This quote tells us that this is purely political.

"The man ultimately responsible for the torture had a unique preparation and persona for the presidency," wrote Velvel. "He is a former drunk, was a serial failure in business who had to repeatedly be bailed out by daddy's friends and wanna-be-friends, was unable to speak articulately despite the finest education(s) that money and influence can buy, has a dislike of reading, so that 100-page memos have to be boiled down to one page for him, is heedless of facts and evidence, and appears not even to know the meaning of truth."

What a waste of air this fellow is.

Now you socialists can chime in and remove all doubt, that this is political.

**** "The man ultimately responsible for the torture had a unique preparation and persona for the presidency," wrote Velvel. "He is a former drunk, was a serial failure in business who had to repeatedly be bailed out by daddy's friends and wanna-be-friends, was unable to speak articulately despite the finest education(s) that money and influence can buy, has a dislike of reading, so that 100-page memos have to be boiled down to one page for him, is heedless of facts and evidence, and appears not even to know the meaning of truth."
br />
What a waste of air this fellow is.

Posted by westerner *****

........do you mean the fellow being described ?......

...or.......the fellow doing the describing???

.....because you have not disputed the description's accuracy, and we concur, that there is nothing to dispute.......

"While this trial is for show and non binding it still has worth."

Spuddie:

Wrongo. Velvel is not mounting a little-theatre production of The Caine Mutiny here. His intention is to put Dubya's actual ass behind actual bars by means of actual trials in actual courts.

Actually.